FINNISH PM PARTYING - Why It's a Big Deal for Finns
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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 22. 08. 2022
- Here is my take on what happened with Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin's party video leak.
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People have to understand that there are some protocols inherent in a public person. It's not a question of her being a woman or a man. If it were a man, it would be equally inappropriate for the position she holds. She has the option of resigning from her post and living her youth as a free woman, but the moment she commits to the country to assume the position of prime minister, she is subject to having to comply with certain protocols out of respect for the nation. It's a decision, you cannot have everything. And this reason is precisely what keeps many people away from public careers. Just my humble opinion from outside. Cheers!
Those videsos shound never leak, She was doing this outside of work hours. Press here is bad bag, and person who posted on social media wasn't thinking.
@@Milos_Pradavni you don't get it.
@@Milos_Pradavni no, she wasn't. There's no "working hours" for a prime minister, like Alexi said in the video
Bill Clinton lmao
@@Milos_Pradavni You don't stop being a prime minister on night, wtf
As an American I don't feel I can say too much about another country's leadership, given the clowns we have in Washington. But at the very least when you reach the highest office in your country you put any questionable activities on hold and hold to the highest level of class you can. Resume doing whatever when you are out of office and not responsible for the lives of every single person in the country.
This video also doesn't mention that she was at a party during COVID restrictions some while ago, violating Finnish laws put in place. A lot of these videos about her seem to try to minimize all the stuff she has done.
Well said!
yep, she is a PM not a tiktoker
Lol questionable activities - going to a party? She didn't do anything wrong, she's allowed to have fun
@@lara-tm3ek prostitute is also not wrong in Finland, can a Finnish PM has sex with hookers ?
You can also hear âMĂ€ tein ne linkutââ âI made the lines for snortingâ behind the party video. Linkutâ is a common slang word for snorting drugs.
I lived in Finland and I can definitely say, that she is the weakest prime minister of Finland.
Still stronger than you anyway
@@91827364ize Said dummy
@@91827364ize what a silly comment.
@@91827364ize How Do You measure - being strong ? Which Way strong - lifting weights or some other way ?
@@91827364ize damn as expected from Indian đđ€Š
As a non-Finn, I may not have enough knowledge to comment about the politics of another country, but the way I see it, Sanna Marin should have been more careful in presenting herself in public or private, especially considering that this isn't the first time she has landed in hot water, and also that she is the most powerful person in the country. She definitely deserves her own free time and she is free to do whatever she wants, but as a prime minister, she needs to be aware that there will be eyes and ears everywhere and the whole country will be looking and judging. Getting herself caught in questionable situations like this recent one again will not only erode public confidence in her, but will also provide ammunition to her political opponents and critics.
It always makes me laugh when I see people taking any western figurehead seriously. This one is another WEF puppet, enjoy!
Thank you!
All times he was in hot water are so ridiculous.
Before she became a prime minister and even before she entered national politics from local politics, my view of her was positive. These sort of things have turned me to a critic of hers and I actually do now fear what she is doing to Finnish politics by pulling out things from american politicians playbooks and other things. If she would have hold any other position in politics, I would not have been happy about this but she is THE MOST POWERFUL person in the nation at the moment.
In short I just want Finnish politics to stay boring.
She should not learn from Boris Johnson. Credibility is very important among national leaders and this includes private conduct and who they surround themselves with.
The dilemma of individuality vs duty as a nationsâs representative, some feel the PM s behaviour also reflects their values and some feel individuality shall be celebrated apart from their jobs. As a politician, no matter what the details of the truth is, it might be more about how it appears, as the end of the day all the news title will be â Finland PMâ did this or that, with pictures as such n such. Thats why some may feel deeply offended as they donât share her values , as well as some donât mind as they think itâs her individuality. But notice all the International news titles will put her title before her own name.
Dude...imagine if the pope has...a biological kid...even if thats the remnant from his life before being a priest, it would still cause uproar cos the office is higher than the individual. If u, as individual, cant live up to the office, then step down.
I like how they always leave out she was grinding with multiple men on the dance floor while they muzzled her neck and she was also sitting on their laps. All while her husband was at home watching their child. Let a married man do that with a woman who is not his wife and see if these women defend that with their dancing.
The problem is not the dancing, the problem is she is a PM, a wife, and a mom. How Finn people accept a leader behave like that? And also the second problem (again) is not dancing or the song. partying like that is the problem from first place. Thats embarrassing.
Imagine her kid old enough and wants to searching information of her mom on internet. What the first thing will show up?
Your post-colonial mysogynist behaviour is an embarrassment, Ragil.
What, your mom never partied? Literally all moms do (who arent oppressed by their husbands). This is just what happens when our PM isn't an 80yo man.
When I first read about it I thought "poor lady, people are overreacting about it", however, by that time, I didn't know she was on duty, neither did I know she was married (brazilian news channels failed to include those informations)
I strongly agree with her that political persons are humans, and, had it been a male prime minister, he wouldn't get the same treatment or repercussion, for sure, however, it was incredibly tacky and disrespectful towards her family to be dancing that closely to that man. I have a few finnish friends here in brazil and they never even kissed female friends in the cheek (which is the ordinary greeting in our country), so, to me, it's pretty clear that a finn won't be touching a total stranger or a friend like that.
Also, I agree about getting intoxicated while on duty. We had a senator fire for use of c0caine, and, personally, doesn't matter wether se was or wasn't on drugs. Alcohol can cloud one's judgement just as bad, so she souldn't be drinking at that time. Period.
She was disrespectful to her family and her country, and I don't think that's something that can be tolerated, really.
Also, if she wanted to party, she shouldn't have canceled her holiday, and that would be a little less terrible. Still, holidays are not hall passes
Ofc a male pm would face the same repercussions
Everyone has roles to play. And in each role, there is image or expectation to uphold. Just a simple example, imagine a teacher partying this way during breaktime. How many students after seeing this will be serious with this teacher's teachings?
One night of our class vacation (1985) our teachers were the drunkest. We as the students (8th) made sure to come back to our hostel. No problem. They were cute and obviously underestimated their shots.
We respected them not differently. Just talked the next day, initiated by them, over the risks of getting easily intoxicated.
"We are sorry that this happened. But now we all know first hand how easily even adults can underestimate shots." They were upset about themselves. I respected them for their honesty. You don't have to be perfect but integrity counts.
@@alana8388 In the first place, why the apology, what guilt are they having?
For one, this video newer was suppose to become public, it was in private home in private parties. So basically when we know that these videos leask sooner or later, we either have to demand best of behavior 24/7 thus stripping all humanity from our politicians or we can just let them have fun in their private lives, despite the videos leaking.
Honestly, I had college teachers join us in parties and get wasted, the respect was the same. That is exactly the point. My teachers were on an actual break, the finnish prime minister wasn't. If she wanted to party, she shouldn't have canceled her holiday
@@miyapozo You should tell that to our whole government then and to all our state institutes and organizations.
