SOCIETY OF THE SNOW Netflix VS True Story & Movie Review
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- čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
- I review, breakdown and explain Society Of The Snow. I discuss the 2024 Netflix movie and compare it to the real events that happened in the 1972 Flight 571 crash. I react to the similarities, differences, the plane crash, the characters such as Numa, Nando and Roberto whilst also looking into the true story.
00:00 Intro
00:41 Society Of The Snow Review
05:18 Society Of The Snow True Story
07:53 The Permission To Use Their Bodies
09:07 The Avalanche
10:08 Outro
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This film definitely took me by surprise and was really something! What did you think of the movie? Let me know your thoughts below!
I saw the earlier film on this tragic incident, 1993's 'Alive', when it came out. It was fantastic; Ethan Hawke being particularly effective in it, as 'Nando'. I've yet to see this new version of the story, but I've certainly heard some good reviews.
I liked Alive and the documentary of the Society of the Snow, and the old film of Canessa's being interviewed when they found help and more receant interviews by Canessa and Coche Iriarte and Carlitos Paez. They gave a better idea of the extraordinary community and spiritual and miraculous aspects of it, as other much harder elements of hardship and survival. Thus many important parts missing.
@@peaceandlove544 I remember their point of view; that this was a sort of 'communion'. (I can't remember if that was the film, the documentary or the book, though.) Regardless, those dying, gave their bodies to their friends, so that they might survive. I always thought was rather beautiful.
An interesting side note: Nando Parrado (who crossed the Andes on foot) makes a very short cameo in this film. He the gentleman that opens the door for them when they enter the airport at the beginning of the movie!
When I heard Sheuberts version of Ava Maria that was it, I was a puddle
I love that they chose Numa, the last person to die, so that all the people who died had a voice 🖤
Yeah it was definitely the right decision!
That was Bayona's main and greatest decision.
Numa and the expansion of the ending were the best elements of this adaption. I love all three movies.
I heard his mother said Numa himself would have hated it because he was a really humble man. But she said they do it anyway to honor him ❤
Oh you mean the narrator and central character? I wasn't sure who the narrator was, I was too busy trying to figure out who was who. I'm sorry but I could not disagree more. Of course this movie was excellent, but Nando and Roberto didn't get near enough screen time, in my opinion. I have too many ties to Alive. I've seen it over a couple hundred times. The names of everybody were not mentioned NEAR enough, in this movie. It wasn't till the movie was 3/4 over before I finally was like, oh that's who that is.....oh, that's who that is
The husband's speech after loosing his wife in the avalanche broke me and I didn't even realize how gripped I was by the movie until that moment
I was crying at that scene last night 💔
The speech in the 93 version "ALIVE" is way much better...
he said similar things on an interview :'c maybe the script was inspited by his words. The interview is in youtube but i think it's not translated to english
That movie definitely had a grip on me also without realizing it, job well done with production 🎥
..when they all tried to make themselves presentable, combing hair, brushing teeth...like people would care after 72 days on the mountain. i wept
I have been almost obsessed by this survival story for years. Nando. This HERO, who walked for miles over the (sometimes vertical) Andes mountains, wearing only rugby boots and summer clothes - with no equipment apart from poles and crude sunglasses made with materials salvaged from the plane crash. He set out and walked..having survived a plane crash, head injury, medical coma, starvation, dehydration, injury, sub zero temperatures, emotional loss of his mother, sister and friends..having to make the unthinkable choice to use the only protein on the mountain...those same friends. He climbs and walks an impossible journey, then (not shown in any movies, but read the books) voluntarily steps back on a helicopter to go and rescue the other survivors - on a helicopter that was buffeted so much by the wind the pilots were crying and on the return, the other survivors were shouting the rosary. Nando Parrado. Inspiration, Hero....a living legend. Also of course, Roberto Canessa. Saved for a reason.
Excellent description of a hero. That man is incredible
Very accurate and true
@@gianna5642 my ambition, to meet him and shake his hand. Of course, he doesn't need me to validate his importance...but I need his handshake to show me miracles do happen
Absolutely, 100% agree with you about Nando. Well said and Nando has been my personal true hero for over 40 years and will always be. I've wanted to meet him for years and years.
Same here, I've been obsessed with this since I first heard about it in 1993.
I'm from Uruguay. It's important to highlight we don't have snow or mountains that high here. Also October for us is spring leading to summer. They were dressed for summer weather.
So although it would have been a hostile environment for anyone, imagine for people who had never experienced that cold, altitude and without proper clothing
Esto es algo que muchos ignoran, ya sea por ignorancia o porque realmente no les importa. Los pibes en su puta vida habían pisado o visto una montaña y mucho menos la nieve, estaban vestidos de primavera, nunca habían pasado frío a ese punto (a pesar de que en Uruguay hace mucho frío en invierno). Es increíble todo lo que aguantaron.
I still don't know how many survived and didn't freeze to death.
@@_nattanla propia gente que vive en la nieve y las montañas tampoco habrían sobrevivido y hasta montañistas profesionales bien equipados y entrenados han intentado emular la caminata de Parrado y Canessa y han fracasado, por eso mismo y por muchas más cosas la National Geographich declaró que esta es la mayor hazaña de supervivencia humana de toda la historia.
@@VickiSmith-eg9oo 16 out of 45 survived
@@_nattanit’s mostly because people who do research on these things are either European so they are surrounded by mountains anyway or have just travelled people forget this was in the 70s as stated a lot of the boys had never been out of the country before we take it for granted how easy it is to see things like mountains now compared to the 70s
This is hands down the best movie I have ever seen and makes me incredibly grateful for the life I live. So much emotion
Yeah the movie was top tier for sure!
