Dressing Like a Pakistani in Lahore 🇵🇰
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- I visited the Anarkali market in the old town of Lahore, Pakistan.
My mission was to find a nice shalwar kameez, the traditional local dress that Pakistani men wear.
I thought it would be easy to find in the bazaar, but I struggled to find it and also struggled with the traffic. The area is chaotic, with pedestrians having to fight against vehicles to move down the street.
Some friendly locals told me that I was looking for a shalwar kameez in the wrong part of the bazaar. I was in Old Anarkali and they told me I'd find traditional clothing in the New Anarkali Bazaar.
I was headed towards the New Anarkali market area when a Lahori policeman saw me and invited me for lunch. He and his colleague ordered a bunch of local food from a street side stall and we sat there, having some banter and enjoy the delicious desi food.
Two plates of Golgappa (Pani Puri) were brought to the table. The policemen were really keen to see how a foreigner would manage eating this local street food. Fortunately, it was not my first time eating this snack. Although, the puris (fried bread balls) were very big and the pani (water) was extremely spicy, so I did still struggle a little bit.
We also ate fruit salad, or as they called it 'Pakistani Salad'. It was a bowl full of energy with all sorts of fresh fruits and nuts in there, covered in syrup. There were so many ingredients. There were kiwi, grapes, pomegranate seeds, pineapple, banana, dates and almonds. And probably more that I didn't notice.
After eating that I was full of energy to go exploring in the market.
Straight away a sunglasses vendor approached me with a handful of knockoff shades. I tried a few and liked them all, so I bought all three of them. My favourites were the fake Ray-Bans, which looked authentic and even came in a case.
I finally made my way into New Anarkali, to look for a salwar kameez.
In market areas in Pakistan and India, they are usually split up into sections, so once you find the item you're looking for, there will be dozens of shops selling the same type of stuff right beside it, but you likely won't find that item at all elsewhere in the market.
Fortunately I came across a bunch of shops selling traditional wear and one with the prices clearly market. 1,500 PKR ($8 USD) for the shalwar kameez, top and bottoms, seemed like a good deal to me.
The shop was operated by a bunch of young guys, all of whom were wearing American style clothes. I ended up being the only one there who was wearing the traditional Pakistani clothing.
The shalwar kameez that I bought did feel over-sized and quite loose, but at least it felt comfortable to walk around in. Perhaps one day I'll spend a bit more money and get one tailored.
Market hunting makes me thirsty, so after my successful purchase I went searing for the local juice vendors. I visited one guy who makes orange juice and another who does pomegranate.
0:00 Old Anarkali
4:13 Police Invite Me To Eat
8:40 Pakistani Pani Puri
12:33 Pakistani Fruit Salad
14:21 Fake Ray-Ban Seller
21:40 Shalwar Kameez
31:45 Fresh Orange Juice
36:29 Fresh Pomegranate Juice
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Thank you to Mr Usman, Lahore Policeman for inviting me to eat with him and showing me the best of Pakistani hospitality.
What do you guys think about my new outfit?
(Filmed before Ramadan.)
Bro come kashmir in India i will see u all kashmir
Ayyy
Nice Outfit
Its so funny when people treat him like alien from other planet
Loved your new outfit amigo! By the way, it was so lovely to see you eating with these kind cops! ...Love your videos. I hope someday you can also visit the Spanish speaking countries and South America! Chile, Argentina, Brazil and other Spanish speaking countries such as Mexico, Colombia , Spain etc ☺😀
If someone asked me “what are you?”, I’d probably spend the rest of the day pondering my existence.
Dave Wilkinson😀
He wants to say what are doing?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
But he answered spontaneously as he didn't wonder on the type of question.
@@muhammadhuzaifaiqbal551 He did, but he is not me!
He was ill after eating the pani puri last time but still ate it again probably to show respect, that’s so sweet
You are a kind man, really love the positive vibes! May Allah(SWT) guide us all and keep us on the righteous path
Dale you are now my favorite travel vlogger.
