For me, the ideas in czcams.com/users/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.
Extra Tip: If you dont know how many steps to use then use a common riser height such as 7 or 8 inches. Divide your total rise by 7 or 8 and you'll get a number for the number of steps. You may get a number with a fraction, if so then you'll round that number up. You'll now divide the total rise by your new number of steps to get a new riser height for each step. (If your new riser height seems to look too short of a step then use 7, if it's too high of a step then use 8 as your common riser height)
Around here, 7-3/4" is the maximum allowable rise per the building code. Might want to check, so e.g. when the insurance company does a periodic inspection they don't make you re-do it to keep your house insurance. And so Grandma (yours or someone else's) won't have trouble getting up and down your deck stairs.
If you cut one more rise and run and notch so it continues into the landing you will not need the hardware. Simply nail to joist or to block. Stairs will cantilever and give better support. Nice job but I would have explained that I had a piece of the decking on deck when I took the measurement finish deck to landing. Just seeing it there could be missed. Carpenter for 52 years here cut a few, Donnas husband Greg
Hey Greg, I think I understand what you're saying. I recorded a quick screen grab on Sketchup explaining what I *think* you're saying. Would you mind verifying if I interpreted that correctly please? czcams.com/video/p4WHrqZvn_0/video.html Thank you
I like what you showed and described about basic stair stringers. I have a couple of questions... 1. Is it important to factor in the tread nose? 2. When you mentioned the "front" of the stringer does that include the thickness dimension of the riser from the landing to the underside of the tread? 3. What hanger device did you use to attach the stringer to the rim joist? Thanks
My 2 brothers were carpenters I learned a lot from them but they never had a chance to show me how to do steps well they both have passed away so thanks for the tips
Exactly! He just measured the rise and run away from the end of the board with zero info on his starting point. Make a tutorial with all the info or do what this guy did and let some of us guess. 😳😳🙄
He said his treads will be about 11”, his schematic showed a 10 7/8” riser cut, and he marked a 10 3/4” cut on his stringer. Try that with a stringer that is carrying many stairs and see what happens to your run.
When you initially divided the rise you came up with 6 5/8th inches and when you were measuring it out, you were measuring 6 7/8ths. And the music was too loud for a teaching video.
i feel like a moron the 5 7/8 and 6 7/8 still confuses mee. because when I look at the diagram at 0:46 in the measurement appaers to exclude the thickness of the two boards up top making subtracting the inch meaningless. Am I missing something?
The finished deck is 20 5/8". So the goal is to have 3 steps that are 6 7/8" each, 3 close to identical steps. Hard to describe If your decking is 1" and you cut your 2 risers @ 6 7/8", then when you add your decking/treads, your bottom step is gonna be 7 7/8", an inch taller. And if all your treads are level then your top step (the deck/3rd step) will be an inch smaller. All of your rises have to equal your total rise of your framing. His total rise of the finished deck is 20 5/8" - 1" decking = 19 5/8" (he measured off of a deck board) 19 5/8" is the framing height So, 6 7/8 + 6 7/8 + 5 7/8 = 19 5/8" I'm sure this make no sense.
That block of wood is the top. He hasn’t installed his deck boards on the frame yet. The block simulated the deck board and the finished height of the deck.
You inspired me to build my shed. Unfortunately I ordered my lumber from Lowes and got complete junk. They failed to pick it up as well. My dream is mostly ruined but I will try and salvage what I have. I'm going to Home Depot for future lumber.
The video was great. The music is a total distraction. This is teaching video. If viewers knew how to measure a riser, they could rock out and forget about the content but....that's not the case. Keep 'em coming. Thanks.
Diagram showing dimensions says 10 7/8” run but his mouth says 10 3/4” last I checked 7/8 = 14/16ths and 3/4 = 12/16ths. Wouldn’t it be helpful to be correct about everything you say when trying to be the teacher 👨🏫?
that's true. Time to get facts down not some damn tune. Also at 2:35, he jumped into another cut. Note all pencil marks look the same...all the same !!! So...I say.... hang there for a second or three...and so guys like me...won't have to replay. that's frustrating. So I give you a 'thumbs down''.
