John Kordic vs Dave Brown - Oct 17, 1991

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  • @timbrown3646
    @timbrown3646 Před rokem +6

    Love how Dave Brown skits into the scene

  • @danski6694
    @danski6694 Před 3 lety +18

    This honestly has to be the most interesting footage ever for a hockey fight.
    Sure we’ve all seen the Flyers feed of just the fight 1000 times and even know it by heart - “when you’re talking heavyweights you’re talking these two guys “), but up until this point I’ve only HEARD about the Kordic vs Kordic near altercation. Never SEEN it.
    And boy is it almost uncomfortable to watch! John clearly initiated it with his little brother, who you could see told him “NO WAY” - I wont fight my brother.
    Then Brown comes over and challenges John Kordic, and you can clearly see Dan get upset by this. What an emotional situation this had to be for Dan!
    Sure we’ve seen Primeau vs Primeau, but their fight was more of an in the moment thing where it just broke out. This was John Kordic stepping on the ice and intentionally SEEKING his rookie brother Dan out! Incredible.
    Thanks for the footage! I’ve been watching this fight for almost 30 years and only finally saw the entire exchange!

    • @johnsrnec7596
      @johnsrnec7596  Před 3 lety +2

      You’re welcome. Glad you found my channel.

    • @Nightrain76
      @Nightrain76 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes the Flyers feed showed John and Dan having words as well. Bill Clement said “they’re having words too aren’t they!’”

    • @Mikey_Heels
      @Mikey_Heels Před 2 lety +1

      pretty sure Dan got interviewed at some point this night and said his mother wouldnt have approved of a fight between him and john... i always wondered where johns head was at different parts of his career

  • @MS-xi7zg
    @MS-xi7zg Před rokem +5

    If I'm not mistaken, that Philadelphia team had Dave Brown, Craig Berube, Jeff Chychrun and Rick Tocchet in their regular lineup. Those days are long gone. Today very few teams carry a designated enforcer and about half don't even have an everyday player who can legit throw em.

    • @johnsrnec7596
      @johnsrnec7596  Před rokem +3

      I think you’re remembering the 88/89 Flyers. They had Berube, Tocchet, Chychrun, and Brown (until he was traded to the Oilers) in the lineup as well as Carkner, Wells, and Mellanby. A team with more toughness than the entire NHL now.

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před rokem

      @@johnsrnec7596 The toughest team in NHL history. Berube, Brown and Chychrun beat Probert in fights. The Flyers owned Probert in the 1980's decade.

    • @tracyp218
      @tracyp218 Před 11 měsíci

      If I'm not mistaken I believe they had Dale Kushner 2👌

    • @scobo4743
      @scobo4743 Před 2 měsíci

      And HEXTALL!

  • @51515123
    @51515123 Před rokem +2

    I love that his brother Dan was on the ice too before he wore 21. RIP

  • @peterzess3989
    @peterzess3989 Před rokem +3

    Brown was a top ten all time scrapper, Kordic took on lots of tough customers.

    • @tracyp218
      @tracyp218 Před měsícem

      I guess you going to try to put. Disrobe bob Probert first huh?! How about let's put Dave Brown first and Bob Probert 2nd?!?!👌

  • @dennisalexanderson6975
    @dennisalexanderson6975 Před 4 dny +1

    Both great fighters, RIP John.
    Wonder what they were saying to each other after

  • @51515123
    @51515123 Před rokem +6

    Dave Brown handing John Kordic his ass was awesome. The french commentators were even better. RIP John Kordic

    • @huggbugg1000
      @huggbugg1000 Před rokem

      Didn't put a s ratch on Kordic

    • @51515123
      @51515123 Před rokem

      ​@@huggbugg1000 he was still handled. Situation diffused.

    • @spod11
      @spod11 Před rokem

      it wasnt Kordic calling for the refs to stop fight. Kordic stunned Brown.

