I feel like hungrybox loves peanut because hungrybox knows what it's like to be an underdog and get put in awful matchups. Where the odds are stacked against you, and you play the character anyway because it's fun.
@@littlemacisunderrated412 No, Mac is still a really bad character. He's not so bad that he auto loses any matchup, but he's still bad. It clearly takes alot more effort to have the same payoff.
@@littlemacisunderrated412 What are you referring to? He doesn't what? Peanut himself has said that Mac is garbage and to not consider his gameplay as a standard for what Mac is capable of.
Top tier?! Peanut was revving the Mac all the way to redline the entire set and couldn’t cross the finish line with that underpowered engine. Kazuya was cruising on autopilot, chilling and sipping some tea. Little Mac is trash, Peanut is an incredible player tho.
@@munnymoore9518 You have to understand, some people are blind and have to watch it in braille, and such spoilers don't exist in that version due to mistranslations.
@@OmegaGlops dark wizzy also hadnt played in an offline tournament for like 2 years and looked terrible but yea that was I believe the only set atom won so yeah little mac would have been painful to watch
@@OmegaGlops atomsk is a professional veteran and was one of the best ddds in brawl, peanut is an ultimate rookie who has no actual results besides weeklys and wizzy played like shit
Seeing intense stuff like this makes me wonder why people still don't want to acknowledge Smash as a fighting game. That Kazuya vs Little Mac match is absolutely hype-inducing.
As someone who doesn't know how tournaments work, Everytime they get up after a round and Riddles picks up that paper, I think he's checking the script
@@CaptainDCap Although, their inputs and techniques are almost completely different... No ordinary Little Mac main can easily play Kazuya... unless they just coincidentally can play Kazuya
@@lazinator8285 That's not how smash works, lmao. If he played Sonic would he be better because sonic is faster? It's all about practice. If he decided to practice and get good with Kazuya, he would. It's all about practice.
Kazuya's disadvantage isn't even bottom 20 out of hand. He can recover from literally anywhere and his recovery is almost completely uncontestable. He struggles being juggled, sure, but so does Lucina, so that's hardly an argument for 'the worst disadvantage in the game.' Let me just quickly, without even thinking about it, name 20 characters with inarguable worse disadvantage states: Bowser, Ganon, Mac, ICs, Doc, DK, Incineroar, DDD, King K Rool, Plant, Ridley, Kirby, Lucario, R.O.B., Robin, Ken, Ryu, Simon, Richter, Isabelle, Byleth, Min Min, Mii Gunner. (Honorable mentions to Charizard and Pyra, who have 100% worse disadvantage states than Kazuya, but get to push a button to become characters with better disadvantage states than him.) ...That's more than 20. And that's without considering the characters that are at or near his level of disadvantage, who MAY realistically have worse disadvantage states than him. Conversely, his advantage state is better than that of almost all of the characters listed here. Arguing against Kazuya being broken just shows you're a fool. The only thing keeping him from being the literal best character in the game is his below average matchups against the top 5.
@@RigWim Culmination of many factors. Some of the usual suspects, ie big bodied, super heavyweight with no vertical hit boxes on his aerials. But what makes Kazuya's uniquely bad is his frame data on his jumps. He has over double the frames on his jumps than everyone else. That might not sound like much but its catastrophic for his kit.
I'd like a word with whoever built Joker's kit because damn, Riddles got robbed. That said, Riddles v Peanut was an unbelievable set. So tense, so cool.
this is the most underdog matchup i've ever seen, kazuya is an all powerful being, with the powers of a devil, then you have a normal human boxer who secretly has super strength, its perfect. Not only is it probably impossible for mac in canon, but its a hard match up for mac in general, kazuya is basically a better little mac in every way, even with the same type of playstyle. Even if Peanut lost, he had some balls to go against the best kazuya in the world
Hbox, can you make a video trying to explain the psychology of people doing reverse 3 stocks and why they can't keep that effort/mentality from game start?
I run Mac at my locals and I've been taking consistent second places, along with resetting the bracket in grands. Haven't gotten the #1 spot yet but getting there. Some clips on my page of my Little Mac.