The best movie you have ever seen, lol. How old are you, 12? Calm down, Corky…
@@Galactusz007 you’re showing your own age. Better get off the computer before Mummy notices
@@steve998 It was a dumbarze comment from that dude. Best movie he’s ever seen, lol. You know how many established classics have been made since cinema was invented over 100 years ago? And to call this Johnny come lately the best movie ever is absurd. But hey, join his club, lol.
@@steve998 Alive is an American movie spoken in English. It lose authenticity. It cannot compare to a Spanish film using real Uruguayan and Argentine actors.
This movie is by a landslide the best depiction of this gut wrenching story.
The plane crash, the first night, the avalanche was brilliantly done and just as I imagined when I read about it.
This movie didn’t downplay the suffering these young men went through the way Alive did.
I about jumped off my couch when it showed the rock throwing letter exchange with their rescuer.
And the aftermath omg the shower scene was heartbreaking 😭 but beautiful.
This is the PERFECT dedication to the survivors and the victims and their families. To show the world the agony and suffering this group went through. Hats off to everyone involved in its creation.
I was going to comment but yours says it beautifully! The most amazing dedication to the survivors, victims and their families.
I cried from happiness on the scene at the river and both of them seeing something different giving them hope at the same time. They actually found a person to bring help. Insane, truly insane and showing the real power of survival instinct.
I agree but the 1976 version is terribly done I feel like they just mocked and made fun of the actual tragedy Society of the Snow was just perfect
Amen to that. If you can check out touching the void. Great story and documentary. Also there was another film called Alive that was produced in 1993. The society of snow is a better depiction honestly. Well said.
@@Ana.K.Rodriguez wait! Whatttt??? There’s a movie from 1976? What’s it called? That sounds terrible that they mocked this tragedy
Learning that this was a true story makes it even more harrowing. The actors really did a great job, I thought Numa would make it cos he was the narrator I literally cried when he died. Whats great about this adaptation was they didnt focus on only one character in the story. It was confusing at first to get to know each character but it worked cos you connect with every character not just Numa or Nando
Yeah the movie was phenomenal!
Every living survivor appears on the movie.
@@superturronot all of them. Only Canessa, Parrado and Páez. Páez is the only one with a dialogue in the movie. He portrayed his own father who in real life read the name of the survivors twice.
Coche and Cervino also filmed movie scenes that didn’t make it in the final cut.
Numa’s nephew is also in the movie. He is the one who says “buenas noches” to Enzo (Numa) when he is arriving at his home (the real house where Numa lived) in his bike.
An element that makes the movie more interesting are the cameos. They are subtle but very thoughtful, and a true 'homage'
At the beginning you can see Nando opening the door for his family at the airport, like letting the past come to life.
Carlitos plays the character of his father Carlos (RIP), who was always hopeful and on the search, by naming all the survivors through the phone from Chile.
Also appears Roberto Canessa as a doctor, his 'role' in the accident (he was studying at the moment) and his career after all.
Daniel Fernández appears on the church scene.
There are even more cameos apparently from survivors, family members, etc.
Very meaningful from the production to do so.
Yes, when I recognized Carlos Paez, in the phone, mentioned his late friends... I was gutted.🥺
Nando is in the airport, by the doors, as people are walking in. Sabella is also at the airport near the Methols.
Wow, I did not know that! That is amazing
It’s Amazing .. I couldn’t after such a trauma.. but they did… it took them years to tell their story but I’m glad they did❤❤
One of my favorite things about the movie!!
I am latina and have known this story for decades. This movie is a true masterpiece, so captivating and so well done with care, love and attention to detail. The director Bayona is a genius, the young latin actors brilliant and so talented, I loved that all actors are either Uruguayans or argentinians, movie was made IN SPANISH and that a few survivors also acted in the movie makes it even more special.
Absolutely beautiful, they do deserve an Oscar.
Viva Uruguay 🇺🇾
Didn’t know anything about this incident so I thought Numa was one of the survivors. He was the heart and soul of the group and a damn hero.
I was absolutely crushed when he died.
Coche Inciarte (one of the survivors) said that Numa is the kindest person he's ever known
I actually gasped. Having seen the movie Alive so many times I thought it was interesting to see it from a different point of view. Absolutely heartbreaking when he passed, just was not expecting it. An incredibly beautiful, spiritual , heartbreaking film.
Tenés que leer el libro. Es mucho más interesante, más fuerte eso sí. Numa es resaltado ahí, como no lo fue en viven.
Te dejo un fragmento del libro: A medida que pasaba el tiempo, Gustavo se dio cuenta de que precisaban distintas
sustancias, además de las proteínas de los músculos. Faltaban calcio, potasio y
magnesio. El hueso los tenía. Entonces, a los compañeros que no podían moverse les
entregaban un hueso y un trozo de vidrio para que rasparan hasta que saliera polvo.
Cuando comían una cucharada, ingerían calcio. Luego razonaron que les faltaban otros
elementos, y comían absolutamente todo lo que se podía comer, sin desaprovechar nada.
Empezaron con los riñones, el hígado y el corazón. Luego siguieron los sesos, para
aprovechar el fósforo. Gustavo sabía que era monstruoso, pero él tenía un hacha y
alguien debía romper el cráneo.
En general los cuerpos estaban boca abajo y no siempre los identificaban. Los del
primer escalón recién sabían quién era después de que lo habían terminado de trozar, al
cabo de un par de días. Pero la mayoría del grupo, incluyendo los que participaban en el
segundo escalón, trozando las raciones pequeñas, hasta el día de hoy no saben
exactamente la identidad de los cuerpos utilizados.
Yeah it was heartbreaking when that moment happened!
those last words and his letter from the movie broke me 💔😢 I cried a lot last night watching this incredible film. Hugs to all the cast and crew and the director. They truly deserve to win more awards ❤
An interesting side note: Nando Parrado (who crossed the Andes on foot) makes a very short cameo in this film. He the gentleman that opens the door for them when they enter the airport at the beginning of the movie!
