The Psychology Behind Arab Self Identification in Morocco.
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2022
- This short video explains why some Moroccans are Adamant that they are Arab. The video doesn't explain all the reasons but it touches upon some of the main reasons some abandon their heritage.
Please keep sharing this truth! Amazigh culture is the treasure of North Africa! Be proud to be Amazigh!!!!!Cultural diversity makes the world a richer place
thank you for both speaking and teaching the truth!
So very well put. Tanmert
Great video.👌🏼
Thank you for sharing.🌹
Good to see you here Laila, thanks for watching
I do totally agree, I am grateful to see such a video. Please make more videos 🇲🇦❤️🍁
Thanks you, I am currently taking a break from making videos...sometimes it gets overwhelming with all the negative comments.
@@jamalbenhamou I'm suhsaharian and I'm glad to see you guys fighting for your rights, you are the indigenous people of north, north belong to you. Sadly we are Africans 😂 Everyone invade us. But keep struggling god is big. I thought north Africans are ashamed to be Africans because they're in the same continent with us but I'm glad to see I'm mistaken. Your voice must sound louder so more can hear you, Africa must unite against all kind of dominations, this land belong to the native people never to foreigners.
@@bakarybadjunkudjassisanca849 Subsaharians also had many many empires and civilizations, I dont even know if they teach that in the rest of Africa.
Great speech as always. Ayyuz a gma
Great video ayuma ♓️♓️♓️♓️♓️💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🙏🙏🙏🙏
Thank you sir
Azul Agma ! Je ne suis pas trop Anglophone, peux-tu faire des vidéos en français s’il te plaît ? (sinon mettre des sous-titres en Français du tu ne peux pas faire de vidéos en Français) Thanmirth ih agma n’lmaghriv ! Nek d’aqvayli n’ldzayer 🇩🇿 !
Bonjour et merci d'avoir regardé ma vidéo. Malheureusement, je ne fais que des vidéos en anglais, et les traduire en français prendra aussi trop de temps. Merci d'accepter mes excuses
When exactly did the arab identity start to take hold in morroco, when did majority of people in north africa really start to call themselves arabs ? Was it 13th century, 14th, 16th , or just récent in the 20th? For example I heard the Jebela people arabised themselves in the 10th century
Different regions Arabized in different times, the transition was slow as people did not necessarily stop speaking Tamazight right away…just like many ImaIghen in Morocco, you find most of them speak Tamazight as well as Derija. It is not accurate that the Jbala were Arabized in the 10th century their arabization continued way until the 15th century. Also the fact that refugees from Al Andalus settled in many of those regions speeded the arabization which can be seen in how their dialect is a bit different from other regions. Building roads, highways and brining electricity to some places in the Atlas Mountains for example is rapidly influencing how people speak Tamazight…I am pretty sure some of those villages will consider themselves Arabs in the next 100-200 years from now.
Its interesting how this happened, do you know of any good books that talk about this history ? Also I heard the Almohads , killed the amazigh tribes in the casablanca, rabat, doukkala région and settled arab tribes there ? Is this true ?
@@pranavjulapally2470 I will provide some as soon as I get back from a trip
Looking forward to them thank you
@@pranavjulapally2470 almohads was an amazigh dinasty, why would they kill their brothers?
Would you say African identity isn’t prevalent in Maghreban population groups ?
It depends on what you mean by African Identity. To us African Identity is Amazigh ( Berber) identity.
If you think that Arabs are “stealthy” changing NA culture why don’t you change your name from Arabic name to Amazighs name? Not attacking you just curious?
And if the Arabs are changing the culture of North Africa or forced their religion onto them. Why did the Amazighs still used still used Arabic language, name and even took Islam as their own religion after they took parts of the area back from the Arabs in 1040Ad and even named it an Arabic name Almoravid empire….it to me seems like they wanted the Arabic culture and religion more then their own culture. Even when the French invaded NA the took almost all of North Africa except for kabylia for 30 years, the French divide Arabs and Amazighs and looked at Amazighs as more “European” and wanted them to be more of a “colonial partners” and taught them French but still the Amazighs revolted with the Arabs against them and supported the Arab Algerian revolution movement in 19th century.
1) I can change my name, but every time I fill out any application I will for the rest of my life fill out separate forms about the fact that I had a previous name. Very annoying.
2) Your question assumes that they took Arab names, adopted Islam and Spoke Arabic willingly. That is wrong, those who came in contact with the invaders were forced to convert, those who converted automatically took Arab names, and to be accepted you had to learn Arabic, especially that speaking Arabic, becoming a Muslim and having an Arab name made you qualify for leadership during the early invasion of the Umayyads. Also you need to understand that the Almohad who were a an Amazigh empire were also religious fanatics who forced Islam and encouraged learning Arabic because they perceived it to be holy, prestigious......
To understand this, Many North Africans in France for example, never learn any Tamazight or even Moroccan Darija, and those who have Muhammed as their name go by Mo because they don't want to be recognized as Muslims since their ethnicity, religious background causes them be discriminated against. The same thing happened to early Muslims who are Amazigh, Kurds, Persians, Turks...
You are also making a mistake when you say" devided between Amazigh and Arabs" you are again assuming that those who did not speak Tamazight were Arabs. France definitely thought there were Arabs and Amazigh, all that is is in Algeria many already became Arabized by the 18 century. They are just Amazigh who felt like being an Arab made authentic Muslims. It happens all the time in Morocco. Family does't teach their kids Tamazight, their children see themselves less Amazigh by the time they have children which now are grandchildren, they start considering themselves as Arabs. I can't tell you how many people I went to school with who claimed to be Arabs only to see their grandparents speaking Tamazight....and that is sir what the evolution of identity in North Africa.
