When I was a carpenter apprentice in 1998 I took the house framing course and our course was based on Larry and joe haun’s video series. I never forgot those lessons taught. I’m 52 and ready to retire in a few years and any chance I get I try to teach an apprentice who is willing to learn.
Larry was the real thing. One of the most accomplished carpenters I've ever seen in my life time. A very kind professional that openly shared his knowledge & skill with the rest of us! Thank you Larry.
I miss this guy so much. 30+ years ago, as a young carpenter, I read Fine Homebuilding articles by Larry Haun. No CZcams or internet then. I literally used what I read the very next day. Larry you were a kind man and a great carpenter! Love hearing the ring of that Dalluge hammer he used! I still have my tape wrapped Dalluge 21 oz steel head hammer!
@@1982Mattyb titanium hammers came along 25 years ago or so. Before that, the best balanced California Framer type hammer was a Dalluge. Steel. These modern titanium hammers are light. Let’s face it, most good framers rarely use a hammer. It makes sense to carry the lightest hammer you can. Even 30 years ago I went from 26 to 24 and finally a 21 oz steel Dalluge. Larry Haun came from a time (circa 1949) when nail guns were rare, expensive, heavy and pretty unreliable. The Mid 80s brought the Hitachi NR83 and it changed things. I learned to frame in a time when guys could really hand drive nails. The older guys were scary fast. Even at age 62, with my old Dalluge, I bet I could thrash most 25 year olds hand nailing today. Most modern framers never will become anywhere as proficient as a guy like Larry Haun. They don’t need to. With these cordless Framing guns, they are really fast. Today I’m a construction superintendent, I’ve got an old Dalluge, a few Plumb rigging axes, 2 NR83a1 Hitachi nailers and a new Milwaukee 18v cordless nailer. For the rare 16d nails I need to drive, which one do you think I grab? Haha. Good luck kid. Don’t smash your thumb!!!
@@mcbridecreek I'm 42🤘, we use a lot of paslode or phnumatic nailers nowadays. I do everything from the concrete up, basically concrete to turnkey minus the major subs. I was a roofer for over a decade started back in the late 90s. We hand banged everything so I totally understand the advice about the thumb, spinning nails at a fast pace can have you with strawberry jelly coming out the side of your finger. I learned framing from Larry Hans book and a red seal who was trained very well and educated in Larry's skillsets as well. I love framing, I'll do it until my body won't let me anymore. We just closed an 8000sq ft cabin, yesterday was cleanup an exit day. On to the next 🤘
@@1982Mattyb It’s proper for men over 60, to call anyone under 40 kid! Sorry I broke the rule. Sounds like you have the experience to understand what young carpenters never will! I was a framing contractor in the 90s. We had good tools but not like today. Paslode 1/2” crown staplers, so good and Hitachi framing nail guns. Best wishes
@@mcbridecreek np at all, I didn't mind I was just throwing out my age to help my story, that I started in the late 90s. I have the upmost respect for what the guys before me like yourself did and how you guys got things done , cheers 👍
Larry H. You may have graduated but the skill and knowledge you left us, you will always be remembered and appreciated whenever we built a STAIRCASE. Thank you.
I been building houses for 40 yrs and this man is the real deal old school very explanatory the best on the internet. I frame houses the same way. This guy knows his stuff
Most carpenters including myself frame pretty much the same way. What other way is there? Basic set of stairs any 3rd year apprentice should be able to build with ease. What is the old school way?
I am a custom home builder. I worked with many different pro trades. But non of them could amaze me as Larry Haun do. He is phenomena and I love to sit back and watch his video for hours again and again. I am an old man with tons of DIY job in my resume. I think I know how things work. But when I watch Larry video I lose my confidence. LoL
Love this dude, he was a contributor to Fine Home Building back in the 80’s, great production framing tips, you can tell he honed his carpentry skills before air tools became dominant, he always used that worm drive saw and efficiency and speed were main points in his articles
Oh, wow. I bought a book Roof framing about 16 years ago. He was in all of the pictures of the section of gable, dutch and hip roofs. With the same hammer and same looking. Thank you Sir. The book helped me a lot and still does here and there.
That’s Larry Haun, he’s a legend any framer that’s been doing it for awhile knows who he is. This is from a video series that are based on his main book The Very Efficient Carpenter where he builds a house with one other guy using a hammer, and a circular saw, and gets it done quick
It is mesmerazing to watch how he hits the nails so strongly and gets straight in, not a single one bended in the hole video. Thanks, the best video so far I found for my DYI project. Bravo !
