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For my fellow skinners, in Ohn'ahran Plains find the Plains Rockfang, they spawn frequently, it's a quest area as well so generally there are people all over and I see a ton of groups doing them. Having a group to just mass pull and clear as they are all close vicinity means easy clearing and skinning isn't limited to one person anymore! Happy skinning!
I like to follow the hunt quests as they go along and just skin like crazy. On my sever there is a white drop that's something like a Bear Spine, and it's worth good money, so I'm considering trying out a location with heavy bear population.
incredible guide. i haven't taken professions seriously in forever and this crafting system really looks like a viable way to gear up while experiencing meaningful profession progression
Completely new player here 😅 just hit 60 and omw to dragonisles😂 so everything is a bit overwhelming at the moment but I'm learning as i go, this video really helped me out so thanks for that ❤️
I'm with you. Younger me would have felt pressured to min-max gold and resources by having at least one crafting profession, despite the anxiety. Kid having, full-time employed, pushing 30 me ain't got time for that nonsense.
@@ScottJanik Im pretty sure BOP items can be bought through the work order system, meaning everything will be obtainable if you are willing to pay for it.
I’m jealous! I find double-gathering to be too boring. The closest I have come is a toon with mining and enchanting, where I sell a lot of the enchanting mats. I feel like I’m exactly the target audience for this professions overhaul. :)
One thing I noticed at least for tailoring is once you hit 25 skill you need to go to Valdrakken to find the crafting tables so it’s best to not really focus on things until you’re closer to max level & can get there. Also things like cooking need materials from herbalism and/or mining to craft their first recipes.
I grabbed DF skinning as soon as I could after getting off the first boat to arrive at the waking shores on launch day. I was at 100 skinning before turning in my first set of quests! mainly because EVERYONE was there and killing skinnable proto-drakes for those quests. it was a riot!! :D
Please give us a more indepth look at each profession, kelani. I want to make gold with professions early on, but it's hard to find info on the specifics to make a real plan
i read that the pats from primal infusions came from raid OR m+ depending on key level. 11-15 gives the heroic items and 16+ the mythic items. this would make more sense as they arent locking everything behind raiding anymore.
Have my tailoring and engineering maxed and ready for dragonflight, I plan on making my gear because it will be on my own time won’t have to feel rushed through big raids schedule is too busy for that 👍🏽
The two biggest issues with old crafting were limited relevance and the ability to arbitrarily pump out however much stuff you had the materials for. Now, you can craft up to Mythic level, re-craft crafted stuff to upgrade or modify it, there is a craft cooldown so people can't plow through crafts at seconds per pop and an artisan-specific resource that limits any single character's ability to pump out some of the stuff too. A crafting system with some consequences, can't just throw a heap of gold at it and instantaneously max it out.
Great Review! Thanks a lot! A question: what do you think from your exp in beta, what ilvl of available crafted gear can we expect in 1st, 2nd week after launch and in the 1st week of season 1?
I've watched a couple profession videos, and this one is great for sure. However I still walk away a bit overwhelmed and confused. I don't know if thats a sign of a deep system, a convoluted system, or maybe I just got a dumb brain!
This actually is the ultimate generic crafting guide, I dabbled a good amount on the beta learning the basics and did some reading on posts made by other players. But this guide basically filled in the few knowledge gaps i had left. Ty for making this
Coming back to WoW after halfway through shadowlands, I am sooo confused by professions. They really didn’t do a good job explaining it in game. I was stuck for a while on my alchemist until I found out you needed the mettle and renown recipes. Also didn’t see that quest giver at the life pools at all. Thanks for the vid!
What happens if you proc an use less material on the auction house? Does the crafter get the remaining materials? Do they go back to the commissioner? Does it simply not happen?
