Classic Cars And The Environment- What The Greenies And Corporates Don't Want You To Know
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- čas přidán 29. 10. 2023
- With everything in the world as upside down and backwards as it currently is, the notion that a 25-plus year old vehicle can be more sustainable and environmentally friendly than a brand new hybrid or EV really shouldn't come as much of a surprise. that's exactly what we are proposing here. Are we insane or is there a method to our madness.
Let us know in the comments.
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I miss when this channel only focused on cars.
I miss when things were simpler and more straightforward and we could just screw around with cars and not deal with anything else.
If you ever hope to see a return to those days, or even want to be able to enjoy cars in the future, these are conversations that need to be had, now.
Stuff like this needs to be said and spread to prevent another cash for clunkers debacle. Just wait 10 years and half the people that can vote will have not even remembered it was a thing. That program caused immeasurable damage to both the classic car market and environment alike, and they ran on the premise of it being green and helping get 'dirty' cars off the road.
@@SteinerridesThey bleached out a lot of salvage yards, cars and a ton of parts. Mine survived.
If your feelings get hurt you could always get a cry towel.
@@UncleTonysGarage Spot on
As an automotive engineer this man is correct. There has been so many times I wanted to quite my job knowing what truly is “green” and isn’t. Doing durability test only to 150k miles, thermal plastics when it should be metal, stupid GPF sensor and complicated EGR’s. Many other engineers agree to what this man is spitting and a good portion have lost our enthusiasm into the industry as it trends to EV’s at least for my group and I work on EV’s and hybrids. Meanwhile I still drive 3 Honda/acura products that are 25+ years old. 3 pedals, not too advanced you couldn’t work on yourself, good fuel mileage, small, reliable and the odometer proves it
The Elites in charge want to do away with "personal travel."
The first time I saw a plastic intake manifold, my brain exploded a little. Then I saw plastic sway bar endlinks. A couple months ago, I learned about plastic OIL PANS, and I couldn't speak for about an hour in shock. It's all disposable, throw it away,, buy a new one, and finance it for 84 months because the price is more than some people paid for a home.
Right on. I have a 25 year old Honda and 37 year old Nissan Hardbody. I don't want new cars even though they are nice. I'm sad to see many of these in junkyards that could have been fixed.
I'm actually disappointed that my Civic is losing its transmission input bearing at only 270,000 miles. Most Japanese manuals never go bad for me. My truck has 425,000 on the 5 speed.
But I am amazed to drive by shops and see so many late models with big problems. Their transmission repair costs more than my whole car.
@@ateamfan42I just saw that a new grand Cherokee that costs OVER 100,000 dollars has PLASTIC coolant elbows on the twin turbo engine. What could go wrong after Warranty is over? What an insult to the six figure customer! I guess they don't care.
@@jeanclaude7018 Correct, they do not care at all about building a robust car. If they can save even a few cents, and still last through the warranty period, that means significant savings over millions of units.
You’re right Tony! What’s really nuts is that HVAC, appliances, and other manufacturing of durable goods are designing products to last 5-7 years for appliances and 10-12 years for HVAC-even many car manufacturers are creating cars that are throwaway after ten years or sooner. Why isn’t anyone talking about this nonsense. Can you imagine every appliance in every home and business being replaced every five years-this is nuts from an environmental perspective, but no one I know about is talking about any of these ridiculous happenings. Love your channel Tony! ❤️🔧✌🏻
It is all about money and greed. I have in my garage a freezer that is 40 years old and works like a champ. My refrigerator in the kitchen is 6years old and already have been repair once.
@@giankperez6377 I get 3 years out of a TV, doesn't matter if I use it or not. The only thing I use them for is a computer monitor.
planned obsolescence. Pretty sure it's been around as long as people have been buying stuff from other people.
@@giankperez6377The 40 year old frig uses Freon no longer available, the new one uses R134, it doesn't work as good as the Ozone depleting gas.
I just had to replace my water heater. It was less than 5 years old….
When I started working as an automotive technician, almost everything was rebuildable, saving energy and materials, and you didn't throw it away. Thanks for the video, Tony.
You and Gretta are NOT on the same team. Gretta and I are *definitely* not on the same team. These people don't want to "save the planet" They want you living in ze pod and eating ze bugs. They hate you (and me) and the ONLY reason our ultimate demise is not immediately on the table is that they need laborers to make those private planes they fly around in and plan on flying around in for a long time to come and to raise their food..
If they ever figure out the robot revolution and AI to keep making stuff for them, we'll be pushing up daisies.
Reduce, reuse and recycle. That was what was pushed as environmentally friendly not that long ago. Reuse and recycle are part of the classic car lifestyle. Rebuilt parts, core exchanges. Restoring cars that have been off the road for years and giving them new life is reuse. Keep it up Uncle TonY!
yeah what happened to wax paper and tin packaging? wood boxes? glass bottles (milk bottles!)
Yep. Each old car thats brought back to driving condition is one less new car that is created( The most polluting thing to do). And now, Restoring or bringing an old car back to a driver level condition is now close to what a brand new car costs. I can find tons of classics that could be brought back to full usability for as much as a mid priced family car of 2023 or the price of these Trucks and SUV's people just buy like hotcakes.
@@joshuakhaos4451Problem is most consumers today would complain that their restored old car doesn’t have Apple CarPlay or Bluetooth or airbags or lane keep assist or crumple zones or sound deadening or “good” fuel economy and requires actual maintenance and paying attention to it to keep it running properly. We’ve brainwashed the average person into demanding safety and convenience and comfort without compromise and even taught them to think anything less is irresponsible to even consider. Classic cars do take some getting used to, and you have to be willing to learn how to live with them. It’s doable, I’ve done it, both my cars are older than I am. But some societal shifts are necessary for people to want to try. Given how expensive modern cars are becoming though, at least new car sales are slowing and older cars are getting more valuable across the board, which makes them worth fixing and learning to maintain.
