DAVID DRAIMAN DEVICE INTERVIEW: ROGER WATERS ANTI-SEMITIC PIG IN THE WALL (UNEDITED)
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- David Draiman of Device and Disturbed unedited comments about why he decided to take on Roger Waters and his use of the Jewish star on a pig during his more recent productions of The Wall. He talks about defending his heritage, his family being Holocaust survivors, and his disappointment being a Pink Floyd fan. We included the full, unedited piece to give David's comments and feelings justice.
David Draiman could not have said it better himself. On everything. Both Device and Disturbed's music have a reason behind the music. To me, its a declaration. Specifically Disturbed "Indestructible."
Strong, True and beautiful words! The world is in a dangerous era of misinformation.
The only words that fuck with roger more than “Israel is going nowhere” are “Pink Floyd is David Gilmour” fuck Roger. Am Yisrael Chai
Tom Kagan you define misinformation
Truth can be a terrible inconvenience to sinners.
lmao standing up for Palestinans makes u a Anti Semitic? these zionests are the real pigs
"The world is in a dangerous era of misinformation."
Yet you consider misinformation to be strong true and beautiful.
Walters didn't single out an individual or ONLY Jewish orthodox individuals or the political party in power residing in Israel, his imagery was chosen to target an entire people, of which, Draiman is part of. That is the issue.
His "tribe" which has mistreated the Palestinians.
Wow! What a speech. Hat off David, love you.
The cross and the Islamic crescent were also on those pigs, something that David conveniently forgets to mention.
@@tariqkhonji6556 That's false
@@fafolaw it’s not look it up
@@tariqkhonji6556 I just did, there's not a single picture of the pig with christian or Islamic symbols, and even if there was, Roger Waters knows the history of European antisemitism, he knows damn well that Jews being depicted as pigs used to be a big antisemitic canard in Europe, criticizing Israel by having a pig with a star of david is like criticizing Ethiopia by doing blackface
I love listening to him just talk. His voice seems to be so calming compared to his music. I have met him with Device and he is such a sweet man and loyal to his fans
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David I admire you so much proud of you and for what you are 💕💕💕💕💕lots of love hanna shalala from Israel 💋 💋 💋 💋
#FreePalestine
@@brucegough oh dear God free us from ppl like Bruce....what the hell is wrong with you man
Go free your mind come to Israel and see the damn truth we are not the bad side
I wish you to open your eyes 👀
@@hannashalala6728 Is your sex change complete or are you still transitioning?
@@brucegough yes I'm the man now f***
Off stop responding 🖕
@@brucegough Yes free Palestine, send all the invading Arabs back to their home countries, and let the rightful righteous people reclaim their ancient homeland.
WHERE HAS EVERYONE BEEN THE PAST 50 YEARS?!?!?!?
Pink Floyd has ALWAYS been anti-religion/anti-government,
There's a difference between being conceptually anti-religion and directing animosity towards a specific group more than other groups. It's like the difference between Hitchens and Hitler. Hitchens didn't hate you if you were Jewish, he just believed very strongly that you were misguided. Hitler actually hated you and acted upon it.
solar solar solar what dont u understand
palestinians.wanted to throw jews in the sea along with 7 other arab nations in 1948. if israel didnt react they would be dead . that being said the odds were overwhelmingly aginst israel's survival. so its a miracle that israel after being oppressed and still being oppressed by arab neighboring countries , israel still flourishes.
Won't be flourishing after Iran drops their nukes...
@@brucegough GOD is GOD don't doubt him . ISRAEL HAS PROTECTION OF GOD. how else can it survive all these years.
@@4444pro
By the strength of its people.
God is just a way of explaining what you cannot comprehend, like science diseases.