    • @51515123
      @51515123 Před rokem

      @@spod11 kordic didn't make Brown buckle at all. At All! The last time I checked the art of winning a fight is either punch dude in the face more than he does to you or knock him out. Kordic (John) that is. Never did any of that in the fight. Everyone hates the fact when the Flyer's (Philadelphia) have the toughest dude in hockey. Browns never been KOd or handled. I'm sure he's got a lot of ones he'd like to run again but, still no one beat him. Just like Dan Kordic no one fully beat him. I know John is a legend but guess what legends get beat too.

    • @chr970
      @chr970 Před 4 dny

      @@51515123 Brown tough? Funny. Next thing you know you will be saying the Flyers of the 70s were tough. They aren’t tough now,….and they never have been.

  • @harleymichael83
    @harleymichael83 Před rokem +4

    Doesn't matter if Dan tried calling Dave Brown off his brother John, Brown had a role and he was gonna fulfill it no matter what anyone said.

    • @TheEwokExplorer
      @TheEwokExplorer Před rokem +1

      oh wow is John really Dan’s big bro? i always wondered about that. John is a legend but Dan also one helluva fighter and underrated

    • @harleymichael83
      @harleymichael83 Před rokem

      @@TheEwokExplorer yeah Dan Kordic had talked about it in an interview and how he didn't wanna fight because he didn't want his mom to see it. John was really messed up at that time. Brown was a battleship, if he wore the same jersey he had a duty to protect you.

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 3 lety +10

    Was that John's brother Dan he was arguing with at the start in the number 6 jersey with the Flyers????

    • @johnsrnec7596
      @johnsrnec7596  Před 3 lety +5

      Yes it is.

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 3 lety +7

      @@johnsrnec7596 It's good that they got to be in at least one NHL game together, then. :D It must've felt awkward for Dan, being on the other team while Brownie pounded his brother. :(

  • @jeanguyjulien6826
    @jeanguyjulien6826 Před 2 lety +3

    The French commentary is absolutely hilarious

  • @curtismammolite9746
    @curtismammolite9746 Před 3 lety +7

    Your own brother is there and can’t help you .wow

    • @shanemiller7697
      @shanemiller7697 Před 2 lety +1

      Check out the Hunter brothers they both were trying to get at each other to fight during a brawl.

  • @SN-nh6pq
    @SN-nh6pq Před 3 lety +7

    It was sad to see John Kordic in that form. Beyond substance abuse. Brown’s timing with that particular fight was opportunistic.

    • @danski6694
      @danski6694 Před 2 lety +5

      What was Brown supposed to do? Give him a pass?
      You don’t think half the heavies in the league at the time weren’t using substances regularly? Probert was using exactly what Kordic used - without steroids allegedly, and seemed to perform just fine.

    • @michaelt3308
      @michaelt3308 Před 2 lety +2

      @@danski6694 Solid point!

    • @khav11
      @khav11 Před 2 lety

      @@danski6694 probert was a cokehead...died at the age of 45 for its usage...way to go

    • @Ctown212
      @Ctown212 Před rokem

      Yeah totally Browns fault Kordic was a coke head

    • @mikeb6135
      @mikeb6135 Před rokem +1

      @@danski6694 Some ppl have that Ozzy Osbourne gene which enables them to ingest more drugs than anyone else.

  • @rogerzotti1
    @rogerzotti1 Před 2 lety +5

    huge uppercuts from Brown...

  • @glenfenderman
    @glenfenderman Před 3 lety +4

    Good fight!

  • @georgeanthony7282
    @georgeanthony7282 Před rokem +6

    I remember the game. At this point in John Kordic's personal life, he was a mess. A true sad moment in sports.

  • @user-hr1tw4bl4v
    @user-hr1tw4bl4v Před 2 lety

    💔💔💔КРАСАВЦЫ-РЕБЯТА👏👏👏!!!

  • @brawls16
    @brawls16 Před rokem +2

    Those guys knew how to toss punches with ill intent. Not too many were this kinda tough.