It seems riddles has a lot of trouble with zoners….prolly just cuz it’s literally kazuyas worst nightmare….but he doesn’t play well against samus, joker, and snake
Lets make a character that hits like a truck, has good recovery, has several attacks that stun you into a 0-death combo, has massive super armor or intangibility on a lot of his attacks and has a reflect.
YES!? edit: i have made a slight change in my judgment. Peanut is the fan favourite, and i respect his choice for mac. However, due to Mac’s weakness being exposed and strengths, (aka power on ground and super armour smashes), kazuya just beats him
We should have a tournament called The World's Best Tournament. We take every player that is best with a specific character and put them in a tournament.
Defining characteristics of a shoto are: good footsies/neutral, fireball, invincible reversal/dp/shoryuken, and a tatsu. Little Mac has maybe 2 of those (neutral and reversal). Luigi is more of a shoto than little Mac.
@@seththeace6217 It comes from Shotokan Karate, and the term has been so fucking fucked that is is being applied to goddamn LUIGI?!.... It is so much more than 3 moves. It is pretty ignorant to apply to term so loosely. Little Mac is a fucking boxer, which is markedly different from Shotokan...The comparison is asinine.
@@speokeosai I forgot Justin Wong is the Emperor of FGC and what he says is law. I am sure that was in no way sarcastic or playful and he actually thinks Mario practices Shotokan Karate. With the way it is now, anyone could argue as a "shoto" now because the term no longer has meaning. Kind of like how the word "literally" also no longer means that. Boy I love english... Not at all a chore.
little Mac vs Kazuya looks like an anime shonen fight with underdog protag vs evil villain.
oh god that's literally what it is-
Kazuya has become the hayashi
@@adumwhourtnee585 that happened back in tekken 1 lol
actually a baki fight
In Tekken it will be more like Steve vs Kazuya.
I think it was this tournament where riddles beat peanut, riddles got upset by a bayonetta but peanuty beat the bayo
Rock Paper Scissors?
It was the comeback right? It was like right after this tho
I think the bayo was Dialga
3:39 "How did he know??"
He didn't. Kazuya has aimbot.
Truw
I feel like hungrybox loves peanut because hungrybox knows what it's like to be an underdog and get put in awful matchups. Where the odds are stacked against you, and you play the character anyway because it's fun.
I can’t help but feel some sort of way when watching Kazuya do the things he does
feel molested?
@@boshman11 yes
Hype
gay thoughts?
@@danielrosa9502angry thoughts
God, that match was so close. Peanut is proof that you can pretty much win with any character if you put your mind to it.
Or maybe he’s proof that Mac isn’t as bad as people say he is.
with patching? yeah now its possible for formerly bad characters to be good and vice versa
@@littlemacisunderrated412 No, Mac is still a really bad character. He's not so bad that he auto loses any matchup, but he's still bad. It clearly takes alot more effort to have the same payoff.
@@esra3784 as someone who plays the character, no he doesn’t. But that’s a personal opinion I guess
@@littlemacisunderrated412 What are you referring to? He doesn't what? Peanut himself has said that Mac is garbage and to not consider his gameplay as a standard for what Mac is capable of.
Little Mac legit looks like a top tier against Kazuya XD
Fr
wdym ?
He still looks like dogshit garbage to me
Top tier?! Peanut was revving the Mac all the way to redline the entire set and couldn’t cross the finish line with that underpowered engine. Kazuya was cruising on autopilot, chilling and sipping some tea. Little Mac is trash, Peanut is an incredible player tho.
@@Enidx10 True, Peanut was working Mac to his full potential, but Riddles just had to up smash out of EWGF
Less Mac having a good matchup and more peanut just being a god at the game
Kazuya won?
In other news, the Hungrybox is hungry
Nice spoiler
@@Green____T
You can tell the outcome from both the intro and the thumbnail
The box do be hungry
Nah bro let the suspense build
@@munnymoore9518 You have to understand, some people are blind and have to watch it in braille, and such spoilers don't exist in that version due to mistranslations.
/s
"That was me! That was all me, chat"
*Obama awarding Obama*
Lol! You don't know any other recent President of the United States who was a liiiiiiiiiiitle egotistical?
@@AlexDuWaldt
it's a meme format
I pray that meme never dies
@@miltongam5870 Life is a meme format.
