I Fell More in Love with Side x Sides...
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- čas přidán 2. 03. 2022
- We reignite our passion for vintage side by side shotguns, joining Simon Reinhold of Holts Auctioneers to shoot one of the most memorable pairs of guns we have ever shot.
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Watching the two of you, I am reminded of the old adage, "It's not the bow; it's the archer." As lovely as the guns are, the two of you - priceless..
I have to say it again. I love Simon Reinhold! His spirit and joy echos through my computer screen, and makes me so happy! I cant get enough. Thank you both for this!
This is why I could never shoot an under and over. Its days like these why, I have always loved and shot side by sides Also that is an awesome loaders box. Simon has the type of personality that just makes you smile and you can feel your heart glow he is a proper gentleman.
Ok thanks take care
I’m coming back to shooting after a 30 year sabbatical and this content is just superb. Well done to all involved.
I know my 525 OU is a more practical, efficient clay buster (when I can actually hit anything!), but I get so much more pleasure from my old SxS. OK, it's not an English Hammer or Sidelock, but gives me that ineffable sense of rightness which means I enjoy the day even with a lousy card at the end.
I do love the rapport you have with your shooting partners. With Ant or Ryan it's very laddish and clearly great fun but shooting with Simon brings out the more reserved, respectful attitude of the Student towards the Master 😄. I've written it before but I could listen to Mr. Reinhold all day long.
Ball falls from the arrivals ship down 5 o'clock?
I'm a old bird hunter in USA. This video is amazing.
Top 10 gun moment indeed!😎 - makes my £70 AYA No3 look a little basic - but I do love shooting it even if my 50 sporting score suffers a little by using it - it's that warm fuzzy feeling you mentioned, with the associated smile 😁
Fascinating and beautifully filmed , always great hearing you and Simon chatting , informative and entertaining, love to hear Simon talking on the historical background of barrell length and technique fashions (lancaster, churchill etc)
Another fantastic story . I have been hanging for this story ever since Simon started talking about it on his page . These stories fill in the Sunday morning while we have our rain storms and floods in OZ ...........and nobody is keen to go outside and lay down some lead on the sporting range .
Looks like a pair of good friends enjoying their passion. So great to see in all the videos you do together. Savor the moments. John you are putting out a fantastic product!
Takes me back to my Teens ( 50 years) with my old Braddell Hammer gun with a cracked stock and wee French 16 bore really enjoyed this video Thank you
Extremely awesome video love to see more of the side-by-side‘s in action thanks for sharing!!!!!
Excellent Video! I've got 6 SxSs and love them dearly. I don't think I could ever go back to my O/U's. Maybe it's time I pass them along as an early inheritance to the kids!
I really enjoyed that, having just purchased an AYA no 4 I now understand the joy of old side by sides. Thank you Simon for the bit of history too. Looking forward to the full catalogue for the March auction at Holts.
I enjoyed it too thanks my friend, how's Wendy and the hernia 😂
Fantastic video! Amazing guns! More videos on antique and classic sxs guns PLEASE. Thanks for sharing gentlemen.
Truly a delight to watch, thank you very much gentlemen!
Hello from Madrid, Spain. I wat to congratulate both of you for your way of "acting". It is fun and it does teach about gun and shooting.It is a pleasure to learn about English guns and the long history behind the inventions and making. I am a sxs gun collector, mostly Spanish and European guns but got some English doubles as well. All of them give me (and also my daughters and son) a incredible felling while shooting and even when simply I look at them. For me, There is no better shoot than with a sxs. Keep on with these videos and teaching.
I have been shooting shotguns since my father bought me a 410 some 56 years ago
and have not stopped since. When I arrived in New Zealand so 34 years ago I turned
to muzzle loading as back then I could shoot the legal limit of ducks on Lake Ellesmere
in a morning. It was just too easy, so to make it harder (and enjoyable) I turned to muzzle
loading and have not looked back. I even competed for NZ and for the five years in
Australia too on clays.
I shoot pheasants on beaters day on Craigmore Station and have a ball.
You rave about double gunning with old guns!
How about trying it with real antiques and take a pair of muzzle loaders out!
My wish is to do beaters day with a flintlock, now there is a challenge.