I don’t think anyone in the history of framing has ever learned how to cut stringers except by doing it. Every video I’ve watched is just too confusing
Well....feeling frustated for not understanding simple math is very common among dumb people, luckily for you there are already made stringers...thank you Home depot!! Haha
Good for you!!....it doesnt mattter if you are a dumb or slow learner person bro!!...as long as you keep your initiative and proactivness, you'll be fine.
Yes that's exactly what I was thinking if you take off an inch From The Bottom the entire Stringer is going to drop down an inch or the whole thing will be on an angle you can't just take off an inch at the bottom that's the problem I'm running into right now
Instructions are good but I couldn't continue listening . . . music, as on most TV shows today, far too loud. It's supposed to be "background" music!!!
I've done it this way for years. Until I learned its wrong. Top tread cut sould be flush to top of deck framing and first riser from top should be flush to the back side of finished band material. If you study deck framing layout pictures you will see how much better this is. Just my opinion though
@Bob Hoffman I'm sorry that you lack the ability to concentrate with music playing. Some people can handle it and other's can't, it's obvious your simple brain cannot handle more than one thing going on. Attempting to insult me only reinforces my assessment. When one has no real argument, start name calling. A true sign of a moron. Good day sir.
@Bob Hoffman Why are you yelling? You must have anger issues. I understand that some people don't like the music, that's why I made my original comment. I thought that was pretty obvious. If I watch a video and am not liking their teaching style, the production, or or whatever, I stop the video and find another. Apparently you watched more than one because you commented about a different video you liked better. Isn't it easier to just watch the other video and move on than to make negative comments just for the sake of being ornery and get worked up in the comment section and risk a heart attack? I picture you angrily typing away red faced with a large being popping out if the side of your head. You're probably grumbling and yelled at your wife when she asked if everything was ok. It's just youtube. There is always a different video to watch and you always have to option to make your own if you aren't happy with this person's content. I got home last night and on my 7 days off, so I will leave you now so that I can enjoy my week with my family and my dogs. Maybe If I ger a notification that you replied, I may check on you, but not till I go back to my second home next week. I have more time to kill after hours during my work week than my off week. Good Day.
@Bob Hoffman P.S. I do know the difference between plural and a possessive. What happened there is what old timers call a typographical error. My predictive text added the apostrophe because that's how it was used the last time I used the word and I didn't catch it before submitting the comment.
Extra Tip: When laying out with your framing square onto the stringer, be sure to pay attention 2:14 to the rounding of your board. When you lay out your next step you want to move it ahead slightly because the rounding of the board you're laying out on can cause you to lose a bit to your riser if you lay out the next step too close to the pervious mark. It may only be a 1/16 or 1/8 but for many steps this will add up if you dont pay attention and your last step will end up way too short from the landing. Imagine that your lines extend to the TRUE edge of the board and follow your best step layout as if they were to connect with the rounding of the board into consideration
Even tho the video seemed helpful I had to turn it off long before it was over. I couldn't spend another second straining to hear the information through the load annoying music. It's sad when a good video gets ruined like this.
All these " Experts " that look like they have never worked a day in their life as a carpenter .. Will inform the masses on how to build stairs .. Look at the diagram .. No indication of the sized gap .. Typical wanna -be architect that doesn't fill in the data .. I can see this guy is a novice and shouldn't be offering advice .. 38 freakin years as a Master Carpenter here .. and I see the BS .. Click Like ..
How do I know what the total run will be for my stairs? They will be attached to my house down to a concrete pad, and the pad is plenty big so I’m not sure how far out to measure from the house. Would the basic 11in run and 7in rise be fine to use for my stringers?
For me, the ideas in czcams.com/users/postUgkxy_pn55PK60wAV3X_C_RoLS_67mNonoCE Plans were a starting point for building different sheds . Ryan gives ideas that allow an individual to draw nicest conclusions into the design and building of his or her own shed.
I watched many confusing videos after I finally found yours. Best explanation ever. Thank you 👌
I watched this video and referenced it as I was making stringers for my stairs. They turned out perfect. Thank you
Just what i needed thanks!
best job and good teaching.
Best explanation and example, thanks.
First time cutting stringers and they came out great with your instruction. Thank you.