  • @pags8591
    @pags8591 Před rokem +1

    Sad..wanting to fight his brother..brown must have been telling him buddy are you feeling o.k? He was so tough on Montreal

  • @daveyboy_
    @daveyboy_ Před rokem +3

    Buy this time John's life was a shambles.

  • @Ctown212
    @Ctown212 Před rokem +4

    No way Kordic should have been standing after those uppercuts “fucking A” Coke is a helluva drug.

  • @EarlSkakel
    @EarlSkakel Před rokem +1

    So sad to see #44 in this form, you can literally feel his sadness and that had to be nuts for his brother to be able to do nothing but watch.

    • @tubbsthecat3080
      @tubbsthecat3080 Před rokem +1

      The Kordics played together their whole life. All they did was fight. And they played together in the AHL. This wasnt the first time theyve watched each other lose one
      .

    • @EarlSkakel
      @EarlSkakel Před rokem

      @@tubbsthecat3080 just makes it sadder to watch now since we know the eventual outcome of his life. Reading his book and knowing he was basically fighting for his dad’s approval and then seeing a clip like this brings it home.

    • @tubbsthecat3080
      @tubbsthecat3080 Před rokem +1

      @@EarlSkakel Ah I got ya now ! Yeah. Its tough. I always loved Dan Kordic ... probably my favorite flyer of all time. They had to put up a wall in the spectrum hallway in between the locker rooms so he and Brashear couldnt get to one another in between periods. Other than a brief stint with the hershey bears, I didnt get to see too much of John but heard plenty about his off ice issues.

    • @EarlSkakel
      @EarlSkakel Před rokem

      @@tubbsthecat3080 basically fought and would call his dad after games for approval and in this clip at least to me you can feel the sadness of both brothers.

    • @tubbsthecat3080
      @tubbsthecat3080 Před rokem

      @@EarlSkakel I knew he passed away young but I didnt realize that he died less than 6 months after this fight. I get it now. Crazy.

  • @jeffboyter9261
    @jeffboyter9261 Před 2 lety +1

    John didn’t have his tear-away velcro sleeves.

  • @stevegiannotti2338
    @stevegiannotti2338 Před 2 lety +4

    Brown wins!

  • @markvando6075
    @markvando6075 Před 3 lety +1

    Not too often you see 2 dominant lefties fighting. Good tilt.

    • @drakeschroeder9483
      @drakeschroeder9483 Před 2 lety

      John Kordic was NEVER dominant. He was a pillow puncher.

    • @markvando6075
      @markvando6075 Před 2 lety

      @@drakeschroeder9483 get a grip. He used both Jay Miller and Basil McRae as his personal speed bags.

  • @joseperez1085
    @joseperez1085 Před 3 lety +10

    What a beating Johns face hit Dave`s hand really hard

    • @drakeschroeder9483
      @drakeschroeder9483 Před 2 lety

      Brown rarely hurt anyone but his first fight against Stu. Most of his punches looked lethal but almost always skipped over helmets. Smaller guys like Huard and Ashram used to HURT guys because of their height and leverage.

    • @christopherjaskowiak9327
      @christopherjaskowiak9327 Před 2 lety +8

      Brown broke bones in fights with Ken Baumgartner, Tim Coulis, and Stu Grimson. He also dropped guys like Jim McKenzie, Shawn Cronin, Cam Russell, Jeff Parker, Jim Kyte, Jay Miller, and Jay Wells. Brown had brutal punching power, no doubt about it.

    • @joseperez1085
      @joseperez1085 Před 2 lety +3

      What is funny here John and his brother Dan Kordic were having words until Brown came by and rearranged his face…

    • @matturibe7037
      @matturibe7037 Před rokem

      @@drakeschroeder9483 Funny I don't hear the heavy weight champ on that list. Cuz Brown got dropped by the best!!! Rip Probert!!!