Lots of channels are 80% walking around and talking to the camera, your videos are filled to the brim with adventure and interesting conversations with the amazing locals!
Totally agree
Motorist- "What are you?"
Dale- "I am a man!"
Why did this make me laugh so hard! 🤣
Hahaa he want to say where you want to do
Where?
2:37
🤣🤣🤣🤣🇵🇰
Hahah Awesm answer by dale 😂
hats off for you dale. Usually many vlogger doesn't want to interract with random people and having conversation with it. but you are very different. the new type tourist vlogger i think lol. the conversation with the local is very very hillarious. as a person who living in third world country ( indonesia ), thank you for exploring many third world country and shown it to the world. respect
😂😂😂😂😂😂
Watching that poor sunglasses man was hilarious. He first said just give whatever you feel is appropriate and take them, then was so frustrated trying to tell you that it was 1,500 for the three but neither of you were understanding each other so then the police man came and he gave you another 100 rupees discount from the police man’s pressure 😂
Oh, was the masked person standing to Dale's left a police officer? So interesting. I was curious why strangers came to watch him talk about glasses.
What I really love with Dale, is how humble and kind he is. He makes people show their best sides! Awesome video m8!
Ikr ❤️
WOW BECAREFUL SIR ITS VERY DANGEROUS ! I WILL NEVER GO TO PAKISTAN 😠😠😠! THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN AND WE HAVE TOILET EVERYWHERE 🤗🇮🇳 I KNOW MANY PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH MY SUPER CLEAN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
Hahahaha jock of the year... clean 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@indiasuperclean6969 😂😂😂😂💀
@@indiasuperclean6969 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 India is very clean.
The way you're friendly yet careful enough to not get scammed yet open enough to have so many amazing conversations with a foreign local is a skill that is just amazing 👌
Well he has got some experience
Exceptional hospitality from the great people of Pakistan, fantastic, so busy but so friendly
Love how the copper just met him and invited him to lunch I love locals like this!
That outfit looks mad comfortable. It's nice seeing the honest and pure interactions of different peoples, good stuff.
Yeah u should also try shalwar kameez if you haven't it's really comfy and cool
Yep especially tailored shalwar kameez it's very comfortable
Can confirm. Its so comfy and light.
Its only good for warm climate
Everything was fine but that glasses 👓 guy who sold him 3 for 1200. Those fake branded glasses each worth less than 100.
Awww, Dale is so kind, offering everyone juice. 😂
Dale is a spy and the cop knew this
And what about Pakistani hospitality???
They were drinking from the same cup 😂
@@Thetruth1__ that's the only thing that would freak me out, I don't even drink after my family from the same cup
Viktor olasz you have your own opinion but I thinks it's look good if you drink in same glass which other used
The people are so friendly and always want to help, looks like a fun time walking around hanging with the locals.
The fact that you enjoy this so much makes your videos feel so natural and real unlike many other vloggers, hats off man
WOW BECAREFUL SIR ITS VERY DANGEROUS ! I WILL NEVER GO TO PAKISTAN 😠😠😠! THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN AND WE HAVE TOILET EVERYWHERE 🤗🇮🇳 I KNOW MANY PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH MY SUPER CLEAN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969 hey man, I love India too, but face the fact, it's not super clean. And, remember, the Pakistanis are our brothers. We used to live in the same country before 1947. So, don't hate them just because of the politics being played by the governments of our countries.
You are making Indians look dumb by going on this rant.
@@indiasuperclean6969 Lol. Troll account detected.
@@ruhandave2 TBH wise people dont get fool by these low minded people. we respect indians same as you do , so no need to worry that we will change our view over some dumb comment on internet ,
@@indiasuperclean6969 lol
💪🤍 The children looking into the camera is pure loveliness!
No
@@Ahmed_Abid He's a Scottish person (the people with checked skirts and piper bands.
@@AliAhmed-ve5xl why do South Asians brag about there being white people in South Asia but never about black people being from there?