Love the video's on the older shotguns.
Thank you for sharing.
I’ve been eagerly waiting for this to uploaded. Great episode! Simon just radiates style and those hammer guns were beautiful. I currently shoot with a Miroku over and under. The TGS channel and Johnny are largely to blame for that. Hoping to pick up an older English or Scottish SxS in the coming months which I’ll blame Simon for!
Keep up the awesome content.
I purchased my first hammer gun last year, a Bonehill 20g. The best shooting experience I've ever had. Only shot two days with it, but wow, I'm hooked. There's just something about shooting a best English 140 year old gun that still feels like it was made yesterday.
Oh my... I had a 12 bore Bonehill with mint bores (damascus) back in the 90s. I should NEVER have sold it.... could not find another like it. I did eventually buy, sight unseen, a "wall hanger only" sidelock Hollis. The old girl has some barrel pits, and I would not shoot fairy dust in it, but Black Powder has less than half the peak pressure, so it is quite safe with that. Yes I did proof fire it before hanging on to it. There was no finish left on it so I browned the barrels as they would have originally been finished that way....and removing a couple of dents (yes I am a gun smith). It's a very nice gun.
Finding those lovely old external hammer guns in New Zealand these days is like Unicorn hunting....
@@KathrynLiz1
The one I bought was just about to be exported from the UK to the USA. So thankfully saved it from disappearing, probably for ever. Nothing against our American neighbours but good usable older English guns are getting harder to find here now. I live not 40 miles from where this Bonehill was made. It's probably travelled a bit further than that in the last 140 years but still makes me smile that if it had legs it could walk home.
Thanks for the view into the history of British bird hunting. The shotguns are obsolutely beautiful, but not easy running two shotguns at a time.
Thanks again from a fellow sportsman from pennsylvania.
Went to a Christmas clay shoot and we did DTL with 5 different sxs’s
It was a fantastic experience and now I’m looking at buying one
My favourite was the hammer gun, first ever go with sxs and double trigger
What fun!!!
Excellent video and wonderful explanation of the love of side by sides.
Couldn't agree with you more.
They looked great fun lads. What a lovely pair of guns 👌👊
I love my WR Pape - never been able to cock both hammers at once though. For those interested in rate of fire, a non-ejecting hammer gun is not going to suit - but it's like the black powder brigade - it just makes it more memorable (and not just the birds/clays - I've gone back to shooting schools years apart on corporate days where an instructor has recognised me because of the hammer gun - wouldn't happen with a 686/525 etc). Always fun....plus a great excuse for missing
Gosford Park? You guys just inspire me, I cannot express what romanticism of the 19th C you give me in this video. The look in your eyes and expressions on both your faces is just....Johnny, I salute you for your love of all things country. I can't stop clapping for you.
We have O/U's and shoot clays but there is something special about a SxS. Can you and Simon continue to do more videos? Just love them.
I still have my AYA no 3 magnum.It was my only gun in the 1970’s and was advised to have it bored IC and half .I used to do a lot of beating back then and it has shot pheasants on some prestigious estates.Although I now shoot an O/U When I pick it up I am very tempted to use it again ,it feels just right.
12:38 "bit of a delay" (pauses music) Brilliant! 😂
So much fun.
Absolutely! I can't think of a better gun design.
Great video! 👏🏻
Invested in an L.C Smith based on your videos.. It’s now my favorite everything gun.. It’s insane how much you get for the money
I really enjoyed this video. Johnny and his merry bunch of friends "made" me ditch my pump guns for side-by-sides and an over-under. Best regards from Wyoming. 😊
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I learnt to shoot with a side by side. I have several and just love them.
I had my hammer gun epiphany a few years ago. I have a pair of Joseph Harkom hammer guns (they live somewhere on Simon’s instagram from last year’s British SxS championship). They have that quality of just seeming to connect with everything and are a real joy to use. I don’t find the lack of ejectors an impediment to single gunning either, especially if you perfect the technique of flicking both cartridges out at the same time - an extension of the double cocking technique here which I have never used before but will do now! I find I rush much less and snatch less at last minute birds after a quick reload that should probably just be left.
