CAN I DEFEAT THE LEVEL 9 CPU KAZUYA IN SMASH ULTIMATE?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- You've all seen the challenge! WaDi couldn't do it. BUT HOW ABOUT HUNGRYBOX!? I'm going Jigglypuff in this Best of 5 against THE Level 9 CPU Kazuya that everyone is talking about. The same one that recently won a Super Smash Bros. Ultimate tournament set. And if I lose, giveaway time!
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I heard this joke from somewhere else but, some dude said:
"I think the CPU finally found it's main."
its
@@undeniablySomeGuy *Kazuya!*
This is the best way to put it lol
Yes he did
who knew the cpu was a big tekken fan?
Kazuya CPU is really making roll out seem like a great move.
The amount of kazuyas I've killed with roll out is insane
Thats the effect of top players
also has a back throw kill fetish problem despite up throw existing
I've seen hbox hit dedede players with it which is just unacceptable when jet hammer and succ exist
Roll out is a good move...
For pissing people off
hbox: "i'm losing to a line of computer code"
chess and go players: "first time?"
stockfish chuckles in the darkness
@@wrc2933 Alphazero and Leela are both pointing guns at Stockfish with their infrared glasses.
That bit at 8:44 was terrifying. Just the AI not going down for a second and just observing/calculating things seconds before making their move and absolutely destroying is amazing.
The crazy part is this is after they nerfed the AI, I remember at launch everyone was complaining the AI were to tough so they made them worse, I remember challenging Greninja 4 times to unlock him I swear he was playing at lvl 11 or 12.
@@bocaj71491 I don't think they actually nerfed the AI itself, they just lowered the level of the Challenger Approaching fights.
@@detrilogue3174 god, imagine the difficulty of kazuya if he had the challenger approaching fight.
he was timing the invincibility on the respawn. He wanted to approach when HB's invincibility was over.
Sakurai watching Hbox beat Kazuya:
“We must make him stronger”
~He says this in a dimmed lit circular room where he is at the highest seat surrounded by his CEOs, fingers steepled on his desk. That phrase echoes through the chamber...
This comment is funnier if you've seen UR2SLOW's Designing Kazuya video.
“Trust me, this is my *vision*”
"So just to balance him out..."
Later
Sakurai: This Is Fine.
In WaDi's defense, although he got bodied, 0 to death in 12 seconds in the first stock, he went on to *win* that game.
True
And yet hbox still made fun of him
@@marcostheblinkedscout1309 wat
@@onepieceofbbq6357 he made fun of wadi in the video that he got 0 to deathed. It was a joke probably but he still jokingly made fun of him.
@@marcostheblinkedscout1309 0
12:35 The moment Kazuya decided to have mercy on HBox and let him win the set
Yeah, Kazuya would have won if he followed up with up-b like he usually does. He clearly made the conscious choice to let HBox live, and rub it in that HBox's reputation as a pro smash player was in Kazuya's hands.
he couldve totally upsmashed him
He could’ve probably even don twin pistons and win
Your pfp is art
@@avocado9466 gruby
This Video went from fun and games to “I’m losing to a bunch of ones and zeros. I’m human damn it I can win.”
Ones and zeroes
Lights?
I’m mistyped damn my bad guys lmao
By the end, Hbox was getting SO tilted....
Mann vs Machine
the fact that kazuya could have ended it right there but showed mercy is scary 12:34
Holy shit you’re right, the AI was like “I’ll let this go to game 5…this is too sad”
Just AI things
Hbox would've 100% lost there. Weird choice from the CPU
yeah he could of up smashed off of that EWGF
CPU: my goals are beyond your understanding
LMFAO SOMEONE IN CHAT SAID “Ruh roh.” After he lost game 2 I’m dyin his reaction to second stock was s-tier
Was it you
@@weakw1ll true
One of the requirements to get sponsored will gonna be "being able to consistently defeat a lvl 9 Kazuya CPU"
Well in fact that's easy if you spam the few moves the AI never dodges.
With an CPU, baits and mixups are useless. Only spam.