That children are so cute and funny. Specially when Dale drink juice while make a round camera shot. They laughing and happy with Dale
Every time dale “tanks” a drink he feels like it’s a amazing feat and always looks around right after to see who’s looking 😂😂
that "police officer" is hella sketchy lol
Maybe he is just camera shy also English is hard
Fair play to you mate, big respect, also love you are proving stereotypes wrong 💪
WOW BECAREFUL SIR ITS VERY DANGEROUS ! I WILL NEVER GO TO PAKISTAN 😠😠😠! THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN AND WE HAVE TOILET EVERYWHERE 🤗🇮🇳 I KNOW MANY PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH MY SUPER CLEAN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969 Abdul asli I'd se aao ,abhi tumse koi kagaz nhi mangega
@@indiasuperclean6969 Pakistan ki ammi ki aankh
@@indiasuperclean6969 ye bakchodi krke kya milta hai ?
@@indiasuperclean6969 here comes the bot who is ashamed to reveal his real country 😂😂and doesn't have any work other than spamming
The energy you share with the locals is awesome!
I am a Pakistani and I love how you are showing our country ❤️🇵🇰
The hospitality, friendliness & warmness of the Pakistani people, never ceases to amaze me!
Pakistan people as usual friendly and welcoming people. Thank you for being nice to tourists.
Even in India tooo
@Spidy'sGucciBag hmmm
Pak hospitality is so awesome, Dale is very friendly and humble, Love from 🇮🇳
No India pls.
Thanks much appreciated
@@xyberdude8911 :)
What a kind man that you are Dale. Im saying this from the bottom of my heart
Found your videos on Facebook and now I’m addicted to your content. Keep up the content from Pakistan! I love the interactions you make with each person
I REALLY LOVE YOUR HONESTY AND THE LOVE TOWARDS LOCALS 🇵🇰😍
Don’t worry Dale you’re not alone because sometimes I make a mess too whenever I eat pani puri lol 😂 it happens man no one’s perfect in the world you just have to be best person you can be 😀😀🥹🥹
There was nothing to explain lol
I would cry if I found myself with such hospitality like in this country, definitely I'm going to visit Pakistan, cheers from PA 🇵🇦
Avoid that beach in karachi😀.
@stephanie Brittney how were they?
Is anibal Cortes (Rio)
Lived in your country?
@stephanie Brittney no hate but you are actually correct, the cops were actually interrogating him by seeing if he gets nervous around them and by knowing that they are looking for terrorists, its sad but truth and its necessary
You are Indian almost the same
Dale is like the most active and patient vlogger ive ever seen fr
This is the 3rd vlog of your's I'm watching in a row without skipping. I can safely say that you are an Honest vlogger Dale. U got a new subscriber :) BTW that Goggles seller is a good man❤ Hope u get to meet such nice people at every place u go.🤗
Yes, Dale is very frankly, that's why we doesn't able skip him
Same, I discovered him 3 days ago and can't stop watching his vlogs🥺
I love lots of channels, but Dale's is particularly addicting. Binge-able. It's the heroin of channels. Nice tiger shirt btw, rawr!! 🐯 ;)
WOW BECAREFUL ITS VERY DANGEROUS ! I WILL NEVER GO TO PAKISTAN 😠😠😠! THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN AND WE HAVE TOILET EVERYWHERE 🤗🇮🇳 I KNOW MANY PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH MY SUPER CLEAN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@@indiasuperclean6969 Who do you think you're kidding?
the police officer is so friendly. never seen such friendly officers anywhere in the world before
Irunthalum oru niyayam venama odane world nu solirathu.
@@neptunev0478 எந்த போலீஸ் இந்த காலத்தில் உணவு வாங்கி கொடுப்பார்? மக்களிடம் உள்ள காசை அபேஸ் பண்ண முடியுமானு பார்ப்பார்கள். நான் யூரோப் உள்பட பல கண்டங்களுக்கு சென்றுள்ளேன். அதனால் உலகத்தை பற்றி சிறிய அனுபவம் உண்டு
@@user-nq2js8ng4t bro asia la most police foreigners a olunga than treat panvanga na paatha varaikum. aana avunga makkal ta lanjam vanguvanga. Namma police um apdi than.