That was a push by big corporations to make it seem like pollution is done by the individual. The actual truth is that the government and corporations pollute so much that there is no way any individual person could do anything about it.
@@joshuakhaos4451 if you can do all the work like I can, and don't need to take them to shops to get things done, you can rebuild an old car for WAY less than a new one. I built my 68 LeMans into a street strip ride for dirt cheap, other than the engine that is boost ready and can easily handle 2000hp, the rest of it is around $4500. (9" rear, cage, suspension parts, EFI fuel system, wheels and tires) If I wanted to paint it, add another $1200 or so for materials. The 65 GTO cost me $15k to take from a severely rusted rolling shell to a daily driver with decent paint and a 550hp 455 with EFI. The TKO600 I have for it will bump up the cost a bit, but it will still be well under $20k.
For the cost of a new 1500 GMC with no options, just a 5.3 and a manual transmission, I can build probably four muscle cars. I looked into a truck like that last year, and I 'noped' right out of the dealership. I am not paying $60k for a standard cab 2wd with nothing in it.
My mother was a stay-at-home mother when I was young. Then, when I was about 10, my mother got a job. She got a job where she knew 3 different women from the neighborhood who worked there. My mother, driving her 10 year old 1968 station wagon was eliminating 3 other cars from the road by carpooling. In return, she got gas money from them.
Most people would do VASTLY better for "saving the environment" by carpooling with a gas car vs driving alone in an electric car. When you're sitting in traffic wanting to tear your hair out, you get to converse with friends.
The evidiots are just goofballs.
And we would further reduce pollution from cars if we built our Suburbs to be far more people centered than car centered. Theres no reason that we cant have walkable towns/neighborhoods and still have our cars. And we wouldnt have to drastically alter suburbs as we know them to make them better and easier to live in without a car.
And making all our products so cheap they break after a few years or after the warranty isnt helping the pollution issue either. as well as housing developers only building cheap, but massive luxury MCMansions as opposed to smaller homes that many many families happily raised the Boomers in. Those big homes are also massive wastes of energy just thanks to their size.
Or maybe no one wants to be stuck in gridlock with these whackos.
The EVs I respect are the ones people build in their garages out of classic cars and salvaged EV parts. I’d rather the car keep an ICE drivetrain personally, but at the end of the day, they’re still keeping an old car on the road and reusing existing salvaged parts instead of throwing stuff away. They’ve created actual demand for salvaged batteries as well, preventing a lot of electronic waste, which is great. Reduce Reuse Repair and Rebuild. ‘Tis the way of the classic car mechanic.
Did you deliberately fail to add ev carpooling as an option ?
This needs to be said. Great job UT!
I agreed with your statement immediately. When I was young, we were taught to reduce, reuse and recycle. Now you can’t be environmentally friendly, unless you throw everything away and buy new. It’s just the latest chapter in “the story of stuff”.
I discussed this in 1991 at my Civil Engineering courses, and at 2007 on Ford Six. The ultimate economy vehicle is a Ford F100 or numerically greater. 25 tons of ore to make one 15 mpg vehicle, or 250 tons of seventeen rare earths and the original 25 tons of ore to make a vehicle that sources it's fuel from another source. Resource consumption for every new car is totally going up.
Yea, it’s a shame they can’t be recycled. Oh wait, they can be just about forever.
@@hugegamer5988The bullshit is six feet deep and starts with the theft without appropriate redress of precious materials. The Big Lie mentality starts with Adam Savages Tested, and continues with slave Labor winning Cobolt from a fully in Africa. People need to have a Discussion without introducing more Real Bull Sh!+.
Over my 318 4x4 Jeep, my Toyota burns 10% of the gas and is similar in cost to purchase. I don't miss putting $40 in to go to the post office and back.
@@maxwebster7572 a one ton 4x4 Dodge pickup gets the same mileage as the yoda
ford is not good especially at 15 mpg. my chevy gets 20 with a carburetor
I have 4 vehicles and the newest is a 1999, I’ll run my old stuff till I die. God willing my 7.3 powerstroke will outlive me and my kids can enjoy the beautiful noise too 👍
👍🏻 heck yeah. I still have my 1997 F-350 with a 7.3 Powerstroke.
Newest I've ever had was a 94, now I drive an 89
My 7.3 powerstroke just hit 1.5 million km, yes it will outlive EVERYTHING around you!
7.3 is the best v8 diesel. Of course it comes no were even close to the 5.9 12v cummins i6 but im sure y'all already knew that. Y'all should stock up ford bodies, my biggest fear is obviously not my cummins breaking down , but some yuppie hitting me and denting or ruining my ram body. That's y i been stock piling 2nd gen rams , gas and diesel 😂
A truck driver acquaintance told me that a trend in the Semi world is to rebuild old tractors frame-up resto style and put them back on the road and just not drive into California. To consider that it is financially more sound of an idea to completely rebuild a vehicle vs. Buy new (&deal with all the regs) shows the Cuba Theory in it's beginning stages. This is both a boon to us hotrodders and restorers and preservationists as well as a milestone moment. When the tipping point of cost of ownership makes rebuilding an old vehicle a better financial idea.