you couldn't be more offensive...more despicable...and more DISGUSTING than for him to actually put the star of David on a pig?!? I cannot believe that anyone who is considered an "entertainer" would be this heartless and damn disrespectful to an entire group of people! !! I am a HUGE MAJOR Disturbed fan and just saw them in Biloxi Tuesday night(fucking amazing show 😆).... but first and foremost for years before Disturbed was ever on the scene i WAS a huge Pink Floyd fan....those days are gone now...and I myself am not Jewish. ..I am Native American Cerokee/ Blackfoot Indian.., but I was raised to respect every person and to never judge...and to never purposely offend anyone for any reason...I was taught that we are all entitled to live our lives peacefully among everyone but if need be you fight for what you believe in and you never back down from an issue this offensive to an entire group of people who suffered through some of the most atrocious... haneous treatment in HISTORY!!! I cannot even imagine what his grandmother endured at the tender age of 6 years!! I don't even want to imagine what horror she went through barely escaping with her life so many times!! and the way the Jewish people were starved... beaten..humiliated. .tortured and so many killed for the likes of a sick man who if his own followers would have had any fucking balls they would have turned on Hitler instead and ripped his pathetic nuttless ass and ripped him apart instead of killing hundreds of thousands of good decent people and the women and children?!?! That shows a bunch of weak..insecure... pathetic sniffling pussies to do what they did to the Jewish people...and what was done to my people was atrocious and traced several of my own ancestors who were made to walk the trail if tears and were lost to us forever because one group of people wanted to rule and dominate another! its WRONG to uphold what he has done to the Jewish people and how he has blatantly disrespected the entire Jewish community with this disgusting act...I am sorry to say this since I grew up with pink Floyd. ..but I will never support them again because of this stunt...
Shut up,you tart!
Hearing David Draiman talk I can honestly say that he would stand up for anybody who's being oppressed in any form he would literally fight for anybody's rights no matter what it seems like a genuine person
Agreed.
Anybody who isn't oppressed by Zionist extremist Israel
@@Louisee77 Fuck zionists !!
Unless they're Palestinian or White gentiles of course.
hes littlerly the nazis who run the west an censor anyone who exposes their kkklan is the only race on the planet allowed to own things or be in media.
an have thoughts. 🤣 but i think ots actually the game making the 2 of you appear to exist. so its not your fault you cant do things of value or have thoughts of your own.
"next to facists and nazi ones"
you referring to the Crucifix, the Crescent and Star, or the Hammer and Sickle that were on the same pig??
@Ulf Joakim you can't compare the wars durimg the prophet time to isis/alqaeda...because the war during the prophet time started because the pagans were slaughtering muslims... and remember who made al-qaeda...isis ahm ahm **USA**
could anyone tell me which Belgian Rabbi he's talking about? I'm from Belgium and it just peeked my interest ...
Does anyone else think the guy on the right just doesn't want to be there? He looks like he can't stop thinking about a ham sandwich or something.
Love this man more than ever. I didn't think it were possible. Nice to see his brothers-by-choice with him.
This made me cry...hearing about his grandma =(
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I promise you. None of that happened
Wow, so emotionally fragile.
ArtisanNewsService never asked Roger Waters about this situation?
I love David Draiman. He’s so thoughtful, fair, and eloquent.
i wonder what nation hes gonna run to now that yall kkklansmen empire is under attack?
david draiman is Trash
Roger Waters is a genius
Who are the two guys sitting next to him?
Other band members of the group Device which david started when he went in hiatus from Disturbed
Hearing him speak about his grandfather and how his grandmother managed to survive the Holocaust made me tear up and stomach turn. David is a fantastic and impassioned speaker and I hope that he continues telling their stories, whether spoken, written or in song. These are stories that need to be told so that they are not forgotten, so that they will not be repeated... never again.
How did so many people survive?
Humanity loves a great story. I always like to tell the story about how my grandfather had wings and flew everywhere he needed to go. Back in the good ole days when impossible things happened every day..
@@capitalism420 For the same reason young people go on hunger strikes and survive. Are you really this dumb? Older weaker people died. Younger stronger people lived. Just like anything else.
Come on, stop the crutch. Just because your people were mistreated does not justify your mistreatment of Palestinians. Period.
@@capitalism420 because they were work camps, not death camps.
I would love to sit across the table with David and have a legitimate Christian talk about Pink Floyd
I think I'm in love with his soul..
I guess that's better than being in love with the Auto-Tune cord he keeps connected to his console.
Peace brother ❤
Thanks guys!
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He is exactly where God needs him to be. True light worker 🙏💙
he stands up for himself by taking over nations an trampling the races below his feet.
lightworker.
putin is a lightworker.
god when he creates nukes was a lightworker
God advovates to war, murder, lie, mass murder and genocide to take others lands?
What "God" is that?
The Nazis?
God bless you ! Well said .
Peace and love from Israel ❤️
Open borders for israel
@jeff Oh Hi, Jeff the nazi.
Love back❤️
Your government still sucks.
You mean from Palestine.