Good tip showing the use of a hand saw to make those clean inside cuts
Great info. Thanks for keeping it clean. God bless
nice job. Thanks
Extra Tip: If you dont know how many steps to use then use a common riser height such as 7 or 8 inches. Divide your total rise by 7 or 8 and you'll get a number for the number of steps. You may get a number with a fraction, if so then you'll round that number up. You'll now divide the total rise by your new number of steps to get a new riser height for each step. (If your new riser height seems to look too short of a step then use 7, if it's too high of a step then use 8 as your common riser height)
This is a good tip of you're building a set of story stairs or up too a landing if you can't calculate the amount of steps needed by looking at it
Around here, 7-3/4" is the maximum allowable rise per the building code. Might want to check, so e.g. when the insurance company does a periodic inspection they don't make you re-do it to keep your house insurance. And so Grandma (yours or someone else's) won't have trouble getting up and down your deck stairs.
Great video.
Muy interesante, gracias! Saludis desde Perù
Great job is the same for steel tube?
If you cut one more rise and run and notch so it continues into the landing you will not need the hardware. Simply nail to joist or to block. Stairs will cantilever and give better support. Nice job but I would have explained that I had a piece of the decking on deck when I took the measurement finish deck to landing. Just seeing it there could be missed. Carpenter for 52 years here cut a few, Donnas husband Greg
Hey Greg, I think I understand what you're saying. I recorded a quick screen grab on Sketchup explaining what I *think* you're saying. Would you mind verifying if I interpreted that correctly please?
czcams.com/video/p4WHrqZvn_0/video.html
Thank you
Distracting music but good info, thanks!
A quarter inch difference in individual stair height will create a three quarter discrepancy in overall height. Measure twice.
Cut once,ha
NIce. Thanks!
I like what you showed and described about basic stair stringers. I have a couple of questions...
1. Is it important to factor in the tread nose?
2. When you mentioned the "front" of the stringer does that include the thickness dimension of the riser from the landing to the underside of the tread?
3. What hanger device did you use to attach the stringer to the rim joist?
Thanks
Thanks 👍🏾
Thanks your video was really helpful thanks again man
My 2 brothers were carpenters I learned a lot from them but they never had a chance to show me how to do steps well they both have passed away so thanks for the tips
do you account for the thickness of the treads when you cutting, if my treads are going to be 3 inches thick should I factor that in as well
Tom Silva. He is the master to go to
I can hear everything, thanks..Alohas
When he is cutting how is the wood or moving around ?
Nice work , great explanation! 👍
The tread is x. How many do you make. Don’t you have to take into account the length of the run to see how many stairs to cut?
Thank u
how do you know where to make the first mark and start measuring on your stringer?
Exactly! He just measured the rise and run away from the end of the board with zero info on his starting point. Make a tutorial with all the info or do what this guy did and let some of us guess. 😳😳🙄
Here from aprils vid
Nice vid thx for the information
One of the most complicated stair explanations I’ve seen --
I understood first time trap builder
First thing to check is that the edges (or lines you are measuring to) on the lumber for the stringers are straight.
Nice trap bro
He said his treads will be about 11”, his schematic showed a 10 7/8” riser cut, and he marked a 10 3/4” cut on his stringer. Try that with a stringer that is carrying many stairs and see what happens to your run.
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When we have good framers we don’t have to yell at, we want to keep them lol.
When you initially divided the rise you came up with 6 5/8th inches and when you were measuring it out, you were measuring 6 7/8ths. And the music was too loud for a teaching video.
Well if you do the math it does equal to 6 7/8ths.
20-5/8 : 3 = 6-7/8
I was just hearing what he said at 1:30 he said 6 5/8”.
@@jrlavalley misspoke I guess
You should of shown how you added more backing for the stringers to be secured to!!
Fanks!
I can hear his voice very well!!
at 1:51 - you say the run is 10 3/4. Why is it not 10 7/8? will the steps have a 1/4 overhand instead of a 1/8 overhang?
How did you know where on the 2x12 to start drawing your lines - you don't explain that.
In all the videos I’ve ever watched they just seem to start from an arbitrary point.
I’ve always wondered where do you start?
C clamp a small board to the framing square to avoid mistakes.
Or buy a pair of cheap stair gauges. That’s what they’re for and a lot easier to work with.
I want see more
i feel like a moron the 5 7/8 and 6 7/8 still confuses mee. because when I look at the diagram at 0:46 in the measurement appaers to exclude the thickness of the two boards up top making subtracting the inch meaningless. Am I missing something?