For Herbalism, is Botany or Bountiful Harvest a better first spec? Seems like Mastering the elements is very good so I'm wondering which one to unlock last
Nice summary overall and very well presentated! I have an issue tho. Does anybody know how to get to lvl 100 Leatherworking, when literally no one used the crafting orders since release? And yes, i checked them often
Will all players have equal access to the engineering battle rez, or will it be restricted to only those who are engineers as it has been previously? I have tried to research this and have failed to find a thorough, clear, and conclusive answer. My current understanding is that everyone will have access to the engineering battle rez via the tinker item and the engineering crafted bracers that everyone can get which has the tinker slot. Please help clarify.
What's preventing people from filling crafting orders for minimal gold? Especially if they also give skillups? I don't understand how anyone will ever make gold just by filling orders if everyone will just instantly fill them for skillups
Nothing is stopping that. But the higher your commission, the faster it will be picked up by a crafter. If you pay only a little, you might have to wait 12 hrs. Thats it.
My experience as an Omni-Gatherer/Crafter in 14 has really helped me navigate these new system. They really feel like an adaption of that system brought into WoW and modified to fit into the world. WoW Borrowed a system form a game, and adapted it to their own. It's almost like they're doing what made them good in all those years of Classic to Cata.
I didn't know about this system in FF. Does it also have crafting orders ? They did the same with dragon riding by mostly copying the Griffon mount and races from Guild Wars 2, and I have to say they implemented it very well (and made a lot more races than in GW2 which is very nice).
Do you know how much Knowledge we can gate during week 1 and week 2? I wanted to make some plans regarding leveling my professions but I can't find this information.
Wow! I've heard about the professions changing but I could've never dreamt about these massive changes, my hype for this expansions just went from like a 5-6 to a 9! Great video Kelani, thanks!
Does anyone know if the new professions UI tells you if you have never crafted a particular recipe? I ask because you get a first craft bonus for the first time you craft each item. These knowledge points are spent in your profession specialization. So we will need a way to make sure that we craft everything at least once. If the UI doesn't do this, then maybe there is an Addon that will tell you the ones you have not crafted yet. We can't afford to leave profession knowledge points on the table.
can you do recraft work order? E.g. my main usually have gathering professions and alts are doing crafting. If I craft some stuff for main (I understand I can via personal workorder) can recraft it later again via work order to my alt?
Question for a casual player like me : I won't have time to raid at all because of my work, but I will probably do some M+ and get some gold. Is it better to stick to two gathering profession for casual or have at least Alchemy and Herbalism on my main? Not to mention the work orders
After what i've seen about the different profs, it doesnt really matter how much you play as long as you spend maybe 5-10 mins on dailies and maybe farm some shit. I think inscription will be a lot easier, faster and better gold than most profs
Can you explain the skill and how we can get that higher than the recipe difficulty? I have no idea where the 'skill' numbers are coming from, and for each recipe it seems its different. :/
Great video! Looks like there's a lot of miscellaneous materials that will be required which will take up a lot of bag space. Is there a separate storage system for the materials other than the reagent bag?
I kinda thought it funny that the category is named unlearned xD when did I learn them to "unlearn" them philosophy haha better go with not obtained or smth similar :D
The crafts that require soulbound reagents (the mythic stuff for exampe) - are those tradable through crafting orders? I mean could someone put up a purchase order for a mythic piece and someone who has the recipe + reagents craft/sell that, or does the guy who puts up the purchase order need to supply the soulbound reagents? Could be quite an interesting system if the former, not so much if the latter.
What happens now if you change your profession? If you unlearn one that has x amount of skills than later you change it back to the "original" profession will you lose your progression that you had or you will keep everything how it was? Just to explain I stored my soulbound drops so I can later disenchant them but atm I'm not an enchanter. If you switch to enchanter to disenchant stuff than I switch back to the profession I made progression in during the past few weeks will I have the same skill level that I had? I assume yes but don't want to take the risk :D
Back in Cata i choose to be a Blacksmith AND an Alchimist on my main. relying on my alts to gather the mats or buy at the AH. But now i'm questioning if it is still a fiable thing... For a long time i wasn't really into crafting, for me it was a tedious boring grindfest hardly worth the effort outside some "Must have" items for raiding. The new crafting is more interesting, at least for now, but i feel like i really need to choose to dedicate myself to ONE proffesion properly, and as a DK i'm leaning towards keeping smithing and ditching Alchemy and have an alt become the alchemist. Thoughts?