I mean most of the time our nation is led drunk, most of the important decisions are being made drunk in sauna even today, and even foreign diplomats has to train to drink to be able to do their work in our nation.
So yeah, one PM doing the same what the whole government does isn't the problem here, it is exactly as i said, either it is 24/7 or not at all.
Agree with what you've said. I only add that I make a moral judgement on her around the way she's dancing with other men so intimately while being married with a child. And in general all of this is not acceptable behaviour for a leader of a country. The people who vote for her are quite conservative too, I think it will cost her.
My thinking on this is if the person she's supposed to be most dedicated to can't trust her then how can an entire country trust her? And the same thing coming from her side, if she's willing to do such things and betray her husband and child then why should you believe she won't betray people she doesn't even know and likely doesn't actually care much about when compared to her family. That's where I would have my issues with it along with the fact these actions also make her vulnerable to foreign influence. Let's say more happened and a foreign government got their hands on the video and decided to blackmail her with it. So yeah I'd say there's quite a lot wrong with putting yourself in that situation as a prime minister.
I know nothing about Marin or her marriage, so just assumed she must be in an open relationship. If ethical non-monogamy is the deal, then that one is a non-issue for me. I don't care who's snogging whom so long as she does a good job on-duty. If it's NOT the deal, well, they, uh, probably need to talk. As someone said, stuff like this might become a point of blackmail, although feck knows how many male leaders/celebs -of the past- have had affairs quietly swept under the rug or rationalised (at least by enough voters), as the natural manly manâą thing to do, and not impairing their ability to king/PM/general/whatever.
I WANT to like her, which I've never said about any politician, and I don't begrudge anyone their 'recharge' time, but misjudging when to call it a night appears to be a recurring theme here... At least the Covid party seems to have been a genuine mistake, unlike some politicians here in the UK who have been caught deliberately flouting rules they made for everyone else to follow!
It really bothers me that people want to make this about the partying. No one has a problem with partying. It's about what went on AT the party, poor company, and a lot of irresponsible behaviour. So far, it looks like there was probably illegal drug use, and more details keep coming out that don't look good. We have a useleas drug test that proves nothing because it was taken too late. And Sanna Marin's devotees have an excuse for everything because apparently we don't have standards anymore. And then there are the lies straight from Sanna Marin's mouth. I have dealt with a few narcissists in my time and I'm fairly sure she is one. She has always enjoyed attention when it's posing topless on a magazine cover, but can't take the slightest bit of criticism or answer simple questions.
yea almost all politicians are exactly like that lol
@@kavics98 Yep, it always amazed me that, in order to drive a private car (not to mention a passenger bus) you have to:
- prove that you are healthy mentally and physically,
- get appropriate training,
- successfully pass the exams and get the license.
But nothing like this is required to "drive" a whole country (or a relatively large business).
@@smv_-re5rb true that, and not only that, but ALL of the workers in every single ministry should be tested mentally. well i guess its our duty now to change the system if our parents couldn't.
I didnât understand the drug testing part but since you explained it was mentioned in the video, makes sense. Media here in NY left that out. Nice video. Good change of pace đđđ
It was suspected she used drugs like 3 weeks ago and now she did a urine drug test, which shows use from 3 to 4 days for amphetamine and cocaine. Cannabis maybe 2-5 weeks. Pointless test she should have tested drugs from hair or something
the drug test is meaningless since the party was about 3 weeks ago
@@Abdul_rahman_von_yasin Yes, but she take test to shout mouth of idiots from press and loud mouth politicians.
@@Milos_Pradavni yeah i know right sanna marin is the worst
Media in America conveniently portrayed this incident in a very progressive way saying she's a human after all and have every right to party sometimes. Lol.
Nice change of content Aleksi!, good idea to talk about the "topic of the moment".
I am Finnish and this is shockingly the first time i hear about this whole thing
Finland: the happiest country in the world for a few years in a row
Also Finland: gets angry at the PM for dancing
@@Funkeditup I watched a video recently of a journalist talking to Finns about it, and him making the argument that Finns are not happiest people, but the most content.
I agree with that.
Being contempt = having nothing to complain about = no negativity
Being happy = having things to be happy from = that there is positivity
Tel different things. While being contempt is a good base to become happy from, it's not the same thing, and being contempt doesn't automatically make you happy. It requires more than having nothing negative to be happy.
I lived in other countries and nobody was smiling 24/7. By the way you can smile, but inside you are very unhappy.
@@Funkeditup You know what HAPPY means - as things are rolling Your Way ! You can trust - The Elections - and results ! There IS No Mickey Mouse - as The HEAD of State ! You greet Your neighbours - and read & share The same Magazines ! You need to know People - WHO You DO trust ! Simple Life & with sauna benefits !
Thank you for your input. Basically a prime minister should always be able to function as Prime Minister. This should mean that use of any intoxicant be minimal because emergencies do come up and generally emergencies are unplanned and unscheduled therefore anyone in the PM position should be prepared for those even when they seem completely unlikely.
Dual citizen in JKL.
Absolutely correct
If she wants to have fun and go to parties, let her. What's the problem? BUT, if the videos were leaked, like she claims, then she should reconsider who she surrounds herself with.
Shouldn't she have already done that, you know before being a PM? If I'm joining the police, i don't want to be seen around even people who snort occasionally.
@@rutvikrs couldnât agree more
Her immaturity shows. She is probably being setup to fail. They seem to churn over their presidents and prime ministers often in those Nordic Countries as a matter of rhythm.
Dont drink while on the job! How hard is that to understand for someone intelligent enough to be a prime minister?!
Also you are stupid enough to defend this woman before you even figured out what exactly she did wrong
What do you think of the incident? Let me know in the comments.
Here are some additional thoughts on the topic, but please remain critical :
- These kinds of leaks can be taken advantage of by foreign intelligence
- There are theories that this leak was facilitated by Russia, manipulating the public conversation
- Some believe this was a media stunt done on purpose because Parliamentary Elections are only seven months away.
- The videos were originally posted to a private Instagram account (stories) and someone leaked the videos from there. It seems Sanna Marin was aware that the videos were posted there. At the moment it's unknown who exactly leaked the videos.
I think that she is the perfect complement to your foreign minister, to adequately represent Finland anywhere in the world đ
mate i seriously doubt Russia had anything to do with it. in the current climate its trendy to just blame Russia for everything LMAO. i find it really hilarious actually how people blame their own failures on Russia and refuse to take responsibility :D
i think the more realistic scenario is that it is some kind of a political stunt done by her team to present her to the people as a regular woman who behaves like normal women (even tho i think at 36 years of age this is not how typically women behave at that age, this is more like women in teens and twenties) so she could gain popularity and to just distract the public from the problems Finland is going through with electricity prices going up and inflation and life expenses rising.
