Bivol-Canelo RECAP: Wild Scorecards, Reactions & More!
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- čas přidán 10. 05. 2022
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Bivol should move to 168 and take all of Canelos belts.
He’s already offered to and I doubt if he accepts.
Then immediately drop them, beat Beterbieve i he can, then challenge Mukabu for his belt just to show out.
And Bivol would..
Canelo has to agree which is unlikely. He's going to go for GGG. 😔
That's cold lol
A lot of people may have missed how savage bivol looked when he would bite down and throw combos. If he did that more he probably stops canelo.
Was saying the same thing I don’t know if he was holding back or is just disciplined but three more flurry’s like what he threw canelo would’ve been on the floor
It was a classy, disciplined performance. Exactly how we predicted on our video that was released in our channel.
Have a look :)
He hurt canelo twice he just had too much respect and didn't want to risk it like a smart fighter ,out side bivol has the advantage so y would he press and go in when he hurt him from distance never had to go in and get stationary that's what cnelo wanted him to get in and stand there
@@jordanroberts8270 or it would have got him timed...he fought like he did for a reason
His camp even said they wanted an earlier finish
What impressed me the most with Bivol is the fact that he made Canelo fight at his(Bivol) pace - that’s what made Canel tired and the fact that Canelo made a rookie mistake by throwing everything hard to gain Bivol’s respect. Canelo over the past few years has gotten power drunk and where was his jab?!!! Bad gameplay IMO there was more to this loss than size.
He becomes too reliant on his power rather than his set ups.
Nonetheless, he released a video how Bivol was going to beat Canelo prior to the fight. Have a look :)
100% facts
He never had a consistent jab
Unless its a counter
Or touch touch unload combo he usually loads up n his technique isn't bad
Throwing the same speed so much is predictable for sharp boxers
Same combos n strategy every fight
This was that 1 fight he had to ko someone
They tried to rob bivol
Canelo already beat Kovalev at 175 how is Bivol's to big Bivol in Kovalev are the same size stop it
Yup, canelo didn’t use his jab at all… didn’t throw to the body… tired himself out quickly, Bivol completely dominated
6:53 He did try and got rocked 😂😂😂 started hitting Bivol elbows
Alright watching he was there. Shawn didn't see what we saw on tv.
It isn't people underestimated Bivol, they overestimated Canelo and the judges.
What is Porter talking about? Canelo tried to shoot his liver shot all throughout the fight, but Bivol was catching it with his elbow every time.
Exactly, bro. He tried the body shot it just didn’t land. Shawn watched a different fight. Lol
@@desert_rose7171 lol
@@desert_rose7171 Shawn had it 3 - 2 for Canelo after 5
Exactly. Canelo was getting caught with the jab when he came in. Bivol didn't let him fight his own fight.
@@zingisamahlasela yep, that jab kept making Canelo have to reset.
9-3 bivol. That's it am being generous it should be 10-2
Bivol was 185 on fight night and whooped canelo as i predicted 117.111
bivol ko's him on rematch,he went easy and didn't let his hands go,felt canelo's power..
I scored it exactly as you did. I predicted the win, but what surprised me was how often Bivol fought Canelo on the inside & won there as well as he did from the outside. Brilliant performance!
He was 183 actually.
Predicting a bigger guy to win isn't hard 😄
He didnt "go easy" he was smart, Canelo was throwing hard shots all night so he knew he didnt want to risk being set up into one. Canelos still canelo and the next fight he will fight different. I dont think he can beat bivol but the next one will be more competitive.
Was 183. Not 185 and think canelo was 179 or maybe 177, I forgot. There not massively different is size. Canelos extremely stocky
My score:
1 - Bivol, busier, more aggressive.
2 - Bivol, Canelo looks sluggish, especially with the right hook.
3 - Canelo, landing the more telling blows, looks a bit bothered by the jab.
4 - Canelo, spends a lot of time on the ropes but again lands the more telling blows.
5 - Bivol, throwing effective flurries, standing his ground more in this round.
6 - Bivol, controlling the distance, effective against Canelo laying on the ropes.
7- Bivol, looks fresh, Canelo looks sluggish. Bivol backing Canelo up at will.
8 - Canelo's best round. Throwing more straight punches, more aggressive, backing Bivol up.
9 - Bivol, Canelo's still aggressive. but Bivol has adjusted from the last round. Fight is uneventful at center ring, but Canelo lays on the ropes and Bivol is effective.
10 - Bivol now effective in the exchanges at center ring with the jab and 1-2. Canelo lays on the ropes, looks tired, crowd boos.