Cool spot! I didn’t notice that
So does Carlos "Carlitos" Miguel Páez Rodríguez, he is acting as his father(Carlos Páez Vilaró) in the story, he reads the names of the survivors -twice, on the radio, just before the rescue.
@@NihanBabaMunk I thought it could be him because I was thinking how did they find an actor that looked exactly like his dad?
Roberto Canessa, who was a Medical student at the time of the accident, is one of the doctors that received the survivors in the hospital in Santiago.
@@juanmartz81thank you for this, I went back and watched it- he is bringing Roberto(himself) in and supports him from behind. How beautiful is that😮🙏🏼❤The younger version of him and the actions & choices he made ensured that man to survive, thrive and grow old. It’s almost like he is metaphorically thanking his younger self by healing and standing by him.
Easily the best movie of 2023. It will take you in. Even if you know the story, the imagery is insane and the acting was nothing short of phenominal.
Sorry Mate, its 2024 .. and 95% of the planet only gets to see it on 2024. Brilliant movie though
And the scenery, everything you see of the mountains is the REAL place of the crash site. Yeah, how accurate is THAT?
The survivors have expressed the proper terminology would be anthropophagy and not cannibalism. Cannibalism is associated with killing. They didn't kill anyone. They ate flesh of the dead to sustain life. Very different things
Well said! Apparently anthropophagy is a word thag is barely used in English and most creators who speak English use cannibalism instead :/
The scene that made me teary eyed was when the helicopters where about to arrive and the survivors where combing their hair and brushing their teeth because after all of that they still wanted to look presentable 🥹🥹🥹
Carlitos Paez said his father taught him shaving in the morning was like getting rid of yesterday's bad things so he shaved, but the skin on his face was too coarse and burnt so he really hurt himseld.
this might be incredibly stupid but after the movie I hugged my dog and was so thankful we are both alive and well…just makes you remember how good it is to be able to give and receive love while nothing standing in the way of that…I am absolutely stunned by what those people went through, I am so sorry anyone had to go through that
This film was brilliant. Im Chilean and Im quite aware of this story, but the story seriously shocked me one more time. The characters were so unique, Numa's voice throughout the whole movie and he not making it (him being the voice of the deceased was a great point I didn't think of), really surprised me. The conditions, the crash itself, surviving however and with no limits, made it really hard to experience through the screen. It left me with a feeling of despair and even though there were survivors, it felt so bittersweet at the end. Definitely had a night with vivid dreams after watching it.
Having read 2 books on the event, I have to say this is the most realistic and visceral depiction of the event. Beautifully made and shot, it is an incredible re-creation of the event.
Yeah it all just felt so real when watching!
Pablo Vierci ' s "Society of the Snow" book of 2008 is a masterpiece and he's been involved all the way round. Great journalist and school friend of most of them made it posible for the actors to be in touch all the time with the real people or their families. Enzo Vogrincic as Numa is magnificent.
@@mirandadesign1591 I remember when i started reading that book I was already crying in the first like 5 pages, it took me a long time to finish it because I would cry In every page 😭
I actually cried when Numa died. Also, i think he looks like the actor Adam Driver.
Yeah it was such a powerful moment!
Better looking, Ada: looks like a sad horse.
Honestly one of the best movies I ever watched, right up there with Interstellar. I almost scrolled right past it, but when I clicked on it I recognised the image of the wrecked fuselage and IMMEDIATELY became teary eyed. I cried like a baby seeing what they went through, also because most of the passengers were about the same age as I am now (21) but sadly their lives were cut short in the worst possible way.
Yeah it was such a deep, moving movie that I almost missed too! Glad I watched it now, because it is so good
FUN FACTS ABOUT THE MOVIE AND THE REAL LIFE EVENT:
The actor who portrayed the father of Carlitos Paez ( the guy who is listing all the names of the survivors at the end of the movie), is actually the real Carlitos Paez.
In his book, Roberto Canssa expressed profound sorrow over the passing of Numa, as it left a lasting impact on him. Because now the dead outnumberd the living.
Last month I was complaining about being cold. I watched this movie last week. I'll never complain about being cold ever again.
So true!
Beautiful and moving movie. I loved how the movie would pause to list the full names and ages of those that had just died as a tribute. So many young lives lost. The strength and resourcefulness of those who survived was amazing to see and the rescue was so moving. Especially touching was how the survivors all tried to make themselves look as presentable as possible to reunite with their families signifying their efforts to rejoin society.
My mom was specially touched by their preparation for the rescue. Such a subtle, deeply moving scene
I honestly liked both. However, i liked the fact that society of the snow showed how they were rescued. The river, the throwing of stone, the cowboy. It will be nice if they also showed that the cowboy needs to ride his horse for almost 10hrs just to go to the nearest police station and then back. No one belived him at first.
I hope this never happens again. It’s annoying when a flight gets cancelled due to bad weather but it’s so much better than this. We came a long way…. There used to be lots of plane crashes and unnecessary deaths due to faulty design. I don’t think I’ll ever forget this amazing film which is a beautiful homage to those who lost their lives. I agree with your opinion point about Numa being the voice of those who didn’t survive. This film for me shows the miracle that was some people actually surviving this ordeal and how strong humans can be: mentally and physically! I also think that learning surviving skills should be taught in schools e.g build shelter, make fire, fix a radio… etc.
Almost all of plane crashes are due to human error at some point. In this one it was the pilots who made a navigation error, very easy to make in those days before gps. I've been in the Andes, everything looks the same, and those planes couldn't fly over the mountains, they are too tall, the tallest outside the Himalayas.