I love how much of a peanut fan hbox is now
LET’S GO PEANUT!
Oof
@@vegitoblue4601 I figured, but still gotta root for the homie
@@trailertrash2147 respect
I legit love the idea of a little mac, kazuya, ken, etc tourney. They make smash technical and fun for me, especially in a versus!
Same! I wish there were more fgc characters in Smash. Their matches against eachother are always so hyped.
Never thought i'd find myself rooting for Mac.
When he's up against literal "DLC privilege evil Mac" i can't help myself.
Camping in you face is probably the most accurate way I have seen someone describe Fox's play-style.
This set only makes me wish Peanut had gotten to play at Summit. It would have been the best set of the whole event for sure.
0-3s multiple times would end peanuts career and make him a joke and make summit a joke lmao
@@lukeblaker8009 A Dedede main beat Dark Wizzy at Summit. Anything is possible!
@@OmegaGlops dark wizzy also hadnt played in an offline tournament for like 2 years and looked terrible but yea that was I believe the only set atom won so yeah little mac would have been painful to watch
@@OmegaGlops atomsk is a professional veteran and was one of the best ddds in brawl, peanut is an ultimate rookie who has no actual results besides weeklys and wizzy played like shit
@@lukeblaker8009 The only joke here is you.
Seeing intense stuff like this makes me wonder why people still don't want to acknowledge Smash as a fighting game. That Kazuya vs Little Mac match is absolutely hype-inducing.
Excuse me? I was told Little Z was the best Kazuya? I’ve been lied to…
That's not even his best character
@@davidnichol4735 They're all his best character!
Sadly Kazuya isn't in his top 7 best
@@ragnazero1971 maybe its number 1
@@qizoudk4602 oh shiii u right
As someone who doesn't know how tournaments work, Everytime they get up after a round and Riddles picks up that paper, I think he's checking the script
U also don't know who is who cause peanut was picking the paper all time
Kazuya is just like Steve, OP if you know how to play them.
The only difference is that Steve has no other characters like him, while Kazuya is LITERALLY better Little Mac. It's sad.
@@CaptainDCap Although, their inputs and techniques are almost completely different... No ordinary Little Mac main can easily play Kazuya... unless they just coincidentally can play Kazuya
sounds like OP with extra steps
@@CaptainDCap Kazuya is nothing like Mac? Steve has more in common with Kaz than Kaz does with Mac.
@@Z3ZP really
Imagine Peanut dropping Mac for Kazuya
He would suck cause kazuya is way slower than mac.
But it would be hype if he was good.
@@lazinator8285 That's not how smash works, lmao. If he played Sonic would he be better because sonic is faster? It's all about practice. If he decided to practice and get good with Kazuya, he would. It's all about practice.
@@lazinator8285 ???
@@lazinator8285 what is that "logic"
5:44 my favorite part from this video
Peanut is like my idle. I want to learn how to be the best little Mac I can be and I watch peanut so much to learn the things I can do.
I believe in you
I believe in you
Hbox : SWING SWING!
Little Mac : getting juggled
Anyone else gonna bring up him screaming “CAREFUL SPONGEBOB” that had me dying 🤣🤣🤣
5:43 "CAREFUL SPONGEBOB"
Watching Kazuya players is like watching someone commit multiple crimes
Kazuya has arguably the worst disadvantage state in the whole game and people are still like "hE's BroKeN"
He does? I didn’t know about this, what’s his weakness? It’d be handy to know, I’m glad this was brought up
Kazuya's disadvantage isn't even bottom 20 out of hand. He can recover from literally anywhere and his recovery is almost completely uncontestable. He struggles being juggled, sure, but so does Lucina, so that's hardly an argument for 'the worst disadvantage in the game.'
Let me just quickly, without even thinking about it, name 20 characters with inarguable worse disadvantage states:
Bowser, Ganon, Mac, ICs, Doc, DK, Incineroar, DDD, King K Rool, Plant, Ridley, Kirby, Lucario, R.O.B., Robin, Ken, Ryu, Simon, Richter, Isabelle, Byleth, Min Min, Mii Gunner. (Honorable mentions to Charizard and Pyra, who have 100% worse disadvantage states than Kazuya, but get to push a button to become characters with better disadvantage states than him.)
