SUPER EXPENSIVE RC CAR LESSON | Belted RC Tires
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Underpowered ESC get a spektrum, castle, or hobbywing and keep the motor. Big difference!
Seriously. Just get a HW and I bet it's 50plus with same gears and everything.
I saw the video when you installed those belted tires. I thought to myself “does he know that they are going to make it slower?”. Guess you found out….. Eventually
haha, same. I was yelling its the tires in the first minute.
@@iflyrcmike i get 50mph with the belted gravix and stock electronics and gearing
I get 48mph
Reminds of pinewood derby. The more surface contact on the tire, the slower it goes. The less surface contact, the less friction, the faster it goes. In this case I think it might be the same, including weight.
Funny, I thought belted tires would’ve been faster! thanks for the lesson!
Thanks Mark for find out what the problem was and was not.
I was going to purchase the XRT Ultimate but did not want to spend
1600.00 . So now I will buy the XRT. And save 500.00 Dollars.
From my experience, belted tired are good for speed runs, but they aren't good for bashing. They're harder and don't hook up as well, heavier, and you want your tires to balloon a little when doing backflips because it gives you more air control.
I took my brand new XRT out and within 10 mins blew the gears.... while its a cheap fix. It really pisses me off that Traxxas would not include the hard steel gears out of thr box ffs.
Strange, all of the product information and reviews all mention that the gears are machined hardened steel, is it possible you just ended up with a genuine lemon (gear wise at least)?
Glade you showed us the whole story. Seeing it go by on speed run does not look like tires are ballooning enough to gain that much more speed.It was a little dark in video but I felt that way about other cars I have seen on speed runs. I thought sure it was batteries because I have seen that multiple times.
I had the exact issue with my XRT. Used my old 6700s and would only see 44 out of it. Got some fresh batteries and saw 47 and then I pulled the belted tires off and put the stock ones back on and saw 53. lol I was pretty dang shocked. Was on a warmer day though so I imagine the cold we are dealing with at the moment may be why you are a couple MPH slower still.
Thanks Mark for going above and beyond to do all the research necessary to prove why your Traxxas XRT is so slow.
LOL!! I thought I was the only one with a large garage nic nac! 2005 Mustang with only 15k miles 🤭
Alex kowaliuk here, I'm glad you dug into this as hard as you did , wow.
My xrt came with a bent spur shaft, and a some sort of metal pimple on the stock motor shaft. Caused it to strip gears unknowingly to me. Finally figured it out and called Traxxas. There answer was “o ya, that’s within tolerance”. 😂 What!! Last traxxas I will ever buy.
Get rid of those batteries to and get higher C rated
Wow that's awesome 🎉👏glad to see you got some snow, looks like you got to enjoy it still crazy you got that much snow
Thank you for making this video. I have an XRT with a 1100 KV G2 and Max 5 G2 in it... Let's just say ballooning is real in the front tires and I no longer have a front tires.. this will significantly slow down the car to make it more drivable. Definitely getting the belted 10:44 tires now...Greatly appreciate the video
Just got the sledgehammers and they look so good on the XRT
Dude... Man... Mark.... Mr. Santa Maria... I somehow think you knew this. Somewhere in your head this knowledge must have already been stored... With your history in RC... I guess the part of you that wants to get new RC stuff just blocked that knowledge. 😂 Great Video. I think that will help a lot of people who want to see that extra few Miles...
_I truly thought that this was going to be one of the very first things he checked! He handles so many products that he simply forgot he even swapped out the tires since they look nearly identical to the OEM set!_
*_Crazy!_*
Heck yeah! You learned something that's what matters!
My Rlaarlo AMD12 has huge tires for the platform it's built on (wltoys 12) and for that reason alone, it does 39mph on 2s, and 53mph on 3s.
It outruns my friend's MJX infraction while my friend runs 3s. That's mainly due to the ridiculous tire diameter on my car (96mm). But if i switch to different wheels, just 90mms, he outruns me instead.
Not for nothing, but a stock Wltoys 124016 will do 49mph on 2s with 87mm tires. But point taken, tires are one of the easiest and biggest performance changing components that can be made, yet one of the most overlooked.
Also most belted tires are around 20% heavier than stock tires. That really messes with performance all around.
So when would you want to use them? For racing or something, where you want it not to Balloon, maybe?
Where is the Maxx slash Track vids. I need more Info😂😂😂😂 I can’t wait till the 8th lmao
Thanks so much. I have an xrt ultimate and was like dang this thing is incredibly slow. Only used it twice. I randomly picked up unbelted tires for it during the sale when it started. I’ll have to run it now that I have it on. I was about to change the gearing
In you old videos comparing you Xmaxx sledge and xrt you got like 50 or closer to 60 mph
A great watch as yes, what a rabbit hole you went down but good to see you come back out!! 🐰😆 Who’d of thought the difference, I didn’t know myself so something learned. 😎👍
Great video. Good research
Good information. Thanks for sharing.