@@gustavogarcia-echeverria1190I think with 30 plane crashes before this in 1972, it should have alerted the 3 countries to never even attempt to pass over the mountain. Alas, this tragedy happened which astounded me. I am not Latino, but boy pardon me but that is incompetence on the part of the Air Force. The pilots shoild have not give in to the angry complaints of the passengers if he knew that it is dangerous to fly on the terrain. The problem is him giving in. Another is if they knew that the Fairchild at such altitude is not suitable for the Andes Mountains, why still use it? Why not accept their limitations and let the passengers be informed and persiaded to use other modes of travel? In that way it is nuch safer, albeit tiresome. So much lives could have been spared had they done due diligence
@@ibvghgfvbnbc I agree that the pilot should have made a point of not flying with bad weather. Going through both passes is completly safe as long as you pay attention to your watches. The pilots, both of them crossed the Andes many times before, lost track of their flying time, of their watches, and with no visuals got lost. It can happen today if you're flying a Cessna 172 or similar. About the F 227, well, that was what we had at the time. Now we have Hercules, they fly over the Andes, no problem.
The avalanche was absolutely tragic as 8 of the survivors suddenly perished in an instant.
They had however, run out of food from the corpses that had initially died upon the crash and it was a gruesome coincidence.
I took it as a message from nature that they needed to survive, so it helped them as sad as it can be
Yes, some people even accused them of inventing that avalanche and just killing people for food
@@IssaG0ld What?!! That's insane! I've never heard that! Some people are absolutely ridiculous! They are already in a terrible situation struggling between life and death..."Hey let's create an avalanche so we could all be wiped out in a matter of minutes...." It makes no sense whatsoever.
@@user-ms3jz7ub7none of the members of the Chilean rescue team (Claudio Lucero) says that they did everything on purpose in order to be famous and gain money, and that that's why they stayed for more than 2 months in Los Andes 🫣 ridiculous to say the least
Another difference between the movie and real life is that, because of weather conditions, the pilot decided they had to land in Mendoza the first day instead of flying directly to Santiago as planned. So everyone felt they had lost one day of their long weekend and had to find lodging, etc., on a tight budget. The pilot felt a bit pressured to fly the next day, regardless.
Numa and Tintin went out to eat together in Mendoza and they wrote "friends forever" that night. Tintin talks about this in the book
What I liked about it most, and why I think they chose to center on Numa, as you said, is showing that the dead lived through the survivors...methaphorically and literally😢It is shown very respectfully and humanly.
As a Chilean I appreciate that this is a Spanish made movie with Uruguayan and Argentinian actors, filmed in several of the actual locations, so it's way more inmersive than Alive.
I only wish we could see a longer version because I suspect the last part, when they're rescued, is heavely edited...it seemed to me there were more scenes with the cowboy (arriero) that found them and with the press as well, but they were cut out.
PS: the cinematography was so good too; the shot of the first time they see Sergio Catalán (the cowboy) across the river made me so emotional as a Chilean, lol...a man sitting a top a horse, with the traditional hat, the green hills and the snowy Andes on the back...it looks like a XIX century painting of my country😂
Concuerdo contigo, ojalá podamos ver una versión del director. Hay films que ganan con ello, creo que este seria el caso.
Cuando aparece Sergio Catalán en pantalla, grité como un gol de la celeste, siempre agradecido al pueblo chileno.
@@federicobalboa9145es que además el actor es igual a él! Muy emocionante toda la escena
@@taladroculesi! Entiendo que ya es una película larga y el énfasis es en la sobreviviencia misma, pero sería lindo ver la preocupación que tuvo el arriero con ellos y todo el operativo que se montó. Reforzar que la humanidad se mostró no solo en la comunidad del avion pero también en los desconocidos que los rescataron y cuidaron. Lo de la prensa es el lado más desagradable, aunque creo que igual podría haber sido interesante que lo explorasen un poco
@@franug El inicio de la película me pareció apresurado por ejemplo, esta bueno y nos lleva a la acción rápido pero precisamente porque el director busco un desarrollo coral en cuanto a los personajes estaría mejor un inicio que nos muestre algo más anterior al viaje y así poder conocer mejor a todos ellos y su disyuntiva personal antes de la tragedia.
I liked the way the movie displayed the love and care they had for each other, for their wounded and sick, for those who had difficulty with bearing with the situation. They were in a dire situation, no food and with very limited resources, yet they still didn't neglect the ones that needed help. They quickly accepted the death of their companions, but the weight stayed with them for the rest of their lives, not wanting to leave behind their mementos even if it meant not being rescued.
I watched the movie this morning while in Argentina during a lightning storm.
I will not forget how well told this story was and how my mind has been unable to grapple with the horror of the situation these passengers were in.
Incredible movie. Heartbreaking true event. I’ll be thinking about this movie for many years to come.
Absolutely correct,my brain is struggling to understand how those who survived were actually able to…I’ll think about it for a long time too.
I watched it last night. I very rarely cry but this movie was so powerful and daunting. I'm not ashamed to say I cried. It was a hard watch but well worth worth it. 😢
I cried as well but it was right when they found the river, the lizard and of course the first person to call for help. It was absolutely unreal. The salvation, the hope, the relentless instinct for survival at all costs. Such pure physical incarnation of what life is.
I just watched this today. It was mesmerising.
They made the crash, the avalanche and everything look so real. I normally get bored or distracted during long movies, but this one had me hooked from beginning to end. I cried real tears of joy when they were finally rescued at the end.
Brilliant acting! Brilliant movie! Worth watching!
Yeah one of the best movies I’ve seen in a while!
I say to all being from Uruguay is nice to see how a story of nationals survivors could touch so many people,in such a way.. Amazing specially that we're are so little,3,500 habitants.
A must see film of the year! I was obsessed with the story, I remembered reading they ate every part of body, even the brain. Desperate times.
Every shot was hauntingly beautiful. Director did phenomenal work. Burying them in real snow, controlled starvation by actors were all worth it.
One of the survivors Roberto is playing a little part at the end as a Doctor when they get rescued and taken to the hospital he takes care of “his younger version “ , and he’s a real Doctor in life.
Also, the real Carlitos Paez plays his father Carlos Paez Vilaro when he reads the list with the survivors' names.