@@openbob6656 Well ... before, the Jews were blamed for all the troubles, but now the fashion for Russians has come...
It's always said that "The first step to cure a disease is to admit that you are ill."
What the PM did was unforgivable for someone in her position.
Discussing how it was leaked is a side matter but prople shouldn't avert their eyes from what REALLY happened.
Politics is always dark, I bet there are some people who would take advantage of this incident even if it's not made on purpose.
As a foreigner, I think partying isn't a problem as long as the politicians (not only in Finland but also in any country) aren't on duty when they do so.
Thanks for organizing all these information in a balanced manner, which makes me much more clear on what is happening!
Glad to hear it!
I am surprised she has not been punished more for going out to a nightclub last Christmas when she was supposed to be isolating as a COVID close contact. This event you are presenting now is so minor by contrast. Her contempt seems worse than Boris Johnson or the PM of Norway when they were exposed for having a small gathering when they were not Close Contacts at that point in time.
I do agree that christmas thing was a much more big deal than this "I am a human" moment as the government was telling everyone else to stay safe
Yes, while she was partying in a club, I was being prevented from accessing my local swimming pool, which I desperately needed when I was heavily pregnant and unable to get any other kind of exercise. She lied about it then and she's lying now. I don't know why people are so eager to cover for her.
Exactly...good point!
Women don't have consequences.
@@kathrinkaefer it's a great distraction from inflation, dried up river systems across the North hemisphere, and no aspirations to articulate for the future. Keeps people cynical and unable to have constructive and challenging thoughts.
Aleksi, I have some advice. As a outsider looking in to a country I am going to move to.
The PM is a public servant in the highest position of power, with that you will need to be seen in a certain light. You have an important job, to serve your people in the best way possible, to make changes to the country that best serves its people, to make sure that the country you live in can always strive to be better. The term for this service is 4 years. Its not a long time. You get paid well. You need to be the best person you can be, and also be a role model for future PM's. This doesn't mean you cannot have a personal life, but you need to make sure you remain professional at all times. You are to sacrifice your life for 4 years to serve your people. That is what the people of Finland pay that position to do.
Please for the love of all that is good. You guys need to remain vigilant. The west is completely fucked. Our Leaders are self serving only, only serving their own needs, and that of their peers. They are narcissists.
If Finns think that this type of behavior is unacceptable, all power to you, she uses dangerous language when she commented about that she is going to still do stuff that she wants to do, that is a slippery slope, because you do not want your country to fall into the hands of someone that thinks in that way.
You pay her wages. You have the right to be pissed off if she's not doing her job.
If she is actually doing a really good job policy wise, then maybe this could be forgiven. But again, she should have apologized for video and her behavior, not reinforce it but saying that just because she's a leader of your country, she cant party and get drunk. I'm sorry but that is what the position of power requires, absolute sacrifice to serve your people.
Good to hear your opinion on this.
Thanks good stuff!
Thanks for this very intelligent and very constructive video. When this story was first swirling around, my biggest question was what Finnish people thought about the incident. Obviously, PM Marin is responsible to the Finnish people, and what they think of her behavior matters much more than what some media-types say in an effort to get attention for themselves, especially if those media-types are not Finns. Kudos to you for giving a balanced view of the situation. Very helpful. (BTW, I'm an American; our president is more likely to trip on stairs than manage dance moves.)
Thanks!
They leaked IT on purpose ! Actually - Everybody started talking - Should We raise The Age - to Run this Nation ?
Love your vids Alexsi!đđđ
I seen a good tweet earlier about this whole situation that went something like this: "As new younger leaders of countries emerge we should probably start to get used to this, leaders been more "free" and social media "scandals" involving them, in 10 years this will all be just normal" I have to agree đ€·đŒââïž
Shes being ridiculed because she was grinding on strange men and getting kissed while her husband was home with their child. And she also took topless photos in the office
And no, we shouldn't get used to leaders cheating on footage and bragging about drug use. This is plain disgusting
@@MB2.0 the world is become more backward, ppl accepting bad things just because many ppl do it. what a logic
I am a ex-pat Finn living in Australia and yes we know about this as well. So yes, it has gone viral around the world. As the world is in a recession possibly going into a depression like 1929 - it seems not the best idea to party when you might have an energy crisis in Europe and lot of people will face hardship. When people struggle to put food on the table and your PM is partying like no tomorrow seems a bit hypercritical. I thought you might have more important issues to deal with. At times like this you need strong leadership to guide people through the crises that is unfolding. People use alcohol and drugs when they are not coping with issues in their lives. I have witnessed this first hand, so maybe there is some underlying issues?
The second issue is security, I know Finland is a safe country but I remember this: "On 28 February 1986, at 23:21 CET, Olof Palme, Prime Minister of Sweden, was fatally wounded by a single gunshot while walking home from a cinema with his wife Lisbeth Palme on the central Stockholm street SveavÀgen. Lisbeth Palme was slightly wounded by a second shot. The couple did not have bodyguards with them." Just wondering if she has security and if so what is their role?
Love to see how the West, from States to Europe fail in the hand of the Left.
@@Valokaari
< But she should have security at all times when she is out of the residence or home>
Sooo...why allow the recording to happen?????
Either shes stupid or her security details are stupid.
For how long you be immigrant(ex-pat for sound cool), you already fluently in Finnish
How much in general - People know about Our Country - Down Under ? Some history - As at Helsinki Olympics 1952 - Finnish Baseball was an exhibition game - and The Plan was that IT would make IT to Melbourne Games 1956 ! Was RULES of The Game too diffycult or The distance too GREAT ?
@@holoholopainen1627 I wasn't around in the 1950's so I cannot really comment. I was born in Finland, so I do know somethings about my home country - both good and bad.
She is facing the repercussions of social media, a hit back from what her generation represents and promots, food for thought
I just came back from Finland on Sunday and this was all over the newspapers, I understand why Finnish people may be upset. However, as an American, I am used to much worse behavior from politicians. As long as Marin was not doing illegal drugs I don't see that this should be considered harmful
Shes being ridiculed because she was grinding on strange men and getting kissed while her husband was home with their child. And she also took topless photos in the office
@@MB2.0 No she did not. No need to lie. Her friend took toples selfies.
@@tkai6055 Either way it's a problem because she has poor judgement. If her friend was a russian asset her entire office would be bugged because she was too drunk to follow security protocols. As if the lack of integrity and kissing strange men on video wasn't enough
With how bad stuff is going in America? Its all the more reason we should be more angry at misbehaving politicians
sounds drug shamey
Thank you for breaking down this story well
Did they figure out who filmed this and uploaded it? I wonder why it was uploaded. Was it on purpose, to hurt her?
That's also what I am asking myself, but I suppose someone uploaded it to hurt her and her position, why else would that person upload this, I don't think there isn't any other reason, or that person also was just too drunk and thought it is fun ? Who knows, who knows
@@mizulightblue I would guess that the people around here are not "dumb" people and are aware of the consequences of uploading something like this. But maybe they are not... who knows.
