The 10 biggest shocks in the F1 driver market

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  • What’s the biggest shock you can think of in the F1 driver market?
    There are so many to choose from, and we’ve picked what we believe are the 10 biggest.
    We know there’ll be some big ones missing that you think should have been included, so make sure you let us know in the comments which moments have shocked you the most over the years.
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  • @corbinselanne7990
    @corbinselanne7990 Před 2 lety +958

    Rosberg's shock retirement after winning the 2016 title causing Merc to buy out Valtteri Bottas' Williams deal caused Williams to re-sign Felipe Massa for one more season to partner Canadian rookie Lance Stroll, who had originally been signed by Williams to replace Massa (the driver who originally intended to retire after 2016)

    • @EverybodySMD
      @EverybodySMD Před 2 lety +60

      Awkward for Massa… lol

    • @UncleBoogieRF
      @UncleBoogieRF Před 2 lety +28

      I got dizzy just reading that. LOL!

    • @montruo000000007
      @montruo000000007 Před 2 lety +34

      So what you’re saying is… Rosberg is responsible for Aston Martin being on the grid today?

    • @tuffmanchannel
      @tuffmanchannel Před 2 lety +28

      @@montruo000000007 Not necessarily. Lance was gonna be in Williams in 2017 and 2018 whether Bottas stayed in the team or not, and Lawrence was gonna buy Force India in either case, so I don't see there being a change.

    • @corbinselanne7990
      @corbinselanne7990 Před 2 lety +6

      @@montruo000000007 No. As said earlier, Williams had committed to running Stroll in 2017 when Massa retired, only to sign him on for an extra year when Rosberg retired as champion and Merc bought out their deal with Bottas to replace Nico

  • @blist8329
    @blist8329 Před 2 lety +217

    What I've learned from this video is Frank Williams is a great Talent spotter but not the best businessman

    • @lukekelly5115
      @lukekelly5115 Před 2 lety +29

      Would be why his company went bankrupt despite being so dominant for so long lol

    • @tuffmanchannel
      @tuffmanchannel Před 2 lety +13

      @@lukekelly5115 A series of bad decision after bad decision. It's a shame, really.

    • @juanin200
      @juanin200 Před 2 lety +9

      Yup, he got everyone he needed to get in order to build one of the most formidable teams in F1, then slowly lost all of them

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks Před 2 lety +11

      Same with Lotus, people can laugh at Ferrari all they want for their shocking performances over the years but Ferrari understands business and that's why, they're the biggest team in F1 today.

    • @tearinthebradsshaw
      @tearinthebradsshaw Před 2 lety

      @@lukekelly5115 his fleabag daughter ruined Williams

  • @titan_fx
    @titan_fx Před 2 lety +474

    Lewis to Merc back then shocked me. Like "WTF Lewis, why are you moving to midfield team?". Oh boy I was wrong.

    • @princeendymion9044
      @princeendymion9044 Před 2 lety +107

      I remember Clarkson interview him and asking "Isn't that like moving from Manchester United to West Ham?". How the tables have turned

    • @MrBboyflexibi
      @MrBboyflexibi Před 2 lety +21

      Not really Mercedes in 2012 was on the up 🔝 while Mclaren was clearly struggling to compete with Red Bull , hence trying something different wasn’t a bad decision

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 2 lety +14

      Lewis leaving McLaren - or signing for Mercedes if you prefer - was quite the shock at the time. Not sure how they missed this one.

    • @corbinselanne7990
      @corbinselanne7990 Před 2 lety +20

      @@MrBboyflexibi And then the engine regulation change for 2014 saw Merc immediately catch fire; despite a couple of setbacks for Lewis specifically (namely Turn 4 at Barcelona 2016, *THAT* engine failure in Malaysia, and Michael Masi botching the safety car rules in the 2021 finale) the only real trouble he's had with Merc in ten years with the team has been with the current aero regs' porpoising effect

    • @mrterp04
      @mrterp04 Před 2 lety +3

      Good idea for a video: Smartest Driver Moves

  • @drnerd
    @drnerd Před 2 lety +539

    I'd have put Danny Ric's move higher up the list, that one was a shocker that caused waves within Red Bull & Torro Rosso for years!

    • @jonathankrsul3664
      @jonathankrsul3664 Před 2 lety +17

      I wouldn't have. It was pretty apparent that he wanted away from that organization, and that he was only the first of what we now know of the trouble Red Bull had with whoever drove the car opposite of Max

    • @superduperbooper3987
      @superduperbooper3987 Před 2 lety +39

      He revealed to the world, the flaws in Red Bull’s system

    • @tt-nm4yj
      @tt-nm4yj Před 2 lety +1

      They need a familiar name in the first of the video to keep people watching

    • @adrianhjordan1981
      @adrianhjordan1981 Před 2 lety +4

      Really?? That wasn't at all shocking to me

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 2 lety +1

      @@superduperbooper3987 yes. Also big flaws for Aston Martin.

  • @Euclides287
    @Euclides287 Před 2 lety +656

    For everyone who started watching F1 recently let me help you fully grasp the insanity around Lewis' decision to leave McLaren for Mercedes in 2012 - Imagine *Verstappen* decided to quit Red Bull at the end of this year for *Alpine.* That's how crazy and baffling a decision it was.