Fernando Parrado is at the beginning of the film and Carlitos at the end.
8 or 9 of the survivors appear in the film.
I had to look away at a few scene dude to how brutal and realistic is all looked.. man i felt absolutely terrible for that couple, and that man essentially suffocating his wife with his own feet pressed against her chest. Man that almost had me choking up with sadness..
Poor. Numa & the rest of the folks who didn’t survive.. what a shame it truly was for all of them even the survivors.. 😢
This bond that all these survivors all had, is a bond that 99.9% of humanity will never truly have the tragedy to experience.
I was eagerly awaiting for a latinamerican depiction of this latinamerican event. it's much better than the ethan hawke movie. watching these stories in the language they were meant to be told and with actors from the region already makes it much better
This movie really shows the insane things a human body can endure when needed. Just the thought of surviving 72 (!) days in summer clothes sends shivers down my spine..
In comparison to Alive 1992, this hit an emotional level a lot more. Very similar and yet different with certain details, but such an incredible true story. The end made me cry
Every part of the movie has a purpose, down to subtle sound design, just to truly involve the viewer in the horror and humanity of the tragedy. Perfect film
Maybe too early to say but this movie will be as iconic as Titanic. I know that the story of this disaster is not as globally known as that of the ship but both movies are equal level masterpieces for me.
This movie deserves many, many awards. From the plane crash scene to, well, everything, it was just an incredible and horrific journey. It really made me feel like I was right there. I felt cold. I felt hungry. I felt sick and bewildered by the decisions they had to make. Could I do the same? It's unthinkable. The way the movie manages to make you understand their decision to become cannibals of all things, somehow actually empathize with that totally alien, disturbing truth of what all of those desperate people became capable of is just mind blowing
The greatest true story of survival we as people will ever know! Throughout history there's many stories that have the same greatest and it should be treasured by all!
Incredible movie! Just watched it tonight. I remember watching the movie Alive when I was a kid with my brothers. It left an impression on me as a kid and now this movie has completely floored me as an adult.
La película de VIVEN fue una version Disney. Los mismos sobrevivientes dijeron que ésta era la mas veraz.
Porque son los relatos de el libro " La sociedad de la nieve" te lo recomiendo.
Incluso hay uno de ellos que nunca más habló del tema.
Acá te dejo un fragmento : (muy fuerte es )
A medida que pasaba el tiempo, Gustavo se dio cuenta de que precisaban distintas
sustancias, además de las proteínas de los músculos. Faltaban calcio, potasio y
magnesio. El hueso los tenía. Entonces, a los compañeros que no podían moverse les
entregaban un hueso y un trozo de vidrio para que rasparan hasta que saliera polvo.
Cuando comían una cucharada, ingerían calcio. Luego razonaron que les faltaban otros
elementos, y comían absolutamente todo lo que se podía comer, sin desaprovechar nada.
Empezaron con los riñones, el hígado y el corazón. Luego siguieron los sesos, para
aprovechar el fósforo. Gustavo sabía que era monstruoso, pero él tenía un hacha y
alguien debía romper el cráneo.
En general los cuerpos estaban boca abajo y no siempre los identificaban. Los del
primer escalón recién sabían quién era después de que lo habían terminado de trozar, al
cabo de un par de días. Pero la mayoría del grupo, incluyendo los que participaban en el
segundo escalón, trozando las raciones pequeñas, hasta el día de hoy no saben
exactamente la identidad de los cuerpos utilizados.
En su momento VIVEN fue considerada como la mas realista representacion del accidente y no tuvo nada de "disney", especialmente la escena del impacto que hasta la fecha es considerada una de las mejores representaciones de un accidente aereo.
Este nuevo film de Netflix ES muchisimo mejor que VIVEN, obvio, pero eso no le quita el merito que tuvo la pelicula de 1992.
Es muchísimo mejor en medios técnicos pero no da alma a los personajes, cosa que la versión de Marshall si hacía. para mi eso es mas importante que un bonito envoltorio. A mi me ha dejado frío y decepcionado.@@PointReflex
@@PointReflex Como uruguaya y seguidora de todo lo que ha salido de esta tragedia, debo decir que VIVEN es una película bien hecha, pero que no es fiel en su totalidad con la verdadera historia. Los mismos sobrevivientes lo han dicho infinidad de veces en las entrevistas. Con el solo hecho de escuchar la historia con el acento uruguayo , me gusta más.
@@Sandracc1963 Yo tambien soy de Uruguay y se a lo que te referis, pero mi punto es simplemente recalcar que VIVEN no fue perfecta en todo, pero acerto en un monton de elementos. No mostro la realidad en carne viva pero dio a entender los conceptos que la rodeaban.
Sufrio censura, si, obvio, pero no fue un desprestigio hacia los supervivientes como si ocurrio con el primer film mexicano de 1976. Como dije, la version de Netflix es la mas realista de todas, pero VIVEN fue por decadas un peliculon aun con sus errores y si bien hay supervivientes como Carlos Paez que mencionan las modificaciones hechas por Frank Marshal, el aprecia el film y nunca nego su orgullo por haber sido representado por un mas que excelente actor.
Im from Uruguay and this is part of our idiosincracy, some things were slightly modified for not to be too similar to "Alive!" and for cinematic purposes.
By the way is all plenty of real survivors cameos,
Nando, the man who open the airport door
Roberto a doctor in chile
Carlitos, as his own father,Carlos Paez Vilaró on the phone telling the survivors list
Amazing story, I was 7 when I learned about it and it stuck with me. Since I saw the movie, I can't get them out of my head. They are so moving. What a beautiful job the actors and director and crew did. Wow. Nando, Roberto..they are truest heroes of our millennium. Doesn't get better than that. I went to listen to interviews, and while smiling they told is more about the story, and their attitude to life is so beautiful
They didn't suffer in vain, their friends and family didn't die in vain
Their message to us is their gift: appreciate life for its simplicity, don't ask.for much and be grateful. I still cry when I see the agony on their faces as I carry on my day. How odd it snowed today in a part of Switzerland by the lake Leman where it snows maybe 3 times a year. Like a message from the dead, knowing we are thinking of them
❤
It almost seemed predestined for Numa, who had no intention of going, to go so his flesh could serve as the last sacrifice to see thru the rescue of the the last group of survivors.