@@weak7897 The AI in this game will react with airdodge very consistently in this game, and rarely ever mix up their landings in disadvantage. Just waiting and punishing their landing can get you a win with any character, no spam even needed.
Lol probably. Then the amiibo comes out..
That'd be fine, easiest sponsorship ever 😎
I can k rool makes it easy xD
Hbox: Getting clapped by a CPU
The background music: *vibin*
What is the song?
@@DrKnockOut1115 I don’t know which one you mean but the one on the 3rd game is Yodeling In Meadow Hill.
@@DrKnockOut1115 Yodeling
@@Biggermeatyhooks what’s the song on the 4th game?
@@durandelsg2895 since I don’t play tekken and haven’t listened to much tekken music, sorry if I’m wrong but I think it’s landscape under the ghost kaminano.
One thing about this AI when I faced him is that he is REALLY good at parrying. He parried like 80% of my moves one match
While I was playing as Falco kazuya electric wind fist through my side B putting Falco on his other side thus hiting me with his command grab it was the most sickest thing I ever seen!
@@darius8715 jm
What I hate about AI in Smash is that they parry and tech 90% of the times...
Yeah noticed that as well
He parried ever single hit box on my Duck Hunts frisbee in rapid secession. I paused it after that out of pure shock. No human can time each hit by a single frisbee like that let alone multiple times.
Plot twist: Lvl 9 Kazuya is actually Sakurai playing while developing the game
Not enough laser spam.
It was Knee movelists. Remember that.
i doubt Sakurai can do any electric into footstool combos
**Min Min counterpicks with malicious intent**
@@TheRiquelmeONE That's what Sakurai wants you to believe, so you'll underestimate him
Just imagine when a amiibo comes out for him. Level 50 is going to be insane
If I have one, his name will be saitama cause once he hits you..."Death"
Wish I was a youtuber rn. Lv9 cpu Kazuya is such easy content for everyone.
no reason you can't be one one day
You should start
Unless you're a ROB main, cuz camping out Kazuya is really easy
Wadi wins so easily with rob so he stay with the mewtwo. Same goes with hbox
ACTUALLY LMAO HOW MANY VIDEOS AM I GONNA SEE OF THIS HOLY SHIT
Cpus really seems to struggle with moves that have movement like alolan whip, falcon kick and somehow even rollout
I think Kazuya in general really struggles against characters with good aerials/mobility. Oddly enough, I actually think Incineroar is a winning matchup against him, I say as an Incin main
@@xd-bt3xs I’m aware haha, I was saying that including CPUs, this specific character struggles against the things OP mentioned
While this comment is off topic, I concur. I’m pretty sure Jigglypuff is a hard counter to Kazuya
@@DatDude0925oh he 1000% is
My comment was almost prophetic lol
I'm really interested in the fact that people didn't know that Lv9 CPUs are usually frame 1 on moves so that's why they always do crazy combos that a normal person couldn't.
they also almost always perfectly airdodge if you try to hit them in the air
Yeah it's annoying 😑. But it makes it predictable so you can punish wasted air dodges with fast aerials.
Hbox after winning first round:
“C’mon Wadi, that wasn’t so hard.”
Level 9 Kazuya CPU:
“And I took that personally…”
Nerfing Kazuya’s Lvl 9 CPU is something I can’t imagine Sakurai would do.
i hope they dont nerf this i really love the challenge
I'll be sad if he does, it's super fun to fight it
He should absolutely do it by nerfing the character as a whole.
Pretty sure sakurai nerfed every level 9 cpu in one of the earlier patches
@@CloutmasterPhluphyy he nerfed the cpus for unlocking the character not the level 9 cpus
the level 9 cpu kazuya is on electric wind god crack
LMAO
If I get a Kazuya Amiibo, that’s what I’m naming him.
@@deadheat1635 I think the name is a bit long, can you even write it down on an Amiibo?
@@starshockraiko7402 I’d probably just name it EWGC.
@@deadheat1635 That makes sense, feels like the main thing you should teach it is the very mechanic that's based on his name, and after a few tries he'd probably spam it
Im just impressed how the AI has improved over the course of Smash Bros games
I consistently beat two level 9s on a team on melee on final destination or battlefield. On Ultimate, I'm lucky if I can kill both of them once. The AI is so much better now.