    • @frozenuruguayball6436
      @frozenuruguayball6436 Před 2 lety +9

      imo it would be for the better if max went to alpine

    • @namename3130
      @namename3130 Před 2 lety +8

      @@frozenuruguayball6436 ditto, so long as the story doesnt follow as it did for hamilton

    • @patrickhodgen9933
      @patrickhodgen9933 Před 2 lety +85

      That’s weirdly accurate. Alonso is the Schumacher in this situation - a returning champion that saw things not quite work out, while Ocon is the promising but “only one race win under his belt” Rosberg Type.

    • @d.e.b.b5788
      @d.e.b.b5788 Před 2 lety +30

      Uh, no. Lewis hadn't won a WDC in 4 years when he jumped to Mercedes, and Vettel was on a 4 year roll with red bull, driving Lewis nuts over not having a competitive car. So that wasn't exactly a surprise.

    • @khda891
      @khda891 Před 2 lety +5

      @@patrickhodgen9933 plus VER and Ocon are old rivals I believe

  • @that.guy11
    @that.guy11 Před 2 lety +158

    Ferrari choosing Badoer to fill in for Massa in '09 was pretty shocking...purely because what the hell were Ferrari thinking

    • @Xiphactinus
      @Xiphactinus Před 2 lety +5

      Seem to remember them considering Rossi for the seat, but I can't confirm it.

    • @TwentyNinerR
      @TwentyNinerR Před 2 lety +34

      @@Xiphactinus IIRC, it was Schumi who recommended The Doctor for a seat at the Prancing Horse due to his sheer talent, but politics happened.

    • @pz189
      @pz189 Před 2 lety +21

      @@TwentyNinerR Schumi had a bad neck at the time. Luca was a long term test driver and had "earned" it but I don't think anyone thought he'd be quite so slow

    • @antasena6043
      @antasena6043 Před 2 lety +9

      @@Xiphactinus i think Rossi to Ferrari is about in 2006-2007 so Ferarri can get a dream team with the 2 bigest name of the Motorsport at that time in their team

    • @corbinselanne7990
      @corbinselanne7990 Před 2 lety +2

      @Xiphactinus @Antasena By Rossi, do you mean Valentino? If he'd made it over in, say, 2014, he'd have been able to use his MotoGP number 46 as his F1 number

  • @miguelrosas6893
    @miguelrosas6893 Před 2 lety +128

    i think Checo’s should be up there too. he went from saving a F1 team and bringing them 4th on CC, they quit on him after what it was his best season, and redbull decided to trust on his experience instead of bringing back any of the other two young prodigies

    • @barrywarry
      @barrywarry Před 2 lety +18

      and he had a key role in the max his win. as max said Checo is a legend

    • @ryandraper6894
      @ryandraper6894 Před 2 lety +2

      What? This is an all time list. Can’t be making all time list when you’re not even top 5 this season.

    • @JnManuelAG
      @JnManuelAG Před 2 lety

      @@ryandraper6894 Checo is a top 5 driver, what r u talking about?

    • @barrywarry
      @barrywarry Před 2 lety +3

      @@ryandraper6894 it says: 10 biggest shocks in the f1 driver market... not: top 10 best drivers of all time? what u smoking?

    • @SiVlog1989
      @SiVlog1989 Před 2 lety +9

      If Red Bull hadn't swallowed its pride, by taking on Perez, someone who previously had no connection to the Red Bull brand, instead leaving him without a drive, then it would be on the list. It would have been an absolute travesty if he had been without a drive in 2021 after the best season of his career as well as finally claiming his first race win in 2020 (in doing so, shattering Mark Webber's record for most attempts before taking a win).
      The mistake that Red Bull has made in the past was promoting young drivers up the grid far too early, leaving them struggling (Kvyat and Galsy were prime examples and they ended up getting kicked to the kerb by being demoted back to the "junior team," at the time called Toro Rosso). By recruiting Perez, Red Bull finally have someone in the second car who, while not known for his out and out pace (indeed, Jeddah 2022 was his first pole position and I feel that with better timing of the Safety Car, he could have won that race), has the race craft to get the car home relatively close in the races and most importantly, he's there if anything goes wrong for Verstappen

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 Před rokem +5

    I think now we can add at least two more to the list of honourable mentions:
    Alpine promotes Oscar Piastri to a race seat for 2023, only to be snubbed by Piastri himself and Fernando Alonso suddenly rejects Alpine to replace the retiring Sebastian Vettel at Aston Martin

  • @stephengoudie3025
    @stephengoudie3025 Před 2 lety +33

    DR’s move from RBR to Renault should’ve been higher in my personal opinion, as it is, I think, part of the reason the RB driver academy has been an utter shambles over the last few years

  • @Drrolfski
    @Drrolfski Před 2 lety +46

    Torro Rosso's announcement to have a 17 years-old rookie in their 2015 F1 seat was quite a shocker, as was the promotion of that very same rookie mid-season only the year after that to the Red Bull team.

  • @remy090
    @remy090 Před 2 lety +24

    How is Hamilton to Mercedes not on here? People were so shocked by that, because at the time Mercedes were just a midfield team, who many said Hamilton was only going to for the money.