11 - Bivol, Canelo still looks tired and is ineffective in the exchanges, when aggressive he gets caught with the counter left from Bivol, the most effective punches of the round. Canelo frustrated.
12 - Bivol - sitting on his punches. Busier, fresher, stronger.
Bivol 117
Alvarez 111
Canelo did NOT land the more telling blows. His punches had ZERO impact on Bivol. The more telling blows came from Bivol. He literally broke canelo down every round...Busted his limp ass up
@@adriancanestra6910 you're free to score the rounds however you like, the judges did. I've given my rationale for awarding the round to either canelo or bivol.
@@leroybrown9143 Canelo might have won 3 rounds. He certainly didn't win the first 4...lol
Ask yourself, after every round, who would you rather be, Canelo or Bivol? Bivol demolished that dude...lol
@@adriancanestra6910 I scored the fight 117-111 bivol, last I checked that's 9 rounds to 3 for bivol. I did not say canelo won the first 4 rounds. You're responding to someone else.
Did you score the fight.
@@adriancanestra6910 no, but they looked good enough to have the judges fooled. however, the scoring seems on point
The couple of times that Canelo tried to go to the body Bivol countered him. It’s harder to go too the body when there’s a stiff jab in your face.
I’m proud of you Shawn. I wasn’t a big fan of yours as a boxer, even though you always brought out the best in your opponents, but I always knew you had something greater in store. Your media career will be legendary!
He’s been an arm puncher in his last 4-5 fights
Bivol Soviet Union footwork with the jab is the main thing that was getting Canelo. In all honesty when he realize he couldn’t hurt him with his strongest punches or get around his guard while being attentive to always counter strike, throw a combination, I’m pretty positive that frustrated Canelo. Also, Bivol actually isn’t a 175 fighter. He’s a actually a 168 pounder that’s just fighting at 175. Bivol came in fight night at 180 he said. Those judges also are cap Canelo only won like round 2 out of the first 4 rounds. But I’m positive since those were close rounds they just gave it to the big star. It was at a point that I thought bivol was about to stop nelo but had respected Canelo. He also didn’t fall for him when Canelo was on the ropes. What’s great is Bivol always kept it in the center of the ring and stayed calm the whole time like he was Goku lol. Bivol vs Beterbiev is more interesting than a rematch with Canelo though. Overall only thing I was shocked about was the judges almost robbed Bivol even after Bivol convincingly won it. Also, everyone saying Bivol too big mainly the Canelo fanboys, yet they didn’t say it when he beat a turn around fight from Yarde Kovalev. I guarantee if he beat Bivol they wouldn’t say that, not even mention it.
Those scorecards 😳😳 When they started calling them out I just knew they had screwed Bivol. 115-113, that was trash. Larry Holmes said in the 80s, “I think judges are drunk when they come to judge fights”, these 3 obviously were. Bivol put on one hell of a performance though, didn’t he?
The bigger guy has good strong legs. Balanced, unlike callum smith. This takes so much energy from Canelo, trying to hit hard to keep the bigger guy off. It's a harder wall to hit and the power is strong coming at canelo. Trying to weigh as big drained him heavy.
Also everyone has been bigger since Jascobs, don't make things up like another 2 weight classes wasn't a massive jump.
@@usmc8816 - Yeah, those scorecards made me extremely frustrated. These corrupt judges have tainted the beautiful sport of boxing. They have ruined many careers by not judging fairly. Bivol deserved that win, hands down.
@@BigPat6521 it ain’t when he already did it, stop giving excuses. If he would’ve stopped bivol y’all would praise nelo.
Great commentary!
Bivol does better in a ramatch. He's been in with bigger punchers than Canelo, he's already demonstrated that he can beat Canelo on the outside AND on the inside. Canelo tired down the stretch, Bivol didn't. In a rematch, Bivol will win the exchanges that are Canelo's only path to victory. A good big man beats a good small man. Weight class matters, period. It's not just that Canelo lost, Canelo was dominated, he lost nearly every round, so yes, Canelo does drop a notch P4P.
I'm not convinced Canelo cleans out 168. Canelo should take the big money fight with Errol Spence in Dallas at 164. That's a "greatness" fight and huge payday for both fighters.