Honestly, Restoring a classic now and using it for daily living would be almost the same cost as buying a new mid trim truck or SUV. If not the top trim. And people fall all over themselves to buy 60-100k SUV's and trucks. Finding a nice 50s or 60s sedan that needs 20-30k in a restoration to be brand new isnt as dumb of a move as it was 15 years ago. Plus you could keep that car going for far longer than a new car.
Seen this alot in the semi department.
The big benefit of keeping the old trucks running is less emissions and easier to work on.
Some of these new trucks are build like a Chinese toy car.
The old stuff used more steel and had it setup that the owner could maintain it if needed.
The biggest issue is parts and quality.
Buy a pre-2007 class 8 tractor from a retiring trucker who has maintenance records. Have a professional diesel mechanic inspect it first even if you plan to rebuild it - so you don't throw money at it. You can get another million reliable miles from a decent old semi. You might have to spend more than $35,000 in repairs, but it will cost a fraction of a new truck. You can do almost all the repairs yourself, but an experienced mechanic can do the work in a few weeks, it might take others a year. It's not that different from rebuilding a 1980s John Deere tractor. DEF filters were 2007 and later.
Older trucks are simpler, more reliable, and don't require electronic logs.
Same with petroleum refineries, EPA regs are so bad a new refinery will never be built, the old ones are patched and repaired to the point of being unsafe IMO, I worked plant shut downs for several years.
finally someone is speaking some truth,i tried to tell my neighbor that 1960 f100 could fast idle in the driveway for 10 years and still not put out the pollution that was created when his 2022 nissan leaf was manufactured. hey so if i work on vintage bicycles that does mean i am really on eco friendly goody goody list?. good to hear the vintage car folks are actually doing the right thing.thanx uncle tony for keeping it real.
You made me spit out my coffee I was laughing so hard! And your so right! Pls someone do the math on this! I love to see the numbers.
glad i could make some laughter happen@@whaddayawant2197
You're absolutely right Tony. One of my past employments I was a production engineer of which I designed, re-designed many components. So the one thing you didn't mention is the packaging. Each component will have to be packaged to get the its next function and back. Much much more the anyone usually thinks of. Keep on smiling.
It's never been about the environment, it's about the economy!
Its about Greed
It's about greed. Yes the economy is a giant part of it, but really it stems down to greed overall.
If it was just the economy, then we would all win or the majority of us.
Not greed.
Control.
@@scotcoon1186 Both!
It's about control.
Nicely said. That's only the surface being scratched. I worked in plastics for years. The amount of energy used to make the mold for that cap is crazy. The size and amount of metal used is incredible.
Its like that in everything, people dont see the massive amounts of resources used to make stuff, and more important, the recycling of stuff.
I was always told plastics take millions of years to break down in landfills, but the reality is brand new plastics start degrading instantly and crumble to micro plastic dust in only a year or two. I even had a new pair of shoes still in the box but after two years the soles are crumbling apart and actually fell off in pieces when I tried to lift one out of the box.
Absolutely. Along with the cost just to het some mold ready to start manufacturing is insane.
I worked in SC at a plant that injection molded plastic parts. Jetski hulls, hoods for tractors from lawn mowers to big John Deers. The molds were changed out with hoists, super heavy. I knew a die maker from South Africa that would spend nearly a week refurbishing a mold.
@@hugegamer5988 I bought a nice (used) pair of leather boots. The soles looked fine at the sale, the leather was in great condition but needed cleaning, the inside of the boot is in great condition. Very lightly used.. The sole was made out of some sort of "oil proof foam" (best I can describe it), and its totally disintegrating. I cleaned and conditioned the leather. The boots look superb, apart from the deteriorating sole. I plan to get them repaired soon, with a more durable sole.
I work in a semiconductor facility that supplies microchips to a lot of car manufacturers and just this alone (for something as small as your speedometer screen) emits a insane amount of pollution into our air so yeah your 100% on the money Tony!
And replacing refrigerators and washing machines every few years doesnt help either. They'd be better in the long run if they could last 10-40 years. And sell the repair parts or offer upgrades for the older products years down the road when they are less efficiet than the new models.
Here's what I think about the EPA problem. They complain about our (USA) carbon footprint. Then some agency brags about how our carbon footprint is so much smaller than, say, China's carbon footprint. The fact is that we ship all our scrap metal to foreign countries. Huge footprint in shipping alone. They then smelt it and either make (inferior) parts for us, or ship it back to us in it's raw from. Side note: I watched a video about some construction Re-bar that had been shipped to US from China that when hit with a hammer, it just broke. It's not supposed to do that. We pay top dollar for this junk and they make huge profits off of it. Our skies are clear, but at what cost? The same amount of pollutants go into the air if not more because of a lack of stricter regulations abroad. You don't see people/idiots blocking traffic, protesting and holding signs that say "Just Stop Steel". OK, end of rant. JMO.
its not a rant its truth what you said, i think a lot of us are becoming aware of all the issues going on. we just have to keep on preaching
Rant on brother, rant on!
Pest = EPA
The most based car channel I’ve ever come across. Rock on brother
Uncle Tony is as Based as they come
The first recyclers were hot rodders in the 40s
Those were the OG environmentalist!!!
Recycling goes back a very, very long time. Anything with value will get recycled.
I always felt like the auto salvage yards were on the front line of “recycling”. I’ve been to many just trying to keep my older vehicles going.
I totally get your point UC.
Same here. It just sucks that when it comes to a popular car (like a mustang) you've got to be checking in almost daily for when one comes in so you can pounce on it for the parts.
@grumpy Been there. You've either got to work there yourself, have good friends there, or grease alot of palms.