Nice video. I’m no carpenter but my dad was and he was old school no nail guns did lots of cuts with hand saws. I was happy to see you drive those nails in with just a few blows of the hammer it brought back memories of my dad. Keep up the good work.
My goodness Larry sure knew how to wield a hammer! When you see an artisan at work you think this is easy! It's sad that Larry is no longer with us but l'll be happy if l leave a similar legacy.
Always good to know how to swing a hammer. A lot of guys look defeated when nailing by hand becomes a possibility. Even more impressive when you can switch hands and still nail.
I have been a carpenter for 33 years now and Larry is one of the best I have ever seen for making things simple and easy to understand. He is a legend in the framing industry. RIP
I didn’t know him, he made those videos the same year I went into the carpenters union. I understand carpentry really well, I mostly build stairs and cut some roofs here and there. Some people just complicate things and he made everything easy to understand.
Binged his DVDs for 3 weeks every night about 6 yrs ago. The ting sound from his hammer strikes drove me mad but I gained enough confidence to complete the project I was on.
this is great! you can see the late 80s pickup in the back of the shot, no safety gear. No nail gun or screws. His saw/hammer technique is amazing, fast and efficient. I wish I could work with someone like that.
Thank You for your work. And yes you are a framer / form carpenter. Nothing wrong with that. 1. I never ever cut through the load bearing part of a stair jack / stringer or a rafter. Yes it takes more time to use a hand or saber saw but percentage wise that 1/2" of material on the compression side will place more lateral force on the tension side. Unless there is a wall under neath never cut into the Pattern or Jack. 2. On the Jack / Stringer adjacent to the wall I sometimes put a 1x4 if no skirt boards or even 2x4 between the wall and the jack so Drywall and the Skirt Board don't need to notch out and makes for a far superior finished product. 3. The run needs to be made when dealing with Oak or Ash Treads to work. As you know they typically get an Overhang and a trim piece on the riser below the tread nosing. Thank You for teaching this. I am retired Industrial GC and built many millions of dollars of work. In many trades.. Ran a trim crew doing residential at 19. Stair as you know can eat up a lotta time. Especially natural wood. No Caulking allowed. Great Video.. I know you know all I have pointed out but the carpenters coming up don't. Thanks Again
"Larry Haun" ay? What a legend. A nail in two strokes, and the hands of a thousand year old artisan. Makes making a new flight of stairs look as simple as filling your car with oil. Respect. And will build 🙏
I moved into my home two years ago next month and early on knew I had to replace my stairs. While figuring out exactly how the hell to do that, I found this video. Then I just did not get to the project. But now I'm redoing my basement and am finally getting around to rebuilding the stairs, and I could not find this video to save my life. I'm so glad I stumbled on it again, no other video I've found has been even half as informative.
Never seen this geezer before but what a legend. Couldn’t believe his knack with measuring and the Skil Saw but then saw him using a hammer. Why can’t I find tradesman like this?
Dumbasses took trades out of the schools. I grew up with it but don't know if it's still there. Wood shop in middle school. Welding and machining in high school. My high school built a house every year. Know it's biting them back because they pushed college more than trades and now the peduleum is swinging back the other way.
If anyone wants to see the full video series that Larry Haun made on framing houses without the annoying music or drawings just search "Larry Haun how to frame a house." They are great videos.
Many years ago, due to replacement costs, I re-used a factory made stair string that was bowed. I managed to hide the issue but new stairs made like this would have been so much easier. Probably considerably save on cost as well.
Excellent video - of course I’m watching because I’m soon to build a set of stairs on a diy project and I have not cut a set of stringer in about a decade.
Good video of oldschool pros. Remember as he said measure everything with the Finish measurements in mind. Including hardwood floors if you'll have them. And if you have wood Treads on the stairs they' over 1" thick, so calculate that in there too.
Watching that hammer hitting those nails so perfectly n accurately, n the precision cuts w the saw, were like therapy to me...ahhhhhhh......carpenter yoga 🧘♀️
I build around 2-3 sets of stairs a week building decks. I use 2x6 or 2x8 for risers and use nothing but screws. I now use my 12" DeWalt miter saw to cut my stringers. It's a bit slower but I find my angles are consistent and cuts are cleaner. Plus, the overcut is less with the bigger blade. I watched many of these videos when I was younger. I wonder how many people learned from this?
@@david-ow3nv I usually have enough scraps and cut offs. If not, I use leftover 2x8 from the package, pieces with a big crown, etc, not suitable for joists. My contractors always order a couple extra in the package because of that fact. The 2x8 is great for alignment and strength while giving the step a solid feel, especially on composite decking.