Hey Mark, do you know what kind of adapter I need to use that XBC100 smart checker for my traxxas batteries? I am going to purchase that thing today
Have to change the gearing for the tires.
Wow👏🏼👏🏼 We learn something new everyday. 🤟🏼
You can't forget about the tires! When I slapped Hoss tires on my 2WD Stampede, it stopped wheeling as much and became more stable overall. It also lost some speed due to the added weight of the Hoss tires compared to the stock talon tires.
Always great information car looks insane sounds good
Good show man that would drive me crazy also
All Traxxas cars and trucks stock out the box will not do the speed on the box
They aren't supposed to. 😂
@@jamesplymire5342perhaps they shouldn't "advertise" it then, yeah?
I could tell by the sound it wasn't winding up like it should. Glad you figured it out.
No you couldn’t!! Liar. There’s no way dog. Cmon man. Really? You got canine hearing?
Hi, on my Rustler 2wd vxl, due to issues with rear exploding tires, I put Louise (same as Duratrax) belted tires that are a little bigger than my previous conventional Louise tires and the original ones and I didn't notice any difference in speed. (Maybe a lil bit acceleration due to extra weight)..
The fact that the tires are slightly larger compensates for the typical expansion of conventional tires at high speeds. But in your case, the belted and non-belted tires seem to be identical in size, which if we add the extra weight, affects even more the top speed of your car.
May have been exhausting for you but great consumer information and an entertaining watch
Nice investigation! Good 2 know!
I have worked on cars for many years and always check the easy stuff 1st. I can't count how many times a vehicle has come in with problems and it is just a fuse.
I put belted tires on my granite 3s and I took them off so quick because of the same reason lol
Get an Arrma, 😱 they always reach their top speeds.
Nice buddy!
Mark, I really enjoyed this video because I felt your pain going thru those gymnastics, and when you said, "I'm done..." 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hopefully Traxxas will let you expense this 😅👍
Was it the tires not ballooning, or the extra weight slowing it down? Or both?
How do you fond the servo? Would you recommend that over the perfect pass monster servo? Looks like I will stick to the standard tyres also
When the tires expand, they change the ratio of the gearing. Too bad we couldn't adapt this concept to full scale. "Expanding tires". 😉😉😉😁 PS: I miss my 1982 5.0 Mustang. It had only 3200 miles on it when I bought it from the Ford dealership I worked at. I sold it three months later for a $1200 profit. I'll always regret that decision.
Glad that I will buy the XRT Ultimate.
NEEDS a HW max5 g2
Cool!❤🎉
Screw the Traxxas power system …put a castle monster mamba X with a 1650kv motor 😅
Great video
Nonbelievers tires expand changing the gear ratio in 5he tires . U look at top fuel cars at the growth of those slicks from start to finish it a ton of difference.
Check your driveline make sure you can spin your hubs with your fingers I heard some of the diff covers are binding?
FINALLY THE MUSTANG!!!!!! I am so glad to see it still movin.
This is why i tell people to avoid Belted tires if you a big basher. Simply venting tires, taping the holes in the rims, Add earplugs to the center diff and bash away! It will almost eliminate the balloning of front tires.
Earplugs in the center diff? Can you explain more, please? I'm curious
Glad that I will buy the XRT Ultimate.
@@AKYLE315 it’s a commen way of locking it
Vent the tires and taping a hole in the rim? My rims come with holes already. Am I missing something?
Yup. Plug the holes on the rim with tape or glue. Then make 2 holes on the tire on opposite ends. I use my soldering iron with a pointy tip. Works perfect!! MUST DO THIS!!
Glad that I prefer belted tires.
Cool video...I was engaged. I would have started from the outside of the rig to the inside when troubleshooting speed.
Curious what you thought of the servo?
Mark, have you hooked your transmitter up with Traxxas Link to make sure it’s not limiting the throttle?
My XMaxx ultimate is way slow and I even put a 46 spar on it. I mean I bet you it doesn’t even it does right around 40 right now I’m gonna throw a set of my StockX max tires on it and try it now that’s interesting. I knew it would. It took some of the speed out of it but I just thought of it right before you said it, thanks man👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
I always gear up for belted tires. My Erevo lost over 10% on belted tires as they were a little bit smaller diameter and no expansion
If its cold outside the lipo batterys won't be able to do the same discharge rate. Run time can be reduced too. I can't wait for summertime!