@@sometimesleela5947 For the most part I've been able to get everything I've set out to get. It's just recently I saw a 04 base with a duel exhaust setup and thought it would be cool to get but when I went under to get it someone already got the main part that attaches the pipes to the manifolds. I'm just waiting for a silver one to come in to snag the bumper cover for now.
An old program that TLC used to air (when it actually was The Learning Channel), had an installment that mentioned your comment almost verbatim. The Secret Life of Machines host, Tim Hunkin said it at the end of the "Secret Life of the Automobile" episode. So you and Tony are in good company.
I have been telling people this for years! My daily driver is a 1965 Buick Skylark. It's one of those basic GM A body classic cars that were around from 1964 to 1974 with just sheet metal changes. I have made some brake and drive train updates but it's still daily usable. I have used your same argument that the longer I keep the car, the smaller it's carbon footprint becomes versus a newer car made out of mostly plastic.
You've been completely wrong for years.
Lol. My 78 tbird got 10-14mpg while my 2016 f-150 gets 16-24mpg. After about 60k miles it’s better to recycle the old car and replace it with new in terms of CO2/mile. Not only that but at gas prices these days 100k miles is going to cost about 40k for the tbird and 25k for the f-150. By 200k miles you could have had a free modern base model one ton new truck.
@@hugegamer5988 Yeah, but you'll spend more money on a car payment than you'd spend on gas in the classic and add another rotting piece of metal, plastic and fluids to a field somewhere. Holley makes a new computerized carb kit that will give you the best gas mileage you'll ever see out of a classic.
@@jxke lol used cars exist. I bought my 2016 in 2019 for cash. You can also get stupid rate financing on classics as well.
@@hugegamer5988 newer cars are disposable junk. Uncle Tony’s Garage does a good job explaining it.
I find myself tuning into these kinds of videos on Uncle Tony's. Keep up good work! I do not like this EV bubble.
I played roblox games you made before(these car games with crash physics...especially union cars with suspension chassis).....and I can confirm...me too,I like classic cars more because of easier repairs and simple style. What you can do is unfortunately much more limited with these new cars nowadays...(note: I'm surprised when I saw you in comment section with that plymouth voyager profil photo ,I didn't know you too, you watch that channel...I'm the guy who asked question about how to improuve the roblox game I made long time ago: that game called Wild Cars)
I had to go start up the 454 in my Trans Am (out of a 1986 truck) just to warm up the world temp a little bit more!!
EV bubble ?
@@waynefergusson9987 This " EV bubble " isn't going to burst anytime soon, not at all actually, because in 10 years or less there won't be a single auto maker building gasoline powered cars as Toyota is spending Billions on battery technology, EV's will be the only cars for sale on the new car dealer showroom floor and there willbe a push to get ICE cars off the road starting with banning them from the cities.
I thought Tony was attempting to break down the polarisation and find some common ground. Ev bubble?
Unc hits the nail on the head yet again! I refuse to obey, I'm driving nothing but older stuff the rest of my days. I doubt that the folks that could really benefit from this knowledge are open to learning it, but I'm sharing this series over to FB with hope. I challenge all UTG viewers to do the same.
I really like my 2012 Nissan Frontier, but my wife's 2004 Buick LeSabre is a real gem that just goes and goes. The least valuable car in our small collection is a 1998 LeSabre, that was given to me for Free! It just refuses to die. It was owned by a 91 year old man at church. When he died, his son parked it at the Church, hoping that someone would want it. Despite only having 92K miles, no one was the least bit interested in it, so it sat for a very long time. I asked for a test-drive and he gave the car to me for nothing. I have put a little money into this car, but I will never part with it. It always starts, it runs smooth and efficient, and I love the couch-like ride that this car gives. This era of car just seems right to me, as It was produced when I was 35 years old. If you really want to save the planet, get a good used car and maintain it for perpetuity. Besides 'Mother Earth', think of the money that you will save!
@@duranbailiff5337yes, we run a pair of eight year old Suzuki Alto three cylinder small cc cars that are lightweight and reliable, we are the odd ones out in our neighbourhood
Good for you, I made the decision to start buying older and older cars as much as possible a while back. Just not going to spend the big $$$$$ for the stuff I can't work on, doesn't make sense.
your right most people are in the( matrix world). from guns to cars when are people gonna wake up
Amen! My oldest vehicle is an '80 Mirada and my newest is an '02 Durango, and I don't plan to buy anything newer for some time to come.
Every part on that power steering cap, not only do the parts have to be put together, each part has to be made, each part has raw materials that have to made into each part, each raw material has to be mined or extracted. It goes on and on and on. Also with each step it has to be transported by truck, etc. the truck has to be loaded by a machine...... You can go cross-eyed and insane trying to diagram the entire supply chain.
I have had the same thoughts you presented. Also, new cars have lots of chips ( semiconductors). I worked as engineer for Semicondutor FAB making micro controllers. Let me say, the chemicals and polutants are very significant, i know, i also worked in the environmental compliance dept. You are right about this, more than you may know. One minor point though. Dont count the carbon footprint of employees going to work, that would happen anyway. But overall, i beleive you are correct, and we are being green by keeping older cars running. Common sence.
Amen Uncle T! U said it sir. Common sense is getting tougher to find these days. Be carful u tube silences thing they don't want heard.
Economize....
My depression era grandma could do that.
Did you know you can get 10 cups of tea from 1 teabag?
Yep. 😂
Boy i miss her,but she doesnt need to see what happened to the place if she came back.
They were recycling way before it was a thing.
Another way for thinking about “Carbon Footprint” is to consider an individual components “Embodied Energy”. A difficult concept for people to wrap there heads around. Well Done Uncle Tony for taking the time to explain this.