@@kevind6306 The AI isn't that much better
@@kevind6306 Melee AI literally SD everytime I fight them on BF, Mario AI always SD when it tries to edgeguard with F-air, bc even when it nails the hit it dies bc it doesn’t know how to recover later, and Captain Falcon is not much better, half of the time tries to go for side-b and when it misses close to the ledge it dies bc it puts him on free fall, and it does that a lot, also Luigi it’s not even programmed to do up-b so once he’s low enough it’s literally unable to recover, AI in Melee is so unfinished is kinda sad to watch sometimes
I will never get bored of CPU lvl 9 Kazuya 😂
Me neither xD
Now imagine if he DIDN'T just completely fail at avoiding Rollout
12:33 Kazuya said "I give you one more chance"
Bandai Namco really wanted their character to have a good CPU, lol
I'm just starting the vid, Hungrybox better win on his first try if he's mocking WaDi like that.
Lol he also went with Mewtwo cuz he said rob would be too easy
He did win first try indeed
@@mechashadow He better, those were fighting words.
Hbox: You cant defeat me
Lvl 9 kazuya: I know, but he can
"kazuya amiibo appears"
I swear he is just Ganon on steroids
Ganon and ryu dna
Ganon, ryu, and mac
The best parts of falcon and ganon with a projectile to top it off.
She do be yodelin in the background doe
As a former Swiss resident, I approve
Why are you everywhere lmao
@@melonmercury1853 He's a fellow hungrybox content enjoyer.
that was a good song i wanna know the name
You know it's getting serious when you start to hear the GameCube controller
Hbox while watching sakurai’s move set overview: WTF 4 KILL THROWS
Hbox now: THERE IS NO WAY BACK THROW JUST KILLED JIGGLY PUFF AT 166%
"Im losing to a line of code..." the most human against Skynet line ever!!
For more context:
Wadi was in a best of 5 with the cpu and lost 2-3
Hbox almost lost numerous times during this set, it was very close
@@kalebthompson6068 that's because he sucks. He needs to play a real fighting game and get good.
@@leargamma4912 Nice trollbait.
@@leargamma4912 why watch the video then
"17 minutes of HBox trying to convince himself he is as good as WaDi"
He doesnt need convincing
17 minutes of him trying to think he is good at a party game
He already is
I love how He got serious there and talked him self up. Very cool
“Im losing to the game. Im losing to a line of code.”
Proceeded by
“I am the game, I am the code.”
I love it 😂😂
2:36 i feel like I could see Hungrybox change from 'oh this will be a fun gimmick' to 'oh damn I might actually lose'
This reminds me of OG smash ultimate when Challenger Approaching CPU’s were overly tough.
I live for the day I can see a pro player legit go down 2-1 to a CPU.
10:48 That really just brought him from 83% to 124%
This is a peek of what's to come for Kazuya mains in tournaments.
If he doesn't get nerfed... maybe the next DLC will be strong enough to beat Kazuya...
dude its way to quick to ask of nerfs he hasn't even been out that long
Seeing level 9 kazuya occasionally pop off just makes me more excited for what a amiibo kazuya could do
STOP
Me: breathes
Kazuya cpu: you free trail of existing has ended.
My favorite line: “I am the code.” Sounds like something Batman would say.
When you go hyper aggressive the PC can never adapt
Neither can humans, stupid. That is why 0 to deaths are cheating
Me who 3 stocks the Kazuya Lv.9 CPU
"Yo, anyone wanna sponsor me?" Lmao
Same af 😂
Bruh.... I was sold on the title WELL PLAYED!!! I would never... I struggle with lower level AI sadly!!! But BIG UPS to ya on that completed challenge for sure!!!
I died the second he lost that first stock. 😆
You could say that you…lost a stock?
Some guy said it best:
"The CPU has finally found its Main"
Getting bullied by the cpu has gotten me to a point where I question" why do I play smash just to suffer".....kazuya just stand there
He's like playing against a Bowser that's half the size but with faster frame data with the same damage/knockback, armor on his command grab, a longer range projectile, and still retaining quite a bit of weight LOL.