The finished deck is 20 5/8". So the goal is to have 3 steps that are 6 7/8" each, 3 close to identical steps.
Hard to describe
If your decking is 1" and you cut your 2 risers @ 6 7/8", then when you add your decking/treads, your bottom step is gonna be 7 7/8", an inch taller. And if all your treads are level then your top step (the deck/3rd step) will be an inch smaller.
All of your rises have to equal your total rise of your framing.
His total rise of the finished deck is 20 5/8" - 1" decking = 19 5/8" (he measured off of a deck board)
19 5/8" is the framing height
So, 6 7/8 + 6 7/8 + 5 7/8 = 19 5/8"
I'm sure this make no sense.
Excellent demonstration. One suggestion for creating a video. Kill the music please. It's distracting to many viewers.
Music too loud
Just bought pre made stringers
In the drawing run shows 10 7/8, but was cut 10 3/4.......... did I miss something?
"from the top of the decking," right, thus you measure off that block of wood.
That block of wood is the top. He hasn’t installed his deck boards on the frame yet. The block simulated the deck board and the finished height of the deck.
You inspired me to build my shed. Unfortunately I ordered my lumber from Lowes and got complete junk. They failed to pick it up as well. My dream is mostly ruined but I will try and salvage what I have. I'm going to Home Depot for future lumber.
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The video was great. The music is a total distraction. This is teaching video. If viewers knew how to measure a riser, they could rock out and forget about the content but....that's not the case. Keep 'em coming. Thanks.
6-5/8 or 6-7/8 rise which is it, fail
The math says 6 7/8.
how do you turn off that distracting music??
The background music is pretty distracting
Thank you...but I turned you off early...needless background music.
Geez turn the music down next time. Really unnecessary and I can barely hear you.
You look like Jerry Cantrell.
Diagram showing dimensions says 10 7/8” run but his mouth says 10 3/4” last I checked 7/8 = 14/16ths and 3/4 = 12/16ths. Wouldn’t it be helpful to be correct about everything you say when trying to be the teacher 👨🏫?
the background music was anyoning...I want to hear u not the muisc
i enjoyed it.
There was music?
For whatever reason I’ve watched several videos and I just don’t get it
Sorry I can't hear what you're saying. Someone is playing rock music over the top of your audio.
that's true. Time to get facts down not some damn tune. Also at 2:35, he jumped into another cut. Note all pencil marks look the same...all the same !!! So...I say.... hang there for a second or three...and so guys like me...won't have to replay. that's frustrating. So I give you a 'thumbs down''.
and you never explained the 10 7/8 number..
This is a good video but the music was very distracting and not needed.
You illustrated your run to be 10 7/8"....then built the stringer at 10 3/4"
The music is too loud. I am trying to hear you talk over that music.
I don’t think anyone in the history of framing has ever learned how to cut stringers except by doing it. Every video I’ve watched is just too confusing
Well....feeling frustated for not understanding simple math is very common among dumb people, luckily for you there are already made stringers...thank you Home depot!! Haha
@@Nayo68 That was unnecessarily rude.
Good tip! I did a stair calculator but came up short since I didnt account for the FINISHED floor when I determined the TOTAL rise.
Just my opinion with all the jump cuts your confusing me. In placements of square. Ijs
My head hurts from all this math I’m just gonna buy one pre made stair stringer and draw it on a couple more boards 😂
Good for you!!....it doesnt mattter if you are a dumb or slow learner person bro!!...as long as you keep your initiative and proactivness, you'll be fine.
@@Nayo68 😂😂😂😂🤦♂️
Then you’re completely stuck with whatever set layout the pre-made stringer is.
Get some Stair guages
Do not think he has cut many stairs, I always used my brass nuts one my square so the rise and run marking would be the same every time....
Music wouldn't let me get far into the video. Kill the music and get back with me.
If you subtract for last rise, then your first rise will be longer
Yes that's exactly what I was thinking if you take off an inch From The Bottom the entire Stringer is going to drop down an inch or the whole thing will be on an angle you can't just take off an inch at the bottom that's the problem I'm running into right now
Instructions are good but I couldn't continue listening . . . music, as on most TV shows today, far too loud. It's supposed to be "background" music!!!