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před rokem

      @@drakeschroeder9483 You absolutely don't have a clue of what you're taking about...

  • @johnhoyt9073
    @johnhoyt9073 Před rokem +2

    don't know where dave brown is today but I bet his hands hurt. great flyers fights...

    • @tallmike6598
      @tallmike6598 Před rokem +1

      I think he is a scout for the Flyers now.

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      @jockejocke1 Před 3 měsíci

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  • @grep67
    @grep67 Před 2 lety +1

    John #44, Dan #6.. what the heck? haha

  • @Shooter_McGoo
    @Shooter_McGoo Před 3 lety +11

    Brown won, but Rambo was past him prime and pretty Coked up. I love to have seen them fight in 87.

    • @brucesturton8521
      @brucesturton8521 Před 3 lety +1

      Agreed 👍

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 3 lety +4

      Were you coked up when you fought Dean Youngblood????? I once called myself "Racki20" on thedilly back in the day!!!!!

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety +5

      Kordic was 26 years of age and Brown was 29 years of age. Kordic was never in Brown's league ever period! I'm a Habs fan first...

    • @kingdavid7571
      @kingdavid7571 Před 2 lety

      I'm a Kordic fan, but Brownie is in the top 5 most feared by other players.

    • @spod11
      @spod11 Před 2 lety +1

      @@mirandasalinas9412 Brown called for refs to stop the fight when Kordic was starting to connect. What a wimp.

  • @mikemike1071
    @mikemike1071 Před 3 lety +8

    Brown got the jump, tied up Kordic's left arm, and won.

    • @goathair33
      @goathair33 Před 3 lety +5

      “Brown got the jump” was kind of how they all went

    • @steelcurtainpayne9318
      @steelcurtainpayne9318 Před 3 lety

      Kordic’s a different animal son!!!!!!!!!

    • @edx21x
      @edx21x Před 3 lety +2

      Brown was a jumper but not in this one. Watch the replay that’s a even start. 2:14

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety

      That was an even start with both guys dropping the gloves off at the same time. This fight was already brewing and was going to happen. Brown bashed Kordic with 8 punches before Kordic threw his first. Brown kept pounding him with Kordic desperately trying to get something going. Clear win in a beating from Brown. Kordic was never in Brown's league period!

    • @spod11
      @spod11 Před rokem

      @@mirandasalinas9412 it wasnt Kordic begging for refs to stop fight.

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 3 lety +7

    Big Dave looked like such a tank on the ice.

    • @STEJTHEGREATEST
      @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 3 lety +8

      @@ddarrenturner I wish they could all come back to the game, though. Brown, Probert, Kocur, Kordic, Grimson, McSorley, Crowder, Tocchet, Domi, even Brashear!!!!! :(

    • @danski6694
      @danski6694 Před 3 lety

      @@ddarrenturner 😂

    • @alainmallette2265
      @alainmallette2265 Před 3 lety +1

      @@STEJTHEGREATEST
      Wilson

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před rokem +1

      @@STEJTHEGREATEST Donald Brashear is one of the Goats . I rank him number 5 greatest fighter in NHL history.

  • @liamoconnor9017
    @liamoconnor9017 Před 2 lety +3

    Dave Brown best enforcer ever plus love the OV keefs scoreboard

    • @uddielad
      @uddielad Před 2 lety +3

      Yah until Probert pumped him after getting jumped. Brown was tough but jumped guys like Semenko. Probert tuned look it up..

    • @matturibe7037
      @matturibe7037 Před rokem +2

      Ya Probert might say otherwise!! Plus most NHL Analysis, We know who the GOAT Is and it isn't the color brown! RIP Probert!!! 24

    • @insertnamehere313
      @insertnamehere313 Před rokem +1

      Probert was the best period Numbers proves it as well.

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před rokem

      @@uddielad Search Probert the jumper headbutting ram 🐏 vs Sandy McCarthy.