The filming is most likely known. The thing was it was supposed to just go on private. I don't think anyone knows who leaked it
My Finnish girlfriend is very upset with her partying.
As an Aussie I imagine if our PM acted like that there would be many in the community that would be against it but also we had PM, Bob Hawke, who held a beer drinking record for many years.
I have been married to a Finn for the last 55 years, and we both think just because of the present problems in the world, it is a necessity to be able to switch off the daily pressures. What she did is not illegal, but unfortunate that someone who wanted to damage her reputation, made sure it got public attention.
@@knutneumann7311 Shes being ridiculed because she was grinding on strange men and getting kissed while her husband was home with their child. And she also took topless photos in the office
@@knutneumann7311 look up the video of Sanna marin dancing with olavi uusivirta. He kissed her on the neck. She also chanted "powder gang" on her video which is slang for coke
@@knutneumann7311 If she had made better decisions, there would be nothing to damage her reputation. Do not take agency away from the most powerful person in or nation.
How fortunate she is that there was nothing bad happening during her R&R like it's 1999. I know that "third time's the charm" but I don't think she should push her luck doing like this next time.
Thank you for your great insight, Sir! Very eloquent and professional. Honestly, PM Marin has to admit she has done some poor decision making. Misleading, trying to shift the blame will not help. As usual, now, ' Experts' feels that she is victimise and attacked due to her gender. PM Boris was literally destroyed during PMQ in UK for attending staff gathering. At that moment, there were no 'Gender' issues by the 'experts'. This nothing got to do about gender!!! She needs to lead by example and yes, you want to have social life, however, when you are holding the highest position in the country, nevertheless, you need to know something called ' limitation'. She wants to be on social media, encourages people to so and nothing stays private when you are holding Public office. She seems to enjoy being surrounded by celebs and parties. It is so scary, when any PM or President says, that they are able to make sound decision when they are influenced with Alcohol! You are a leader of many household of your country.
At the end of the day, the silent majority, will express their feeling during election. Reminder, there are critical situation at your border. The very same group of people, media, leaders supports here, will turn their back when they get tired of the same issue! Hopefully, the PM realises, it is about the citizens of Finland and not about her.
I think comparison with Boris Johnson and Sanna Marin shows the complete opposite. Boris got away with quite a number of bad behavior and choices. He ignored the COVID19 lockdown rules his own government had instituted. Sanna Marin didn't do anything that serious. He also kept making up excuses every time, while Sanna Marin actually owned up and apologized.
No, I think when people start saying she was worse than Boris Johnson then there is definitely a gender discrimination issue still ongoing, and women are at the receiving end.
@@erikengheim1106 Boris got kicked out, while she didn't. What are you smoking?
@@vankyer Boris actually broke rules repeatedly and repeatedly lied. Boris Johnson was exactly the kind of manipulative, dishonest politician you would want to kick out.
Sanna Marin has not been lying, manipulating and running Finland to the ground like Boris has done to Britain. Very BIG difference.
Trying to spin this as equal cases just exposes the misogyny.
@@erikengheim1106 And calling someone misogynistic for no base or reason is only something a virtue signalling idiot would do. Though idk much about finland, but I do know that the country is bordering with russia. With a pm who is openly cheating, had numerous bouts of partying during covid, potentially leaking classified info to her influencer friends while being drunk. Not a good look for her, ngl. Even the polls are in major support for opposition now. That alone is very telling.
@@vankyer I call is as I see it. You bias is just confirmed by the negative rant you followed up on. Sanna Marin followed all the known COVID19 rules. You clearly try to spin this as if she didn't. Boris Johnson broke very well known rules in a lock down period by having a large party.
Sanna Marin in contrast was vaccinated and told that it was fine for her to go out because of that. Then they changed their mind and she missed that message. You spin such a minor miss into being some nefarious reckless COIVD19 partying, ignoring all rules. Not giving a crap. It is pretty clear that you want to paint her in the most negative light possible. The misogyny label is well earned.
"Openly cheating" my ass. Go home to Saudi Arabia dude.
Seriously have you never been drunk or high before? You think a person cannot party with friends without spilling sensitive information. Double standards. How many male politicians have not been caught drunk over the years, in public duty no less? Ref Boris Jeltsin. But sure lets ignore that. Lets instead focus on what women do in their spare time.
"virtue signaling" is what cynics say who have zero ideals, and hate that not everybody has the same rotten and negative view of the world as themselves.
The drug tests came up negative. It seems like the tabloids needed something to post. It looked like the scandal was stuff the general public does not have any real reason to care about. Most of the club and party stuff did not look like it had anything to do with the Prime Minister's leadership. At no point in the videos did it look like the Prime Minister was too drunk or drugged to be on call if needed. It looked like the politicians were still ready to respond to any crisis or emergency as duty required.
The drig tests were urine tests taken 2 weeks after the drugs. Urine tests show only up to 3 days. So the fact that she came with urine tests and not a hair test makes it all the less believeable
@@Trukki She's shound't have take any test in first place.
When you are a head of state or prime minister your public behavior is always under scrutiny. If you want to live like a carefree private person, you run the risk of losing your credibility. The Prime Minister needs to decide what she wants more, the prestige and authority of a national leader or the public image of an insouciant bon vivant.
Lol, yeah. Even those rich guys (like bill gates) are careful in conducting their private affairs in public.
@@eleethtahgra7182 Lol, nah. You have seen Bill Gates drunk and jumping around at a party? Also, he is not a head of state or prime minister. I really don't know what your point is.
@@DCFunBud the point is, with high status, u gotta be careful how you conduct yourself publicly.
@@eleethtahgra7182 agree
As a finn living abroad I do not give a flying fuck how many men she rubs on, that's a private family matter that doesn't impact the rest of us at all. But what I do care about and what the rest of us should care about is the fact she clearly was drunk during duty. Nothing else matters. That's the thing that matters. You simply do not use any substances on duty. If you cannot have the self control to wait till you are not in duty then you clearly should not work this job. I disagree with this as much as I disagree with on duty doctors, cops and firemen getting drunk.
You also cannot judge your own self about how drunk you were and if it will negatively impact your work...
You SHOULD care. Because footage of her being a cheater can be used for blackmail and national secrets. Secondly, if she's letting sleezy friends into her office, listening devices can be planted.
You should think further
If she can't be loyal to her husband, how's she going to be loyal to her country? Maybe klaus schawb can shed more light on that one.
Thanks Aleksi! I'm a 4th generation Finn. I've been to finland 3 times and I pay close attention to news out of Finland. I feel the leaks put on news media here in the US are often lies to trick the common sense module of the brains of so many. IT seems to work! Lol. I've seen double standards, ignored by government officials. I'm totally in agreement with you. The Finns will take care of this matter. I'm more concerned with Finland joining Nato. I don't want another US proxy war started in Finland!