  • @coronasdelaurel
    @coronasdelaurel Před 2 lety +74

    Some moves that were also shocking in my opinion that didn't make it into this video:
    - Emerson Fittipaldi leaves McLaren to join his brother's team.
    - Niki Lauda walks out on Ferrari after winning the title with two races to go in the season to join Brabham. Also his first retirement walking out on Brabham with two races to go as well.
    - Carlos Reutemann walks out on Williams just two races into the 1982 season.
    - Alan Jones returns to F1 after almost 4 years to join the newly created Haas Lola team.
    - Juan Pablo Montoya is sacked by McLaren.
    - A 41-year-old Michael Schumacher returns to F1 with the returning Mercedes team.

    • @periklaskyriakidis6064
      @periklaskyriakidis6064 Před 2 lety +6

      Agree about all of these. Also Alexander Wurz at Williams in 2007 must have been shocking, I mean that dude last raced a full season in 2000 and he was test driver for McLaren. Kinda same with Brendon Hartley, he was reserve driver for RB in 2009-2011 or 2010 I think and he entered F1 after 8 years

    • @DimitriMoreira
      @DimitriMoreira Před 2 lety +2

      Schumacher was NOT 41 when he returned with Mercedes. Schumacher was announced by Mercedes on December 2009. He was 40 years old, not 41. Also, Mercedes had backed up most of his karting days and got him a seat at Jordan for 1991. Schumacher was always closely tied to Mercedes.
      EDIT: fix a typo

    • @coronasdelaurel
      @coronasdelaurel Před 2 lety +4

      @@DimitriMoreira Michael Schumacher was born January 3rd 1969, so even if the deal was announced when he was still 40, by the time the 2010 season started he was 41.

    • @DimitriMoreira
      @DimitriMoreira Před 2 lety

      @@coronasdelaurel He was 40, yes. Not 41. I did my math wrong but the point is still correct. You didn't say anything about "season start" you said "returns to F1 with the returning Mercedes team". He returned to F1 in December 2009 when he was officially announced by the team. As you correctly put it, he was 40. But again, not 41.

    • @purwantiallan5089
      @purwantiallan5089 Před 2 lety

      @@coronasdelaurel 2023: Could be Ayumu Uehara replacing Lewis Hamilton at Mercedes or replacing Vettel at Aston Martin.

  • @matt_v_photo
    @matt_v_photo Před rokem +7

    Anyone here after Piastri saying no to Alpine?

  • @SiVlog1989
    @SiVlog1989 Před 2 lety +20

    Alonso to McLaren the first time was the second time in 3 years that McLaren signed up a driver a long way ahead of time. Midway through 2003, they signed Juan Pablo Montoya to join the team in 2005. Much like with Alonso, Montoya's time at the Woking team ended in acrimonious circumstances (Alonso felt like he was driving for a team that was favouring Hamilton, returning to the team he had left after 2006, Renault, and Montoya initially struggled with the McLaren car concept and as it became less competitive in 2006, he opted to join NASCAR for 2007, but Ron Dennis terminated his contract after he found out)

  • @michaelsanderson9562
    @michaelsanderson9562 Před 2 lety +16

    The biggest (and certainly most influential) transfer in recent years has to have been Hamilton to Mercedes, but the one that shocked me the most was Rosberg

  • @lukebartlett704
    @lukebartlett704 Před 2 lety +17

    How is Hamilton to Mercedes not on here?? I thought it was gonna be no 1, having not considered Rosberg admittedly

  • @wayne1da121
    @wayne1da121 Před 2 lety +15

    Damon Hill to Arrows, if he puuled of that victory in Hungary it would have been one of the greates victories in F1 history.

    • @nicksurface3513
      @nicksurface3513 Před 2 lety +4

      More mystifying than leaving Williams was why he chose Arrows of all teams.

    • @wayne1da121
      @wayne1da121 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nicksurface3513 It was one of the only drives left.

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Před 2 lety

      @@nicksurface3513 Arrows 1997 still as underrated as Williams 2021.

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 Před 2 lety +2

      @@nicksurface3513 Apparently Hill assumed he could get a drive for McLaren, but Dennis wasn't really interested in him so he made him such a poor offer (Dennis was literally just entertaining his sponsors who wanted hill) that Hill refused (thus Dennis could tell the sponsors "Look I tried"). Arrows were the only team to offer the money Hill wanted.

  • @sandalphoncpu
    @sandalphoncpu Před 2 lety +18

    F1 Drivers: I wanna join Ferrari
    Irvine: I was robbed to Ferrari

    • @galetinm
      @galetinm Před 2 lety +1

      Not what happened. Eddie Irvine didn't say that, Eddie Jordan did, it's a bit misleading if you don't read what says on the screen. Eddie Jordan first convinced Michael Schumacher that Irvine would be a good team mate, then when Michael made the suggestion to Jean Todt, Jean Todt said he wouldn't pay the buyout clause of $4-6mil. Eddie Jordan then played hardball saying that it would cost him too mich to lose Irvine. So Ferrari did eventually pay $5mil. It was Eddie Jordan who played them, so he said that it was a daylight robbery, meaning that he was the one who robbed Ferrari i.e. the one wearing the mask.