You're darn right Tony ! The average age of my cars is just over 30 years. Talking about efficient usage of the resources needed to build them. Yeah.
We have the same problem with modern appliances. When I was growing up in the 60's a fridge could last for twenty years. Now the energy efficient models loaded with electronics might get you eight years at the most. It is not uncommon for them to die in the first few years. Also gotta love the environmentally friendly washing machines that allegedly conserve resources. I have heard stories of needing to do multiple washings to get clothes clean. That sure saves energy and water.
I’ll rebuild my 2002 vintage Whirlpool washer and dryer. I will never get rid of them. The only problem I have had, is the door switch quit on the washer. It’s not a problem anymore. Over 20 years of reliable usage.
Yeah those 90s washers with that twirly thing that thrashed the heck out of the clothes really got them clean! My new machines never get the clothes clean
The fridge in my garage was built about 1960. Never done more than a lightbulb to it and it works perfectly. In the house however it seems hard to keep any appliances working trouble free even for 2 years. Crazy
Just like the low flow toilets, need to flush twice and end up using more water than the old school terlets.
It'd be smart to start an appliance brand and make the product reliable and rebuildable. You could definitely market it as super efficient and green due to them being built solid and capable of being used for several decades like the fridges of old. They may not be exactly cheap, but that would be the catch. For the price of a mid level modern fridge( So like 1000 dollars), you may be buying a more basic fridge. But that fridge will outlast that cheap modern fridge by a few decades.
Think of 90s era Toyota level reliability, but with fridges built with todays efficiency standards. And you could buy and repair parts of them if they broke.
Gotdammit man, you are blowing my mind. Whoever thinks about all this kind of stuff, we've been conditioned not to. But you are very right. Now I'm scared. This is all a monster that is already too big to be stopped. Common sense doesn't matter anymore, they are winning.
even though he has just touched on this, its much bigger. i think you are finally becoming aware, they dont like you to be a thinker ,start passing your knowledge on to others so maybe they will start thinking for themselves as well. it has to start somewhere you no
@@user-te3pn4pb4u Right on bro.
But but what about the coal powered EVs. So good for the environment.
I have a friend who bought a Tesla to be environmentally friendly. Every time I see him I ask him how his coal powered car is doing. Drives him crazy because it is true.
@@JamesSterling Teslas and other EVs can be powered by wind or solar. Or natural gas. Or nuclear.
@@clembob8004 I understand, but the electricity generation from my friend's power company comes from coal, therefore his coal powered Tesla. Over 60% of the electricity in the U.S. comes from fossil fuels, only 13% from wind or solar. The rest is nuclear, geothermal, or hydroelectric.
@@JamesSterling True, vehicles are using fossil fuels in one way or another. But, if I were the Tesla owner, I would get solar panels on my roof and use that electricity to charge the Tesla as much as possible.
Uncle Tony and people like him are becoming rarer and rarer. I find myself watching and trying to learn, some things more than others but learning non-the-less. I really do appreciate this MAN and people like him. I just wish I knew if there were people like him near me in Pueblo, CO. He has a solid grip on reality. Reality...has became a very valuable commodity!
I got bit by a dog while out running in Pueblo Colorado in 1983.
That's the year I left high school. where were ya at and doing in this town? just visiting I hope :)
@@ripvanrevs
Yeah...that's due to education. There is no data that supports this position.
@@ripvanrevs
Bet you were out running near dog patch. Lol. Old tough part of the city.
Some great points Tony and the deeper thinkers among us that are older car owners have known this for a long time. The problem is that the people on the other side of the story have been programmed and conditioned to press on with a narrative that they haven't given a lot of actual thought to. On top of that they don't listen and will be quick to dismiss any sensible counter points we make that go against their bullshit. Instead they prefer to gaslight the hell out of you to create as much confusion as possible.
Obey Consume
Tony is a fan of Rowdy Roddy
"This one, real fn ugly"
0:25 How does that sound insane? Keeping an old car on the road is better than building a new car in many aspects and most of the time.
So, I tried to explain EXACTLY this to someone a long while back. They were being all high and mighty as they were buying a brand new, Tesla Model 3, fully loaded. This girl was so excited to no longer have to buy gas, she can get over-the-air updates for the software and blah, blah, blah clean driving, blah, blah, blah.... I explained to her, in detail, how my car is now technically more environmentally friendly since I am basically recycling and reusing, I did not buy new. The car, in its day required a lot of work and material to make it, but that was 3 decades ago and I do not have lithium and other rare/expensive/environmentally catastrophic materials in a giant, heavy battery to replace every so often that has (currently) no real good way of dealing with. And while my car does have an ECU and did have an air bag module, that is pretty much it for computers in my car, and modern cars can do almost nothing without some kind of computer on a super sensitive to dirty power CAN bus system. Just the energy that goes into modern car computers is enough to boggle the mind of the poor consumer that thinks everything is and should be disposable. It hurts my brain just thinking of the amount of wasted energy and resources that goes into making modern cars, be them electric or internal combustion.
Re 12:47 the parts always have to change:
Parts Counter guy here.. My dad operated a gas station since 1953, repairing cars..until he opened up an auto parts store in 1966. I was 8 years old then and grew up and I got old in the place. We're still open. I remember people coming to the counter needing tuneup for their GM V-8's. Delco D106ps points, D204 condenser, D409 rotor, D308 distributor cap and 45 or (later) R45ts spark plugs. All the parts were the same. S-5, S-6 bearings, 227 front brake shoes, 228 rears, D-52 front disc pads. Suspension bushings, engine, trans seals, CT-22 throwout bearing,..mass produced, long model run...then they finger fk'd it.