Kiitoksia!
Finland has changed alot during Those 4 Generations ! Only 2 Generations ago We send close to 500.000 Best workers to build Up Sweden ! - and Thanks to that - We are short of workers in Finland today !
Do you really think any country on the planet would enjoy invading Finland?
Finland the only Army where their weather is a serious weapon.
Finland's terrain is almost impassable with modern tanks etc.
Finnish military people are trained to fight on ground that is just like Finland 90% of world soldiers aren't.
No one will ever invade Finland.
@@holoholopainen1627 r u from Finland?
@@krooscontrol3978 Yes - I am !
@@holoholopainen1627 sir how is Finland? How's ur new president? Is there any corruption? Is there poverty? Inequality, racism?
I saw Finland on the list of worlds happiest countries.
honestly I think there's two seperate issues, one is how Finn think of her as leadership personality and the other is her as PM. Imo, the severity would be valid if she was the "president", because my understanding is that the safety of country defense is upmost important and rely on the president, so if the role of PM was to make sure just that the day-to-day tasks are in order, then I'm not seeing the big deal to party. Only cuz when something hugely threatening to Finland like the Ukraine war happened, I saw your president mostly, like you said of it's not threatening country safety and the daily jobs getting done, I think it's not horrible, but I'll say that things would have been much much better received if this had happened to an official not in charge as the captain of a government.
Hi, for me the main problem is social media more than content. I think finnish prime minister is just human like us. To enjoy and have a party is not a crime, and what she said just should be private. Some others politician are doing form far more bad stuff while there are taking some decision. Maybe have a good party, sex, alcool is something that others politicians do but without video leaks. This story is just a story of private leaks.
I'm French and I envy your country for you prime minister, I don't say she is perfect but she is normal for me. If this event doesn't impact the leading of her country I say Yes.
the partying itself isnt the problem with this case or that it was leaked, it was all the other stuff that happened because of the partying
Shes being ridiculed because she was grinding on strange men and getting kissed while her husband was home with their child. And she also took topless photos in the office, while also chanting powder gang.
Good to hear your opinion :)
@4:45 so true. Leader of a nation is a 24/7 duty
Finnish people have a legitimate concern about Marin's fitness to be a PM. A prime minister is a position of power - one would expect anyone holding the position to be extraordinarily careful in how she or he behaves. For a PM, there is no private life. It is not a regular 9-5 job.
But you did have a male PM who did things like this: Urho Kekkonen! This was in the days before cell phones and social media though...
Good video though, very balanced analysis
Hey Aleksi have you been to Stockholm University? If so is it as good as Helsinki University?
I don't have experience in either of them.
Aleksi, I thought your post was measured, informative and fair. I wish mainstream media was more like this. I never respond to click-bait, shock-horror, or pearl-clutching stuff (from any sort of media) anymore, as it just feels like I'm being used or people / companies are pushing their own agenda - which I hate.
In this case, just as in any other job, people need their down-time, so a job's responsibilities - whether high or low profile - should always reflect this (adequate cover provided). Maybe Sanna partied that bit TOO hard (in some people's eyes) BECAUSE of the stresses of always having to be "on call". You wouldn't expect a doctor to be on call 24/7 for all of their career, and they also have so much responsibility and the need to be on top of their game.
Here in the UK, I hadn't looked too much into the 'scandal' other than seeing a couple of short video clips of a young woman enjoying herself - fairly unremarkably - at a party. It all seemed kind of innocuous on the face of it. But, then, I didn't know that Sanna was married, or that there was suggestive / maybe inappropriate behaviour with someone that wasn't her husband. If that is reflective of cracks in her marriage, it's very sad - whether or not the evidence got out to the whole world. I guess she is human, just like the rest of us. We should count ourselves lucky our mistakes don't get shown to the world.
I realise Finnish PMs are not like, say, US Presidents, with a security detail always to hand to help prevent them being filmed in the first place ... though that means privacy when out in a group setting wouldn't exist anyway. I don't know what the answer is, to be honest! Even the most mild-mannered, principled politicians can be slated and ripped to shreds by the media, if the owners of that media have an agenda. You only need to look at the case of Jeremy Corbyn, ex leader of the UK's Labour Party, to realised that. Who'd be a high-profile politician, eh?
Were they not just simply singing a kind of "party" song? "SelvĂ€ pĂ€ivĂ€" by Petri NygĂ„rd? đ€ Maybe too much trouble about nothing?
Better question at the time would have been what was the alcohol blood level?
That could have more of a impact on decision making ?
I guess we all forgot the outcome of #10 Downing Street ?
I think she is doing a awesome job in her position, but seeing one of her so called friends posted the video, I might suggest looking at oneâs friends as we all are judged by the company we keep .
Once again, the concern would really be the level of alcohol in making clear judgments in case of a real emergency or crisis.
Don't worry Finns can take alcohol much better than anybody, and she does not look too drunk to.
@@Milos_Pradavni good to know .
What if something happens in this irregular times, maybe she is just so busy having fun and cannot really deal with matters. I was so suprised she started crying in the public and it also probably made people there worried so much if they are sane enough to understand this irregular situation they are facing with
Fellow Nordic in Norway here. I think you had a great analysis Aleksi. I got to agree with you that there was some elements of poor judgement here by Sanna Marin. On the other hand I think the whole thing got blow out of proportion. I am also from a culture of hard drinking when partying. I am 44 now with two kids and don't really drink anymore. But sure before I had kids I was at these kinds of parties and know it is pretty common for people to act out a lot. It is not that unusual for people who know each other well or who are friends to get maybe a bit more intimidate than they should when intoxicated. There is generally quite a big distinction between what done while drunk and what done while sober in Norway. It is sort of accepted that people who drank a lot of alcohol do stupid stuff. The day after you are expected to get back to being a boring self composed inhibited Norwegian. It is a bit of a Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde thing I have noticed many foreigners react to.
For me what matters most is that Sanna Marin sticks to the core Nordic values: Honesty. She is not trying to pass off blame on somebody else. She is not denying what she did. She isn't starting to attack somebody else. As a Norwegian who follows US politics a lot it gets to me how often they straight out deny stuff or go on the attack when caught doing something bad. Sanna Marin is owning what she did and honest about who she is.
I keep telling my kids that we all make mistakes. We all screw up. Our character is not judged by our screwups but by how we own up to those screwups. Also I think in a world with so many corrupt politicians and where politics is really nasty with lots of insults and personal attacks, Sanna Marin should be honored for being an honest and nice person who isn't attacking and insulting other people. Quite the contrary she is promoting a more inclusive society. That counts for a lot more than some error in judgement about partying.
She used poor judgment because she is totally lacking in her morals. I am saddened to think that people aren't making that connection. This is a way of life for her and you're making it sound like it was a one time event. It's always wrong to have an affair and grinding another man while married is just that. She is a train wreck.