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před rokem

      @@matturibe7037 Brown was the Goat of the 1980's decade up too Jan 9,1991. Here's the proof fellow. Check out his early years fight card. Search on Google: Philadelphia Flyers top 10 fighters in franchise history. Brown was traded too the Oilers in February 1989. Oilers general manager coach Glenn Sather said that his team was getting pushed around too much. Sather said Brown was " THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS " Brown was the number 1 fighter on the fight cards in 1985 1986 into 1987. Probert was a co champ with Dave Brown during the latter 1987-1988 season. Probert then began to slide in the number of games played during the 1988-1989 season with just 25 NHL games played. Probert fell off the radar with only 4 games played during the 1989-1990 season. Kocur moved up too number 2. Probert was the jail cell chump in a Minnesota state prison for 3 months and 3 more months in a halfway house. Brown was number 1 singly the toughest most feared and destructive fighter in 1989 1990 . The GOAT 🐐. PROBERT WAS THE JAIL CELL GOAT... LMAO. Probert won the belt from Brown on Jan 9,1991 too April 1994 until Sandy McCarthy dethroned Bob Probert the jumper headbutting ram. Keep QUIET KID

  • @andy42x
    @andy42x Před 3 lety +3

    Thumbnail looks like Eric lindros

    • @johnsrnec7596
      @johnsrnec7596  Před 3 lety +1

      Nordiques fans wish it was Lindros.

    • @andy42x
      @andy42x Před 3 lety +2

      @@johnsrnec7596 he shoulda gone there instead of being a selfish baby

    • @danski6694
      @danski6694 Před 3 lety

      Should’ve went to the RANGERS!

  • @pags8591
    @pags8591 Před 2 lety +1

    Sad day..troubled man..wanted to fight his brother.

  • @brsfan66
    @brsfan66 Před rokem +1

    What did Jay Miller do fight Dave Brown 11 times? John Kordic fights him once and loses. Never fought him again. That just proves that Miller was a heavyweight and Kordic had rapid paper punches.

    • @johnsrnec7596
      @johnsrnec7596  Před rokem

      Kordic fought plenty of heavyweights, just like Miller. Also he didn’t fight Brown again probably because he never played him again, this was his last season and he only played 18 games before his passing.

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před rokem

      Jay Miller was Brown's personal practice punching bag. Brown 9 wins 1 draw and only lost 1.

    • @brsfan66
      @brsfan66 Před rokem +1

      @@mirandasalinas9412 you're an idiot.

    • @khav11
      @khav11 Před rokem

      @@brsfan66 miller lost brown 6-7 times, all on youtube. enjoy.

    • @Bruins-vq5ey
      @Bruins-vq5ey Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@khav11your idioticy is all over you tube..enjoy
      6-2-2 miller over brown all time jackwad

  • @user-hu3ed5xy6d
    @user-hu3ed5xy6d Před 4 měsíci

    Тогда там и была реализована лига!!!

  • @STEJTHEGREATEST
    @STEJTHEGREATEST Před 3 lety +8

    0:09 Makes me wonder if Dan was trying to keep Brownie out of his confrontation with his brother, there!!!

    • @danski6694
      @danski6694 Před 3 lety

      ABSOLUTELY LOOKS LIKE IT!

    • @jetshull
      @jetshull Před 3 lety +1

      @@danski6694 no shit....lol.

    • @danski6694
      @danski6694 Před 2 lety

      @@jetshull take it easy - he was still “wondering” so I agreed with him

    • @jetshull
      @jetshull Před 2 lety +1

      @@danski6694 I know.....I was agreeing...lol

  • @DD-fm7xb
    @DD-fm7xb Před rokem

    Kordic was getting pounded till he landed one shot, and as per usual, Brown immediately grabbed and held on to stop the fight

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před rokem

      Yup, Kordic was getting pounded and bloodied.

    • @edx21x
      @edx21x Před rokem

      that was a one sided win for Brown.