Canelo wins rematch easy! Rewatch that fight look SUS AF! Rounds 1-4 little of 5 Canelo puts that work only to the arm no body at all! One of Canelos best tool is that right hook to the body and for some reason he avoided it. That’s why Bivol stayed fresh during that fight. Canelo ain’t trying to give GGG that payyydayyy I know that! Lol
@@manuelponce6764 bivol controlled distance and saw that punch coming every time. Bivol is too rangy for canelo. In a rematch canelo may win the same number of rounds, 3, but he will lose worse because bivol will do better in the exchanges than he did in this fight. He'll pick up exactly where he left off, beating canelo to the punch at center ring, pushing him back at will and beating him against the ropes with punch flurries.
Yes bivol has the better chance of winning a rematch. Canelo needs to change a lot. Doesn't need to be big in this fight since he already can't hurt him without setups. Needs his defense to be his main priority like when he fought jacobs. Can't lead with power like he has been recently. Counter like he does best, but it's all hard to do in a Upper weightclass, too much body for canelo to hold which will tire out. A lot he has to do where bivol has less.
Good discussion. A lot if good observations.
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Bivol wont be losing to lil red hes better all around hes fought bigger punchers like jean pascal and joe smith jr lil reds power not working on bivol.. bivol was at 40% 50% of himself and won clearly it was one of his easiest fights.
Lil red, Canelos rapper name lol
The subtly of how Bivol casually took the pace of the fight away from Canelo ontop of forcing Canelo out of his comfort zone, only to enter into his comfort zone and outwork him in the pocket was amazing to watch.
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I'm trying to figure out what fight they were watching. Canelo was gassed by round 3. 3 and 4 clearly went to Bivol!
The thing I mainly appreciated from Bivol and was a huge factor to taking Canelo out of his rhythm...Was the footwork from Bivol he was always heading off Alvarez and was always on him, and cutting him off. It was great to see and like you guys said he knew when to put pressure and to take breaks it was genius from Bivol.
Its on the table, the backdrop, right hand corner, we get it!
canelo looked flat fooded and not comfortable throwing many punches at that weight. He was obviously tired at the end of the fight
Flat what nigga ??
That's because he wanted to play counter puncher but Bivol didn't allow it. Made him come forward which not what he wants
Bivols foot work was solid and looked very comfortable with his defense as well.
It was not the weight, Canelo just not on his Level.
It was not the weight, Canelo just not on his Level.
Bivol weighed at 183 fight night
Yep and Canelo confirmed 180lbs
Canelo did try a sustained body attack & Bivol kept landing his left hook every time Canelo got inside. Camelo has picked off 4 guys at 168 that had fast hands but no power. It was clearly obvious to me that when Canelo fights a guy with enough power to knock him backwards he would lose.
Yep i totally agree with your assessment. Bivol and Mayweather hit hard enough to keep Canelo guessing and away. Also agreed canelo tried to go to the body but left himself exposed for the counters. It is NOT about just Bivol's size, it was his movement, power, and speed, and his boxing fundamentals are so sound. Canelo aint beating Bivol in a rematch at even 168 in a fair judge scoring
Bivol bullied canelo
He show did without knowing it
Shawn hit the nail on the head, with canelos approach
BS. Just admit the defeat. Everyone has a breaking point
Ohhh my.... I laughed , TY!!!!!
I mean , when the decision was announced, LOL.
Shawn’s breakdown was awesome
I'm not a canelo fan but canelo needs to go in the middle of the stomach and uppercut to the chin and move left to right and go straight to the stomach and jabbing to the stomach and not side to side.
I got it right and I am happy.
Bivol fought smart this time around, safety first,....no traps...tap tap...out. Worked when Canello rested....felt what level of power Canelo has.....Next fight...he picks up the footwork earlier, lays on his power...and in late rounds stops Canelo...possibly by K.O
I became a Huge Porter fan after the spence loss..
I feel the same way for Canelo now..
Bivol fought at his tempo the entire fight, if he really wanted to push the tempo he could've knocked down or maybe even stop Canelo.
you may right. but Bivol hate to overcommit punches
Taking about hydrating. Noone said anything when he hydrated against Khan.
I kinda thought my boi Porter was scoring the fight with them ridiculous cards cause he said he had Ugas up on Spence before the knockout. 🤣🤣
Had it 116-112 as well Bivol fought greatly
I'm not giving him credit for challenging himself. Now he beat everyone in his natural weight class and no challenges left then decide to move up and try this ok. But he need to fight Charlo, Andrade, Benavidez so it's looks like his tactic of ducking backfired
Canelo and andrade fight at 160 and David lost his belt. After going undisputed you’re gonna say it wasn’t okay for him to try out a new division again? Weird.