"I'm surprised he didn't get dropped by his team"
dam hbones doing my boi WaDi so dirty
Didn't he actually claim that he did get dropped? As a joke obviously, but I think that's what he said
if u go to 6:45 u can see me say luigi
OMFG YOUVE JUST MADE A GROUND BREAKING DISCOVERY
Advice: Play as defensively as possible. Only go in if you are ready to kill. The more you let Kazuya get to your face, the worse your situation will be.
That's exactly what I do with Incineroar and he hasn't beaten me since
@@Border_Whopper Incineroar?
His up B is like actually broken. Does insane damage, comes out quick, and you can DI out of punishes a lot of the time.
You know the AI is pretty hard to defeat when you pop off at defeating it xD
The fact an NPC can consistently take stocks off the pros is incredible to me.
Lv. 9 Kazuya only has combos and frame perfect inputs but other from that he is not that great
@RICKY HERNANDEZ Well, LVL 9 CPUs in general
@RICKY HERNANDEZ tbf that's basically because Ultimate's AI is good
@@J_Chuks
Input reading is a cheat thing, not a skill thing. -_-
Don't forget lv. 9 Kazuya also parries like a champ
I wish other cpu's were like this but have this be lv10 instead of lv9
Yeah literally, level 10 would be a Lot more tougher
Nice
Also you got clipped too. Lost 2 3stock matches in a row to a lv9...
Out of all of the videos you’ve made, I’ve never laughed so hard but feared for your life at the same time.
I think he deserved it
As someone who practices against friends by using level 9 cpus on his own time and has played thousands of rounds against them I have a few theories about the AI in this game from the patterns of gameplay that I noticed (I only say theories because I don’t have a solid way to prove this):
Theory 1) When the AI gets down to 1 stock left it REALLY tries harder and REALLY FEELS like a true level 9 (almost 10) cpu at that point as if everything is on the line like in a tournament and it must win! It’s the hardest stock to beat out of the others and each stock gets harder the more you take from the AI! One way of testing this is try to do a 3 or 5 stock battle and get the cpu down to 1 stock left then keep jumping to your death until both you and the cpu have 1 stock a piece and now the battle will really begin because the AI now calculates it really has a chance to win against you and that the W comes down to this stock! That’s why when I saw HungryBox’s gameplay I kept waiting to see what happens when the cpu had 1 stock left!
Theory 2) If you played against your friend and let’s say he was player 2 playing with controllers then you changed the second player to cpu level 9 with same character (or maybe even another character) the AI will implement similar play style skills of your friend with the crazy hard level 9 AI skill blended together and will play more like him. Each time you turn off your switch or quit the game back to switch home screen the AI slowly returns back to its regular fighting pattern.
Theory 3) The AI seems to kinda know what buttons you’re pressing on your controller before you land an attack on it. What I mean by this is if you run towards the AI it can kinda predict you’re holding the left stick right or left and that there’s a good chance you’ll follow up with pressing B or A for some kinda of running smash attack and even adapts its position before you come close to it. I’ve also noticed sometimes the AI could have used an UP+B for a ledge grab recover and it sometimes just gracefully falls to its death for no reason when edge guarding making me question “wtf?!? It could have lived lol” and I noticed each time I’m somewhat high in the air and held down on the left stick for a good amount of seconds it kinda predicts there’s a high chance you might do a down smash or get a 2 frame where it will trick it to kinda give up or wait as long as it can before it tries to recover using UP+B (This rarely happens). Also, if you keep spamming the same attacks like say a side smash multiple times to hit the AI it will catch the pattern and adapt its play style so it punishes you and forces you to adapt yourself to hit it another way, you’ll know this is happening because it will be hard to land a hit with the same attack multiple times!
4) Let’s say you set up 2 player smash and set both players to CPU Level 9 and have them play against each other, one CPU player is bound to be better at playing then another. After a few rounds see which player consistently wins while keeping the characters the same and then change the characters around from player 1 and 2 and the one cpu that kept winning will most likely be using a better AI gameplay skill method to have a higher chance at winning the match even when swapping characters!