As an absolute fan of this story I can tell you this. During an interview, one of the survivors Antonio Vizintin, admitted that there are secrets about this story that will never be revealed. Said these secrets don't change the story in one bit, but there are things that are too personal to share with the world. I don't think he was talking about anything creepy, the most likely conclusion is that there was euthanasia going on. A friend of yours is telling you he cant go on, he is freezing to death, and he wants to die. In those conditions you will probably help him out.
I think that is understandable, if I was trapped there too I would want to kill myself also, not because I hate my life, but the same with them eating to survive, its just too much to bear to live in such harsh climate, it is as if you are in the bottomost pit of hell
They are still Catholics, right? Maybe that is why they did not say it is that it is mortal sin
@@ibvghgfvbnbc I think one taboo was more than enough to tell the world. Most of them were raised Catholics, yes, for what they say today they all have their different conception of what God is. Some stayed religious in a dogmatic way, some not. Parrado and Canessa seem to be Pantheists, if your beliefs have to be somehow put in a box.
Nando did a a documentary… There was ONE man on the other side.. they even went back years later to visit him.
I just watched one of his interviews as well. He said it was one man.
Just watched this last night and it was phenomenal. I didn’t know anything about it so I was a little surprised that it was in Spanish but I’m fluent so I didn’t mind. The whole thing was so beautiful and poignant that it still has a grip on me right now. Honestly, the hardest parts for me to watch were when the boys were on the verge of a breakthrough because I knew it wasn’t gonna work. Numa’s death and them listening to the broadcast about the search & rescue operations ending were also gut wrenching.
As an Uruguayan, this is us. Small and quiet green country overlooking the Atlantic Ocean. Not loud but straight forward. In a smooth way we are so disruptive in so many ways: we were the first country around the 1830 to split of Religion and State, assure public and free for all medical care and mandatory school at the same time and women vote in the early XX Century....we'll be carbon free by 2050 and are the largest green energy supplier in the World. We all know each other and have a friend or a relative that carved the Miracle of the Andes coming back on their own, or one who did not make it but was part of that Society of the Snow. Compasion. Self respect and what our President put in words "responsible freedom" we sorted COVID with no lockdown, low toll in death and the first (and fastest per day) to be vaccinated (by now 5/6 shots and boosters). I highly encourage u to read the original book from Pablo Vierci "The Society of the Snow" written in 2009 after 50 hours with the ones who came back and is the inspiration to this movie.
P.S. the details go the extra mile every time. Numa's house is his real home 51 years ago.
Oh please! zero link between this heroic acts and our actual president🤦🏻♀️. Have some respect, 7660 died because of poor managment of the pandemic in Uruguay.
@@psiveronicabasso ....Guess you mean "current". "Actual " means something different. But we all are entitled to our opinion. I highly respects yours.
yours.
The movie certainly put Uruguay on the map for me. I now feel I want to visit.
@@ninascheicher5500 you'll be very welcomed! But do not expect mountains at all.
Incredible story. I’m not a crier in movies or in life, this one got me
Yeah it was such an emotional ride
There were not 3 men across the river from Nando Parrada & Roberto Canessa. It was 1 man Sergio Catalan, with his 2 young children, he had to leave them under the care of someone and traveled by himself for 10 hrs to get Parrada & Canessa help. And took them to his house to feed them
@ll-wj4lu I agree, especially the bond they formed with him and his family.
I wish Numa didn’t die. Broke my heart😢
It was such a sad moment!
This has always been one of my favorite true stories because I have so much respect for all those who did everything they could to survive. The human will to live and move is incredible, what an incredible retelling of the events. The movie truly gutted me unlike Alive, these actors truly respected the people they were portraying it felt so real.
Os mortos ajudaram a sobreviverem. E, Sergio Catalan o vaqueiro levou -os para casa...
Em 2018 fui ao Chile e viajei até São Fernando, onde conheci um Memorial em homenagem ao acidente e visitei Sergio o vaqueiro. Há 50 anos que essa história faz parte da minha vida.
Todavía te falta ir a El Sosneado (en Mendoza, Argentina) y hacer la travesía hasta el lugar del accidente, yo no lo hice aún pero no pierdo las esperanzas.
@@danielpiedecasas1346 Talvez
Numa's infection didn't happen because he got cut with glass, it happened because somebody accidentally stepped on him
This was a great movie. The photography and humanity were outstanding. I can't imagine surviving that long.
Yeah it was simply amazing!
One detail that both movies never told, regarding what happened in reality, is in the flight of the plane, I guess for a matter of narrative rhythm to not lengthen so much the moment of the crash, they omitted an event that happened before the plane enters Los Andes, that due to bad weather the pilots decide to land in the province of Mendoza (Argentina), which is right next to The Andes, There they spend almost 1 whole day, the passengers decide to go for a walk around the city, do shopping, go out to eat, etc, then under pressure from the passengers and their desire to get to Santiago de Chile, they insist to the pilots to take off and go, there was still bad weather, but well, finally by insistence they take off, they go into the Andes mountains and the rest is history.
Wow!!
Great movie, still a big fan of the ‘93 version because it was my first exposure to the story and the closing with Ave Maria playing while showing the cross memorial on the mountain had my eyes leaking. Feels like the crash sequence in the 93 version was also a little longer and more practical effects over CGI. The story was better in this new version.