@@pandabear1576 weird? Why didn’t Canelo want undisputed when Benevidez had a belt? Canelo had almost a decade to fight Andrade
I think another problem Canelo had was throwing singular bombs instead of combinations, using punches to open up Bivol's guard before putting real heat on the shots. In addition he only used a flicking jab with no thump behind it so Bivol didn't have to respect it. I would like to see in the rematch when Canelo gets him against the ropes, like he had him several times, to let loose a 4 or 5 bunch combination instead of just one big shot.
All what you mentioned went right out the window when Bicol rocked him 😂
We all had that reaction when the announcer said and still.
Bivol said he was around 183~
Also, does anyone know why Canelo has that scar on his left shin? It could be nothing but I was wondering if whatever it was is part of why he doesn’t utilise footwork that much. He rarely pushes off of that leg when taking a backward step
He has had knee injuries in the past I’m not sure if that’s what you’re talking about.
No canelo has just been flat footed his whole career
@Atlantean's Blood yup. Here they come 😂 🤣🤣🤣😅
Surgery. And noooooo way in hell Bivol was only 183. Ask any therapist or athletic trainer or doctor and they know Bivol was 195 minimum! Tall thick big core and legs look fake!
@Atlantean's Blood I’m not excusing shit, the better man won. It was a genuine question not an implication. He’s had it for some time so it has no relevance to this particular fight
The fact 2 of them stated with assurance Canelo would win rematch shows why judges gave those BS scorecards. This false sense of belief.
Bivol is great
You guys still have the new studio at the Wynn?
Bivols hand speed and combination punching won him the fight. He left the jab towards the end I think because that Left bicep started hurting. But overall an impressive win that they still almost took from him
There are weight categories for a reason!!
Nice jersey carson
Broski wearing a chivas jersey lol
Bivol said he was 183-185 in the Ring
With the Chivas jersey 🔥
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I did the same thing when they said and still..... I was like what oh hell no they robbed....then they said his bivol's name and I was relieved they didn't rob Bicol like whew
I might be the only one, but I could at most give canelo 1 round. I can't believe people have it as close as 117-111 or even 116-112. It makes me physically sick that Bivol almost got robbed. It also shows me that he will lose the rematch because it is already negotiated probably
I think ppl just don't wanna admit it he lost damn near every round shit wasn't close at all
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Think Going up in weight effects the output. And the speed changes seem to give em Problems.
If they fight again, Bivol will knock Canelo ass out.
Not if canelo could crush his biceps in time. If he could break his clavicle he has a chance
@@wearycry8922 He doesn't have a chance. He gets his ass kicked again.
@@MegaUltimateMaster I'm being sarcastic
No surprise with the judges cards it was expected Vegas will always try to protect the golden goose
Towards the end of the fight Bivol challenged Canelo to a inside fight head to head and Bivol won on the inside as well
You could make a movie/documentary on Clenelos shady career
4-0 Canelo after four rounds is how you fix a fight.
FYI Bivol said he was like 183-185 walking into the ring.
He said he was 183lbs. Canelo said he walked around 180lbs and that he would weigh fight night 180lbs. Theres no size/frame disadvantage only height disadvantage. He just got schooled
Someone did ask Bivol after the fight what was his weight in the ring?...He said he was 183lbs
I don’t know why Canelo kept shooting his right to Bivol’s left arm over and over again. He should have raised his aim 8 inches higher.
Canelo is not 175 pound fighter Bivol is. It looks like Canelo was relying moron strength Bivol moved more naturally at that weight.
It was over when I seen him have his daughter on his lap
Porter right exactly 💯 canelo left his bag in the gym he never adjusted and he should play the point system out score by jabbing and sneaking in his angles then get out of range
Yeah that would have been worse for Canelo. Bivol is the best pure boxer in the sport.
Noones outboxing him.
Chivas Jersey go crazy
Shawn, what fight were you watching? Canelo went to the several times, Bivol was smart enough to catch them with his elbows. To say that Canelo did not prepare to fight on the inside, given his body of work, sounds like a lame way to excuse Canelo for getting dominated by a skill technician. Canelo's intoxication with his own power made him a one dimensional fighter who thinks because he can move his head in a fraction of the way that Floyd does, made him a defensive wizard. Bivol showed him something different. Canelo was beaten physically & mentally. You could see the frustration in his face & the fatigue down the stretch. Bivol was my pick because I knew that his Jab & combination punching was going to be a problem for Canelo. Size was not the dominant factor in this fight Brother, sorry man! It was a clinic & I thoroughly enjoyed it!
Canelo was running away from charlo and Benevidez he thought Bivol was 47 years old Kovelev
He said he weighed 183 at fight time.
Canelos problem was that he was gassed out after the 4th or 5th round.