Spy interrogation
@@AyanAli-py7ci oh why? Due to pak govt change? Or its always like that?
You're always welcome to Pakistan 🇵🇰. The beautiful skies with grassy greenland is wanting for the seekers of natures beauty. I hope you'll have best time here. (HuzaifahTahir,lahore)
That police man was thinking that cia sent you for spying 💀
Seems so hahaha
What a nice chap dale is, buys juice for anybody 👏🤝. He's class
These videos fly by when I’m watching, I feel so immersed in the places you go without being there. I love that the people of Pakistan want to make you feel welcome and show you their country. We really have so much to learn when it comes to embracing tourists in the west.
Nearly at one million subscribers! Congratulations, I started watching this channel a while ago and every single video is a treat mate!
Have a great traveling in Lahore.
Always excited to see you!!
Ty
This is so PRICELESS...PAKISTAN PEOPLE SO FRENDLY AND BEAUTIFUL IN THE WORLD....SO UNIQUE COUNTRY...I LOVEDDDDD IT...YOU ARE SO LUCKY TO BE THERE
Nice to see you exit Anarkali and cross over into lahori gate old walled city. The city is really about children and families. I'm waiting for you to do a vlog on Ramadan, iftar etc as you can hear in background the Azan and call to prayer. Lahore is a different place during Ramadan where there is literally free food on the street everyday where everyone sits and shares and eats together at Iftar time.
The glasses man was saying to you that how much you think is right you should give him that's so much generous of him ❤❤
I know.. you don’t see a lot of that these day. Props to him
@@saarthak28 its because they were so cheap probably cost 100 rupees each and he took 1200 from him which could have been his whole day's sale
exactly, they do that because they know you will overestimate the value@@Deathincarnait
Stumbled across your channel and your quickly becoming my favourite YT channel! Literally binge watching all your vids. 😜
Dale is Real OG
@stephanie Brittney agent...my ass
@stephanie Brittney stop LYING!!!
@stephanie Brittney agent never shows their faces to public at any cost. He is just a nice vlogger.
@stephanie Brittney stop writing nonsense under every comment, you can clearly see from the past 4 years that dale has been travelling non-stop while documenting it, so how could he possibly be an officer
@stephanie Brittney im an agent indian haahaha
Hi Dale, loved this video, the kids were asking each other if they understood you and when you were drinking the juice they were telling you to breathe as you practically inhaled it haha, so sweet. Ps you looked great in the Salwar kameez!
Wooh.... great bro...U are so kindhearted for us
I really enjoyed watching these Pakistan series, very nice people there and wow you were brave on those roads, they look scary to cross 😱
The #Dale Philip... Combo of Humbleness, Kindness, Simplicity, Innocence and Charming attitude! 🌿✨🥂🖤🤍🌈
Hey Dale and everyone who is buying counterfeit sunglasses. Please be careful with these. We are using sunglasses when it is too bright outside but this is not the only reason. You have to protect your eyes from UVA and UVB rays. Proper sunglasses have UV protection layers built into the lens as well as polarization to restrict reflecting light coming into your eyes which can cause photokeratitis. These counterfeit glasses most probably don't have any of these protections. Maybe verify it at an optical shop where they have UV light meter. The issue here is that when you put on these sunglasses it will darken everything and your pupils will naturally react to the darkened environment and will open more to let more light in. With this effect also more UVA and UVB radiation will reach into your eyes so essentially you might get more UV rays than if you had no sunglasses on.
Yeah also supports black market
@@babagandu grey market need money to 😁
Many of these cheap glasses of similar quality are sold in optic shops too. Only if we buy a frame and order a specific lens, then the sunglasses are made legitimately, with the type of lens ordered. Otherwise premade stuff is the same. You can just pay a bunch of more money to buy these same glasses or you can get them made on order, which is pretty expensive for the common public here, often. So they resort to the cheaper option, unless a person needs it for a certain problem.