...That's more than 20.
And that's without considering the characters that are at or near his level of disadvantage, who MAY realistically have worse disadvantage states than him. Conversely, his advantage state is better than that of almost all of the characters listed here.
Arguing against Kazuya being broken just shows you're a fool. The only thing keeping him from being the literal best character in the game is his below average matchups against the top 5.
@@CaptainDCap "Kazuya has the worst disadvantage in the game" -Riddles, top 50 player in the world, best Kazuya. But what does he know?
@@RigWim Culmination of many factors. Some of the usual suspects, ie big bodied, super heavyweight with no vertical hit boxes on his aerials. But what makes Kazuya's uniquely bad is his frame data on his jumps. He has over double the frames on his jumps than everyone else. That might not sound like much but its catastrophic for his kit.
@@mrsunshine8347 ill keep that in mind, i struggle fighting kazuyas, thank you
Yessir give my boy Little Mac all the love. Favorite character in this game by far.
I'd like a word with whoever built Joker's kit because damn, Riddles got robbed.
That said, Riddles v Peanut was an unbelievable set. So tense, so cool.
When the comic relief character goes up against the antagonist
this is the most underdog matchup i've ever seen, kazuya is an all powerful being, with the powers of a devil, then you have a normal human boxer who secretly has super strength, its perfect. Not only is it probably impossible for mac in canon, but its a hard match up for mac in general, kazuya is basically a better little mac in every way, even with the same type of playstyle. Even if Peanut lost, he had some balls to go against the best kazuya in the world
I will watch every match between Peanut's Little Mac and Riddles' Kazuya.
3:48
What was Sakurai thinking when he made this character 😅
He tried to kill the game that what happened.
Kazuya vs Steve Fox is a great matchup to watch in Tekken
Peanut is the only little Mac that can actually challenge a fighter pack two character
When I watch a little mac vs kazuya match, I feel like I'm watching Baki
Hbox, can you make a video trying to explain the psychology of people doing reverse 3 stocks and why they can't keep that effort/mentality from game start?
Sometimes you just need more data on your opponent
One simple word
MOMENTUM
I think a big factor is that the other person relaxes
I run Mac at my locals and I've been taking consistent second places, along with resetting the bracket in grands. Haven't gotten the #1 spot yet but getting there. Some clips on my page of my Little Mac.
yo that joker was clean
no offense to the EXTREMELY good riddles, but kazuya kinda is too busted for my comfort.
Peanut is the main character of the smash community
sharps joker was clean goddamn
3:16 That little jab cracks me the fuck up
Peanut honoring the low-tiers is truly remarkable!
Anyone else immediately think of poppt1 when tha t outro played?
That ko punch 5 minutes in was one of the best reads I've seen all year
Always gonna root for you, Peanut!
Man I love peanut, not only becouse he mains Little Mac, but also becouse how Epic he looks when he wins
It seems riddles has a lot of trouble with zoners….prolly just cuz it’s literally kazuyas worst nightmare….but he doesn’t play well against samus, joker, and snake
Poppt 1 ending
I also agree that Kazuya's up b is too strong. Like... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too strong. It needs to be like HALF the knockback it has.
That's like the only kill move that shouldn't be as strong as it is.
If you have the heart for it then Little Mac can be top tier.
No. No he cannot
@@itsyaboiskinnyd4051 I bet your mom stopped loving you after your dad started showing you more attention than her.
@@saltidog86 bet that took you every minute of the past 3 days to come up with
@@itsyaboiskinnyd4051 I see you care enough to check back daily.
@@saltidog86 I get notifications it's not that complicated
I mean I'd argue that Bad Things grand finals was even more intense.
The ENTIRE time Im chanting 🥜
home boy yelled CAREFUL SPONGEBOB when mac hit the KO
Under that mask peanut is a chad
Casually uses poppt1s outro music
Every time he censors with jigglypuff I just start dying
Am I wrong for thinking Peanut as the main character of SSBU
Lets make a character that hits like a truck, has good recovery, has several attacks that stun you into a 0-death combo, has massive super armor or intangibility on a lot of his attacks and has a reflect.