  • @antasena6043
    @antasena6043 Před 2 lety +22

    I wonder why Lewis's move from McLaren to Mercedez didn't come to the list, are those doesn't shocking enough or doesn't big enough to come to the list

    • @thebestevertherewas
      @thebestevertherewas Před 2 lety +1

      @@WinWall3227 They were a distant 5th in the constructors, in 2012.
      So no, that would be like leaving RB and joining Alpine.

  • @alicewilson1913
    @alicewilson1913 Před 2 lety +26

    Biggest one for me was skipping the 2020 season entirely and then seeing Alonso and Kimi on the grid at the first race of 2021

    • @elliottdodson4912
      @elliottdodson4912 Před 2 lety +8

      Now imagine you stop watching after 2007 and you see alonso and kimi STILL racing 😂

    • @isthatrubble
      @isthatrubble Před 2 lety +1

      @@elliottdodson4912 I stopped watching after 2013 and then started again halfway through last year....... that was probably the thing that shocked me the most!

    • @bennynagon9322
      @bennynagon9322 Před rokem

      @@isthatrubble lol me too 🤣

  • @AJCrowley0153
    @AJCrowley0153 Před 2 lety +11

    I found MSC's retirement quite shocking. So much so that it shocked me out of watching F1 until his return shocked me back into it.

    • @jayb2705
      @jayb2705 Před 2 lety +1

      MSC coming back to F1 in 2010 should be on the list, it was a big shock.

  • @Cynon
    @Cynon Před 2 lety +7

    Hamilton to Mercedes, Montoya to NASCAR, and Kubica's rally injury should have been factored in, I think

  • @visionnr2004
    @visionnr2004 Před 2 lety +3

    Probably Schumacher returning in 2010 was the biggest surprise for me after his 2006 retirement

  • @BlackFantasy470
    @BlackFantasy470 Před 2 lety +4

    Wasn't there even a rumour that one of the 1996 Ferrari cockpits would be filled with Alain Prost?!
    The biggest "shock" for me was when Lotus signed Kimi.

  • @whassupg89
    @whassupg89 Před 2 lety +8

    This could easily be a list of 25+

  • @blakechambers732
    @blakechambers732 Před 2 lety +17

    Next one could be top 10 underdog performances in f1?

    • @wolfgangvan-uber6515
      @wolfgangvan-uber6515 Před 2 lety +3

      Senna - Monaco 1984
      Panis - Monaco 1996
      Hill - Hungary 1997
      Webber - Australia 2002
      Sato - Canada 2007
      Vettel - Italy 2008
      Fisichella - Belgium 2009
      Maldonado - Spain 2012
      Gasly - Italy 2020
      Ocon - Hungary 2021
      There you have it

  • @Sweaty__Sheep
    @Sweaty__Sheep Před 2 lety +1

    I love learning about the insider talk that doesn't see the light of day at the time. The behind the scenes info is so exciting to hear. Thanks

  • @danielalonso6223
    @danielalonso6223 Před 2 lety +2

    No one was shocked by Vettel and Ferrari splitting. I’m more surprised it didn’t happen sooner.
    Other than that, solid list. Maybe Ferrari sacking Rene Arnoux after the first race in 1985 could be up there as it’s never really been explained, or Villeneuve and Fittipaldi both walking away from title winning cars for new teams.

  • @TheWookiee1977
    @TheWookiee1977 Před 2 lety +4

    I'm shocked that Lewis Hamilton's move from McLaren to Mercedes-AMG Petronas wasn't one of the top 2, let alone that it was completely left out.

    • @Edittname
      @Edittname Před rokem +2

      Clarkson even said 'Is that not a bit like moving from Manchester United to West Ham?' in his interview with Lewis, everyone was shocked back then..

  • @alvarsdzenis4739
    @alvarsdzenis4739 Před 2 lety +3

    The real deal re Rossberg according to family insiders was Merc wanted him to let hamilton win next year, (team orders). Rossberg decided that that stifles his chances of multiple, consecutive championships and quit knowing Merc had the best cars, and driving for a team that can't win was pointless. So we have an undefeated champion.

    • @soberhans4209
      @soberhans4209 Před 2 lety

      What evidence is there of this? Makes no sense they would want Hamilton to win the *following* season without seeing how they are each performing. If they wanted Hamilton to win that badly they would not have let them race the prior season

  • @alifted8271
    @alifted8271 Před 2 lety +3

    I still remember back in 2013 when Ham decided to move to Merc and most of the F1 community bashin him some say hes in it for the money.

  • @1_5RCBiker
    @1_5RCBiker Před 2 lety +3

    Emmo leaving McClaren to join Copersucar in '76. No one saw that coming, not even McClaren or Philip Morris.

  • @vasekkosar3931
    @vasekkosar3931 Před 2 lety +8

    I'm surprised Hamilton's move to Mercedes or Jean Alesi's move to Ferrari aren't there.

  • @TheMrFishnDucks
    @TheMrFishnDucks Před 2 lety +1

    The Rosberg was the biggest shock to me also. Nice video. Keep up the good work.

  • @motorsportsenthusiast23
    @motorsportsenthusiast23 Před rokem +3

    I think Lewis’s move to Mercedes was the biggest shocker. He truly must’ve seen the future.