I most certainly remember that pair of Harkom’s
The first gun I ever shot was a Ward damascus barrelled hammer gun. It lived in the living room cupboard at my grandfather’s house. If a pheasant was seen picking through the barley stubble in the field next the house, he, my dad or uncle would get the gun and two Eley’s and pop out the back door to get dinner. When it was eventually passed to me in the mid 80’s it was in a state, split fore end, off the face but useable (just) and one day the top lever spring broke. Not having the internet or any other way of finding out how to even see how much it would cost to get refurbished, it was scrapped. Wish I still had it, even just for the memories.
I shoot a 1880s J B Warrilow Chippenham underleaver hammer damascus 12guage it is by far the best gun I own. Brilliant video thanks
3:56 Simon is Wahlberg teaching our young buck Jonny here how to shoot :D P.S. the music is sublime, getting the goosebumps.
Wonderful video. Fellow American gun enthusiasts, if you aren't familiar with Holt's gun auctions, treat yourself to a look at the upcoming auctions on their website. Absolutely fantastic, every auction.
Fantastic video as alway !!
I was fortunate enough to shoot 115-year-old side-by-side today.
That just been restored.
By far the sexiest and nicest guy I’ve ever shot !
I’m Susie going to think about getting a side-by-side now 👍
Brilliant more side by side videos please
Excellent! Thank you for sharing. I’m gonna give the CZ Sharptail Target 12ga a shot. No pun intended. Great video!
I'm glad someone at last has pointed out that not all of Norfolk is flat.....😉
I have a 1944 Belgian sxs with a matched 2-barrel set. 1/2 choke short and full choke long.
One of the best guys
Beautiful firearms I am a big fan of SxS shotguns rifles drillings and capeguns.
wow! the best I´ff seen yet
Fascinating video, need me a Grant!
I wonder if they ever "Clanged" barrels when double gunning. When done well it looks like poetry in motion:)
No - we were very careful not to!
Regarding loaders for single guns I recall watching this done on a program and the loader would nudge the gun slightly forward to indicate he has finished loading so the shooter wouldn't have look down.
I have a dubule barrel shotgun 12 bore in 12 Iv been clay shooting in Llandegla
Do they ever throw them a bit more horizontally rather than straight up in the air in UK?
I'd like your honest opinion on the savage/Stevens 555e. Looking at getting it for my first o/u
I shoot a similar hammer gun. Non ejector, 32" damascus barrels. ONE thing for Mr Loader, don't remove the carts like that! Wear a leather glove, and just flick them out - 2 at a time. I actually find it easier and quicker than most ejecting SxS! In fact I hate to say it, but in this day and age were we pick our carts from the field (and rightfully so), having a neat pile at your feet is a LOT nicer than having to scout around your peg 10ft out for stray empties -)
Also, Jonny, you are *pocking* -- remember, SxS are light, you NEED to manufacture the gunspeed, that requires you turning on your hips, not standing like a peg and poking at stuff :-) :-)
Last point: fix your audio. A lot of it sounds like it's underwater. The video is great -- really super job-, but the audio is really poor, I think.
Those guns would originally been used with black powder, and that makes a gun MUCH hotter than smokeless does. I shoot BP quite a lot with an old sidelock Hollis, and believe me after 6 or 8 rounds rapid the barrels will burn your hands.....that takes a lot longer with 'fairy dust'...
What’s the name of the “loader” you were wearing there? Looks great!
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So better get my self another gun cabinet 😂
Whats the name of the shell holder you were using ?
I’m still trying to figure out what the loader was I find it fascinating how do you spell it and what is it
What make are the hammer pair?
any idea where I can find a similar ganache like the one in the video?
Hi. That barrel camera mount. Do you think something like that could be used to mount a Red-Dot sight on a Side-by-Side double barrel shotgun. The sight would have to be positioned above the barrels and most likely as close to the breech as possible, probably just in front of the forend so balance wouldn't be affects as much as if it were place closer towards the muzzles. I know its certainly a non-traditional idea. Interested to know your thoughts?
A slight modification to the Mount and it is certainly a possibility
Finding a hammer gun made before 1900 that DOES NOT use black powder and that has 2 3/4" chambers is very difficult. Were these 2 1/2"? Im looking through Holts for just one gun like this. Thank you Jon
These were 2 1/2” indeed.