I have always used 1x for risers. However with the quality and price of 1x pine etc, it makes more sense now to use 2x material for risers. So much stronger. I quit using 2x12 Doug Fir for stringers years ago. Microlam is far superior in all ways. Cost? Well not having a broken stringer tooth is worth it!
This is how I was taught and a month later I called him and said I did it just like you said, why are my stringers 1 1/4 short, the floor dropped an 1 1/4” from the straight down measurement ( the wrong way) to where my stairs actually landed only 8’ away, where he nailed the 2x4 to the floor at the bottom of the stairs is where you get your rise measurement always always always always Always , get your rise # from where they start to where they finish
Im 36, you men make my generation and I look like the turds we are. I wish there were more men like you around when my generation was growing up. I worked with my dad all through my childhood, so i was lucky. After an 8 yr stint in the military, i went to welding school and now im a millwright. I work with mostly stainless steel sheet metal and sanitary tubing, i love when the opportunity comes around to build a big ass stainless steel platform with several levels of stairs. Thabks for the video fellas. To hell with a nail gun...
Overcutting greatly reduces the stringer strength and makes a stress concentration point that leads to wood splitting. Best way is to drill a 1/2" diameter hole, then cut up to the hole. The rounded corner make the joint much stronger.
Carl Maes if it’s your own house that you are building, the extra time and effort and cost would be justified. But not when you are building someone else’s house.
i think i would cut to the line with a circular and finish with reciprocating saw, save time on having to round where the riser meets, unless im missing something
@@davidjacobs8558 you do realize this will have to rebuilt in a few years due to poor construction technique. this will cost much more in the long run.
Nope it doesn't make a difference it doesn't weaken anything. Once you have all the risers and Treads on and also a two-by-four now plus to the bottom of the stringers. The overcut makes no difference. Those stairs will stand as long as the building does
When I cut my stringers I drill a three quarter inch hole where the tread and riser meet, this means I don't have to overdue and the inside corner is rounded
I've never met a framer that would waste the time to do that. I have had some subs that would cut to the line and hit the rest with a framing saw though. You only need a certain amount of overlap to meet code, which this guy looks like he is doing.
@@JaredDHeaps for a few years now I have given links to my Crews watch Larry's videos. The man was a master with that skill saw not to mention his overall knowledge.
@@grandpa6535 Hi Larry, I think you may have missed the original comment above that I was replying to in regards of drilling out the corner on a stringer. I do agree with you in reference to Larry Haun, is a true master of his trade and I do enjoy and trust his videos and opinions. I probably should have pointed out more of the direction I was going in my original reply. Hope all is well.
I’m gonna assume the drywall guy and the trim guy cusses this guy every time. We always nail a 2x4 along the bottom of the stringer between it and the wall. That leaves room for the drywall and also the skirt board to slide down instead of having to try and match the stair cutout
Larry Haun certainly is one of the best carpenters in his time but I disagree with one thing he does here with the stairs; never overcut your rise and runs as it weakens the stringer. Should always, always use a handsaw (or jigsaw) to cut clean to the inside corner cut. Less chance the stringer will develop a stress split exactly where those overcuts would be.
Agree. Requires cutting away about 1"of material on the inside of the notch, weakening load carrying capacity. Nosing on the tread edge is code to replace this cutaway.
@Phelebas -Point taken. You are not wrong - Top is in compression and bottom in tension. But by removing the triangular shaped blocks from the 2x12, to nearly the half-way point, the 2x12 is effectively reduced to a 2x6 bcz the remaining triangles contribute almost nothing to the boards strength. So care should be taken not to reduce the boards width [or strength] any further. The issue I raised about sloppiness is generally an aesthetic one but shouldn’t be entirely ignored by a craftsman. -Cuts in joists, top and bottom, happen but are typically very frowned upon. Holes in joists as close to center width without disrupting the top or bottom (compression and tension moments, respectively) are always preferred. 🤜🤛
Wish Larry Haun didn't keep all of his secrets to himself ... it would have been AMAZING if he didn't keep ALL his incredible secrets and experience to himself before he went to the Heavens. His books are worth having. And these videos are priceless. Thanks for republishing his great works.
Yea. You can't over cut stringers. But this old timer still knew his stuff and was willing to teach it. I been a Carpenter a long time and in a lot of places. What's except able for some ain't for others. I'm willing to bet every one of those stair cases is just fine still today.
Times have changed, this video is old. He died in 2011 and worked, very quickly, in the califonia housing boom long before battery operated tools and nail guns. Overcutting was probably accepted then for speed, as was asbestos, lack of insulation and different wiring. Overcut or not you wouldnt keep up with him using a hammer!
