The TRUTH about Team Corally durability!
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Just how durable are the Team Corally 6S cars? Kronos, Punisher, Radix, Python, Shogun, Muraco
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"The easier you make something to drive, the less mistakes you're gonna make, the less stuff you break" That is a great saying to argument you should tune your vehicle. Kudos!
thats why I always turn of avc and all other stuff that companies help that makes driving easier. I want to feel the car and have it under control. And that you have to learn in doing small stuff and small races even at start in slower speed.
HRP the distributor for Team Corally, is licensed to provide customer service. I purchased a Punisher and a Kronos XTR. Beware their customer service is bad, very bad. They dont want to warranty the product, not only do I have the pivot ball problem that they "claimed" they had no clue about, but they are so rude. My servo went out in a month...Think they sent me out a new after sending in proof of purchase...No. They sent me a RMA, which is a return merchant authorization, and they want me to pay for shipping. Dude I'm like seriously? Yes. So not only do the pivot balls pop out, they don't provide good customer service and they're parts are hard to find. Great video.
Good to know, thanks.
We know now who has garbage customer service.
When i first started RC racing in the 90s i was running Corally 1/12 &1/10 scale pan cars for a while. Even ran an oval car for the longest time.
Ppl should also have in mind that corally is a small company. Arrma always had a big partner behind them like hobbico and now horizon hobby. And it took arrma years to get the durability to the current state. I think ppl should bear with corally and be patient as they were with arrma. One year in and they already progressed to a V2 version which is definitely improved. Next year a v3 will come out which will improve the cars even more.
You can't expect a new basher to enter the market and be as good or better than the cars of a company which already has years and years of experience in this segment.
Agreed, Corally has done a really good job trying to address things as quickly as possible. In a weird way, they are a victim of their own success -- these trucks are getting pretty popular and people are doing crazy things with them already, much like Arrma was in the early days.
New Basher.
Over 18 years on market.
Choose one.
@@deltazero3796 Corally has been around for decades
You can't expect a new basher to enter the market and be as good or better than the cars of a company which already has years and years of experience in this segment
This is where I think your wrong. Corally's been building vehicles for a while now. There R&D team should have looked into Arrma"s earlier problems and said lets not do that and lets make it better. They just kicked themselves in the butt for poor quality out of the gate. If they would have done ANY research they'd be selling these like crazy.
Well they copied arrma designs and black red color schemes and even similar names. Corally is a knock off arrma wannabe they want same price as arrmas but corally is far inferior.
You are just awesome. Perfect explanation and in depth knowledge about Bashers 👍👍👍 Thank you so much for sharing 😘
You're too kind BQ!
I want a Tamiya Hornet now! Miss the old days.
Great video and content. I broke that front bottom brace on my Jambo as well. Bought the 7075 one but glued the broke one until I could get the aluminum one and believe it or not it's still holding up a couple runs later. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤣
I have the Krow xtr also I've been running and jumping maybe 5-6' in the air max so far so good. 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤣
And this is why I respect YOUR TAKE on vehicles more than most, so many things need to be taken into consideration when bashing and potentially breaking RC's
Your a great driver and that always helps 😎👍
Fantastic job Rich, unbiased and truthful and very technical.... 10 out of 10
thanks a lot! I just tried to lay out the facts as best as possible (well, some of these are opinions I guess), without it sounding like a rant or whatever.
@@RazorRC it's never a rant if you know what your talking about. Fact
Yea your always on it bro absolutely love the honesty and videos are some of the best buddy 💯
great vid, you do bring up some good points.
Great video! I like your explanation with durability you’re absolutely right there’s many factors! 🍻
thanks! I hope the video wasn't too boring!
Not boring, very relevant
@@RazorRC agreed! Not boring at all great info. 💯💯
I was in my local hobby shop in the market for a 6S basher and they are big with Team Corally. I left with a Kronos V2 and loved it till I bent the rear center drive shaft. Call HS and was told the DS is not in stock and could not find one in the US. I found a full set of driveshafts parted out from a new truck. Thanks Jenny R/C. Hard to find parts in the US. Still a fun truck to rip around but won't be doing much jumping.