I feel exactly the same as u
Another thing everyone should probably know as far as the movie vs real life: EVERYTHING you see in the movie of those mountains, every direction, the entire landscape surrounding the movie plane is the REAL location of the crash site. Yeah. It doesn't get more accurate than that.
Actually it was also shooted in the Sierra Nevada mountains in Spain.
@@Saybeun The actors were mainly shot in Spain, yes. The 2nd Unit filmed the real location and then green-screened it or whatever behind the actors. Its amazing how real it all looks.
It wasn't three men who found them. It was ONE man named Sergio Catalan. The movie is right. It's an amazingly accurate film
Canessa and Parrado first encountered three men across the river. Catalan came back the next day after sending one of the others to San Fernando. No adaptation gets all of the details right.
Well, actually Catalan was with two of his sons working up there, but he was the one that threw them the paper and then galloped 14 hours straight to deliver it to the police
@@jerryrehard7711Catalan was with two of his sons and they couldn't rescue or search for help immediately because it was nightfall. the actor that played Catalan looked so much like him!
@@franug Either way it was initially three men that they encountered. No one is denying that Catalan was the first one that they communicated with, he just wasnt alone when they first saw him.. I'm not saying that any movie based on a true story has to get every little detail right but the other person replying is denying a fact.
@@franug Many of the actors looked much like their real-life counterparts. Marcelo and Zerbino for instance. Some others not so much. I enjoyed the film, and it was certainly well made but I was expecting more of the details depicted in the books and personal accounts. Again though the film medium never covers everything.
Sergio catalán was the one who saw them and then sent the other two to rescue them.
Also... If you pay close attention, some of the survivors are in the movie! At the beginning you can see Nando opening the doors to the airport; Canessa is behind the actor playing him when they are going into the hospital; and finally, Carlitos Paez is the one reading the names of the survivors.
Great video! I've always been obsessed with survival stories, like the Andes accident, Shackleton's story, and the 1996 Everest incident. It's both terrifying and inspiring to see what we're capable of doing to survive. Excellent film; I watched it yesterday and recommend it to everyone.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed the video. Yeah it was a remarkable film
Same, was recently on constant binge of survival movies. Society of the Snow is easily on the top right now for me together with Fall, Frozen, 124 hours. This one is as raw as it can get, everything in the name of survival. I cried when they found the river, the lizard and the first person to help them back to civilization. These stories remind us to cherish everything and forget how much meaning we have put into the stupidest of things nowadays.
What a great movie. It was hard to watch though. There was moments i wanted to stop but like the survivors i told myself I couldn’t leave. I forced myself to watch it n I’m happy i did. To survive a plane crash is rare. To survive without being injured even more rare. To survive with no injuries and make it over 70 days in the freezing Andes… practically impossible. What a amazing and inspiring story. The original movie “Alive” was really great as swell.
Knowing this was a true story is what made me break down crying in joy when they hiked
out and got rescued
Yeah it was an amazing moment!
Es el film que mas he disfrutado en toda mi vida. Jamas llore TANTO de emocion
Te recomiendo ver Viven, y el documental de Sociedad de la Nieve, las entrevistas a Canessa cuando recién los encontraron y testimonios de Canessa, Choche Iriarte y Carlitos Paez más recientes.
@@peaceandlove544 ya vi Viven y lei el libro hace años, pero esta me gusto mucho mas. He leido tambien este libro y los de Strauch, Parrado, Cannessa y Paez Vilaro. Tengo pendiente ver la documental, gracias
@peaceandlove544 la entrevista que hace don Alipio Vera de Television Nacional de Chile a los sobrevivientes recién encontrados y a Sergio Catalán es muy emotiva...por ejemplo le preguntan qué comieron y se nota cómo evaden responder; el periodista no insiste, menos mal. También se refieren a cómo el gobierno chileno reaccionó molestado a las especulaciones de la prensa, pidiendo que se respetase a los sobrevivientes y al pueblo amigo uruguayo. Está en el canal de TVN acá en youtube
@@franug gracias, la buscare
For those saying this is a remake of ‘Alive’, the movies have different titles so it’s technically not a remake.
This has a documentary feel to it. ‘Alive’ while good never felt like this groups survival story. But Society of the Snow is a masterpiece.
‘Alive’ didn’t capture the suffering or horror. The actors looked the same after 72 days in the Andes and made their 11 day trek look like a 2 day over the hill rescue.
And Alive left out the best part in my opinion and that was the rescue. And some aftermath.
Society FINALLY told their story.
I know if I ever have a story to tell I’m going to call on the same team who 10:15 told this hell on earth remarkable story.
So....using your reason...TITANIC could not be considered a remake of A NIGHT TO REMEMBER....do you believe that a newer, more expensive version of a story makes it the more accurate? That story has been filmed a few times, with a really crappy cheap
Version called SURVIVE being mass-released to drive-ins in 1976.
I felt it was unnecessarily modernized...and the characters badly written using 2023.sensibilities. maybe I should have tried to stay a little longer with it....but after about 30 minutes this commercialism disguised as art bored me to tears.. it was one big cliche and I had seen it hundreds of times.
completely agree@@rt3593
@@rt3593 the fact that it’s based on a book released in 2008 when Alive was made in 1993, that kinda settles it.
The movies are based in different books of the same titles. The focus of each book is different, so the movies are different. It is better to watch both of them.
If It Wasn't Because Of The Dead People They Wouldn't Have Made it But I Understand Them Completely Because in That Situation There's Nothing You Can Do Other Than What They had To Do Great Movie RIP To The Ones They Didn't Make it 🕊️🕊️
I burst into tears when they began to groom themselves to wait for rescue 😪❤
masterpiece!
Yeah this movie took my by complete surprise. Simply incredible!
This story needed to be told in Spanish. Hearing the Uruguayan accent, the jokes, the part when the my start to rhyme it was very much needed. Such a touching and inspirational story.