Larry Haun is one of a few masters who willingly share their knowledge to the rest of the carpentry world. Thanks Larry.
When somebody knows, to share knowledge doesn't makes him poor, but makes the world rich.
There are thousands of people who have mastered their art and share knowledge.
When I was a carpenter apprentice in 1998 I took the house framing course and our course was based on Larry and joe haun’s video series. I never forgot those lessons taught. I’m 52 and ready to retire in a few years and any chance I get I try to teach an apprentice who is willing to learn.
That's why the youth is so lost.
Larry was the real thing. One of the most accomplished carpenters I've ever seen in my life time. A very kind professional that openly shared his knowledge & skill with the rest of us! Thank you Larry.
I miss this guy so much. 30+ years ago, as a young carpenter, I read Fine Homebuilding articles by Larry Haun. No CZcams or internet then. I literally used what I read the very next day. Larry you were a kind man and a great carpenter! Love hearing the ring of that Dalluge hammer he used! I still have my tape wrapped Dalluge 21 oz steel head hammer!
I thought it sounded like a stiletto TB2 lol. I have a stiletto TB2 and a custom Martinez M1 that actually just arrived 2 days ago 🤘.
@@1982Mattyb titanium hammers came along 25 years ago or so. Before that, the best balanced California Framer type hammer was a Dalluge. Steel. These modern titanium hammers are light. Let’s face it, most good framers rarely use a hammer. It makes sense to carry the lightest hammer you can. Even 30 years ago I went from 26 to 24 and finally a 21 oz steel Dalluge. Larry Haun came from a time (circa 1949) when nail guns were rare, expensive, heavy and pretty unreliable. The Mid 80s brought the Hitachi NR83 and it changed things. I learned to frame in a time when guys could really hand drive nails. The older guys were scary fast. Even at age 62, with my old Dalluge, I bet I could thrash most 25 year olds hand nailing today. Most modern framers never will become anywhere as proficient as a guy like Larry Haun. They don’t need to. With these cordless Framing guns, they are really fast. Today I’m a construction superintendent, I’ve got an old Dalluge, a few Plumb rigging axes, 2 NR83a1 Hitachi nailers and a new Milwaukee 18v cordless nailer. For the rare 16d nails I need to drive, which one do you think I grab? Haha. Good luck kid. Don’t smash your thumb!!!
@@mcbridecreek I'm 42🤘, we use a lot of paslode or phnumatic nailers nowadays. I do everything from the concrete up, basically concrete to turnkey minus the major subs. I was a roofer for over a decade started back in the late 90s. We hand banged everything so I totally understand the advice about the thumb, spinning nails at a fast pace can have you with strawberry jelly coming out the side of your finger. I learned framing from Larry Hans book and a red seal who was trained very well and educated in Larry's skillsets as well. I love framing, I'll do it until my body won't let me anymore. We just closed an 8000sq ft cabin, yesterday was cleanup an exit day. On to the next 🤘
@@1982Mattyb It’s proper for men over 60, to call anyone under 40 kid! Sorry I broke the rule. Sounds like you have the experience to understand what young carpenters never will! I was a framing contractor in the 90s. We had good tools but not like today. Paslode 1/2” crown staplers, so good and Hitachi framing nail guns. Best wishes
@@mcbridecreek np at all, I didn't mind I was just throwing out my age to help my story, that I started in the late 90s. I have the upmost respect for what the guys before me like yourself did and how you guys got things done , cheers 👍
My hero. The world lost a good man when Larry departed. A true legend.
Larry H. You may have graduated but the skill and knowledge you left us, you will always be remembered and appreciated whenever we built a STAIRCASE. Thank you.
I been building houses for 40 yrs and this man is the real deal old school very explanatory the best on the internet. I frame houses the same way. This guy knows his stuff
Most carpenters including myself frame pretty much the same way. What other way is there? Basic set of stairs any 3rd year apprentice should be able to build with ease. What is the old school way?
@@user-yr7jp7ip4t I build stairs with oak not cheap like that
I am a custom home builder. I worked with many different pro trades. But non of them could amaze me as Larry Haun do. He is phenomena and I love to sit back and watch his video for hours again and again. I am an old man with tons of DIY job in my resume. I think I know how things work. But when I watch Larry video I lose my confidence. LoL
This man does more work resting than alot of us sweating.
Love this dude, he was a contributor to Fine Home Building back in the 80’s, great production framing tips, you can tell he honed his carpentry skills before air tools became dominant, he always used that worm drive saw and efficiency and speed were main points in his articles
It's been about 15 years since I've done carpentry full time and this is an excellent video refresher to remember what I forgotten
Oh, wow. I bought a book Roof framing about 16 years ago. He was in all of the pictures of the section of gable, dutch and hip roofs. With the same hammer and same looking. Thank you Sir. The book helped me a lot and still does here and there.