  • @JackIsRacing
    @JackIsRacing Před 2 lety +1

    I reckon Emerson Fittipaldi to Copasucar, and then sticking with them through to the end of his career is a bit of a shock personally

  • @arlindosilva2557
    @arlindosilva2557 Před 2 lety +1

    Emerson Fittipaldi leaving McLaren to join his brother Wilson in Copersucar, Niki Lauda going into retirement right after renewing his contract with Brabham or Alain Prost being sacked by Reanult days after losing the World Championship in 1983 were bigger shocking news than all of these.

  • @DiggyT
    @DiggyT Před 2 lety +2

    Great video, really a breath of fresh air to not talk about current F1 drama

  • @rayEvo9mr
    @rayEvo9mr Před 2 lety +3

    Is no one going to mention CHECO PEREZ to REDBULL???
    No one expected Perez to be picked because he wasn’t a Redbull up and coming driver

    • @9adriano21
      @9adriano21 Před 2 lety

      Also Checo leaving RP/AM was a shock, considering he saved that team

  • @namefinder
    @namefinder Před 2 lety +2

    Williams deciding to drop Hill was the biggest shock for me.

  • @aifrench14
    @aifrench14 Před 2 lety +1

    Glad Irvine to Ferrari made the list as that was pretty crazy. Interestingly Alonso's Renault departure kind of echoed Schumi's departure from the Enstone Team in 1995, still Benetton back then, as there was rumours as early as Monaco that he was off to Ferrari despite their dominance.

  • @darthconquerus
    @darthconquerus Před 2 lety +2

    Difficult to argue with Ricciardo at the time on his doubts about the Honda engine given what happened at McLaren

  • @ashooaway
    @ashooaway Před 2 lety

    The biggest shock is that you are making a video on this topic but I love it!!

  • @ayakid921
    @ayakid921 Před 2 lety +1

    Rosberg's announcement was shocking for the reason that at such a peak age and just winning there was really no outside reason to stop there. it was so bizarre.

  • @BimaAgungSaputra-gt4px
    @BimaAgungSaputra-gt4px Před 2 lety +3

    Can't believe no one mention max and kvyat in-season switch

  • @patrickracer43
    @patrickracer43 Před rokem +1

    Could add Juan Pablo Montoya leaving McLaren to rejoin Chip Ganassi Racing but as a driver for Ganassi's NASCAR program (with some ARCA starts to allow NASCAR to see how well he could handle himself on the superspeedways like Daytona and Talladega)

    • @johncitizen306
      @johncitizen306 Před 19 dny

      Nobody cares about some bean boy going to fatcar

  • @Jorge.Painkiller
    @Jorge.Painkiller Před 2 lety +2

    Sauber replacing Kobayashi for Gutierrez has to be one of the worst decisions they ever made

  • @shotarokaneda5922
    @shotarokaneda5922 Před 2 lety +16

    Imagine if Nico had negotiated a return in 2019 with a team like Red Bull...
    We could've had Nico VS Max VS Lewis in 2021. WHY, NICO, WHY???

    • @juanin200
      @juanin200 Před 2 lety

      Red Bull had spent enough money, time and resources into Verstappen to let another driver take their first Championship since 2013. That's why Max couldn't get a good team-mate since Dani Ric, they were always going to be treated as Verstappen's rear-gunner.

    • @damarfadlan9251
      @damarfadlan9251 Před 2 lety

      @@juanin200 Verstappen should've come down as a front gunner.

  • @ajegelin
    @ajegelin Před 2 lety +1

    I was more than mental stress of being a number to Driver by design that caused Nico to leave rather than the pressure of racing Lewis. But then again this is the race.

  • @omar-oi6zg
    @omar-oi6zg Před 2 lety +3

    Danny Ric's move from Red Bull still puzzles me.

    • @insertgenericusernamehere2402
      @insertgenericusernamehere2402 Před 2 lety

      That was Danny's choice not red bulls. He knew he'd be a number 2 to max and left.

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 Před 2 lety +3

      He anticipated a Vettel/Webber 2.0 scenario.

    • @MrSkeleton131
      @MrSkeleton131 Před 2 lety +2

      @@soundscape26 Exactly, it absolutely would've turned into that

    • @no1washerezz
      @no1washerezz Před 2 lety +2

      baku 2018... red bull failed to side with ricciardo when it was evidently max's fault.

  • @kylehansen3333
    @kylehansen3333 Před 2 lety

    Could we get some Indy car CZcams content on the race? Love the Indy car podcast and would like to see some indycar CZcams coverage.