I havent done professions in a while. Can I pick new dragonflight professions? Like say if I was skinning and leatherworking do I have to take those or can I grab mining and smithing instead and start anew?
Can you make a recraft-craftingorder? Say I have a Hunter with leatherworking and an Evoker alt without, will I be able to craft & recraft gear for my alt?
Excellent guide and the stuff you had to cover!!! So they took the rep grinding and made it it account wide and made professions 10 times more difficult... I'd sooner have left professions alone and stayed with rep grinding. In my opinion blizz has made the rich richer and the poor poorer as people that are already rich can buy any mat they want and make more money from it. The people that work 7 days a week and have no gold are forced to buy tokens to get any fun out of their character. buying tokens is just what blizz wants them to do..
I'll just copy this reply here - Double gathering while leveling is definitely viable - and in some cases ideal. Just depends if you're happy to swap your profs around to accommodate it. You can also get artisans mettle from the knowledge gains on those gathering profs, and use it for your crafting profs at max, so that's a nice bonus too!
Can gear also downgrade when recrafting it (assuming ur original piece critted to a higher ilvl)? Cause if so, one would need a copy of each equipped crafted item to use for recrafting and swapping if u hit and upgrade
From my knowledge, the resulting item is calculated all over again. So yes, the item level can go down if you add missives and increase the difficulty, or you had an inspiration proc earlier.
I need help. On my main I have Inscription stuck at about level 55, on my alt I have skinning at 100 but my leatherworking is stuck at about 62… any ideas? I done the cobalt farm and opened some chests but feel like ive hit a plateau
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For my fellow skinners, in Ohn'ahran Plains find the Plains Rockfang, they spawn frequently, it's a quest area as well so generally there are people all over and I see a ton of groups doing them. Having a group to just mass pull and clear as they are all close vicinity means easy clearing and skinning isn't limited to one person anymore! Happy skinning!
I like to follow the hunt quests as they go along and just skin like crazy. On my sever there is a white drop that's something like a Bear Spine, and it's worth good money, so I'm considering trying out a location with heavy bear population.
incredible guide. i haven't taken professions seriously in forever and this crafting system really looks like a viable way to gear up while experiencing meaningful profession progression
Great rundown! Thanks for this, and I would definitely be interested to see more profession breakdowns in the future.
Again a great video, very clear and comprehensive! I'm soooo stoked that finally professions get the love they deserve🥳
This is the best overall guide on the new professions system I've seen. Thank you for creating it!
I just can't wait to start crafting in Dragonflight! After long years of useless crafting, we are finally getting a good system!
I thought it was supposed to be that way in Shadowland too
@@SheinelI No way, this is a pure rework of crafting! Let's hope it's going to be great
@@SheinelI I don't think Shadowlands did much, if anything, to crafting. This is substantial. It will at least be fun for a while.
Completely new player here 😅 just hit 60 and omw to dragonisles😂 so everything is a bit overwhelming at the moment but I'm learning as i go, this video really helped me out so thanks for that ❤️
Best guide I've seen so far! I learned quite a few new things- just when I thought I understood everything haha.
Amazing guide!
Sounds quite overwhelming, I'm both excited and anxious
Great video! I didnt watch it yet. Im about to start it but you know how we do!!! Keep em coming thanks man!!
Most of my toons just have gathering professions to sell instead of crafting professions. For me it’s a lot less stress and anxiety 👍🏼
I'm with you. Younger me would have felt pressured to min-max gold and resources by having at least one crafting profession, despite the anxiety. Kid having, full-time employed, pushing 30 me ain't got time for that nonsense.
@Ggx the good stuff will be soulbound and only obtainable through the crafting orders system
@@ScottJanik Im pretty sure BOP items can be bought through the work order system, meaning everything will be obtainable if you are willing to pay for it.