That’s Larry Haun, he’s a legend any framer that’s been doing it for awhile knows who he is. This is from a video series that are based on his main book The Very Efficient Carpenter where he builds a house with one other guy using a hammer, and a circular saw, and gets it done quick
It is mesmerazing to watch how he hits the nails so strongly and gets straight in, not a single one bended in the hole video. Thanks, the best video so far I found for my DYI project. Bravo !
I love watching larry i am a carpenter of over 30 years and its a great trade to get into .
Larry's videos are awesome . The way Larry sinks those nails effortlessly is a lost art nowadays there's nail guns all over the jobsites 🪚🔨🗜️👷🏼♂️
Mr. Haun's video help me when I built my house and garage. Thank you Mr. Haun.
I bought Larry’s book years ago. He always added a lot of extra great tidbits. Best teacher hands down
What was his book?
@@croakingfrog3173 This is from a video series that are based on his main book " The Very Efficient Carpenter"
I love to watch these two guys build a house. They're skill level is insane.
Pure old-school master carpenter
They were brothers!
Nice video. I’m no carpenter but my dad was and he was old school no nail guns did lots of cuts with hand saws. I was happy to see you drive those nails in with just a few blows of the hammer it brought back memories of my dad. Keep up the good work.
One of the best carpenters who had great skill sets at building “Larry Haun”.. RIP
I didn't know he passed away! This dude is a man's man! Epic skills for sure!
I’ve watched and use this artist’s skills.
Very sorry to hear that. I was going to leave a comment to thank the man for his great video.
His great video remains. Best regards.
Men like this built the modern world. RIP
He truly was a master of his craft
My goodness Larry sure knew how to wield a hammer! When you see an artisan at work you think this is easy! It's sad that Larry is no longer with us but l'll be happy if l leave a similar legacy.
He taught me how to only hit the nail head twice! He's a great carpenter and a wonderful father ❤
i was saying the same thing like my god the accuracy this man had
@@NM-fy7ii youre his daughter?
That hammer control was spell binding, some nailed with 1 hit. Years of practice on show
agreed. I think he can put nails in by hand laster then I can with a pneumatic nailer lol!
The long wooden shaft gives the head that carpenters swing. Hold the end of the shaft is the key. The weight is in the head. Let the head do the work.
Yeah, I'll be pushing screws when I do my stairs. I'm a generalist kinda guy, with only six years experience, and I know my skill set!
@@bassistkenny q
He smacks a good nail like a wild man
Never realised Larry passed,deepest sympathy to his family,they must have been so proud of their wonderful skilled Man. Once again RIP man. 🙏
I didn’t know he passed either what a wonderful Carpenter. He’s probably helping Jesus build homes for us in heaven.
Always good to know how to swing a hammer. A lot of guys look defeated when nailing by hand becomes a possibility.
Even more impressive when you can switch hands and still nail.
I have been a carpenter for 33 years now and Larry is one of the best I have ever seen for making things simple and easy to understand. He is a legend in the framing industry. RIP
How long did you work with Larry? Surely after 33 years of being a carpenter you must find things simple & easy to understand?
I didn’t know him, he made those videos the same year I went into the carpenters union. I understand carpentry really well, I mostly build stairs and cut some roofs here and there. Some people just complicate things and he made everything easy to understand.
Binged his DVDs for 3 weeks every night about 6 yrs ago. The ting sound from his hammer strikes drove me mad but I gained enough confidence to complete the project I was on.
This guy is more efficient than most the carpenters I see today
Yep. Something as simple as gathering the 3 stringers together and putting the straps on back to back to back is so simple, but powerful.
It's a wonderful thing to see and hear a skilled craftsman at work.
What a pleasure to watch someone who knows what they're doing.
Hands down the ultimate pro. RIP Larry, people will be watching your video for generations to come and thanking you for passing down your knowledge.
Why RIP Larry? Is the man demonstrating already dead? God bless his soul if he is.
@@bingesteva7328 Yes, he died :(
Best stair build explanation I have seen. Sad to hear this guy passed away.
Ive seen dozens of videos for msking stairs this is the most concise easy to follow one ive seen. Beautiful work.
this is great! you can see the late 80s pickup in the back of the shot, no safety gear. No nail gun or screws. His saw/hammer technique is amazing, fast and efficient. I wish I could work with someone like that.
Thank You for your work. And yes you are a framer / form carpenter. Nothing wrong with that.