  • @grimm6jack
    @grimm6jack Před 2 lety +2

    Rosberg made what Vettel should've done as well.
    Rosberg knew that he had to leave aside his family and commit almost 100% of himself to F1 if he ever wanted to be a World Champion. And he's right... If you are a F1 champion, and want to go for more, that's what you have to sacrifice.
    Vettel before 2014, had no kids and had a commitment to F1 like no other driver post-Schumacher. And what did that result? Into him being the sensational driver he was between 2008 and 2013.
    After the end of 2013, he became a father for the first time, had to have less commitment to F1 and that resulted in his performances not being the same anymore. He still showed World Champion performances in his first 3 years at Ferrari, but after having a 2nd kid, and then a 3rd one in 2019, we all saw how he went down, and he even now also has his mind focused on world problems rather than F1.
    So yeah, if anything, we actually have to respect what Rosberg did.
    Hamilton as we all know has no kids, he has a few businesses outside of F1 but he has people to handler that for him. He has an easy going life, and that's why he can commit to F1, he himself says F1 is his life, which is why Hamilton consistently across his career aside from or two other years, has delivered World Champion worthy performances.
    But again, with Hamilton you can tell that he also is focusing on other things since 2020... And it's been noticeable his drop in performance since 2018. It may have not looked like it because in 2019 and 2020 he had a rocketship under him and a teammate that's a midfield driver at best. But 2021 showed... His car was still the best but this time not by much, and even despite the bad luck his opposition had in several DNFs, he still lost the championship. I have no doubt in my mind that if in 2021 Hamilton had the same commitment he had the years prior to 2018, he would've been champion for damn sure even before the last race in Abu Dhabi.
    Max and Leclerc, are young and also like all these world champions before them, when young, have little else to commit to other than F1. Wait until they start having other responsabilities and things to focus on and you will also notice them drop in performance.

    • @peppamintyy
      @peppamintyy Před 2 lety

      Reminds me of Damon Hill's interview by Top Gear, in which he said by a certain age, or after you have a family, there's a voice in the back of your head that says "You know, if you don't push too hard, you can live longer" or something similar.

  • @9adriano21
    @9adriano21 Před 2 lety +1

    Racing Point/AM dropping Pérez… considering he literally saved that team from disappearing and was performing really good that year

  • @mgers75
    @mgers75 Před 2 lety

    Montoya basically quiting Williams mid race and signing with McLaren the next day should definitely be somewhere in this t10

  • @cosmostrek512
    @cosmostrek512 Před 2 lety +1

    the mansell move is number 1. you could hear the williams guy say everything is agrees live on tv. this is number 1. because it started the slow decline of williams into the last place team they have begun. williams has always been cheap skates and treated their driver terribly i do not know why the ex drivers want anything to do with them.

  • @grooviegroovz
    @grooviegroovz Před 2 lety

    Super interesting!

  • @Welshguy78
    @Welshguy78 Před 2 lety +6

    Williams sacking Hill and the fallout from that action, has to rank as the biggest mistake in the history of F1. The sheer arrogance and spiteful attitude of Frank and Patrick during that period destroyed a once great team. I loved Williams in that period, but they got what they deserved.

    • @jiboo6850
      @jiboo6850 Před 2 lety +2

      that's why i was pissed off when people were praising him when he died. gutted i was. this dude made his downfall by himself with Patrick. even though patrick was a bit more wise.

    • @titchlilly1294
      @titchlilly1294 Před 2 lety

      Frank was not a great businessman at all stubborn etc. His behaviour towards Hill was awful considering Hill dragged that team kicking and screaming after sennas death to even have a shot at wdc was remarkable. Hill to this day is still very sporting and is the gentleman that his father was.

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 Před 2 lety +1

      You have to remember, Williams never wanted to give Hill the drive to begin with. Originally it was going to be Mika Hakkinen, but Lotus played hardball and Williams had to back down and only gave Hill the drive because his mechanics liked him. While he did perform well in 1994, the fact he fell completely apart in 1995 (when he had the best car) was the nail in the coffin as far as Hill getting a long term deal out of it.

  • @POzziee
    @POzziee Před 2 lety

    What about adding "Hill to Arrows" after Williams dumped him?
    Mansell coming back to guest race in 94 for Williams after Senna's death. Then expecting to partner Hill in 95, only to loose out to the cheaper option of Coulthard. Then the mess that was his signing for McLaren.
    To me it felt like Adrian Newey followed Coulthard around, trying to make him a WDC winning cars that others (Hill, Villeneuve, Hakkinen and Vettel) did the job in?

  • @ralfhtg1056
    @ralfhtg1056 Před 2 lety

    About pronounciation: Vettel is actually pronounced "Fettel" as the letter v is more often than not pronounced like a very harsh f.

  • @moonmandesign
    @moonmandesign Před 2 lety +2

    Surtees quits Ferrari - 1966, joins Honda for ‘67.

  • @blist8329
    @blist8329 Před 2 lety +6

    As a new fan who only really started watching Formula 1 in 2017 I wasn't at all surprised that they dropped Sebastian. For the entirety of my fan Hood there have been memes about him spinning. I was actually surprised about the amount of outrage there was when he got dropped

    • @PozzaPizz
      @PozzaPizz Před 2 lety

      Memes about vettel spinning? Did I miss something

    • @map1526
      @map1526 Před 2 lety +1

      It was just a bit surprising because his 2019 performance wasn't that bad. It wasn't his best season and he could've beat Leclerc with a little more luck. I think another part was that Vettel was insanely passionate about Ferrari and wanted to win the title with them so it hurt to see the dream die.

    • @map1526
      @map1526 Před 2 lety

      Also up until that point, I think it was believed that Vettel would be resigning for 2021 onwards.