@@grundesakariassen1885 Yea that’s what I said
I’m jealous! I find double-gathering to be too boring. The closest I have come is a toon with mining and enchanting, where I sell a lot of the enchanting mats. I feel like I’m exactly the target audience for this professions overhaul. :)
Exactly what I needed! Was wondering how to get on with professions after more than a year Shadowlands hiatus. Thanks WoW content GOAT 🥵
One thing I noticed at least for tailoring is once you hit 25 skill you need to go to Valdrakken to find the crafting tables so it’s best to not really focus on things until you’re closer to max level & can get there. Also things like cooking need materials from herbalism and/or mining to craft their first recipes.
Thanks KIlani as always great content ! watched every second of it and took notes ! much appreciated
Love your guides, theyre pretty detailed and easy to understand. Thanks man!
I grabbed DF skinning as soon as I could after getting off the first boat to arrive at the waking shores on launch day. I was at 100 skinning before turning in my first set of quests! mainly because EVERYONE was there and killing skinnable proto-drakes for those quests. it was a riot!! :D
Please give us a more indepth look at each profession, kelani. I want to make gold with professions early on, but it's hard to find info on the specifics to make a real plan
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besides exploring the dragon isle and the dragonflight storyline, i'm really looking forward to the prof system. going to go deep into this!
wow :o I'm quite excited about professions. Now to decide which ones my main will be haha
i read that the pats from primal infusions came from raid OR m+ depending on key level. 11-15 gives the heroic items and 16+ the mythic items. this would make more sense as they arent locking everything behind raiding anymore.
Thank you so much for your content. It is very much appreciated.
Very well done video. All info in one place
Have my tailoring and engineering maxed and ready for dragonflight, I plan on making my gear because it will be on my own time won’t have to feel rushed through big raids schedule is too busy for that 👍🏽
Thanks for regularly updating this series.
Great video Kelani. Love your content!
The two biggest issues with old crafting were limited relevance and the ability to arbitrarily pump out however much stuff you had the materials for. Now, you can craft up to Mythic level, re-craft crafted stuff to upgrade or modify it, there is a craft cooldown so people can't plow through crafts at seconds per pop and an artisan-specific resource that limits any single character's ability to pump out some of the stuff too. A crafting system with some consequences, can't just throw a heap of gold at it and instantaneously max it out.
Great Review! Thanks a lot!
A question: what do you think from your exp in beta, what ilvl of available crafted gear can we expect in 1st, 2nd week after launch and in the 1st week of season 1?
I was never good at professions, but I'll definitely spend more time with them in Dragonflight.
100% thanks for the great info 🤙🏻
as a returning player this is so overwhelming
Very nice work here man! Definitely interested in profession specific videos!
Thank you so much for this 😀
When you're upgrading your crafted gear, can you use an embellishments than as well? Or only when you're originally creating the piece?
I've watched a couple profession videos, and this one is great for sure. However I still walk away a bit overwhelmed and confused. I don't know if thats a sign of a deep system, a convoluted system, or maybe I just got a dumb brain!
You’re not alone. I’m feeling overwhelmed.
Thank you!
best guide out there, thanks!
This actually is the ultimate generic crafting guide, I dabbled a good amount on the beta learning the basics and did some reading on posts made by other players. But this guide basically filled in the few knowledge gaps i had left. Ty for making this
Agreed, a great overview
Coming back to WoW after halfway through shadowlands, I am sooo confused by professions. They really didn’t do a good job explaining it in game. I was stuck for a while on my alchemist until I found out you needed the mettle and renown recipes. Also didn’t see that quest giver at the life pools at all. Thanks for the vid!
Fantastic guide!
thanks so much Kelani!
awsome content always ! ty lots
Great vid dude!
Thank god for you .... This crafting almost cost me a monitor and a wall to need a repair :S .. Atleast less frustratet about not knowing now
does it make sense to just go double gathering on your main and buy all the needed stuff via crafting orders?
Great vid bro thx
Quality content as always!
How good do you guys think it would be to go with inscription and herbalism on my main?
Excellent guide.
can you place an order for a BoP item and log off and craft it with your own alt?
great guide
Will the mats for crafting mythic like gear be available to buy on AH or bop?