Put the belted tires back on and use a larger pinion
That will put more heat into the power system as the belted tires are heavier than the non belted
It made the Kessel Run in less than 12 parsecs.
My XRT has a Hobbywing max 5/800kv combo with a 25/25 belt drive, want to race? Haha just kidding, it's almost undriveable but it's a ridiculous amount of fun...as long as the tires don't blow off.
Awesomeness
Nice car cool video enjoy the weekend brother
The Traxxas VXL-8s ESC isn't known for it's excellence. (Neither one of my X-Maxx or XRT did they ever fail. They're adequate at best..) It's only when you replace them with something else you actually see how the stock ESC is limited. Also use better batteries.. Traxxas batteries are pretty lame and overpriced for what they are.
Some 80-100c 4s batteries will help in that regard too.
I threw in HW Max-6 ESCs in both and once you calibrate the throttle they are a completely different animal.
I recommend that to everyone even with the stock motor (which is decent enough) it's a huge difference. Max punch, steel spur and pinion (20/50) and you're ready to party.
**EDIT** throw on a set of X-Maxx tires if you really wanna get fast and sketchy lol.
When a typical RC basher guy gets an opportunity to see a professional RC racing program it seems like it's in a different language because you haven't experienced it it's the latest in technology across the board I started when I was a teenager and I've been following it for many many years
Oh shit you have one to!?! Iv got a 2015 mustang that is work car. I put like 2-300 miles a day for work on the poor thing lol I'm at 160k and not a single problem!
what did you use to mount the speed meter to the car? Ive been looking for ways to mount it because ive got the same one.
Velcro bro. Pay attention
@rudysrc6652 thanks. Not math class though, don't need to pay that much attention.
Nice work buddy 👍
My XRT has 2 pins under the motor, I see yous has 4 , did I lose 2 ? Is everyone else has 4 ?
You still use the pun system for mesh set up? I didnt think anyone used that any more. So that being said, is your mesh set right, or could it be to tight.? Just a brain thought.
Have Fun.
Did you put the belted tires on it like you said you were gonna.
Yeah, I agree that is definitely is quite a performance difference I think I’m just gonna stick with stock unbelted tires for now as a basher
Second go around much faster!! 😊
With belted tires you need to gear up because the don't grow as the unbelief tires do
In the traxxas app did you turn up the throttle to 120%? That should gain you about 4 mph!
What did you think of the new servo Mark?
That’s rough!
Time to test the X-Maxx Ultimate now, haha!
Talbot did. I think it a 34 stock and 39 speed gear. It was slow
Thank you bro for letting me join your channel I like your Channel
Thanks for sharing, I definitely wouldn't have thought it would make such a difference. Definitely keep this in mind when Icbuy tires now.
Yo mark tho what you finna do with the faulty* brushles system cus it would look nice in my revo ynyn😂
Im getting 50mph with the belted tires using stock electronics and gearing...
Would be cool if they could make belted tires that could expand some but not allow the tires to explode.
You should get better batteries and electronics..those traxxas products are meh.. love the vid btw that was interesting
I feel bad for him. Ive dumped close to 300 on my traxxas slash and this alone is like triple that
Why doesn't yours wheelie off the start mine always pulls wheelies and its bone stock everything gearing too and mines way faster on 5000 4s batteries
Best Tires period are The Arrma Dboot Backflips 8's
My xrt hit 54 mph stock
👍👍
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This is not an indictment of the belted tyres, but proof that batteries make a big difference on top speed runs, and that gearing is critical for a fixed amount of wattage.
How’s u come to that conclusion? He changed the batteries and it went no faster. When he changed the tires, it did.
It did go faster… go back and look again bro!
Traxxas stuff is cool but thers no race heritage there at all. RC is The Cutting Edge of future Technologies that are up-and-coming. Traxxas is basically a plastic replica of older race technology but with big gears and and big motor. They have apps and software and Racers have it too but it's a little different and probably more complicated it always is when it's brand new and still being race tested. Traxxas gets it 10 years later and it gets made into a plastic toy replica that looks looks cool but and u get a high speed turf running but u don't get the engineering like what you would get with an RC 10
I always thought smaller diameter/less expansion meant more RPMs…..how would non belted be faster. Weird
Try different tires
Unrelated but have you noticed the BL-2S 4x4 vehicles are coming with the wrong spur gears. In the Manuel they say it has a 52T but it has a 54T installed not a major issue but enough to make them go under 25th 😂
For as long as you have been involved with rc I can’t believe you didn’t know that belted tires are heavier than non belted tires
It’s not the weight genius… it’s the circumference at speed.
Oh hi Mark
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