1. I never ever cut through the load bearing part of a stair jack / stringer or a rafter. Yes it takes more time to use a hand or saber saw but percentage wise that 1/2" of material on the compression side will place more lateral force on the tension side. Unless there is a wall under neath never cut into the Pattern or Jack.
2. On the Jack / Stringer adjacent to the wall I sometimes put a 1x4 if no skirt boards or even 2x4 between the wall and the jack so Drywall and the Skirt Board don't need to notch out and makes for a far superior finished product.
3. The run needs to be made when dealing with Oak or Ash Treads to work. As you know they typically get an Overhang and a trim piece on the riser below the tread nosing.
Thank You for teaching this. I am retired Industrial GC and built many millions of dollars of work. In many trades.. Ran a trim crew doing residential at 19. Stair as you know can eat up a lotta time. Especially natural wood. No Caulking allowed. Great Video.. I know you know all I have pointed out but the carpenters coming up don't. Thanks Again
Spot on with the hammer skills! RIP to a legend...Larry you are awesome!
I could watch this guy build all day long. Truly an inspiration
Thank you for commenting on the video
Larry & Joe are true craftsmen.
Spock has integrated beautifully as a highly skilled earthling carpenter.
Old school carpentry. What skills this man had...wow!
Well done! This was easy to watch, and provided substantial information and suggestions without unnecessary fluff - just good stuff. Thanks!
That top step still has me scratching my head, but sure it would all make sense if I was building stairs.
"Larry Haun" ay?
What a legend.
A nail in two strokes, and the hands of a thousand year old artisan.
Makes making a new flight of stairs look as simple as filling your car with oil.
Respect.
And will build 🙏
I moved into my home two years ago next month and early on knew I had to replace my stairs. While figuring out exactly how the hell to do that, I found this video. Then I just did not get to the project. But now I'm redoing my basement and am finally getting around to rebuilding the stairs, and I could not find this video to save my life. I'm so glad I stumbled on it again, no other video I've found has been even half as informative.
I know this guy passed away, but Haun is still a boss.
what a pro! wow
Rest In Peace. He was a great carpenter and a wonderful teacher
He was so good at explaining this stuff in a way that was easy to understand. Very practical guy. His book is excellent.
RIP Larry the human paslode ❤️
Never seen this geezer before but what a legend. Couldn’t believe his knack with measuring and the Skil Saw but then saw him using a hammer. Why can’t I find tradesman like this?
Dumbasses took trades out of the schools. I grew up with it but don't know if it's still there. Wood shop in middle school. Welding and machining in high school. My high school built a house every year. Know it's biting them back because they pushed college more than trades and now the peduleum is swinging back the other way.
Larry Huan was so badass that background music played everywhere he went
Masters make things look simple. Great video. I was mesmerized watching those penny nails go in like they were shot out of a gun.
Penny nails?
If anyone wants to see the full video series that Larry Haun made on framing houses without the annoying music or drawings just search "Larry Haun how to frame a house." They are great videos.
Absolutely!
Thank you!
This guy built a house with him joe a skilsaw and a hammer
i remember watching larrys videos in mid 90s when i was trade school for carpentry....still recall everytime i do a stringer....
Wow very comprehensive way of teaching newbies like me. I love your video. It taught me how to construct my stairs in my small house. Thanks a lot!
now I know what noise a hammer makes !!! TOP CLASS work, TOP CLASS MAN
Thank you very much, pros always make things look simple :) nicely done.
Incredible how experienced he is. Also how similar yet vastly different we work now. Legend.
Ohhhh the old tuba four. We miss you larry.
Many years ago, due to replacement costs, I re-used a factory made stair string that was bowed. I managed to hide the issue but new stairs made like this would have been so much easier. Probably considerably save on cost as well.
Who the hell thought it was a good idea to draw pictures all over the video? Especially when he’s doing math
Someone who thinks math is boring apparently.
Idiot also added crap music, etc. The pobably don't have permission/copyright permission.
This is a crap video
Music is too loud and can barely hear the great man speak.
No name recognition to the great teacher either!!!
Did Lowes steal Larry???
@@xephael3485 if he did have permission would it fucking matter?
He's swingin' away right towards buddies head @ 09:42 blissfully entrusting the quality of the heavy hammer.
Larry is a shining star !!! I'm a carpenter have been for a few decades I wish I would have worked with him.
Excellent video - of course I’m watching because I’m soon to build a set of stairs on a diy project and I have not cut a set of stringer in about a decade.
What a craftsman! Such a chill video too! Very educational, thanks!
Glad you posted someone else's video and shows a real master carpenter at his best.A shame the guy died and his footprint still lives.What a nice guy.