I can probably count on one hand the times a movie has made me cry. Honestly probably less, I am not a crying type. This movie made me cry. It was beautiful and horrifying and haunting. I immediately bought the book which was also hypnotizing. I have told everyone to watch it. I am on here trying to convince my creep son to watch it even though i suffered through 3 hrs of Killers of the flower moon in a theater for him...
Yeah it's such a powerful movie!
I just read up on what the name Fernando means when translated, and I was fascinated by how perfectly this name suits him. take a look too
The attention to details in the photos alone in the movie are chilling. They look exactly like the real ones.
Yeah it's so true!
One of the best reviews I've seen so far. Good video. Cheers from Uruguay.
Thanks a lot. Glad you enjoyed the video!
I'm Mexican and was 9 years old when the news broke out.
It was so interesting listening this movie in its original Uruguayan Spanish.
(Castilian rioplatense). (Uruguayan side).
And some Chilean Spanish too.
Finished this movie not long ago and my god what a feat. You felt the gravity of the situation. The crash, cold, avalanche and finally the rescue. I cried..
I remember first hearing of this as a kid. Probably 7 years old. I had seem the original film. Truly impacted me as a kid. So glad to see it broight back.
Not something I expect from Netflix. I was in tears. 10/10.
Yeah it was incredible. I hope it wins the Oscar for foreign film!
Best movie I've ever seen this year. Deserve an Oscar awards👏👏👏👏
Masterpiece..! Salute to all the actors and its production team. Numa and pancho conversation at end made me cry.😭
Unforgettable heart wrenching movie with very relatable characters.
In my country you hear about this accident, all the time while growing up, so it's kinda nice to see a good representation of what happened, and everyone around the world talking about it.
Yes, there are missing details about the story that literally sound like "to much for a movie" (yes, things were even worst than in the movie), but you can still see and understand what they went through.
TRULY AN ASTONISHING STORY AND GREAT MOVIE
My daughter and I started it late last night and plan on finishing it this weekend.. I highly recommend watching it in its original language with English subtitles.. the dubbed over voices didn't hit home as hard, we switched languages about 20 minutes in...
Something that I like is that you see all the passengers even for a few seconds each, in the airport or arriving at the airport. For instance Nando's best friend Panchito (Francisco) Abal, I didn't even know his existence, because in other movies they mention Nando's mother and sister, but in interviews Nando said I lost three persons that day my mother, my sister Susy and my best friend Panchito Abal. One can see him arriving with Nando and his family to the airport, like him, other people too, like for example the other couple I believe the Nicolas, Francisco and Ester, (i didn't hear about them either) besides Liliana and Xavier Methol, are at the airport too, that's very moving.
The detail that got me the most was that there was an interview with the filmmakers that stated they went to the same spot this happened around the same time of year this happened to them, just to put themselves in a similar situation as they had to endure. And the guy who played Numa lost about 50 pounds to prepare for the role. Just goes to show the appreciation to detail and the experiences they went through that went into this movie.
I learned of this story about 27 years ago as an impressionable teenager. This story has shaped my life and I’ve read every article, book, and watched every video. The movie was well done but felt rushed, which I understand as there’s a lot to tell in a small amount of time. Funny thing is that out of all the books I read, La Sociedad de la Nieve is my favorite as it’s the story told by each of the survivors from their own individual perspective. And now the movie allows Numa to also have a voice. I also loved that Marcelo was heavily featured as I think without him,the “society” may not have been organized enough or strong enough to survive the disaster of the avalanche. I wish he would have told some of the story. Overall, a visually impressive story that did not get to capture the real relevance of the events as I’ve come to know and understand throughout the years. But you can only do so much in a movie.
I got halfway through Rebel Moon until I got bored, so put this on for something to watch. No regrets, an absolutely incredible film ❤
Yeah this is so much better than RM!
i still feel like this masterpiece is underrated
Yeah I just hope it wins the oscar!
Underrated??? It got MASSIVELY appreciated. See Rotten Tomatoes.
Did anyone else notice the real Nando holding the airport doors open for his character and family at the beginning? That scene hits different
Very good review and as an Uruguayan thanks for the respect .
Excellent movie, great actors, photography, music, makeup Amazing. J A Bayona the director is a genius!
about the 3 men you said they found when they got to the river, it was the muleteer (Sergio Catalan, we see him on screen), and the other 2 were their kids (14-15 yo) that were helping him to move the animals.
I was literally blown away by this movie. I cried multiple times and the worst part is that I DID NOT KNOW until the very end it was actually based on a true story.
I loved Alive. I don't care that it was English. Nothing will compare to the effects they used for the physical plane. It was gripping then, it was harrowing back then to see at 17, BUT, THIS... THIS gives it the much more REALISTIC human perspective. You can't fault either film honestly. It's like trying to compare "A night to remember" and "Titanic".
This one will stick with you forever just as it stuck for a long time with "Alive", but due to 30 years on regarding better storytelling, technology and a need to make movies for a society MUCH MORE DESENSITIZED to things, Society of the Snow will forever be a movie that should linger in history... until another 30 years or more where a new set of tech and storytelling and audience will show something else.
F***N looved the movie, VERY WELL DONE , the plane crash was sooo realistic, cast , acting everything was TOP notch..i dropped few tears too, was very sad & emotional
Yeah the movie really did take you on the whirlwind of a ride and feel exactly what they were going through!
In South America we heard about this story.. I never thought anyone can literally projected and acted in such a way…Hollywood is small compared to all that participated in this movie… hope to see them in big movies all of them..❤
I selected this movie to watch on Sunday just because it said OSCAR nominated
BUT after watching it I swear I was speechless with tears in my eyes !
Since then I am watching everything about the accident and all the reviews and survivals interviews
That's how I got to find your video
I am still carried away by that miracleous survival story
Thank you ❤
It is an amazing film isn't it!
@@BrainPilot absolutely 💯