1:32 SIUUU
My counterpoint to the most intense set this year is MKLeo vs Sparg0 at summit
chad mac vs sissy boy squat
With the poppt1 music to finish it.😆
Mj vs zd aka the two letter battle
Peanut is insane.
Every since I subbed to HBox I’ve started saying “no shot” a lot
when he said the forbidden phrase....i felt that.
Why did he turn into Patrick at 5:43 he said yay for SpongeBob🤣💀
there are no dreams in smash
Damn Peanut got messed up in that set by riddles
*gimmicked by the electric upper cut
@@NileMcKenna acting like he didn't steal a game with ko
More optimal Kazuya is scary.
ah yes, the classic kazuya vs steve fox matchup
Kazuya command grab is a comeback mechanic but Arsene isn’t? Lollll
Damn good games
It’s cute how he replaces his curse words with puff.
they need to buff Luigi's up-b so badly
YES THANKS HBOX FOR THIS NEW UPLOAD
Would be even matchup if kazuya didn’t have neutral B
Wow I just watched the video. Very cool.
As soon as I heard the end music, I thought, "Is Hungrybox pulling a Poppt1?" Because Poppt uses the same music in outros.
The Poppt1 outro lol
Was anyone actually wanting riddles to win?
Apparently yeah. Couple of people in chat were saying they were.
Yeah me lmao I like kazyua and riddles but both players are cracked i wouldn't have minded if peanut won
I mean as cool as riddles is peanut is at such a huge disadvantage
YES!?
edit: i have made a slight change in my judgment. Peanut is the fan favourite, and i respect his choice for mac. However, due to Mac’s weakness being exposed and strengths, (aka power on ground and super armour smashes), kazuya just beats him
I root for Riddles almost always, but not vs Peanut. Gotta root for the boy Peanut
Riddles - player to watch!
If kazuya didn’t have that many electric moves little Mac would’ve won
Idk why he keeps telling him to swing when if he misses he can get heavily punished. Then when he doesn’t he says “yeah that’s why you gotta swing”
CAAAAREFUL SPUNCHBAAAWB
Hbox getting mad at someone using the term Hbox DI will always be hilarious.
The poppt1 outro
I know the outro song is used alot but it reminded me of poppt1 because he always uses it
Jokers back air is broken like it litterally got him 2 stocks without actually touching riddles, what's the hitbox?😂
Honestly most hype 💩 to have riddles vs peanut
Yo I can't believe peanut got destroyed in the intro, kazuya is really broken
Peanut best Mac? Nah that goes to GTAD
They should run this back after the Mac buffs
We should have a tournament called The World's Best Tournament. We take every player that is best with a specific character and put them in a tournament.
Half the bracket will be Little Z
@@davidnichol4735 all of it you mean
He paid for those moves. He needs every mechanic in the game lmao
we paid for the whole game we need those too
1:30 someone in chat says, "Mac is a shoto, change my mind."
🅱️ruh
Absolutely wrong.
Defining characteristics of a shoto are: good footsies/neutral, fireball, invincible reversal/dp/shoryuken, and a tatsu. Little Mac has maybe 2 of those (neutral and reversal). Luigi is more of a shoto than little Mac.
@@seththeace6217 It comes from Shotokan Karate, and the term has been so fucking fucked that is is being applied to goddamn LUIGI?!.... It is so much more than 3 moves. It is pretty ignorant to apply to term so loosely. Little Mac is a fucking boxer, which is markedly different from Shotokan...The comparison is asinine.
@@mylarr_7566 chill bro it’s not that serious
@@mylarr_7566 Considering that Justin Wong has referred to Mario as a shoto I'm fairly certain luigi could be argued to be one as well.
@@speokeosai I forgot Justin Wong is the Emperor of FGC and what he says is law. I am sure that was in no way sarcastic or playful and he actually thinks Mario practices Shotokan Karate.
With the way it is now, anyone could argue as a "shoto" now because the term no longer has meaning. Kind of like how the word "literally" also no longer means that. Boy I love english... Not at all a chore.
Let alone the thumbnail made me hype, I immediately went to the kitchen grab snacks and make popcorn, IM READY BITCH!!!!
Every kazuya main is only at lvl 7 cpu status rn