As an American, if partying is the biggest political scandal your prime minister can commit, y'all don't realize how good you have it
In India they called it brothel & just last month police raid one politician house & the case is going on
Me as a Brazilian: Let's trade politics? Finland really needs to see what problems are...
I think the same, Wits. So much fuss about such an irrelevant matter. In case Finland needs some real problems, we might export some of ours to them.
@@danieldedomenico8957 Yes! Are you also Brazilian friend? They have no problems so a woman partying is their biggest scandal đ Meanwhile here the politics are stealing money from the schools, corruption everywhere, traveling with people's money...
When is the next party? This weekend?
As a long time supporter of an opposing party this "scandal" made me also realize how small minded and opportunistic some MPs can be and thus I'm changing my view and voting for Sanna in the upcoming elections. She has actually managed quite well in these extraordinary times even tho some might disagree.
I am not any Sanna Marin fan boy, but as what comes to this party it was pretty clean party, i have seen lot of worse. She has been this kind of modern PM which does not fit for all, some want stronger commanding figure but i think she is on right way compared to couple earlier PM:s who failed miserably and Sanna Marin will be remembered too being part of this energy policy change where cheap energy is no more the thing and it will lead to really bad situation possible collapsing whole Europe., also joining Nato but some could say it is positive thing but we will see.
@@freezedeve3119 You are correct and that's what I ment with comment that some might disagree. Honestly this is more like a witch hunt from the opposing party supporters. The main reason for the hatred is mostly the economic outlook (increasing government debt, inflation, Uniper energy fiasco etc) and slowly rotting working conditions in Finnish heathcare system (not enough nurses) which has boiled over in this party 'scandal'.
@@kaivaja nurse problem has been expected because old people are now on that phase where is peak, couple decades and thing has fixed itself.
Sanna is awesome, i would like to have PM like her here in Serbia. She young, smart, beautiful, good in her job. I guess this is all new to people, having young PM. Only mistake is made by person who posted this on social media, and press who make this "scandal". Go Sanna.
Is this sarcasm
Cause it would be pretty close minded to change views over things like this that have nothing to do with politics
In what way has she actually managed well (there is not much to compare with the situation we have been in for a few years but that is no reason to automaticly assume she has done a better job then other people would have done in her position)
In the words of French President Mitterand: Et alors? And that was him admitting something. Here we have a PM who led her country through crisises , who just like to dance and enjoy herself. The country was never in danger and even if an emergency had occurred, her cabinet and other people in executive power would assist in decisions. In a fair and just society like Finland everybody is innocent until proven otherwise. If she so states that nothing unlawful happened, and nothing her husband can't know, that's it. NATO membership is not dependent on her private time behaviour. For God's sake, there's plenty of NATO members representatives that have done far more egregious things, known and unknown. As have other political figures in Finland. And does the timing doesn't strike you? Who's to gain from govt. trouble? Far right and Russia ! So Fins should have a hard look at their own standards and apply them to their PM also. Nobody is perfect, but Finland is at the top of it's class in almost every category, and not all problems are this govt's fault. Many are inherited. And overall Finland has been led quite good. So many people need to come of their high horse and appreciate. Most of us non-Fins can only dream of such a PM and govt.!
But if were being fair then she should also not be given credit for the majority of the success Finland has had either just like a lot of the problems the good things are also inherited. Finland already them before she was prime minister
She could have never been prime minister and Finland would have done just as well
Russia? Really? Next day after video Finland decided to close vises for Russians. Not very popular idea in Finland, but they do it. After that video. That's why I see other side in this situation.
Moi.2 questions.Who leaked the video and who profit from it. Kiitos
the audio mixing on this video is all kinds of messed up
Like the comment mine below said: As someone from the USA, I canât comment on another nationâs politics for a variety of reasons, including the people at Washington, but I have been reading some articles about it. I decided to do that after watching your video: at the end of the day, itâs her life, and she can do what she wants in her private time as long as she isnât hurting anyone or herself, I did hear some people say she was doing this on work hours, but I donât know if thatâs true or false because I heard it here in the comments, so Iâm not going to say anything about that. In the USA, if any politician were to be caught doing this, it would be the scandal of the century and people would react in a variety of negative ways depending on factors like your ethnicity, biological sex, gender, sexual orientation, religion, class, age, etc. and if the person in question is rich, they can get away with it via bribes and walk away with no consequences.
Imo, even the PM has a right to have free time and enjoy it. We all ain't robots, we can't work 24/7, no matter how important some jobs might be.
And I thought finns don't care about others' personal lives. That means her dancing with some man shouldn't be anybody's business. We don't know what's happening in her life and why she acts like this. And we shouldn't know. Thus we cannot really judge her.
Keep in mind, that was one big IMO.
"Dancing with some man" is everyone's business, it is a major security risk when the government is not aware who she is in contact with, especially at venues where cocaine is used. Remember that Finland borders Russia, this is a major security lapse.
@@sophieedel6324 i doubt you would be concerned about her private life if that video wasn't leaked. Unless you're not some creep, lol. And no, it's not everyone's business, but only hers. Afaik, this situation can simply be an attempt to throw a shadow over her due to elections in Finland or something.
I'd suggest that government sure knows about her contracts and if someone would be a threat to country's safety and security. That what's secret agents and special forces are exist for. And if there's something Finland should worry about, only government would know it. Not some random people in yt comments, including you and me. They will manage, I'm sure.
@@lexehwaz If the wider government knew about the parties, that's even worse, since cocaine was used at those parties, which is strictly illegal.
@@sophieedel6324 pls provide proof that there was coke on those parties. all i know is that Sanna passed the drug test
@@lexehwaz there shouldn't be a drug test if you are responsible, anyway, you are clearly highly defensive of her, no point arguing further
I would like to add that if you post these videos to an Instagram account with 90+ people, even when it's a private account, can you really say it was meant to be a private one? As if anyone has close to 100 trusted friends. Lack of judgement from Sanna Marin, once again.
No one, not the PM of Finland or any other human being can be "on duty" 24/7/365. That insane. If the country is so dependant on one person, well you've got other problems. She stated at the start of her term she wanted to redefine somewhat the role and how the PM is perceived. She's doing just that. She's is not only allowed, but *entitled* to live her life as she sees fit. She, at least as far as I can see, represented the interests of Finland abroad very well. She's met the goals of her administration and guided the country through some of the most serious challenges since the end of WWII. If a private life that's a little too exciting or risque for some is the worst of it, then I think that's a more than fair deal! To be honest this smacks of little more than some old ppl griping, political opponents taking advantage , and plain old misogyny.
Fair points. Maybe it'd work better if the country would not depend on the PM (or maybe it already works this way) and allows to enjoy free time. I think she's done a decent job, with a few mishaps.