@@brucegough Fuck palestine, fuck hamas, jihad, al shabaab. Terrorist organizations, no one recognizes though.
Is Device feel like Disturbed?
Yves Heinrich Not as heavy in my opinion.
On device david brought in a few collaborators to be on the album like serj tankiem and a few others
Is that Andre Agassi in the middle?
He’s his body double
Passionate and eloquent. Truth.
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I will be praying for you David - love your strength, your intelligence, the pure logic of your stance. You have a King David mantel for the fight, and that is breathtaking! The world needs more people like you, courageous, truth-seeking, honor-bound, noble in your intentions!
I agree with you 100% - although Israel needs to remain Israel, undivided - God will protect her children; the collective assortment of Jews, Christians and Muslims within her boundaries, anything else, and they will be predictably screwed with. I've been there, touched and seen the tangible peace of Jerusalem and encountered all the flavour of her wonderful peoples, even amidst great sorrows. Watch and see the supernatural hand of Yahweh protect ....ultimately!
Israel is forever! And, the media is rubbish! Time for people to wake up to that truth and just WHO is behind all media outlets!
Shalom to you and your precious family as you walk the path of destiny, like Ester did.
DId your Rabbi bite too hard down with his teeth during your circumcision?
will and virus must have been bored af lol
Here here 🙌 Amazing and you was heard.
Well Said.
This is not what I expected from a death metal guy. He's remarkably intelligent and well spoken, not to mention that he's a thousand percent right.
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You do know that disturbed isn't Death metal?
@@yeetlad926 Yyyeaaah....you're right - I suppose it isn't. The bigger point here is the second sentence I wrote.
@@fargo007 You're second sentence is even more wrong. You're definitely no authority on intelligence lol
Wow David is talking about bigotry while you just typed a narrow minded ignorant comment how ironic
Thank you David Draimen
There will be a hit song based off this by disturbed i bet
It'll be called "Down with Netanyahu's Sickness"
He is truly a god and a man of power! 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻 And a kind hearted soul. 🥰
Why would anyone still assume Roger Waters' use of the star of David to be an anti-semitic message when Roger himself has said that it isn't and explained why it isn't? If he was actually anti-semitic or trying to spread an anti-semitic message, it would be grossly out of line with everything else he has ever spoken of in his personal philosophy and songwriting.
Because actions speak much louder than words. And when you openly support a terrorist organisation that want to murder all Jews (Hamas), then yes, you ARE an anti-semite. Add to that Waters' love for Putin and it's about time that more people start to see Waters for the Nazi that he is.
What an amazing human being.
lolz
I guess he needs The Wall explained to him.
disturbed scream for "freedom of speech" just because you don't agree doesn't mean you, as a person, can't say it. Roger waters was simply making a reference to the life he was living. Post war. Draiman is overly sensitive here, but then again these days everyone is.....
I agree with him. Had a poor man made the same commentary, I doubt his words would have been as well received. Something to think about.
Love you David. Thank you for standing up for all of us and shining your light
Abraços do Brasil ao David e ao povo judeu! Parabéns, David! Concordo totalmente com você. Apoio 100 você, povo judeu e o Estado de Israel. Estamos juntos!
🤜🤛
Time now to hear from Mr. Waters on Artisan News methinks.
This is just Rodger Waters not the rest of Pink Floyd. I do agree with you about being offended.
Yes let's not drag legend David Gilmour into this. He doesn't like Waters either.
Breath of fresh air, David Draiman! Thank you for your timely and succinct words. I am continually shocked and disturbed at the things I hear on some of these new age sites and social media.
I love the way you do stand bro.. Im on ur side...👍👍👍👍
I have been disappointed by a lot of my heroes these last few years. Speak you mind David, I m with you all the way.
Wow David seem a little Disturbed !
5:07 When I saw that this video was unedited, I kind of expected some profanity. But David was very humble and showed a great deal of restraint. The most profane he got was when he referenced the "damn pig".
I wonder what his thoughts are regarding the current state of events in the world, given that this interview was 10 YEARS AGO! God bless you David! I stand in support of Israel!
Respect.
The pig from when pigs fly David now go back and think about what DeFeo said in the Amityville, haunting David
Try to remember he still mourning SIDS death when he get four guys like that together they really do turn into a bunch of brothers sitting in a room
I absolutely agree R. Waters shouldn't use the Star of David, but it is also true he uses he Crucifix, the Crescent and Star, the Hammer and Sickle, the Shell Oil Logo and The McDonald’s Sign, a Dollar Sign and a Mercedes sign on the pig.