1-3 sure and possibly 9th round... had to watch the 9th over... but watching it live definitely gave him the 9th...
Bivol said he weighed about 183 on the night of the fight
Seeing Canelo dominant at the beginning or at any stage of his fight with Bivol is simply BS!!
Bivol is a true 175lbs!!! He does not need to loose or gain weight to get to that level. He does have to hidrate or de hidrate, that’s the difference and he has been boxing sense he was 5. No drinking or smoking ever not that Canelo smokes but maybe has a drink here or there but t try hat is absolutely nothing.
The truth is that Bivol does not have to force his body to get at that weight as others do.
He couldn’t throw a body shot because Bivol was going to straight right his face in. There was nothing Canelo could try that Bivol was not ready for.
Any fan who knows a little about boxing should know when to bet on the underdog and win majority of the time. The odds on this match was too good to pass.
Easy Work for bivol i called it the russian devin haney amir khan cross mix style way too much for lil red haha bivol by ko next time after hearing those scorecards.
To do all those things Shawn said requires energy. Throwing jabs, throwing hard body punches, requires a tremendous amount of energy. Shawn said fight like Errol Spence, can you see Canelo throwing high volume hard punches round after round like Spence, and not get tired? Really?
I gave canelo 3 rounds. 1,4,9.
Surprise surprise Shawn wanted canelo to make it an inside fight. 😂😂
Me encantan el estilo de los boxeadores mexicanos (Salvador Sanchez, Chavez Sr., Olivares, Barreras, Marquez, Morales, Chiquita Gonzalez, Michael Carbajal, Oscar de La Hoya y Finito Lopes son mis favoritos) pero madre mia a la verdad que son extremadamente MAL perdedores!.Uno gana y uno pierde y las dos se hacen con dignidad y humildad!
A mi humilde opinion el chamaco ruso Bivol tecnicamente es mas completo que Canelo, especialmente en la defenza, la velocidad de piernas/manos y desplaciamiento en el ring!.
The scorecards are the way they are because the judges agreed to Canelo winning those rounds beforehand. That’s how fixed fights work
Exactly
This man said 200.....bivol looked no where near 200
he was 185 ish he said post fight
@@robsweeney4178 183
Bivol said he was 183 on fight night
The cleaner harder shots were landed by Canelo, wasn’t enough volume though
I had it Bivol at 115 and Canelo at 113
I though it was close
Rounds I gave to each fighter:
Bivol : 2, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 12
Canelo : 1, 3, 4, 9, 11,
Look at rounds 3,4,7,9,10 and 11. Very close rounds as far as punch stats go ,
I felt 115-113 was good wouldn’t be surprised if it was 116-112 for Bivol
A lot of shots weren’t connecting on both ends , to me this fight was closer than what a lot of people think .I guess a lot of people were mesmerized on the moments were Bivol was looking really good , to me Canelo wasn’t outclassed but he was outboxed enough to lose the fight
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@Philemon Uthayakumar is that it ? Did you watch the fight ? Look at the stats ? Do you have your own thoughts on the fight ? I’m here for an actual discussion
I believe canelo did get hurt a couple times because he went on the retreat a few times. Why would he run if he wasn't hurt
Bivol is way to good , rematch Bivol will knock him out now , mark my words, because he can now, and get what he deserves.
bivol said he was 183 at fight time. said going to 168 therefore would be no issue
Bivol said he was 183 in the ring
He couldn't go to Bivols body because that big jab was in his face, tagging him. Canelo felt that power and didn't want to get knockout on Cinco de mayo....Canelo thought he would get a decision if he doesn't get knockout
The needs to take clenbuterol so his stamina goes up
Shawn is becoming hard to watch..in the beginning of the 6th Shawn had Canelo winning 4-1 that can only happen with hater goggles.. Bivol weight was 183 during the fight if casual fans know that people on TV should
yeah i burst out laughing when Shawn read his scorecard🤣
It's crazy to me how people knock Floyd for fighting delahoya when he was 34 but he was 36 when he beat Canelo double standard
Say it louder for the people in the back this is nothing but facts
He said he was 183. Bivol
Bump that! He gotta fight Bivol again. The Great ones avenge their losses not listen to the peanut gallery
It has nothing to do with weight, he is a 168 lb fighter fighting at 175. So what happens when he fights at 168?
These guys even thought about the fact what if we vote wins again then what channel is not a very good fighter he’s fighting bombs that’s how he’s made his reputation and that’s what will end be realistic
Bivol is a tiny LHW. He walks around like 185
He was 183 pound