    • @the9der352
      @the9der352 Před 2 lety

      Well then you definitely joined in 2017🤣

    • @blist8329
      @blist8329 Před 2 lety +2

      @@the9der352 I mean he went from beating up on an old man to getting his points tally almost tripled by somebody much younger than him (LEC-98 VET-33)

  • @KlaximumSkroeft
    @KlaximumSkroeft Před 2 lety +1

    Pretty clear that Ferrari's decision to stop hiring champions and make their own is going to pay off. Sainz and Charles can both do it and they'll be looking good doing it.

  • @MulettoMotorsports
    @MulettoMotorsports Před 2 lety

    Reutemann retires two races into the 1982 season. Leaving Williams shuffling between Mario Andretti and Derek Daly.

  • @jgagnier
    @jgagnier Před 2 lety

    I would've guessed a top 3 of Rosberg, Hamilton's switch and Villeneuve's departure from WIlliams.
    Well, I got one right :)

  • @101Altaaf
    @101Altaaf Před 2 lety

    please make a video explainning Williams current struggles

  • @RCMgb
    @RCMgb Před 2 lety

    Anyone know the first song in the background?

  • @robertnguyen3925
    @robertnguyen3925 Před 2 lety +4

    I think looking back, Lewis' decision to move to Mercedes after Singapore 2012 was beyond shocking.
    However, I couldn't be more wrong. Singapore 2012 will forever be a pivotal moment in Hamilton's career. I remembered watching the race from the Padang grandstand and was in complete disbelief when the McLaren's gearbox gave out on lap 23. All week leading to the race, so many rumors about Lewis joining Mercedes. Less than a week later, well the rest is history. If it wasn't for the double DNFs in Italy and Singapore, combining the bad luck in Spain with the blown tire. 2010 could have been Hamilton's year. 2012, if McLaren has a more reliable car on both the mechanical side and race trim. F1's history could be so much different by now with all the what ifs?
    The 2009-2012 era was something to behold... well except 2011. Different weekends, different teams on form. McLaren, Red Bull, Lotus-Renault and Ferrari (thanks to Alonso) like usual. Then we would have a surprise midfield team joining the podium and even victory fight. One week it would be Mercedes, Force India, Sauber or Williams. Probably the most competitive era of F1's history from my viewpoint in terms of both drivers and teams' competitiveness.
    But well, that's racing...

  • @jayb2705
    @jayb2705 Před 2 lety

    With all the top drivers now signing these huge long term deals, we may not see a big shocking move for a while.

  • @1973HenkY
    @1973HenkY Před 2 lety +17

    Lewis Hamilton to Mercedes should have been in this. Max Verstappen going to Red Bull could also have been in this.

  • @frr1107
    @frr1107 Před 2 lety

    Huge respect for Mansell

  • @jj-qs7hw
    @jj-qs7hw Před 2 lety +2

    Latifi is the biggest shock for me

  • @SuperWowwowwowwowwow
    @SuperWowwowwowwowwow Před 2 lety

    Ferrari and Williams being the "why is it always you two" bunch in this one

  • @StuntcatTV
    @StuntcatTV Před 2 lety +1

    Once you're considered second driver at Ferrari, they don't give a damn about you anymore

  • @joachimvanwing8741
    @joachimvanwing8741 Před 2 lety

    Enzo Ferrari signing Villeneuve after his 1977 debut race with McLaren?
    Toyota signing Trulli as a future DWC contender?

  • @BossGamer435
    @BossGamer435 Před 2 lety +12

    I still believe to this to this day that rosberg could’ve been more competitive against Lewis than Bottas years after his retirement if he came back for 1 final year

    • @sergioreindorf909
      @sergioreindorf909 Před 2 lety +20

      Rosberg was a better racer than Bottas

    • @BossGamer435
      @BossGamer435 Před 2 lety +8

      Easy, I’m talking about him after 3-4 years after retirement I still think even with a long break out of the car he could come back and be a top driver

    • @antasena6043
      @antasena6043 Před 2 lety +2

      If Rosberg still going after '16 there's still posibility that he can challenge Lewis more than Bottas, or even change the result of '17 and '18 championship
      But there's also posibility he became like Kimi, who look like he had enough with only 1 WC and his performance start to downturn

    • @BossGamer435
      @BossGamer435 Před 2 lety

      @@antasena6043 that’s very true either could’ve happened I personally believe even if his performances started to dwindle he would still have been closer to bottas

    • @BossGamer435
      @BossGamer435 Před 2 lety

      Than bottas*

  • @AkersJohn
    @AkersJohn Před 2 lety

    Danny Ric not re-signing at RB caused Gasly to get promoted (prematurely, in hindsight) from then Torro Rosso, in conjunction with Sainz signing with McLaren, after being on loan to Renault. Additionally, it allowed Albon to have a seat as TR needed to fill a place, and all the RB juniors haven't really panned out (Albon was cut from the RB jr program pretty early on and he was going to drive in Formula E after finishing behind George and Lando in F2).
    I wonder if Danny Ric regrets leaving, as while he's won races at McLaren and Renault, he'll never drive a World Championship winning car again? It was his decision, and RB wanted him back, he made a mistake in leaving.

  • @tuomoseppala
    @tuomoseppala Před 2 lety

    K-Mag to HAAS 2022 is missing!