Thank you
@@jamalbenhamousadly this is how amazigh become arabized over the years, but i have witnessed arabization in short period of time, i'm from an amazigh tribe in morocco that doesn't consider arabized but i can assure you that it's now semi-arabized, my family comes from a village most of it's people were fluent in tamazight yet they speak also darija and my grand mother is from the mountains where they don't speak any darija so when she married my grand father (who is fluent in both) they settled in the village and and their children grew up speaking tamazight at home but outside they spoke both, and i remember when i was young hearing my grandparents talking so harmoniously i was telling them one day i'm gonna learn it because my dad never teaches me, but after years my grandpa died and so did her sisters and the eldest people in the village who were speaking both tamazight and darija and she left alone with a new generation with her broken darija every time she speaks people make fun of her
I promised myself to learn my mother language and i started 3 years ago i'm not fluent yet but still trying at least it makes my grandma happy and proud now while she still alive 🙏🏻
Real Berbers are only from the mountains(Atlas, Anti-Atlas, Jbala)
The Dakhilia are anything but Berber, they got heavly mixed with the Banu Hilal Arabs(even if they have E-M81)
If you use your brain even for a little bit you will realize that they are the same people who have slowly stop using Tamazight...you never met any one who said their parents speak Berber but they dont? never met any People there who just moved from the mountains? not very difficult to use your brain. The Band Hilal Minority melted in the Amazigh Majority when they first arrived....think of that again, they melted because they can't be a majority in the land of the Amazigh....thats why Even those who claim are Arabs usually just have less than 10% Arab in their DNA...see learn how to use your brain, learn how to think critically..it's 2022 knowledge is free.
@@jamalbenhamou The only accurate kind of DNA testing is haplogroup tests or Y-DNA testing. However many people misundertsand haplogroup testing, they automatically think if someone has haplogroup E-M81 he is a Berber or if he has J1c he is a Arab, but thats untrue. Non Berbers can also have haplogroup E-M81, many Berbers nowdays have haplogroup G and many Arabs have other haplogroups like haplogroup T, this has to do with neolithic culture migrations, many Berbers have haplogroup G because in the neolithic period the early European farmers mixed with our ancestors( the Iberomaurusian and Capsian Culture ), same story for the Arabs, if a Arab doesn't have haplogroup J1c it doesnt mean he is not of Arab origin, it's most likely that he got his haplogroup from the neolithic period.
By the way mixed people who aren't pure bredded Berbers can also have haplogroup E-M81 but it still doens't make them Berber because their origin is still mixed and they are still mixed people.
Ancestory DNA testing is very inaccurate, have you ever wonderd why DNA companies show different results from each other, also if you gonna upload your results into Gedmatch your results will be come out differnetly, if you have 90% so called north african dna it can be 40% if you upload it on Gedmatch. Plus that way of DNA testing goes no more futher than 600 years in most companies, in the Myheritage, 23andme, DNA ancestry database it counts the Banu Hilal genome as North African same for the Punic genome.
The only way to figure out who is Berber and who is not, is by reading academic antropologic books written by well known educated Antropologic academic scholars and medieval scholars like Ibn Khaldun, Al-Bakri, Leo Africanus, Gabriel Camps, Carleton Coon, David Hart etc.
Good books to read
"All volumes of Villes et tribus du maroc"
"Tribal sociaty of rural Morocco"
"Tribes of the Rif"
"Ait Waryagher of the Moroccan Rif"
"Muslim conquest and settlement of North Africa and Spain"
"Les Archs tribus berbères de Kabylie"
"Muqqadimah"
"Description of Africa"
As a Berber myself, it's indeed a fact that the majority of North Africans aren't Berber but Arab, Kouloughli, Andalusian, mixed or Black.
Only a minority is true Berber, but it's also a fact that some pure Arabised Berber tribes do exist like the Ghiata of Morocco and the Ouresenis & Trara tribes of Algeria they speak Arabic but are not Arabs. It's also a fact that Berberised Arab clans and tribes exist, a big part of the Riffian people are of Arab origin but are Berberised, like the Imbraten sub tribe of the Ait Waryagher tribe and the Igarbiyen sub tribe of the Ait Touzine tribe. All Kabyles are pure bred Berbers(not of European origin), except for the Marabout Kabyles who are of Arab origin and some Kabylised villages and clans in the Boumedres area who are of Kouloughli origin.
P.S i forgot to say the most accurate haplogroup conducted in Morocco showed on average that 56% of the population has haplogroup 56%
Search: "haplogroup 56% Morocco" the result is a pdf document
@@jamalbenhamou If you would read histroy, you would know that the Almohad Berbers settled the Arab tribes in the Dakhilia region and wiped out the Barghwata Berbers.
Also todays Doukkala aren't Berbers, the Arabs who settled the Doukkala region took over the name "Doukkala" from the Berbers who lived their before.
Because the Berber Doukkala confederation was devided in the following tribes:
Regraga, Bani-Dghoug, Bani-Maguer, Mouchtaraia, Hazmir, Senhaja
And todays Arab Doukkala are devided in the following tribes: Oulad Bou Aziz, Oulad Amar, Oulad Amran, El Aouat, Oulad Frej, El Haouzia, Oulad Bouzerrara
@@jamalbenhamou even the 10 per cent arab DNA is too much. seriously not even 0.001 percent arab dna ruins in their blood
@@Revitalization4241 God you're such an arab wannabe, that is crazy. You know you're not privilged to go to heaven cause you proove that you're arab ? wayloune limane inetassaba mine ghayri ajdadihi. May allah heal my people from their stockolm syndrom and trouble identity ... it is gonna be hard when you realize that even egyptians think themselves as arabs