  • @David-hl3kw
    @David-hl3kw Před rokem +1

    I can't stand Dave Brown Rob Ray knocked out Brown I loved it

  • @joesph206
    @joesph206 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Brownie the win.

  • @ryanwilliams8390
    @ryanwilliams8390 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Couldn't hurt Kordic getting hammered pretty good and he wasn't half the fighter he use to be here Brown was over rated as a fighter.

  • @jockejocke1
    @jockejocke1 Před 3 lety +5

    0:40
    What are they saying about Gino Odjick and Saddam Hussein?
    I mean wtf ?!

    • @francois-etiennelavoie4524
      @francois-etiennelavoie4524 Před 3 lety +4

      During the gulf war someone made a banner sayin "Odjick is stronger than Sadam Ussain" then Odjick asked what his Sadam's number?

    • @jockejocke1
      @jockejocke1 Před 3 lety +3

      @@francois-etiennelavoie4524 lol thank you

    • @danski6694
      @danski6694 Před 2 lety

      @@francois-etiennelavoie4524 THAT IS FUCKING AWESOME!
      Did the Canadian Army participate in any operations though or were they just in the rear with the gear like usual?

    • @francois-etiennelavoie4524
      @francois-etiennelavoie4524 Před 2 lety

      @@danski6694 lol i can't remember what they did in the gulf war, however, you seem to know more than me....

    • @danski6694
      @danski6694 Před 2 lety +1

      @@francois-etiennelavoie4524 Lol. Sorry my comment was part troll. But part truth also.
      I was in 5th grade for the gulf war, but the war in iraq - I was there with the US Army. The Canadian Army was there along with Japan and Poland, but they pretty much did nothing. The British and Australian Armies, especially the British, fought side by side with us.

  • @kristinejackson8268
    @kristinejackson8268 Před 2 lety

    When brown gets hit hard he turns into huggey bear watch at the end of the fight

  • @snoxbox
    @snoxbox Před 2 lety +1

    Kordic died from enlarged heart cos of steroid abuse.

    • @Mikey_Heels
      @Mikey_Heels Před 2 lety

      i havent looked at that story much since he died but the altercation with police definitely was reported as being a factor... apparently the restraints used in the hotel room left deep creases in his body... i remember CURRENT AFFAIR actually did a story on it

  • @bondjames652
    @bondjames652 Před rokem

    Kordic couldn't fight.

  • @alainmallette2265
    @alainmallette2265 Před 3 lety

    Edge Brown
    But no real damage done.

    • @edx21x
      @edx21x Před 3 lety +6

      I don’t know. That looked pretty decisive.

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety +1

      @Alain Mallette... It's never too late for you to get that Lasik eye surgery for yourself. LMAO You call yourself a fight analyst? 🤣

    • @alainmallette2265
      @alainmallette2265 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mirandasalinas9412
      How many puncres landed?
      Did any of the combatants looked dazed?
      Not as brutal as many fanboys want it to be.

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety

      @@alainmallette2265 He pummeled Kordic and Bloodied his nose...

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety

      @@alainmallette2265 Kordic was on my Habs team. I'm a Habs fan first but Chris Nilan and Kordic were not tough enough vs Brown. You comprehend fanboy???

  • @mikeyninefingers734
    @mikeyninefingers734 Před 3 lety +4

    Jay Miller owned both these clowns

    • @kendallbuote6182
      @kendallbuote6182 Před 3 lety +2

      Jay Miller was a pillow puncher

    • @phillycardshark9257
      @phillycardshark9257 Před 3 lety +5

      Jay Miller couldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight!!!

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety +3

      Kordic beat Miller more often... LMAO 🤣

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety +3

      You probably own other accounts... @Ufcenforcer @ Bruins 1970... give it up with your Miller...

    • @mirandasalinas9412
      @mirandasalinas9412 Před 3 lety

      @@kendallbuote6182 Yes he predominantly was. You sir absolutely know your hockey fights facts...