I think they updated the rear driveshaft to be slightly shorter so it doesn't bend as easily, not sure if it's a new part # or not.
@@RazorRC Yes the new one has some back and forth play. I installed the extreme bash tower to tower center brace also. No problems since. I don't jump this much now. Maybe 10 feet is max. Compared to my Maxx I will use the TC for speed and Maxx for big air
Lots of logic chatted here, mate. As always, love your work x
Much appreciated
At the moment I watch all your vidoes about team corally again and again. Gorgeous! Due to the fact that I damaged my Dementor V2.5 due to a massive divers fault from myside (also bend the chassis slightely), I'm still upgrading this stunt truck with all the 7075 T6 alloy tuning parts from Corally, its easy to get spare and tuning parts here in germany. I also had the feeling at the begining that the shocks and springs are way to soft, compared to the Talion EXB. So I followed your hint to use the Kratton EXB ones at the rear in parallel I ordered the stiffer springs from Corally. Currently I'm searching a video, how to shim the diffs right, or how to measure and adjust the right clearance between the gears. Do you have one? Cheers and keep it up. You make the most professional reviews I checked on CZcams.
Great video thanks!!! Great points 👍weight has alot to do with it too. I learned to jump on a light Bigrock and it took a crazy beating broke one control arm and bent 2 turn buckles. You would've absolutely cringed at what I did to it.
Light is right for sure. It's amazing how much punishment those 3S Arrma's can take.
What about pinion Cups and diff outs? Did you bend them with 6s? I bought them hardened (3 bags with 6) and installed them before bashing with 6s.
Good video brother as always great job👊💪👍
Thanks 👍
Do you think a corally radix 4s team would be useful for the circuit? I only compete with my friends and I want a car that does not give me problems and that does not break easily
Nice. Another good overlooked 8th scale truggy is Integy.
The temperature can play a massive part as well. Some of my trucks are almost indestructible in summer but below 10c they can break easily.
yup!
WD-40 those plastics🤔.. every model Everytime. It's probably how my trucks put up with my crazy speed bashing.🤙💥
I was looking at this verse though typhon. Would you recommend this for somebody that doesn't do hard bashing the most I do is run on BMX tracks or RC tracks no crazy 20 ft plus jumps or anything like that. I'm also not the best driver in the world either
Have you tryed the jambo corally
I have the corally moxoo xp and the only issue so far has been the front d block or hub carrier(not sure what it's really called). Do you know of any upgraded part for that? I've only found stock replacements and even those are hard to find. Thanks for all the info you share. You have a great channel. 👍🍻
I don't know anything about the 2wd Corally's, sorry
Have a look at other 2qd shkrt course trucks as associated , slash during and more. With alight mod you might get then to fit
Hittin the nail on the head! I think the main thing with durability is actually vehicle performance. Most bashers cars go insanely fast. To fast for the car to be able to handle. My skill(or lack there of) is a personal problem. And in no way reflects the cars durability. It’s up to the user to find the cars performance limits. Keeping pushing past and your going to have issues. :)
I think that's another difference between the Arrma's and Corally's. The Corally's are quite a bit faster, and you're right that the faster you go...
I agree on that, that's the skill factor.
If u bought a ferrari or and other super fast car and went pushing it on the back lanes I'm pretty sure i be in a hedge after 5 minutes lol
Did they fix these improvements with the V2 I'm going to get the Shogun
This is the most informative and unbiased video ever published 👏🏾
And that is the nicest thing anyone posted on my channel, thanks!