What happens if you proc an use less material on the auction house? Does the crafter get the remaining materials? Do they go back to the commissioner? Does it simply not happen?
Thank you
Great guide 👍
For Herbalism, is Botany or Bountiful Harvest a better first spec? Seems like Mastering the elements is very good so I'm wondering which one to unlock last
Nice summary overall and very well presentated!
I have an issue tho. Does anybody know how to get to lvl 100 Leatherworking, when literally no one used the crafting orders since release? And yes, i checked them often
Will all players have equal access to the engineering battle rez, or will it be restricted to only those who are engineers as it has been previously? I have tried to research this and have failed to find a thorough, clear, and conclusive answer. My current understanding is that everyone will have access to the engineering battle rez via the tinker item and the engineering crafted bracers that everyone can get which has the tinker slot. Please help clarify.
What's preventing people from filling crafting orders for minimal gold? Especially if they also give skillups? I don't understand how anyone will ever make gold just by filling orders if everyone will just instantly fill them for skillups
Nothing is stopping that. But the higher your commission, the faster it will be picked up by a crafter. If you pay only a little, you might have to wait 12 hrs. Thats it.
what about secondary proffesions? like cooking, does that have a crafting system like this? or is that one more basic?
My experience as an Omni-Gatherer/Crafter in 14 has really helped me navigate these new system. They really feel like an adaption of that system brought into WoW and modified to fit into the world.
WoW Borrowed a system form a game, and adapted it to their own. It's almost like they're doing what made them good in all those years of Classic to Cata.
I didn't know about this system in FF. Does it also have crafting orders ?
They did the same with dragon riding by mostly copying the Griffon mount and races from Guild Wars 2, and I have to say they implemented it very well (and made a lot more races than in GW2 which is very nice).
Do you know how much Knowledge we can gate during week 1 and week 2? I wanted to make some plans regarding leveling my professions but I can't find this information.
Wow! I've heard about the professions changing but I could've never dreamt about these massive changes, my hype for this expansions just went from like a 5-6 to a 9! Great video Kelani, thanks!
@Kelani - Do items drop with sockets for jewels or is there a way to add sockets to gear???
Does anyone know if the new professions UI tells you if you have never crafted a particular recipe? I ask because you get a first craft bonus for the first time you craft each item. These knowledge points are spent in your profession specialization. So we will need a way to make sure that we craft everything at least once. If the UI doesn't do this, then maybe there is an Addon that will tell you the ones you have not crafted yet. We can't afford to leave profession knowledge points on the table.
so if mail armorcrafting is in leatherworking does that mean I should use skinning alongside it
Can you grab gathering professions for leveling and gold making at 60 then drop them for crafting at 70? Or will you be too behind ?
can you do recraft work order? E.g. my main usually have gathering professions and alts are doing crafting. If I craft some stuff for main (I understand I can via personal workorder) can recraft it later again via work order to my alt?
Does the higher skill-up uses less material like now in pre patch?
So completely new to wow, would it benefit me to have a character dedicated to crafting? If so do you have a suggestion to race or anything like that?
this is going to be insane
I am not sure with the current AH, how prices will stabilize and will things be cheaper or more expensive?
Sounds really fun.
so if you're a new player.. wait until you start the dragonflight area in order to get the right materials?
Question for a casual player like me :
I won't have time to raid at all because of my work, but I will probably do some M+ and get some gold. Is it better to stick to two gathering profession for casual or have at least Alchemy and Herbalism on my main? Not to mention the work orders
After what i've seen about the different profs, it doesnt really matter how much you play as long as you spend maybe 5-10 mins on dailies and maybe farm some shit. I think inscription will be a lot easier, faster and better gold than most profs
I feel like I'm going to become a real life alchemist or engineer after all this info.
Woo! hero wars shout out!
Can you only recraft things for yourself or can you recraft via work orders?
Im dont think i will do profession but still not sure how public/private trade work to order a gear from stranger
I'm a returning player do I need to do anything for professions or can I jump right into dragonflight
Best guide video ever.
Can you add an embelishment during recrafting when it's not already on there?