Because Waters is a man of decency and wisdom.
But that’s what the song money means on the dark side of the Moon album where it goes to Ching to chain to Ching. He’s talking about how evil and corrupt eight off really was about how it was all about nothing but a war machine.
He is entitled to his opinion, however, the pig in question, was a negative symbol to be torn apart at the end of the show, It was meant to be offensive in that sense. Mr Water's father and grandfather both died in WW2 fighting against the nazis. There is nazi-esque imagery all over that album and film and it has been there for 30 some odd years. That album, and the show in question, is and always has been dark satire. It's art, which sometimes can be offensive... but to call Roger Waters anti semitic is ignorant. I understand that the idea of a jewish star on a pig is not a positive image, but when I see the show, I get the feeling that he's saying all symbols are just that, symbols of dogma, that perpetuate war and the like. Just my opinion, Disturbed did a great job on that Genesis cover.
To take any symbol which stands for a people, for a history, and all the suffering and sacrifice that went with it (not only in Judaïsm)- then portray it as a symbol of oppression, to be destroyed, is at the very least not a very respectful move.
I carry my symbol with pride, it gives me strength and I hold it in my heart with my head held high. To have someone label it as oppressive, take it and stigmatise it, would be very hurtful to me.
I can very much understand that jews would be 'less than pleased' and I fully agree.
Art can give meaning, opinions, and it can be unpleasant, or sting. Having a pig fly through the air with a star of David, as if it is an aberration, an oppression and something to be destroyed and to be torn apart, is not art in my opinion. That action deserves its own pig- that's the ideas that should be frowned upon and removed.
Torgeir Redbeard obviously you've never been there.
Jake Crawford how is the pig not an antisemetic simbol? I didnt get your bottom line.
@@Tactical_Equine_Attack_Unit Your people are the Nazis. So get over it.
@@brucegough how are my people nazis?
My grandfather was shot by actual nazis while he was getting fugitives to safety.
My great-uncle was captured, tortured, and shot, along with whomever was left of his platoon, by- you guessed it... not the allied forces!
My great grandmother harboured fugitives and allied forces, to keep them safe from nazis and nurse them back to health.
My nation too suffered under the invasion and oppression of nazis.
My religious 'people' were also sent to concentration camps.
My family, my nation, my religion are all about as anti-nazi as can be.
Having family killed while fighting the third reich regime, makes that I find your comment slightly offensive, and highly unfounded and uneducated.
Well said
This is is giving me ideas, I got this really annoying yenta lives near me, who's just asking for a straightener.
Lmfao for a couple seconds I thought the dude on the right was Dan Donegan... it felt fucking weird.
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What a load of crap. It's artistic expression.
how? if i would put an usa flag on a pig would it be anti usa or artistic expression?
@@shaboki802
Depends on the message.
@@shaboki802 Artistic expression.
I gotta little black book with my poems in.
100% agree with David.
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Also, try to remember when we have parents like that that grew up in that era sometimes they say things out of their mouth they can’t help until someone says something to them to make them understand that their behavior is unacceptable
It sucks be a German Disturbed fan. I mean I don't support Nazi belief but still I hate it when people blame my people and not just the people that were Nazis or support the belief. Although I have never heard him express it that way I can tell how that is most people think one group does something bad and the entire ethnicity is bad all of a sudden. Although there is little I despise more than the Nazis and Nazi symbolic. So I share very similar feelings. Although I admit the German Nazi subject is a common joking point among my friends (which is usually just used as a way to insult or make me mad). Still I don't like how most people think about the German race.
When you find out the truth,you will realise the Germans are the most noble people in the World.
Es gibt keine "Rasse". Nur Menschen, die in Deutschland wohnen. "Nazi belief" ist halt einfach nur Antisemitismus und das kann Antonia Rodrigez aus dem 2. Stock auch ganz gut.
@ashyclaret "The Germans" don't exist as a so called race. There are a*holes everywhere.
Thank you, David.
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Bless you David.
I feel you brother. Great talk. Very self controlled. I appreciate your logic.
I don't get it. Is he saying that the Palistinian people are a problem. Cause if he is saying that he should watch a documentary about the children of Palistinia who lost there parents during a bombing by Israel
More than likely a biased documentary is the only problem in my eyes.