I use to have Mugens now have kraton and I love it but I realized after having Mugens that they really just a mid grade truggy with monster truck tires on it. If I had it to do over I would get another Mugen or tekno mt410 it et48.3 which you can find used for farely cheap throw some backflips tires on it and be good to go
there's something to be said for getting a race truggy and turning it into a basher!
the corally factory is nearby my house and i live in belgium part are not the problem here its like buying tekno or other brand in belgium hart to find parts its just thinking about from where you live and how big is the company to ship to diffrent countries
Hi Razor, you always make a lot of sence. Very thoughtful and well explained. Thanks for all your great advice and thanks for sharing with us. John
Thank you kindly
Great Vid...I'm just glad that you hit on all of the key factors involved with durability & you didn't babble for an hour talking nonsense. "ThumbsUp"
thanks
U nailed it,location is a huge factor that I try to explain to my friends,I bash mine my friends don't,they get so rotted when I'm airing mine out at the skate park or dirt bike track and they break theirs out by the house haha curbs man curbs,carnage waiting to happen lol
curbs are the worst
@@RazorRC haha yes sir
Just had a UDR and had a good 4S run and while going back home since the pack was nearing the end, I barely touched a curb and split the servo saver horn. Curbs are indeed the worst
Corally them selves have now acknowledged to Big Poppa Paul channel that there is a problem re tolerances in the pivot ball fit in the sockets. They have confirmed they are working on this problem, probably looking at using larger balls that don't pull out as easy.
IMO, it's a tolerance/QC issue. This design has been the same since the V1's and you didn't hear much about this until the XTR's came out, which is what every CZcamsr has been buying and having problems with.
@@RazorRC I have also seen these pulling out on the earlier ordinary 2021 6s trucks as well as the XTR.
@@gillian9178 Radix and Python don't pop though..Smaller buggy wheels
@@philthyco1 Yep that's why I said specifically 6s trucks & not 6s line in general.
I really like your take on durability. Guess maybe I baby my little 3s typhon a bit. I've been taking it to the track everyday though. ive only just got re in climated back into rc driveing though after 10 - possibly 15 years think back then rc10s were as fancy as they came I still feel if my car ever flew even 10 feet off of the ground with out the most perfect stick of a landing that all id expct to find is a mushroom cloud "/
Some people are just intent on breaking things. They drive their own personal cars like they driver their r/cs. Number one reason I will never consider buying a used car.
But they jumped it from a ski lift!!! JK. I love my punisher, I haven't broken anything, i mostly do small to moderate jumps from dirt piles at construction sites.
Watch rich duperbash giving his vehicles hell without breakages. That man seems to have legendary driving skills.
Yes and rigs built like tanks with all M2C upgrades
@@philthyco1
czcams.com/video/kS15Kx9eW_Y/video.html
Not always.
He breaks all the time he literally shows and explains his breakages
@@markmmm1737 That's a 1/10 scale composte chassis but it still has m2c parts ..We are talking about 8th scale rigs tho
Corally goes faster than other cars and they are relatively heavy so if you hit something you are more likely to break the pitlvoballs dolls sometimes loose then it is best to replace. Corally comes with a fix and maybe we get them for free, that's how Corally cares about the customer V2 parts, we also got the package with outdrives 77% discount for almost free;)
@@hashimrahman51 the are fixing this and happened some hard impact happening ones when i hit the fence hard with my Python' ' with my notorious i breake more even the diffcase becouse off the brace design and then the bad hardware ARRMA use with red-loctite big fail
@@hashimrahman51 but luckily Corally, just like Traxxas, is very well available, I can't say that about ARRMA, that's why my last ARRMA also leaves the Mojave with her fragile Bodypost
From what I've seen, the plastics are less durable than the Arrma 6s trucks. The pillow balls going through the hubs is also a problem with the 6s Arrmas. It's probably going to need aluminum hubs like the 6s Arrmas do. My front CVDS on my 6s Arrma trucks would come off the drive cups almost every run. So yeah.
@@curt-1927 Hopefully V3 will address the plastic issue. 👍
Someone needs to make a video on installing the wheelie bar Team Corally came out with recently
Its Easy
not a fan of there's it's to close to the wing and it's only one wheel
Great video and we'll thought out points. From what I've seen I think it's a combination of a lot of things. From personal experience finding parts isn't always the easiest, springs especially. Most people aren't a fan of waiting for parts combined with the feeling of disappointment of your brand new rc not lasting as long as what IS out there. When people are already irritated and upset they're not at the most rational.