Dear Dale,alle your videos,all your journeys fill my heart with joy.God bless you and stay healthy!
Too friendly and hospitable people despite the difficult and struggling life, even the policeman took him to the restaurant - greetings from Yemen to Pakistani brothers
The way dale handles everything is interesting, I have never seen him loosing his temper 👍 Good work dale
Almost To Get 1 Million Subscribers Soon 👍👍
Great Job Dale 🇮🇩🏴
Pakistan ZINDABAD ✊🇵🇰✊
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Love to Indonesia as well. I always see some Indonesian people watching Pakistan vlogs. I also have an Indonesian friend.
this man travels with so much confidence i love it
Been binge watching your videos today!! Fantastic vlogs really enjoy watching your adventures dale.
Great to see you dale in Pakistan. You're our guest we will always give you a warm welcome whenever you'll come to Pakistan. More power to your bro 🇵🇰❤🤝🏻
The gesture from the policeman was so warm and the way Dale mixed up with the people around him in the Pakistani get up . This lad never fails to surprise us ❤️❤️
These guys are not police man these are spy aur in other words romenurdu (jasoos)
@@hassantech1862 What do you mean spy? They are police no? Or ISI?
@@MikeyJoJo6385 not isi but Pakistan have several agents and agencies ISI is not for galia kucha it is for international matters
@@hassantech1862 they were acting very suspicious
@@AR-il7gn Yeah you right
Thank you so much for visiting our hometown and showing a good image of Pakistan to others. You are very nice and decent person, looking beautiful in Pakistani dress.
My favorite vloggers now by far,, I'd like the wey you thread each person and kindness as well
Divided by Radcliffe line, United Dale Philip channel.
Lots of love to Pakistan, from India.
Great Vlogging bro. Love the Content. You are a very Generous guy. Enjoy Exploring Pakistan and be safe.🇨🇦👍👌😁👍
Very wholesome. You can imagine the memories the people he encountered will carry.
U are very kind man i am seeing from last 4years in Facebook all the best 💥
This is the last video I watch for today before I sleep. You make us smile Dale!❤️😁👍🏾
10:28 - that’s what she said.
Then you must have a small one 🤣
Excellent vlog ,keep up the good work dale
I'm loving this series Dale! The people are either extremely kind, and generous, or they see your ghost white appearance, and have the look of astonishment, fear, or surprise. 😁👍✌
They think he is a spy
Randomly found your videos and now started loving to watch them 😍
The glasses seller was an honest man
So your memory is very sharp, you remembered everything specially the golgappa. Thats really nice of you Dale😊
Wonderful....so today i visited lahore market and have orange juice,golgappa,fruit chat and anar juice with dale...what a satisfaction..thnx dale...
“what are you” the best conversation i ever heard haha 😂
Wow, that “what are you” really caught me off guard! I can't stop laughing 😂🤣😂 to ask such a deep question in the middle of traffic 😂🤣😂🤣😅
Oh that's Great welcome ☺️☺️ welcome to Pakistan but i am in Cyprus.
People really like Pakistan everywhere and thanks To All respected people.....
I'm enjoying this video of yours sir dale. This video is a complete package. It contains friendliness like talking to pakistani people. comedy like “it's a little bit big I think, Do you think it's perfect? I don't know man I feel like I'm wearing a tent” (LOL 😂) and culture like introducing their traditional dress/clothes to us. Inshort it's a perfect video. You deserve to get 1 million subscribers sir.
29:40 ... Punjabi guys always Punjabi.... He advise his friend to tie the knot so hard that he could not open for lifetime 😂😂😂😂😂.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fantastic! It's just like a fabulous day out without paying to go to Lahore itself...