This country is turning into Cuba anyways. The average age of a car is increasing every year. Most people have a old car now.
Funny or tragic comment….many people is dying to come here not 3rd word countries as you believe and vehicles are old because the salaries are low or you lack of business acumen, depending were you see it.
I think they'll continue that trend, especially since new car and truck prices are going to surpass the price of a house. I say that because manufacturers are going to have to once again pass off the cost of these UAW wage raises to the end consumer.
@@Ripped-Yoda people from 3rd world countries want to come here because they still believe in the American dream. The average life of an American is probably worse off and less happy than someone in a developing country. This country and every business here is controlled by crazy people.
@@dougfisher1813 The CEO’s are paid too much!!
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An Old statistic- The manufacturing of a car (average) consumes 5X more petroleum products that the car consumes in its usable lifetime
I believe it. Just think about all the energy needed from digging the ore out of the ground to the car rolling off the assembly line.
If you have a car that gets 30 mpg, it will cost 20k of gas to drive it 200k miles. Hard to find a car now for under 20k.
Planned obsolescence has been around since the 50's and is designed to keep the consumers coming back for more. Model cycles have become ever shorter meaning more energy and emissions going into new iterations. All planned, all about making money, all driving emissions. Thanks for making these videos and getting the message out there Tony!
So well said, this is the elephant in the room in terms of the environment and no one’s talking about it. Thanks for setting it out so clearly and concisely👍
THANK YOU! Please continue to help educate those who have become victims of all the misinformation.
The victims of this misinformation are really victims of themselves.
They are people that don't want to think (it hurts their heads) they want all the answers handed to them on a silver plate.
People out there need to grow a brain and think. That is where the answers lay.
Some people do not listen. They live in their bubble of no valid information because they are uninformed and prefer to stay that way. They are not listening to Tony either.
@@gvxclassicsReminds me of the face diaper wearing dummies that stood in line to get the political liquid pumped into their body.
From Uncle to Sage Tony. Great conversation, we as tinkers are reducing waste, enjoying freedom and creating/recreating dreams.
Well said! I agree with you. Nobody is talking about it, the ability to fix and restore things is always better than buy new cars/ stuff every 3 years.
The most ecologically sound thing to do is to use what's already made, rather than discard it and make something new. That's why the "3 R's of waste management" stand for "Reduce - Reuse - Recycle." Note that "recycle" is last - it's more important to use less and to reuse what you already have, as recycling isn't a clean process. So using that old car again is actually cleaner than junking it, even if every part of it was recyclable - which it isn't.
I do that to houses. I have saved at least a dozen houses that everybody else said should have been torn down.
Unveiling the true nature of the modern world of vehicles. Great stuff as always tony, back to basics man that's always the best policy.
I see EV sales dropping, ford f150 lightening pulled funding. GM / Honda break partnership on EV.
I know an engineer that worked on the Ford EV truck project here in Detroit. His comment to me is that they can't build a truck that can pull a boat, haul lumber and do pickup truck things and drive 300 miles. They won't make 60-80 miles one way with the AC off on a single charge. To build a larger battery and all of that requires more engineering and a stronger chassis and basically a clean sheet design. And then it gets too heavy.
There's a reason i drive a 23 year old Subaru. It was built back when people had pride in their work. It's still running like new and asks for nothing other than maintenance.
Very well thought out. Agree 100%. I have been saying for years that automotive companies build cars not to last. Take something as simple as a wheel bearing. Old wheel bearings floated in oil or were greasable, while today they are sealed units, and any part that moves has a wear characteristics to it, and if there is no way to oil the bearings it will fail. Today's society want the next new gadget. Companies have taught us that new is better and old is no good. It's in the thought process of how people look at items. New is better old is junk...... or is it?
I totally agree. I have been trying to tell people this for awhile. Thank you for saying it on your platform.
Thank you for this video Uncle Tony! This has needed to be said. Too bad those who REALLY need to hear it (probably) don't watch car channels.
Hey Tony, I’m new to your channel. Not a Mopar guy, I used to read your articles in HPP magazine. Much of your information can be applied to any brand. I’m a fan of common sense and logic!
I enjoy how you talk about the heart behind turning wrenches. I'm a believer that working on our own vehicles helps us to stay practical, grounded, and grateful. Thank you for your channel.
Propane done correctly and safely might help, Tony
Thanks for the likes guys keep them coming and maybe we'll stop Tony blowing himself up
I've actually got a slant six with double carbs running on Propane. With my HEI it barley has emissions and I could even smack a cat on it
@@gorkzop Yea mate here in Australia you can put any motor in any thing as long as it runs propane only , but lousy power and if not done right you bolt on problems but great emissions
@@daryllynhutchins8459 my power output isn't bad at all. Moat important thing is to change the ignition curve to propane
We love you Uncle Tony! I thank God that He put energetic and intelligent people in our midst who think deeply and are able to articulate the Truth. Please keep up the great work and maintain the stellar videos coming down the pipeline! Amen. 🙏
Very true. I’m in automotive manufacturing engineering since 2004 building body shop welding equipment.
One more thing we should not forget is how much energy is used and CO2 and waste generated when new line/ production plant is build and commissioned.
Awesome video Uncle Tony! Not many people can look at that power steering cap and see the blueprints, from the makers of the injection molds to the maker of the plastic pellets, iron foundry for the springs to the heat stamp transfer that put the words on it! Really great explanation! Looking forward to the rest of this series!👍
uncle tony---hats off---my old toys just keep on tickin--my 66 and 68 -will run for another 50 years---lotta smiles per miles--built to last
Great concept: Recycle! Reuse!And lastly, Reduce. Use the big assed beats when you want to "Feel The Thrill", but... ride a bicycle (electric if you will) or walk, or whatever. Have fun!