You already have the tribalism of brands and the isn't corally just a knock off arrma mentality going on. You add that all up and you have a recipe for disaster. I'm of the mentality that I don't owe any brand any undying allegiance. A GOOD RC IS A GOOD RC. Competition is great for the consumer so trying new brands and giving them an opportunity only benefits us in the end as it pushes competition for better and cheaper products for us.
Got my Kronos xtr from RC Explosion in Texas
congrats, enjoy!
Both great companies IMO
I bought a kronos in April 2020. The first thing it needed was a savox servo 90 euro. Then changed the radio system. The axles and outdrives are weak. The metal parts overal are not that good. I had a rc8t in the past. That was way better.
I really like my TC punisher but TC has been around since 1986 older then me there quality should have been better what were their designers thinking.
What do you recommend for shock oil front and rear? Diff fluid too?
Absolutely. not.
Check out shock oils dependablemfrom scale. and weight. of. your rc.
Diff fluid is too thick. for. shocks.
@@deltazero3796 no I meant what do you recommend for shock AND diff fluid, not putting diff in the shocks. 🤣🤣🤣
Very objective point of view without badmouthing a special company. Very good.
thank you!
I agree, once I became a better driver I began breaking much less.
arrma big rock vs rival mt10?
Big rock, although it's more expensive it's more durable and more powerful. Also you're gonna break A-arms a lot on the MT10.
Don't have experience with the MT10, but the 3S Arrma platforms are ridiculously durable, probably one of the best bashers on the entire market
@@prismgames A arms are actually a weak point on Big Rocks. (It’s one of the only weak points). However, a cheap and easy swap to RPMs and you’re back to damn near indestructibility. I’m constantly wowed by my Big Rock.
Granite
@@patmarcus172 Yeah RPM arms are beasts! Although I've not even cracked a single A-arm on my granite yet.
Little sad to see calabazas bike park just looking crappier and crappier as each year passes.
😢
Understand the points you make regarding the variables when talking about durability but frankly I think they are irrelevant. You can only judge and report durability on your channel using comparisons between models which you run in the same environment in the same way. Some cars will be designed better, have better materials and therefore handle bashing better then others which you then report on, simple. Talking about peoples skill level is completely irrelevant as some will be better at driving then you, some worse so what's the point of that comment? I mostly agree with what you say and I think you have one of the best RC channels on CZcams so please dont misunderstand me, I just found this lengthy intro to be irrelevant. Just run the cars, tell us what you observe and keep it simple as you mostly do. :)
CORALLY RIGS ARE THE FASTEST OUT THERE STOCK FACTS! THEY'RE JUST NOT BASHERS!!! YOU MUST MAKE THEM BY UPGRADING THEM THAT'S WHY THEY'RE PRICED THE WAY THEY ARE BUT MAN THEY ARE FUN TO RUN AND ALMOST UNDRIVABLE ON 6S THEY'RE GOOD RIGS JUST DO YOUR MAINTENANCE.
guess you can put arrma parts on team corally
i have a syncro 4 it brokes very easy
On the subject of durability . Design and engineering is number 1 . These manufacturers are so greedy there is no way they are not the first factor to anything.
I buy a new Arrma . Drive it 3 times in the first week . I mean try it out just rolling around. Nothing in woods or environment that is extreme. And the motor brush holder broke. Yes brushed motor going to upgrade but not yet . Not the first week I have. So I had another motor and put that holder with original brush and gave it another . Drove around and it stopped. Inspected it. Same fail mode. Brush holder broke again at same spote . So they are very well engineered for they're profits .
So I was reminded why I quit the hobby 20 years ago. They lost my 20 years of business and are going to loose it again. And the RC hobby or technology and industry is killed with greed. All the effort to grow the hobby and industry in vain.
@@hashimrahman51 what I'm saying is wheel coming off is not a weakness . Or it should not be a gamble or weighing odds. We pay money . Real money . Lots of it. We should get a Decent product. Plus we may be adults but most of customers are kids. Kids with luxury. It should be available to all kids and without fail modes. Not right off start.