Good video of oldschool pros. Remember as he said measure everything with the Finish measurements in mind. Including hardwood floors if you'll have them. And if you have wood Treads on the stairs they' over 1" thick, so calculate that in there too.
Excellent craftsmanship, fast, and precise!
I love making stairs! He makes it looks so easy cutting! Stairs math is damn fun
Plumb impressive. All hand nailed. Pure craftsmanship. That Joe is quite a hand too!
Watching that hammer hitting those nails so perfectly n accurately, n the precision cuts w the saw, were like therapy to me...ahhhhhhh......carpenter yoga 🧘♀️
I build around 2-3 sets of stairs a week building decks. I use 2x6 or 2x8 for risers and use nothing but screws. I now use my 12" DeWalt miter saw to cut my stringers. It's a bit slower but I find my angles are consistent and cuts are cleaner. Plus, the overcut is less with the bigger blade. I watched many of these videos when I was younger. I wonder how many people learned from this?
@@david-ow3nv I usually have enough scraps and cut offs. If not, I use leftover 2x8 from the package, pieces with a big crown, etc, not suitable for joists. My contractors always order a couple extra in the package because of that fact. The 2x8 is great for alignment and strength while giving the step a solid feel, especially on composite decking.
I have always used 1x for risers. However with the quality and price of 1x pine etc, it makes more sense now to use 2x material for risers. So much stronger. I quit using 2x12 Doug Fir for stringers years ago. Microlam is far superior in all ways. Cost? Well not having a broken stringer tooth is worth it!
This is how I was taught and a month later I called him and said I did it just like you said, why are my stringers 1 1/4 short, the floor dropped an 1 1/4” from the straight down measurement ( the wrong way) to where my stairs actually landed only 8’ away, where he nailed the 2x4 to the floor at the bottom of the stairs is where you get your rise measurement always always always always
Always , get your rise # from where they start to where they finish
Bit late now ,that's why its called a stair well ( hole )
Im 36, you men make my generation and I look like the turds we are. I wish there were more men like you around when my generation was growing up. I worked with my dad all through my childhood, so i was lucky. After an 8 yr stint in the military, i went to welding school and now im a millwright. I work with mostly stainless steel sheet metal and sanitary tubing, i love when the opportunity comes around to build a big ass stainless steel platform with several levels of stairs. Thabks for the video fellas. To hell with a nail gun...
This dude is the building God, Love his teaching, :)
I learned something new today, thank you.
Me too, good skills and maths
This is the best explanation on stair building I've seen yet.
Very helpful great job explaining! Love it!
I don't know how that guy can concentrate with that music blaring at the job site.
haha! I thought that, weird selection of music!!
Stolen video and this avoids the copyright automation of CZcams.
Overcutting greatly reduces the stringer strength and makes a stress concentration point that leads to wood splitting. Best way is to drill a 1/2" diameter hole, then cut up to the hole. The rounded corner make the joint much stronger.
Carl Maes if it’s your own house that you are building, the extra time and effort and cost would be justified. But not when you are building someone else’s house.
i think i would cut to the line with a circular and finish with reciprocating saw, save time on having to round where the riser meets, unless im missing something
@@davidjacobs8558 you do realize this will have to rebuilt in a few years due to poor construction technique. this will cost much more in the long run.
Why not just finish the cut with a hand saw, or jig saw?
@@davidjacobs8558 these stairs wouldn't pass inspection in my city over cutting and no stiffener
My God these guys are amazing..and fast , I love the old guys carpenters..no science no weird machines ..just good old fashioned hard hand work..
I love watching Larry work. If I could only hammer half as good as he!
"is t on the line?" "NO IT WILL BE!" LOL! GOOD ANSWER
Sir, I have watched your videos and have a great deal of respect for your skills. Doesn't overcutting intersection lines, weaken the stringer?
Larry died in 2011, but yes, over cutting does weaken stringers.
Nope it doesn't make a difference it doesn't weaken anything. Once you have all the risers and Treads on and also a two-by-four now plus to the bottom of the stringers. The overcut makes no difference. Those stairs will stand as long as the building does
I've been out of carpentry for 10 years is beautiful to see somebody knows their trade and does it perfectly
By far this is one of the best videos i have ever watch
I see the rise and threads cuts across each other. Can that weaken the structure of the stringer?
Yes! Especially if my big Ex comes over. The stairs won't hold her.
When I cut my stringers I drill a three quarter inch hole where the tread and riser meet, this means I don't have to overdue and the inside corner is rounded
I've never met a framer that would waste the time to do that. I have had some subs that would cut to the line and hit the rest with a framing saw though. You only need a certain amount of overlap to meet code, which this guy looks like he is doing.