Perhaps it has to do with the fact Finland does not have nukes. In my country, constitutional posts are 24/365. Not that you don't get personal time or sleep. Just that you must be able if the situation demands it.
If your army general has a tendency to drink to the point of losing rational capability even for a few hours in a decade, that person shouldn't be given the responsibility.
Also it's fascinating, if true that Finns don't have a concept of formality. I have been a consultant who travelled the world and the first unwritten rule is don't get seen drunk if you choose to do it in personal time.
She is expected to appoint a deputy in her absence, which is more than fair, and she did not. We are literally a neighbour of Russia at a time of war, if she can't handle the responsibility she shouldn't be in the job, simple as.
Completely agree @Tuomas Leone
Hi from India. I also think every individual has a right to personal space. Be it the PM, President or any other celebrity for that matter. But I am not able to understand why these moments were being filmed. And moreover, being PM of any country is a huge responsibility. People have vested power in you. What would happen in case of any emergency? A drunk PM will obviously take wrong decisions. And is there any need of doing PDA in public? She may have a lover but I don't find it encouraging to conduct herself in this manner in a public place. There's a procedure for everything. You cannot just do whatever you like and also be the head of the country. So many people have put their faith on this lady. Its high time she should think about it once. Peace.
Thank you đ
You missed the fact that Esko Aho actually was partying when Estonia sank. That was the point of publishing that story now. They had colleagues 50th birthday party the night before.
Prime minister is not the permanent executive. So its not necessary for the person to be there 24*7. That's job of the bureaucrats.
- Yes, videos of a political office holder partying with media personalities, intimately hugging leads to speculations- whether drunk or are close. But, apart from non-leave partying video to surface just raises a leader's code of conduct and the drug test: which was negative. Whom she/he is close to or how close is just society pressuring the individual to fit into some type ascetic or simplistic lifestyle.
That is a G7 meeting
Personally I think Boris Johnson throws a better party.
You have a nice prime-minister, perhaps many people which did to very emotional reaction on this video, just simple little bit envied that young musician which she danced with. I am really understand them on it)))
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Thanks Vanessa!
Am I the only one who is concluding that Aleksi's question about the PM's attitudte (if he were a male), was exposing the Finnish dilemma by overempowering women?
Only 3 more months and she will probably replaced by Orpo as prime minister and now the polls show Finns Party is also ahead of SDP (party of Sanna Marin) which means now its more likely for Riikka Purra to also be the next prime minister then it is for Marin to stay as prime minister
We'll see how things go!
as a individuals its their personal life either she is dancing or drinking or etc
If her behaviour created potential jeopardy for the country, then it would be a problem.
Video topic and discussion is good, mic is kinda bad
WE SHOULD BE HAPPY TO HAVE A HAPPY PM WHO IS A NORMAL HUMAN ....NOW I TRUST HER MORE AS THOSE ACTIONS TALK LOTS ABOUT HER BALANCED MIND AND HAPPY HUMANS READY TO LEAD KNOWING THE AMAZING AND THE REAL NEED OF THOSE HAPPY MOMENTS IN ORTHER TO BE A LEADER
Naah that's goes to show her being irresponsible. Idk but she might lose her credibility for this. I mean she's not just an ordinary office worker, she's a PRIME MINISTER not a CZcams INFLUENCER.
Nolointa lÀhinnÀ Olavi uusivirran nÀkeminen imemÀssÀ pÀÀministerin kaulaa...
PM is a role model for the nation. For any younger generation itâs very dangerous.
I think we are missing a point here..
We expect too much from our leaders. We have to remember one thing that they are also human beings and not Gods and Goddesses. So if Sanna Marin or any other politician enjoys life and parties we have to let them because they are not doing anything illegal.
I agree, as long as it doesn't put country to risk, is illegal or truly something outrageous that affects diplomacy, it shouldn't matter what our politicians do at their free time. If something, it is refreshing to see a politician that is actually an human being.
Did guests have to bring their own food?
You have to do everything with style, high class. Like Silvio Berlusconi. đ¶ïž
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I think she is a PM media and people should concentrate on her achievements that matter not her private life. Drug use is another thing. But I bet a lot of powerful people parties involve drugs, doesnât mean all attending use them.
About this, I think there are many aspects to take into account, but all of them starts from the distinction between how a PM or president should behave, and which PM's behaviour is accepted or tolerated by the national society. And, although the first point is more or less the same for all of us, the second one is surprisingly different between countries and it depends also on gender and culture. I think that Nordic countries usually set high standards and these two different points tend to be quite similar.
So, some behaviours which are accepted in some countries, they would be a reason for the governors to resign in Nordic countries.
In some countries, the PM or president and their families are considered as the "first family of the nation", and so the public and private behaviour, of any of them, is sanctioned by the society. Even, during their campaigns, the politicians use to appear with their families in order to show off as a role model, specially in conservative countries and where the religion is still important. Meanwhile, in other countries, the family and the private life of PM and presidents is strictly private as it doesn't interfere with their duties. For example, in France, almost all the last presidents of the country have had a scandal during their mandate: infidelities, breakups, non recognised children, etc. Other current ministers have even worse accusations. And nothing happens.
About parties, let's take the example of UK's PM. The reaction of Johnson, who denied until it was impossible to do it and even like this he didn't resign until the last minute, compared with the immediate reaction of the Finnish PM couldn't be more different.
But I'm sure if it were a woman who did all of that, in France, UK or any country, it wouldn't be tolerated in the same way. Maybe in Finland, despite of having better gender equality standards, the situation is still unequal.
Anyway, in general, the behaviour of politicians of Nordic countries is admired all over the world.
There is no Free Time as a PM, this isn't a 9-5 Job she's the leader of a country
This is like our Boris Johnson scandals in the UK. During COVID lockdown he was having parties at No 10. If you are not willing to accept strong limitations on your personal activities, you should not put yourself up for the job of PM. And you should be very careful of who you associate with - it looks like drugs were involved in the Finnish case and even the PM didn't actually take them herself, she must have been aware that others were. What would be her excuse if Russia launched an attack while she was drunkenly clubbing.
Hei Aleksi! Thank you for the video. That party looked a hell of a fun. I wish I was invited! I'm very saddened and frankly mad at how the media treated Sanna Marin. Shame! I was a bit teary-eyed when she defended herself during a press conference. She did not need to apologise for anything! She's a human being with a job, and she fad fun, danced with friends. That's it. As a Dane, seeing as Denmark and Finland are culturally similar, we have familiar ways of going about these leisure activities. Nothing new under the sun. There's a huge error around the idea that state leaders or (insert: doctor, lawyer, nurse etc.) don't have free time. Anyone, including those in higher positions do(es) and they absolutely *should* for the sake of their mental health. Otherwise, you're at high risk of experiencing burnout and other mental health issues. Take this seriously. Prioritising free time is a necessity, inasmuch as privacy is a human right. When I'm off my duty, I'm out of reach! My spare-time is mine only and that work email that was sent outside workhours will wait until the day after. Don't fucking tell me, the PM was on duty at 3 am! đ What people do and how they spend their free time, is nobody's concern. What is most concerning is not that Sanna Marin was out partying. It's the issue around privacy. There is no privacy left. The video of Sanna Marin was leaked without her consent. It's bad character to disrespect the boundaries of another person. This screams red flags to me. I would seriously consider to disengage, yes even to the point of removing myself from anyone who's repetitively shown complete disregard of my boundaries. #redflags #righttoprivacy #safespace
So why she fucking apologized? Every people know that she do not need... Tell you something she stand only to camera and other people's telling her, what she should doing or saying. This is not any lider for me.