I always say this..It's not the car it's the driver..Most guys always blame the car lol
The upper front bulk head is different on the LWB chassis?..I didn't notice that before..Mine has the alloy plate on the python
Usually, but these really suck
@@garrymunyack5872 Sorry but no..Even Arrma needs hundreds in hop ups to be able to jump high without breaking..come on guy
Id love to have one but there plastics and arms are just so weak. Your not the only one Its all I hear from them. Its sad because everything else is awsome ! They look great / there super fast / price is fair and there electronics are awsome but there basic plastics are not tuff enuff at all. A company over time should improve its quality even on "cheap things " like a arms. They have had so long to fix this but seem to ignor it. Its not the expensive stuff that needs fix its the cheaper stuff. Being cheaper stuff is still just as important as the expensive stuff. Id get one in a heart beat if they were more durable.
I didn't hear anything he said. I was fixated on his left thumb nail. Thinking about how it got to how it looks. Tragic car accident? Garbage disposal? Maybe an old war injury? So many options...
I mean honestly you're talking about the differences in bashing style, skill, location etc and then decide that the pillow balls are not an issue.
It's just not an issue you've had. I've personally overgeared, overheated and gone submarining both my Xmaxx and Maxx ESCs and they refuse to die, it doesn't mean they should be considered reliable ESCs. I just have gotten lucky.
I do also see your bashing style is very controlled and precise, which is fairly rare. Not a single video clip of you landing a jump in any other way than flat. Like you said, if you land perfectly, expect very few breakages. It makes sense that you have issues with braces and the flexing chassis with your bashing style, as chassis slap is going to be your enemy.
It's hard to be objective here. Obviously pillow balls have their limitations. But it would seem like people comparing the rate at which they pop their arrma pillow balls to their Corally pillow balls and finding the Corally pillow balls lacking are being completely fair.
That said, it does seem embarrassing that people need to be reminded to replace their steering knuckles after pulling a pillow ball. A lot of folks in the Arrma groups don't seem to understand that either.
Love the in depth video though, very few people go over their entire experience with breaking parts and what they have issues with. Usually it just comes up in whatever video they break something.
Good points. Yeah, the main message I was trying to get across was that you can't just break a part and come to a conclusion. There are so many factors involved, including batch to batch QC of parts, and you have to view the breakage in context with the rest of those factors. And yeah, I haven't heard of anyone changing the knuckle after the pivot ball pulls through. It should be obvious, but I don't think people are changing that part out!
Pillow balls were made for racing. I don't think they are the best designs for bashers.
Who tf even uses pivot balls on bashers???
@@deltazero3796 Arrma and Corally!
NOT A DURABLE BASHER. TEAM CORALLY IS SPEED ORIENTED. FYI YOU START BASHING ITS GONNA GET EXPENSIVE.
I dont see any rc withstanding the ridiculous heights people jump these.
?? Arrma is based in the UK 🇬🇧 it is far easier to get arrma parts here than corally that's why I haven't bought one yet! 😉
What happened to your thumb nail?
Not only that they have horrible customer service and lie to thier customers so much so they had to resend out parts to new owners for free because they suck that bad and then they fight thier customers
Razor I've never heard you use all of these reasons or excuses for other brands or models that had issues with quality or durability. I gotta say you sounded like a bad politician on this one lol.
Ha, well the first half of the video really isn't talking about TC, it's just a primer on durability that I feel like people miss the boat on. The second half is pointing out all the stuff that breaks, and like I said, I rate the TC cars below average in durability.
Durability is not relative that's a lie scientificly thank you
You’re welcome!
@Razor RC bros mad at facts and thinks that's a comeback 😆
@@the_rc_texan it's not a comeback, it's called being polite.
Arrma knock off and not even a good one. Team Corally did give me a full refund on my kronos, after it ghosted across my LHS counter almost killing us. Weak metal, hot motors, shit transmitter ($18!). Junk.