"Obey" and "Consume"? "They Live" Deep film Reference, UTG? Love It!
Tony - this is why I drive my 98 Cherokee. I believe it is one of the best combinations of modern technology and old school cheap serviceability.
The 4.0L engine in that Jeep is also a great example of a manufacturer running it till it dies. It shares the same parts as a 64 Rambler inline 6. Decades of parts interchangeability.
I’m sick of getting 11 to 13 miles per gallon!! I hate the 4.0!!
I might get .2 more miles per gallon if I drive like a granny!
@@Zach-sg5uu idk how youre driving but I regularly get 20mpg with stock size tires and driving normally
@@Rmehki Maybe Jeep Cherokee’s get much better miles per gallon than the Jeep grand Cherokee’s with the 4.0 engine.
Maybe it has to be in better condition or you’re just lucky?
@@Zach-sg5uu I keep mine very well maintained. Almost all the sensors have been replaced. Cap / rotor / plugs / wires / air filter once a year or every 25k miles.
Ya.....old iron rules! 😎 🎉
Twin-carb'd big block gasser with straight pipes all the way back!
I'm doing my part environmentally.
I don't gas-up on Ozone Action days.
*The Man knows his shit!*
And all I can say is ...AMEN BROTHER!
You are 100% right Tony, I have been a draftsman/designer for over 30 years, and you are telling the absolute truth. I now work in drawing HVAC systems for buildings, it seems like Every building has a totally uniquely designed heating/cooling system for it! Give me a break, there HAS to be a way to standardize the systems to reduce design costs, but it seems the architects are not interested, they get paid by the hour, so why not take longer, and make it more complex and one of a kind. It seems bogus to me, but that seems to be the way of the world. Granted it may not be the architects exactly, but I think you get the general idea. Simplify to cut costs, cookie cutter design! Plus that way the parts are not 100% unique for each building.
UTG 100% on point once again...... I'm 58 years old and me and my friends all talk about this every day. ..... I'm with you and daily drive a OBS 1998 GM TAHOE 2dr and it makes me smile every
mile , has never left me stranded, most reliable vehicle I've owned for decades and over a quarter of a million miles....... The truck before this Tahoe was a 98 GMC OBS K1500 that I had to park with over a half a million miles due to RUST......!!!! We're with you UTG !!!! TRUTH!!!!
Just subscribed. I already own an antique…a 1993 MB Model 300TE wagon. It has 164,000 on it. Thanks to having a great mechanic, I use it three to four times a week. I love it! Yes, I like EVs but driving this brings me back to simpler times. It takes premium gas.that I don’t mind paying for. I’ve had it for 21 years. I hope it goes another 21 years!
Spot on. Keep up the good work Uncle Tony !
I have worked for 2 different companies that injection molded the types of plastic parts for auto manufacturers you are talking about. I am 100 percent with you.
preach brother!! preach. I'm always reposting your talks and recommending you. I myself own 3 classic cars a '39 Pontiac, 57' Chevy and 69' Fairlane.
Straight facts. Bravo Tony.
Very good points you are spot on.
I have been saying this for years Tony! Here in Germany a couple of car magazines have done studies that show a car needs to be used 200,000km before the impact of even MANUFACTURING a replacement is equalled (ie before you can compare emissions, economy, etc). That the numbers behind these estimates come from the industry itself, the suspicion is that the 200k number is very generous. Then we get into the lithium-ion batteries ... Less consumption is the only way to make a serious impact, anything else is just a boondoggle for one industry or the next.
Great video Tony. This thinking needs to get into the mainstream. Those of us who 'think' have always known this and lived by the philosophy.
Yeah I've lost my marbles ? My 2011 GM Truck is getting up there so I went to a Dealer looking to replace it, nothing fancy, just "replace" with same options etc., $78,000 here in Canada !
So now I'm off on the hunt for an 68-76 A-Body in somewhat restorable condition.... which in western Canada can still be found fairly rust free in back yards, under sheds, etc., etc.
I don't care... Slant 6, wee-18... whatever.... I'll spend $20K doing whatever I gotta do as I was a Mechanic for 45 years.... and I'll drive THAT summer/winter for years !
I commend you my good sir!
Great video Tony! Looking forward to your next videos on this.
I've been saying this for years! Retooling every year is insane!! Imagine the (tool tree) and all the infinite limbs down the trunk.
I've been involved in manufacturing my whole working life, and have been in plants everywhere from the place that injection molds the plastic of those caps to assembly plants, but I must admit I've never really thought about it that much. Tony is right, the manufacturing machine to just make that cap is huge.
Just take the spring in that cap. It starts by some mining company digging iron ore out of the ground or at a steel recycling place. Then it goes to the plant that smelts iron ore or melts Iron scrap to make the raw steel, which even they get other materials from other plants to make the additives to put in the steel. Then the raw steel will likely go to a plant that will draw the raw steel wire to size. Then it will go to the place that actually twist the wire into a spring and maybe heat treat it. Then it will likely go to another plant that assembles the cap into all it's components. Then it will go to another plant that assembles the completed power steering pump. Then it will finally go to the vehicle assembly plant to be installed on the new vehicle. .
The point is that it goes way beyond just car parts being made. Parts are made for just about everything. ie. washers, dryers, dishwashers.
I have two cars that are 64 and 66 years old that my dad bought new. And both of them still run.
Glad someone is speaking out about this that has a sizable audience . This has been in the back of my mind for years. Thanks Tony.