  • @gofurmia6997
    @gofurmia6997 Před rokem

    Imagine if vettel had stayed one more year at Rb and then going to Mercedes. The fights would be unreal

  • @Not_Matt
    @Not_Matt Před 2 lety

    Can we get a video on F1 drivers that walked away from their teams mid-season?

  • @damarfadlan9251
    @damarfadlan9251 Před 2 lety +1

    Hamilton's announcement of partnering Bottas in 2017 simply shocking.

  • @adrianhjordan1981
    @adrianhjordan1981 Před 2 lety +2

    "Everyone expected him [Ricardo] to sign a new contract for 2019"
    Erm, no. Quite a lot of us saw that he was not happy at RBR and expected him to leave. What was a surprise was that he went to Renault when many thought McLaren was more likely.

  • @TheBlackopsbeast360
    @TheBlackopsbeast360 Před 2 lety

    Imagine Ricciardo in the Alpine. It’s going to develop nicely over the course of this year.

  • @riggerthegeek
    @riggerthegeek Před 2 lety

    I love how reigning world championship retires is a massive shock when Rosberg does it, but not when Mansell does it - Mansell retired so many times

  • @Vindicator18
    @Vindicator18 Před 2 lety

    I think Perez to Red Bull in 2021 should be there, Senna to Williams in 1994, Kimi to Ferrari in 2007, The Michael's first retirement at the end of 2006, Hunt to McLaren in 1976, and Hamilton to Mercedes in 2013 (I think it was 2013).

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 Před rokem +1

      With Perez there are two lines of thought
      Red Bull hadn't signed a non-Red Bull driver for nearly15 years so would they look outside of the box now?
      Hulkenberg "fans" were convinced he was the better option and because Max was misquoted as saying he preferred Hulkenberg (he actually said he didn't care who his teammate was) they tried to claim he was toing to get the drive over Perez (they have been proven wrong)

  • @tomeddie14
    @tomeddie14 Před 2 lety +1

    Schumacher not on this list? Odd.. Schumacher to Benetton after Jordan, his move to Ferrari after 2x WDC, his shock retirement first time round, his return to F1?

    • @jiboo6850
      @jiboo6850 Před 2 lety

      dude do you realize how much represent 15 years career in F1? he was super tired and needed a break. his decision wasn't that hard to take. he just took the opportunity of Ferrari's changing mind to have a rest. he came back only 3 years later for another 3 years which means he has a 18 years carrer. it's HUGE for a champion.

  • @kushagranayyar3960
    @kushagranayyar3960 Před 2 lety

    Man what could have been if merc had brought on a rookie in 2017 instead of buying out bottas's contract.
    Maybe one Piere gasly the 2016 gp2 champ

  • @SilverScarletSpider
    @SilverScarletSpider Před 2 lety +1

    The biggest shock is that in 2022, Lance Stroll and William Latifi are still in F1

  • @squidcaps4308
    @squidcaps4308 Před 2 lety

    Hill to Arrows.

  • @andreipop1
    @andreipop1 Před 2 lety +1

    I see a common theme here with Ferrari. 😂

  • @pizzabagerenmujaffa8123

    Kmag to haas is the biggest for me

  • @aikanaro236
    @aikanaro236 Před 2 lety

    Montoya ans riccardo i think are the biggest ones.

  • @richardstreet7605
    @richardstreet7605 Před rokem

    Why not have a fine 10* the overspend and give the money to their rivals (and it doesn't count to their cost cap).

  • @ernestoaloia1785
    @ernestoaloia1785 Před 2 lety +2

    Daniel Ricciardo: what about start calling him by his actual name, which is Ricciardo (pron. Ryich-aardow), not Riccardo (pron. R-ick-aa-r-d-oh)?

    • @BiggieTrismegistus
      @BiggieTrismegistus Před 2 lety

      The biggest reason is that according Daniel Ricciardo your proposed pronunciation is incorrect.

    • @ernestoaloia1785
      @ernestoaloia1785 Před 2 lety

      @@BiggieTrismegistus is an Italian family name so it should be pronounced that way.

  • @leon7kaiser
    @leon7kaiser Před 2 lety

    So you're telling me we almost got a Lewis x Kimi pairing at McLaren 🤯🤯

  • @mplwnmp
    @mplwnmp Před rokem

    No Fittipaldi movement to Copersucar? Hmm…

  • @Slowburn_-lk4oh
    @Slowburn_-lk4oh Před 2 lety

    How is Schumis return not on this list even my mum knew about it

  • @mikoku921
    @mikoku921 Před 2 lety

    It's quite shocking how bad the Williams HR seems to have been in the 90's by losing 3 WDCs following their titles.

  • @feke5987
    @feke5987 Před 2 lety +1

    Alonso tried to go to RedBull for 2015??? Damn can you imagine Ricciardo and Alonso at RedBull.

    • @frankg2003
      @frankg2003 Před 2 lety

      I don’t know where they get Alonso trying to get a seat at RB. That’s the first time I’ve ever heard that, and I read everything F1.

  • @selder_7
    @selder_7 Před 2 lety +2

    I’ve so much respect for Rosberg’s retirement

  • @smally7725
    @smally7725 Před 2 lety

    I think Hamilton to Mercedes was a bit of a suprise. The still very competitive McLaren to the mid field Mercedes. Everyone thought it was a mistake. Oh how we were wrong