Happy to see your close to 1 million, much love
Keep up the great work Dale. Safe travels brother
Watching your videos makes one feel like they're actually there...the voices, the faces, the conversations...🙏🏼😫❤️
That little boy in the pomegranate juice stall was so cute yet handsome😍
What I like more about Dale's videos is, his videos are original without too much edit. He just roams and shoots videos.
Hi Dale 👋🏻 an other great video mate 👌🏻 your turning in to a super star over there Pakistan 🇵🇰 , seen nice and friendly towards you 👌🏻 stay safe mate ❤️💙🏴
WOW BECAREFUL SIR ITS VERY DANGEROUS ! I WILL NEVER GO TO PAKISTAN 😠😠😠! THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳 THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD , WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN AND WE HAVE TOILET EVERYWHERE 🤗🇮🇳 I KNOW MANY PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH MY SUPER CLEAN INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
Visiter are less so theybamazed see foreigners 😌
@@indiasuperclean6969 That's just cringe dude everyone knows who hates India most & you're just disrespecting Pakistan by doing this.
@@indiasuperclean6969 😂😂😂😂
@@indiasuperclean6969 I am pretty sure you are not even Indian.Just trolling Indians and making us look bad😐
Random guy at 2:37, "what are you ?"
"I am a man looking for salwar kameez"
Dale,you look good when wearing the Pakistani outfit😍 you always know when you will share your blessings,God bless you and protect you wherever you go🥰🥰🥰
They were asking him about pakistani girls 😂😂😂😂and saying Pakistani girls are brilliant in every field 👏😊❤ .I really like his views about women.
Pakistan zindabad 🇵🇰
Almost at 1m. Proud to have been on this journey with you since 50k mark
Respect to you dale… getting those poor kids a juice good on you man ❤️
Dale you’re funny as fuck dude, officially my favorite vlogger now by far. It’s a shame that people don’t understand most of your jokes but it somehow makes everything funnier
Btw all your jokes would be a HUGE HIT with the locals because they have the same exact sense of humor. Still somehow funnier with them not understanding though lol
Very nice video 👌 policemen were good and three men helping you wearing sherwani thats nice 👌😊
Firstly, i love your long videos. Secondly, you are so kind Dale. You'd always offer juice to someone before actually ordering for yourself shows how well your upbringing was. I'm so touched with this gesture of yours. And yes, you look very handsome in this shalwar kameez 👍.. looking forward for more such videos.
Dale is a spy
The cop knows
Your reply to “What are you” was too funny 🤣
thanks for sharing Dale Philip
You look like a younger better looking version of John Barrowman. The resemblance is incredible, I'd bet you probably share an ancestor. Just discovered this channel but I'm already impressed. Keep up the good work and stay safe mate. All the best.
Congratulations 🎉🥳👏 in advance for 1,000,000 subscribers.
Lots of love from India.
No dale the people at 43:59 were not laughing at you they were laughing at the uncle ❤
Why
@@Urdulove1314 they were joking about his work
@@Urdulove1314 this person is an American spy from Scotland
@@AyanAli-py7ci hehehe. Spies never make videos and not show their faces to public like this
@@Urdulove1314 yes they do, they just do not admit they're spies
Lawrence of Arabia was a famous spy who destroyed the Ottomans indirectly
One of the braviest people iv ever seen, going to a place like this alone is crazy
"what are you"
Made me mad laughing 🤣
I laughed so hard when I saw the boss sleeping on the floor at the one store lol your channel is so awesome man.
Such hospitable men and happy friendly boys. I can see how lovely Pakistan really is. I have always wanted a shalwar kameez and it is only €7 which is unbelievable. Unfortunately they are unavailable in my Spanish town.
Come to India ❤️
@@Saiffenkhan-3 I wish.
Go to a Taylor, I'm sure they can make it. Or search online they sell. Or maybe I come to Spain and bring.
@@babagandu Come to Spain!
Yeah he got a good deal there. Even with the sunglasses it was genuine price. The street vendors do not make a lot of money - so it is best to give them a bit extra.