Cory Robison Yep, because Zionists never make biased media.
disbsam333 Are you talking about the actual rockets Israel launches on Palestine or the homemade Palestinian rockets with a blast radius of about 50 cm?
disbsam333 stop falling for zionist propaganda
Take care and be strong David. A lot of people experience negative treatment, cause they are perceieved as different. I used to experience that a lot, growing up, and I know how hurtful it can be. You just have to survive in this world. You are you, no matter what people may think or say.
Davis is trash
Inside and out
As Christians or Jews because when you’re baptized, no matter what church it comes from. It automatically means that you are doing it or supposed to be doing it for the right reason.
Love you David!! Love your power and strength then and now. It's all cyclical, as you said in a different interview. It's coming around again.
Trained to fight people? After so many fights one would have to ask themselves, are you looking for a fight?
עם זה על כבוד עמנו, כן
Anyone else see the irony in David saying he reacts violently to people shoving their ideals down other people's throat, when he is trying to do the same thing to Roger Waters?
Yesss, very true!
Bless u
Agreed! F roger
Aramaic is a Semitic language as is Arabic. If you go to Ben Shapiro's timelines and you see all of the anti Arabic comments that he made over the years back when they used to not use orwellian language and actually just directly say their intentions were anti-arab; are you aware that Arabs are Semitic people, and anti-semitic is a term that was used in Europe to describe the people who were anti Middle Eastern which is why it applied to Jewish descendants in Europe. Anti-semitism in the Israeli contacts is the name of the game for the Jewish people as well as any Palestinian who dislikes the occupying Army because of the fact that their ethnicity is indigenous to the area
It's not true, antisemitism started in the 18th century that aluamism started, it has nothing to do with languages it is incorrect information. There is no such thing as Semitic languages, there is such a thing as hatred of Jews and everyone can hate Jews.
The word antisemitism was coined by WhilliamMar in 1880. It means judeophobia
I love the platform that you're given and how well you perform your conviction and your heart about the situation. You're smooth you're smart you're untouchable. You handled that so good man such a man. The way you hold yourself with confidence and security and wellness I can't not think that the other guy would be intimidated by just the way you stand up for what you believe in and how well you handle it.
Grandmother must have been Irene Ziztblad
dave is, uh, disturbed.
Theres so much to say here... But david is so correct on so many levels on this topic. I will just leave it as that.
We recognizes that Waters is using it as a political statement. But then he just goes to the extreme in claiming that it was because of anti-semitic motivations. I agree with a lot of what draiman says but when it comes to this topic, his bias overshadows his reasons. Not drastically, because he does concede somethings, but still overshadows.
Roger Waters has always been an anti-semitic. He has 300 million dollars and yet speaks about Jewish people with all their money(?). I feel like you and you are so eloquent.
Gotta love the conflation between anti-zionism and anti middle eastern racism . Every time you guys say anti-semitic are you aware that that term also applies to anti-arab sentiment? As Arabs are Semitic people
Ok listen... im a Palestinian... and i agree.. kind of... the star is a symbol of the holy religion not for israel... so ok yeah i understand, he is standing of for his religion not for israel.. and mr waters is disrespecting the religion.. so yeah he has a point..
תודה אחי. אני מודה לך
"which you should be condoning with every fiber of your being .." I think the word he was looking for here was "condemning" .. not "condoning." Arguments are always more effective when one knows the meaning of the words he chooses to use.
Well put. That guy Draiman is a rodeo clown, only he doesn't know it. He's nowhere as smart as he thinks he is.
Consequences...
Lawsuits ! Good !!! Make sure you got your facts straight before you "throw yourself" ! And physical altercation WHEN SOMEONE IS PHYSICALLY ALTERCATING ALREADY !!! you can argue your point but physicality is for defense only self or otherwise ! And moving pianos, etc
He's a jew? In this day and age, who ISN"T? Sheesh.
You really want to know? Here:
There's only around 15 million (in math, it's only 0.015 BILLION) judes/jews around the world, while mankind population is already up to 7.2 BILLION worldwide, and most percentage are: Christians, Muslims, and Buddhists.
Now you can see that judes population is only 0.208% of all humanity (notice that it's less than one percent, and even less than HALF percent).
Any more questions?
Who isn't? Everyone that's not.