There's nothing like shooting a traditional English side by side
Loved the Shotkam footage, but what play back speed did you use?
50%
@@tgsoutdoors I have mine set on 2/3 usually. Might try it next time I’m at Stokbridge.
The jackets are nice, where can one buy them?
Who made Simon's hammerless double?
SxS are the epitome of shotgun hierarchy
Perfect from lraq
Wspaniała broń.pozdrawiam z Polski.
Is there a link to the video about obscure openings that is mentioned?
In the members videos named ‘top levers are boring’
And now I know what the join button does 😂
intresting how you mouted a shotkam on a side by side
Odd question, perhaps, but did they use any type of hearing protection back when those guns were made? Seems like you’d have a headache from that many shots in a short period, besides the hearing damage.
Often just cotton wool or piece of shaped/moulded beeswax in each ear and a couple aspirin afterwards if you suffered gun headache.
@@gazpal thanks! Sounds like what we used as earplugs when I was a child. Figured shooters had to use something, too
I'll stay with my Fox!
What are you shooting at?
Well with a name like Simon Reinhold its no suprise he is into shooting. All the other Reinholds I know are too......
I'm always fascinated by how the Victorian British were obsessed with increasing rate of fire for wing shooting and developed all sorts of things to facilitate that: double gunning, ejectors, snap actions, self cocking guns, etc, yet when the Americans came along with the repeater (pump or self-loader) they just outright rejected the concept. For the life of me I can't understand why?
A case of Not Invented Here, perhaps?
Sheer British snobbery 😆 The repeater is a keeper's or a ne'er-do-well's tool, not that of a Gentleman. As discussed in the video, unless you were a farmer or a poacher, game shooting became accessible to the middle-classes from the Gentry and so their style was copied.
Johnny himself has clarified this point to a certain degree.
Using a lever, pump/slide, or semi-auto shotgun is considered "non-sporting".
Unlike over here in North America (or perhaps mainland Europe), the hunter in the UK was "hunting" purely for one of two purposes. Either the joy killing brought them, or as an event followed by a feast using the game caught.
Over here hunting (in the actual sense of the term) was for survival, thus it was natural for the North American resident to jump on any potential advantage to make hunting, and thus feeding their families, easier.
As for repeating arms being considered "non-sporting" today (at least in terms of shotgun hunting) there is some validity to that statement.
We now live in an era with which the institution of the supermarket exists. Not to mention dollar stores and even the rural (sometimes very rural) corner/convenience store. Farming has never been easier or produce more plentiful in North America.
Therefore for at least 50% of the hunting community (be they in North America or internationally) the advantages that repeaters give an individual are not really necessary. Granted there are exceptions, especially in remote indigenous communities or the working poor.
A Shotkam on a SxS? Horrid!
Cheeky cheek? 😂 i thought the shooting on the fell was because of a faulty refridgiator
Thank God i was born in the usa 🇺🇸 and dont have to were tweed or strange hats to kill a bird and my rem 1100 holds 5 ! Whoooo! In rick flair voice ! 😂 just kidding men great vid! Love too see how the motherland does it! English guns are nice but very pricey .
I don't care what gun I just want one. A shotgun side by side would be my dream and I got a question if I get a shotty license for clay pigeon shooting am I allowed to buy buckshot and slugs
You cannot buy slugs on a shotgun licence
@@tgsoutdoors the laws stupid once people realise if you outlaw guns only outlaws will have guns a change will happen
My great great great ect ect was apprenticed to Joseph Manton he went to the American , the family name is still connected to the gun trade over there in the to this day
It's as if 3 gun was a thing long before it's time and it was a gentleman's game. I watch a good bit of content from the 2 gun community and I guarantee they would allow this at a shotgun match simply for the education it provides. The correlation is weirdly obvious.
The Happy Few...
Why did both of you load behind the shooter instead of down and to the right of the shooter? It appears a bit unsafe. The loader nearly sweeps the shooter with the muzzle of the shotgun as you hand off the freshly loaded gun.
Does anyone know if Jonny has foreskin?