@@JaredDHeaps - LOL - "...which this guy..." - If you do not know "this guy" is Larry Haun, you need to watch his videos and/or read his books.
@@valkyriefrost5301 I'll have to take a look. Thanks!
@@JaredDHeaps for a few years now I have given links to my Crews watch Larry's videos. The man was a master with that skill saw not to mention his overall knowledge.
@@grandpa6535 Hi Larry, I think you may have missed the original comment above that I was replying to in regards of drilling out the corner on a stringer. I do agree with you in reference to Larry Haun, is a true master of his trade and I do enjoy and trust his videos and opinions. I probably should have pointed out more of the direction I was going in my original reply. Hope all is well.
Totally awesome to watch n good workmen ship
Great work sir fantastico
Always get back to watching this excellent video by a true trade person nail guns are for snowflakes and let's nor forget Joe.
Nail guns are extremely efficient? It takes 4 seconds to hammer a nail but 1 second to shoot a nail
We never cut past the lines. It makes the stringer weak
Oh my gosh finally, I've been looking for this comment. I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Man does this Carpenter have skill. He is very impressive to watch, plus this video has helped me
Pure craftsman, so nice to watch.
I’m gonna assume the drywall guy and the trim guy cusses this guy every time. We always nail a 2x4 along the bottom of the stringer between it and the wall. That leaves room for the drywall and also the skirt board to slide down instead of having to try and match the stair cutout
Thats a good point.
Larry Haun certainly is one of the best carpenters in his time but I disagree with one thing he does here with the stairs; never overcut your rise and runs as it weakens the stringer. Should always, always use a handsaw (or jigsaw) to cut clean to the inside corner cut. Less chance the stringer will develop a stress split exactly where those overcuts would be.
Agree. Requires cutting away about 1"of material on the inside of the notch, weakening load carrying capacity. Nosing on the tread edge is code to replace this cutaway.
With that 1 inch back cut do you have to cut that angle into your treads and risers for a flush fit?
I love these videos, the added smooth jazz takes it to the climax of carpentry 😂😂.
When you cut in too far you weaken that stringer. Don't like the music ! RIP !
It really does.
Exactly, it would not take more than 5 minutes to cut short of line and finish by hand or With a sawzall
Dude, that was nothing. It’s a 2x10 also, he’s a master.
@@LukeT- The 2X10 or Larry? lol
Yes it does. You have a big woman, like my EX.
It Matters!
He want to work fast, forgive him. If you want strong stringer... hire an obedient guy
I can't believe they do everything by hammer
They're old school builders. They're built that way!
Yip, it was once a mans job. The hammer is more forgiving when you do an oops.
Pure gold ty for sharing ✌️🐾🐯🕊️🎼🌈🌎
Dammm is like menonita carpeted!! I’m glad to watch how’s nailing the wood
THIS is a stair master.
over cut weekins the stringer use jigsaw or saws all never over cut
Agreed. That was sloppy.
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@Phelebas -Point taken. You are not wrong - Top is in compression and bottom in tension. But by removing the triangular shaped blocks from the 2x12, to nearly the half-way point, the 2x12 is effectively reduced to a 2x6 bcz the remaining triangles contribute almost nothing to the boards strength. So care should be taken not to reduce the boards width [or strength] any further. The issue I raised about sloppiness is generally an aesthetic one but shouldn’t be entirely ignored by a craftsman.
-Cuts in joists, top and bottom, happen but are typically very frowned upon. Holes in joists as close to center width without disrupting the top or bottom (compression and tension moments, respectively) are always preferred.
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You need an English writing and grammar class, to learn the basics of sentence structure!
Damn, he makes it look easy. I once bought pre cut stair boards from Home Depot and it was still a pain.
Wish Larry Haun didn't keep all of his secrets to himself ... it would have been AMAZING if he didn't keep ALL his incredible secrets and experience to himself before he went to the Heavens. His books are worth having. And these videos are priceless. Thanks for republishing his great works.
If I would have overcut the stringers like you're showing on this film I would have been fired
Yea. You can't over cut stringers. But this old timer still knew his stuff and was willing to teach it. I been a Carpenter a long time and in a lot of places. What's except able for some ain't for others. I'm willing to bet every one of those stair cases is just fine still today.
Times have changed, this video is old. He died in 2011 and worked, very quickly, in the califonia housing boom long before battery operated tools and nail guns. Overcutting was probably accepted then for speed, as was asbestos, lack of insulation and different wiring.
Overcut or not you wouldnt keep up with him using a hammer!