God loves the Jews so do I ....we only need to read the word of God ..one day we will stand before God and we will give account for how we treat Israel and its people. We are told to pray for the peace of Jerusalem Psalm 122 vs 6 PRAY FOR THE PEACE OF JERUSALEM MY THEY PROSPER WHO LOVE YOU. GOD GAVE THE JEWS LAND READ EXODUS 23 VS 31 WHEN GOD GIVES NO MAN CAN TAKE IT AWAY ..GOD BLESS ISRAEL AND GOD HAS COMMANDED HIS BLESSING ON THIS LAND AND TO HIS CHOSEN PEOPLE... NO ONE CAN REVERSE IT... AMEN SO BE IT
Are you going to hell then?
Let a Jewish man get your wife pregnant so you can prove to us you're not Antisemitic.
I would like to see David Draiman beat the crap out of Roger Waters, for his racist, arrogant behavior
As much as I love Pink Floyd, I hate Roger Waters. I stand with Israel ✡
I mean, I appreciate that David answers many of the points around this issue (e.g. Israeli government not being equivalent to its people or the faith, creative licence, etc.) but his critical error was on the sticking point itself. "Those other symbols were used in the show, but not on the pig. Not on the pig." Yes, they were, Google image search. I saw it myself at the show. The hammer-and-sickle, US $ sign, the cross, and major corporate logos like Shell and Mercedes-Benz, the wall hammers (of course), various statements, etc. While inelegant, this is still textbook artistic questioning of symbols *used for oppression* (say, Palestinian plight David mentions in passing, but I'd think their children blowing up is a more pressing issue than debating symbols on a pig) rather than their *original meaning* and other uses. Just today I saw pictures of Church protesters rubbing their junk on my religious symbol that is a couple millennia old. Do they hate me or my faith? Highly doubt it; they have an issue to pick with the Church that I don't necessary agree with but understand. Sorry, David, the ADL was right to err on intellectual honesty and creative expression rather than crying wolf. Roger's father died fighting the Nazis and the former's sorrowful pride in the latter's principles (i.e. giving up his pacifism to fight true antisemitism in its most violent form) is in many ways his emotional core. Roger tears up in interviews saying he wants to fight for those suffering from violence today. This suggests being driven by love, not hate. That David talks about engaging in violence here also doesn't bode well for his case.
Impressive!!! You analyzed it so fabulously.
One of the best written comments I've ever read!
No vote, no attack but understanding - for BOTH SIDES ... wow!
When a person we adore or love, criticizes something that is close to our hearts, it hurts!
Nevertheless, it remains the person we love and for this reason he has the right to criticize this too.
Here in Germany, a book has been published with the title: Determined by others (Fremdbestimmt)
120 Years of Lies and Deception, by Thorsten Schulte.
Schulte does not simply come up with a story about a story: he has intensively studied sources - from original sources, not from translations. Almost 1000 footnotes speak for themselves.
(If it were possible, I would send it to David!
I am convinced that if he knew these backgrounds, his worldview would be upside down.)
www.fremdbestimmt.com/
I wish more people listen so carefully and comment so objectively (like you!) - instead of further splitting.
We have to understand:
There are no bad countries, there are only bad people!
We are a human family!
Take care of yourself and stay healthy!!!
The State of Israel has committed 271 human right abuses since WW2. How many Jews are complaining?
Right
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love you brother
Why is he always like that. : /
Dude is packed ready to throw down, dissidents best be ready for the heat coming your way.
you do realize he almost literally stated that Roger Waters didn't have to censor his show?
When you censor your self it's not a censorship but an integrity.
And that he did demand!
Very well said. Governments and their policies are one thing, a country's people are another.
I don't agree with all of America's policies and I am American.
I generally disagree with right-wing policies because they tend to be authoritarian or corporatist and also warmongery.
Israel has a right-wing government. I don't like what the government is doing to the Palestinians, and I don't like what Hezbollah is doing either, but I love the Jewish people and the Palestinian people.
I hope David made amends with Roger after Roger explained the pig. It hurts to see some of your favorite musicians conflicted against each other.
1227CGanimated Yet you take sides when you said it hurts to see them conflicted but hope one bows to the other because of an explanation? This statement is very contradictory.
@@leonridao1618 Genocide is not right my man. Even though it's acceptable in your holy book.
BEAST IS A BEAUTIFUL MAN
Condemning not condoning.