Can you explain the skill and how we can get that higher than the recipe difficulty? I have no idea where the 'skill' numbers are coming from, and for each recipe it seems its different. :/
Can you complete a crafting order on an alt?
So if I'm on a new character that hasn't levelled any profession, do I need to do before I start dragon flight?
Great video! Looks like there's a lot of miscellaneous materials that will be required which will take up a lot of bag space. Is there a separate storage system for the materials other than the reagent bag?
The bank
You have literally 30x the storage you did before DF
I kinda thought it funny that the category is named unlearned xD when did I learn them to "unlearn" them philosophy haha better go with not obtained or smth similar :D
The crafts that require soulbound reagents (the mythic stuff for exampe) - are those tradable through crafting orders? I mean could someone put up a purchase order for a mythic piece and someone who has the recipe + reagents craft/sell that, or does the guy who puts up the purchase order need to supply the soulbound reagents? Could be quite an interesting system if the former, not so much if the latter.
the soulbound reagents need to be supplied by the person who will use the item
Is there any reason I can't powerlevel crafting on an alt kept at 60 and focus on leveling Double Gatherers to start?
How do you get the crafting details to show?
What happens now if you change your profession? If you unlearn one that has x amount of skills than later you change it back to the "original" profession will you lose your progression that you had or you will keep everything how it was? Just to explain I stored my soulbound drops so I can later disenchant them but atm I'm not an enchanter. If you switch to enchanter to disenchant stuff than I switch back to the profession I made progression in during the past few weeks will I have the same skill level that I had? I assume yes but don't want to take the risk :D
Back in Cata i choose to be a Blacksmith AND an Alchimist on my main.
relying on my alts to gather the mats or buy at the AH.
But now i'm questioning if it is still a fiable thing...
For a long time i wasn't really into crafting, for me it was a tedious boring grindfest hardly worth the effort outside some "Must have" items for raiding.
The new crafting is more interesting, at least for now, but i feel like i really need to choose to dedicate myself to ONE proffesion properly, and as a DK i'm leaning towards keeping smithing and ditching Alchemy and have an alt become the alchemist.
Thoughts?
I havent done professions in a while. Can I pick new dragonflight professions? Like say if I was skinning and leatherworking do I have to take those or can I grab mining and smithing instead and start anew?
Can you make a recraft-craftingorder? Say I have a Hunter with leatherworking and an Evoker alt without, will I be able to craft & recraft gear for my alt?
Yup! Recrafting is available as a crafting order, so you can make that a private order to your alt if you want to.
Excellent guide and the stuff you had to cover!!! So they took the rep grinding and made it it account wide and made professions 10 times more difficult... I'd sooner have left professions alone and stayed with rep grinding. In my opinion blizz has made the rich richer and the poor poorer as people that are already rich can buy any mat they want and make more money from it. The people that work 7 days a week and have no gold are forced to buy tokens to get any fun out of their character. buying tokens is just what blizz wants them to do..
Would it be optimal to do double gathering while leveling and then switch one of the gathering profs to a crafting at max level?
I'll just copy this reply here - Double gathering while leveling is definitely viable - and in some cases ideal. Just depends if you're happy to swap your profs around to accommodate it. You can also get artisans mettle from the knowledge gains on those gathering profs, and use it for your crafting profs at max, so that's a nice bonus too!
@@SignsOfKelani thanks Kelani!
Also, great content as always!
any good addons or weakaura for mining?
Does the Mechagnome racial count as the new crafting stations aswell?
Can gear also downgrade when recrafting it (assuming ur original piece critted to a higher ilvl)? Cause if so, one would need a copy of each equipped crafted item to use for recrafting and swapping if u hit and upgrade
From my knowledge, the resulting item is calculated all over again. So yes, the item level can go down if you add missives and increase the difficulty, or you had an inspiration proc earlier.
I need help. On my main I have Inscription stuck at about level 55, on my alt I have skinning at 100 but my leatherworking is stuck at about 62… any ideas? I done the cobalt farm and opened some chests but feel like ive hit a plateau