Awesome, thank you! Made this complex job super-simple. Once I watched it five times and it sunk in. :-)
this is definitely not a "BASIC" stringer, this is more "CUSTOM"
loose the music drowns out your voice too much.
I've done it this way for years. Until I learned its wrong. Top tread cut sould be flush to top of deck framing and first riser from top should be flush to the back side of finished band material. If you study deck framing layout pictures you will see how much better this is. Just my opinion though
That’s not true. I build decks in Williamsburg Virginia, you can do it both ways.
Why you divided the rise measurment by 3.....no explanation on why 3?
I've heard good feedback about the Woodprix plans.
This is a confusing video showing you work on opposite side and some how making a perpendicular line.. what?
Yes, you can hear his voice but the music is unnecessary and annoying.
The background music was just noise, a distraction. Thanks for the information.
Herobrine Studios go fuck yourself
Way too fast have to stop and rewind hundred times
Why do so many youtube videos have such crappy music? Annoying as hell.
Because good music gets yanked for copyright :-(
It's not as annoying as people complaining about the music.
@Bob Hoffman I'm sorry that you lack the ability to concentrate with music playing. Some people can handle it and other's can't, it's obvious your simple brain cannot handle more than one thing going on. Attempting to insult me only reinforces my assessment. When one has no real argument, start name calling. A true sign of a moron. Good day sir.
@Bob Hoffman Why are you yelling? You must have anger issues. I understand that some people don't like the music, that's why I made my original comment. I thought that was pretty obvious. If I watch a video and am not liking their teaching style, the production, or or whatever, I stop the video and find another. Apparently you watched more than one because you commented about a different video you liked better. Isn't it easier to just watch the other video and move on than to make negative comments just for the sake of being ornery and get worked up in the comment section and risk a heart attack? I picture you angrily typing away red faced with a large being popping out if the side of your head. You're probably grumbling and yelled at your wife when she asked if everything was ok. It's just youtube. There is always a different video to watch and you always have to option to make your own if you aren't happy with this person's content. I got home last night and on my 7 days off, so I will leave you now so that I can enjoy my week with my family and my dogs. Maybe If I ger a notification that you replied, I may check on you, but not till I go back to my second home next week. I have more time to kill after hours during my work week than my off week. Good Day.
@Bob Hoffman P.S. I do know the difference between plural and a possessive. What happened there is what old timers call a typographical error. My predictive text added the apostrophe because that's how it was used the last time I used the word and I didn't catch it before submitting the comment.
Just couldn't watch it, the music was too intrusive. Pity.
This is not simplified
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kill the music
7/11...
Extra Tip: When laying out with your framing square onto the stringer, be sure to pay attention 2:14 to the rounding of your board. When you lay out your next step you want to move it ahead slightly because the rounding of the board you're laying out on can cause you to lose a bit to your riser if you lay out the next step too close to the pervious mark. It may only be a 1/16 or 1/8 but for many steps this will add up if you dont pay attention and your last step will end up way too short from the landing. Imagine that your lines extend to the TRUE edge of the board and follow your best step layout as if they were to connect with the rounding of the board into consideration
I cannot listen to this- the music is pointless distraction.
The very part I needed wasn’t in the video. How tf do I cut my top and bottom of my steps
Even tho the video seemed helpful I had to turn it off long before it was over. I couldn't spend another second straining to hear the information through the load annoying music. It's sad when a good video gets ruined like this.
Dude. Do you have Parkinson’s or just nervous?
Parkinson’s?
All these " Experts " that look like they have never worked a day in their life as a carpenter .. Will inform the masses on how to build stairs .. Look at the diagram .. No indication of the sized gap .. Typical wanna -be architect that doesn't fill in the data .. I can see this guy is a novice and shouldn't be offering advice .. 38 freakin years as a Master Carpenter here .. and I see the BS .. Click Like ..
I haven't built stairs in a year, good refresher course for work tomorrow.
How do I know what the total run will be for my stairs? They will be attached to my house down to a concrete pad, and the pad is plenty big so I’m not sure how far out to measure from the house. Would the basic 11in run and 7in rise be fine to use for my stringers?
Amanda Kaye 7 inch rise is a little high. If you have the space try to keep it between 5 and 6 inches.