Nothing surprises me when it comes to politicians. In my country (USA), corruption is the normal, to the point that supporters of one party or the other will ignore these things. It's disgusting.
It sounds to me like your PM may not be taking her job as seriously as perhaps she should be, and I would not at all be surprised if foreign intelligence, especially Russia, is trying to take advantage of that. That is what they do. Given how unhappy Putin is with Finland trying to join NATO, and that you guys are a border nation with Russia, I would not be at all surprised if he is making attempts to destabilize your country in some way.
With that said, the job of Prime Minister of ANY country is extremely demanding, and the people doing that job are only human, and do deserve some time to unwind. Duty does have to come first, though. Being overly intoxicated or unreachable in the event of an emergency or national/international crisis should not be considered acceptable behavior from any public official, especially at her level. If she was not on a sanctioned vacation and did not leave a deputy minister or other official in charge while she was off partying and such, then I would say that she needs to be held accountable in some way.
As far as the drug test goes: Anybody can say anything in the media, and lab results can be faked. She is literally one of the most powerful people in Finland, and I imagine that it would not be hard for her to obtain clean urine samples, pay off media outlets, pay off labs, etc. I don't think we are ever going to know for certain if she was or was not on drugs.
In regards to her intimate dancing with other men: Maybe her and her husband have an open marriage of some kind, or go to swinger's parties, and the general public isn't aware. Frankly, that is nobody's business but her and her husband. As long as these other people she's hanging out with don't wield any kind of influence over her, and she isn't sharing sensitive information or State secrets with them, it doesn't matter. If there is cause for concern for such things, then bring these people in for questioning and get to the bottom of it one way or the other.
More such leaders are needed for the well-being of Europe.
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I agreed that this was poor judgment on her part but the most damaging thing on the international stage was to finland's reputation. Since she represents the country it was not a good look and this went vira all over the internet.
I think this whole thing is a farce. PM Marin isn't the first nor the last sitting PM to party and goof around, she is just unfortunate to live her adulthood in the era where everything must be filmed on the social media. For me it doesn't matter what party she represents, I'm not a fan of Kokoomus for example but I still thought Stubb got way too much crap for wearing shorts back in the day. Although I have to admit I find it funny that Finns are having a stroke over Marin partying while the rest of the world, including the conservatives from Poland, think she's just having fun, big deal. :D
We seem to have it pretty good here when "PM got drunk" is the big headline :P
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HQ cameraphones and socialmedia has been around over 10 year now... yet no other PM has been so idiot to let film their coke partys đ€Ł
Also, why she had to pose to camera? Acting like a 15 year old tiktok teen does not make her good PM.
@@silmupelaa6349 Yes they have if by coke party you mean getting drunk
I didn't know Finns could party. I just thought they sweated out their joy and happiness in the sauna
I party in the sauna.
@@daheikkinen you are ultimate party masters then.
She went to take the test dayssss after partying, ofc it doesn't show anything even if she did use.
Why are there no videos on CZcams regarding "Finns opinion on sanna Marin". And a lot of her videos on CZcams have comments disabled.
There are no public opinions/ street interviews about her. I am just surprised.
We have videos of public opinion of our dear PM Narendra Modi in India there are thousands of videos! Same with US presidents over the years (people go out on the streets and ask people on their opinion about their president),
There are such opinion surveys for Putin also in Russia! Why doesn't she have one?
I tried to find 1 video and this is the closest I could get. Are they shutting those videos by force/not allowing the world see?
No one has done street interview videos about her for CZcams. There are public surveys that mentioned on the news, such as: yle.fi/a/3-12681811
After all she is a human being, she has every right to have friends and enjoy with them. Only she shouldn't do it during her office hours.
EXACTLY
Its so annoying seeing 1000 people write "shes a human too!! She can enjoy life!!"
They havent even looked into the case but immediately jump to defend her!!
I got a small feeling that its because she is a woman and not old and wrinkly yet
She is not a serious person if she parties like this but modern politicians donât need to be. Finland is a small country and is under the rule of Brussels. So all state decisions come from the outside and she just needs to make sure she implements them correctly. This is her job: not to create but to follow. She doesnât need to be fresh 24/7 for that purpose. We live in the age of state degradation and today you can hardly see politicians like Roosevelt or Jacques Chirac. In the future, there shall be no states as transnational corporations will rule. Discreditation of the state representative is a step forward to vanish the statehood and Finland is quiet succeeding with it. Covid and other points you have mentioned are irrelevant. Again the instructions were from Brussels for all member states. Countries had some freedom to move those frames but not to change substantially.
I liked Sanna Marin before, now I am not so sure anymore. I think she is partying a bit too much. It is a bit weird for me, since I am also a mom of 2 young children, that a mother parties that hard and gets drunk. For me, this is not normal. And also, she is the PM, I kinda feel ashamed of her actions here and how often she parties. If she has free time, yes, basically she can do whatever she wants, but then she has to be careful, which she isn't and also posts her private life in social media (I know, this video leaked, so not her choice, but the other pics in her Insta is her choice). A PM who drinks alcohol, apparently regulary and she seems she can't always perform her duties...uff. I just wonder what happens next.
@Nerian Some yes, but not 4 days out of 9 when she was back on work. You cannot be drunk in duty ffs. Also she cant party with some random junkies, it's national threath to our country.
And last but not least, she has done nothing good to our country. Juts pushing globalist green agenda, nothing common people...
more like the reaction of finnish media makes me ashamed
@@minavain9744 Media everywhere are just trash
It was honourable of her to apologize even though, she shouldnât have. âI am sorry for acting like a normal person outside my job!â
Wtf
Getting drunk, drugged and maybe even cheating on your husband while hes home taking care of your child is 100% something to apologize for
There was nothing "normal" about what she did. It's shocking and disturbing.
I've partied like that several times in Finland.
She was also caught clubbing when she had been exposed to covid . Boris Johnson had to resign for less . If a man acted as Sanna Marin did , he would definitely be asked to resign . Finnish women are posting tweets in support of Sanna Marin . I doubt very much if that would be the case if Sanna Marin was a man . There is definitely a double standard at play here .