I had to share this on Facebook with my car people. It may not have been thought of as profound and yet if your mind go deep into what you were saying, it was so informative. Thank you for always breaking things down so I can understand it.
I have learning difficulties so that was very helpful.
LOL...I didn't even need to watch this one. I knew exactly what you meant as soon as you made the statement. I work on those old cars for a living. I also install a lot of old used parts that haven't created a carbon footprint for 50 years. Thinking about all you said about that power steering cap makes my brain hurt. I just want to go play with old cars that can be kept on the road with a fraction of the carbon footprint of the new stuff...and my 56 yr old car that I drive gets better millage than my "modern" car with a computer and EFI. I burn less fuel and I recycle. I'm greener than you think.
This also applies to the solar panel and wind turbine industry too. The amount of carbon produced manufacturing, transporting and installing a wind turbine is incredible. Really wonder how long it has to run to offset the carbon produced getting it up and running
I’ll tell you last night. I monitor 3 wind farms, while I run a gas turbine/ combined cycle plant (units). It was a cold night with no wind, they didn’t contribute anything near 1 percent of their rated capacity. We ran some big loads last night on the gas burners.
The power it takes to create a solar panel with the giant furnaces is the same power that solar panel will create during its entire lifetime. Also related to the discussion is the fuel. BTU/lb. How much energy is in the fuel vs how much the fuel weighs. Gasoline is something like 14000 btu per pound. Batteries dont even come close. This whole electric car thing is nonsense. People wont want it when they find out what it costs in reality
Solar powered windmills.😂
not to mention the sun and the wind aren't always reliable. Am of the opinion that hydro is the best form of "green" energy and it requires a VERY specific set of circumstances to even work (river with two hills or mountains on either side that are made of stable soil and sit on stable bedrock, and enough area to flood without completely erasing the local ecosystem and displacing some highly important local flora or fauna).
Don't forget about servicing them, replacing blades, and the havoc they create on the environment, killing bird life, and during their service life, they leak oil, the blades deteriorate causing contamination of composite materials, microplastics, and the blades that served their service life has to be dismantled from the unit and transported far away and disposed of, they're far more vulnerable. There is nothing green about this bullshit.
Well said, Uncle Tony! Moreover, if the issue is to achieve Zero or close to zero emissions then a total ban on classic cars is not needed and is misplaced. Most car enthusiasts restore their cars with modern updated parts, e.g. disc brakes, dual well master cylinders, etc. All they have to do is to upgrade to low emission engines with catalytic converters (like new cars)such as the LS engines by GM. The quality of the exhaust emissions should be the determining factor instead of an outright ban on the whole car in my opinion.
This is one of your best videos, Uncle Tony. Informative, well reasoned, and calmly presented.
I ride old motorcycles specifically because they are easy to repair and built to be worked on in a home garage. Buy one for a few hundred bucks, catch it up to speed for a coulpe hundred more, and then have cheap ride that I know inside and out. Edit: your little virago 250 is a great example of this. One carb, 2 valves per cylinder. And it's been made for 35 years. I've got a 98 1100 virago. But sure wouldn't mind if a little 250 followed me home one day.
Sweet! I’ve owned 2 ‘98 XV1100 Specials, and my wife had a 535! We loved those bikes much more than our Harley Sportsters that we owned at another time. I rode her 535 several times, and it was definitely the most comfortable ride of the many bikes we’ve owned.
I haven’t seen a actual motorcycle for a couple hundred bucks in 20 years!
0:45 well thanks for that man,right now it feels good to be a car guy.
Hey Uncle Tony don't forget that the use of special tools and special fasteners so the Back yard mechanic can't afford or have a hard time getting them.
I read an article a while back that claimed the 2004 Toyota Corolla is the most energy efficient vehicle available today. And I believe it.
I would have thought by now, with new automobile prices now reaching what a home would cost not that long ago (I purchased a 3 bedroom home in El Paso in 1988 for $43,800.00) the public would have decided to keep their automobiles forever, even considering an engine rebuild if it came to that, but that idea has never really caught on. Not to mention the crazy depreciation a new car suffers! Well, I will never understand the new car mentality, at least as far as this day in age.
Have too love that they want solar panel fields in MI. Removing productive farmland for a MI climate that is pretty much cloudy for half the year. Doesn't that make sense?
Wait till you get to the fuel part with ethanol.
They have destroyed much forest land with corn fields in states like Iowa and Nebraska.
It started to make sense when I started to see farmers backing this green crap years ago. They got alot of money out of it.
Soy products with food as well.
your first opening statement made me hit the thumbs up! yes we who drive build and love the classic car are the most caring. thank you for all your videos!!! all truth!!!!!! i watch all your videos!! great content and the most universal !! keep it up!! and KUDOS!!!!
Not only are some of the things you say profound, but you're so modest about it! I and many others haven't thought about cars this way.
Owning older used cars IS the primary form of recycling. Buy them at 100K and drive them to 300K to get the most out of the "sunk cost" of building them in the first place 😁
Soto on. Not only cars, they don't want you to own anything . Ownership equals control.
Look at the weight of a vintage VW Beetle. They weigh less than 1 ton. Compare that to a newer vehicle. They are much heavier.
It should also be noted that the carbon footprint of getting rid of older vehicles, is also a major factor.
I found your page earlier today after watching your video on basic tuning a Holley carb. My 79 El Camino almost ready! Ty great video I learned a lot. And great point in this video, new fan new subscriber 🙏
How does Uncle Tony only have 333K subscribers?
Disposable describes the 4.7 if that replaced the 318 la what a big mistake
Tony we always knew you were well versed in your field but now the masses know you’re brilliant!