Theory 5) Every time you play another set with the same CPU even after a win and same stage it’s not guaranteed you’ll win again because it sometimes feels like the AI plays even more aggressively on some sets and more easy going in other sets regardless of it set to Level 9.
Anyways, cool video and now I’m gonna try playing more level 9 Kazuya’s after watching this video!
It was satisfying seeing hungrybox trash talk WaDi, then immediately get destroyed.
Hbox seems to get too big of a head for his own good sometimes.
i feel like part of the stress is the pressure of saying i got beat by a cpu
Remeber, CPUs have frame perfect reaction, so if they miss a tech, its not skill issue, its *MERCY*
if he wouldve just up thrown instead of back throw you woulda lost for sure lol
It took me one shot to beat a level 9 Kazuya without items and stage settings, it was hard but I beat him with my goddess Palutena with no issues.
I really hoped to see Kazuya win, because in my opinion, seeing Kazuya making these Combos is much more hyped than a jigglypuff making combos.
Jigglypuff combos?
@@stereng dair loops.
Well yeah because Jigglypuff fucking sucks! XD
@@theryumancer9639 in ultimate she kinda dose, the nerfed her offensive oomf
She went from being a meta defining “nuke with bricks for legs” to being a niche character pick with negatives that slightly out-weight her strengths
the 6th god...KAZUYA
Fun fact, the higher your stock count above your player name in the select screen, the less mistakes and higher chance of the CPU input reading are.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who struggles against lvl9 Kazuya...makes me feel a little better about myself.
12:05 NO WAYYY THAT HIT LMFAOOOOOOOOOO
Hello
I’ve said this ever since I started watching Smash and even playing it casually but I seriously think that every smash comp should have AT LEAST 1 Level 9 Random CPU thrown in there just because. In science we call this a “control group” and I think nothing is better than imagining a world where an actual top player gets bodied by a random Level 9 CPU.
I also think that CPU should “represent” Sakurai and any win it gets if any, gets put under “Sakurai’s” stats.
12:34
"What does it tell you when an assassin misses his target? He's not really trying!"
8:23
Hbox: fighting for his life
The chat: Ayo this song🔥🔥🔥
This is really showing me that majority of people who play smash don’t even touch any other fighter.
yes yes youre very cool no one cares
@@doctorreed_ he's just so much better than us smash players dude
@@blackghostcat yeah man he plays the real fighting games
@@hollowneko9795 yeah smash has no fundamentals of any fighting games. It's basically Mario party but with other characters in it. No changes were implemented
If you play Kazuya you would be able to predict alot of his attacks. The bot uses minimal movement just maximizes spacing and is ironically too good with their timing or predictions
This was thoroughly entertaining.
What's the song that played in game 5? What a banger.
Some people in the chat were mentioning how the CPU was playing like a level 8.
Ok, so I watched like 4 minutes of the video and thought "is this really that hard?"
So I booted up my game, went with my main, chose a random omega stage and put the Kazuya CPU as a lvl 9, I put 4 stocks and an unlimited time limit
It took me 2 minutes and 6 seconds to beat him on my first try and I only died once out of 4 stocks, now I'm just confused, is Bowser a good matchup against Kazuya? Or do the pros just have bad luck against him?
Edit: on my second attempt, I chose small battlefield and kept everything else the same, he killed me 3/4 times this time
Edit 2: kept the stage as small battlefield and changed it to 3 stocks, he killed me 2/3 times
Edit 3: I've played 3 more matches against him, I lost 2 and won 1, all either 2/3 or 3/2, I'm starting to understand where people are saying it's hard, half of his combos are true, especially his damn footstool one, you literally can't escape them until they're over
i see actually at the clip from the start of video shows Panda uses mewtwo against kazuya and the level 9 cpu kazuya have advantage being both same fighters at ground mewtwo doesn't so good at aerial so kazuya could give a pressure but hungrybox uses jigglypuff where it could give pressure at air, more aerial multi hits, and good at off stage because of it's jump like kirby it's fits to counter kazuya because he doesn't so good at the air and even sakurai at kazuya presentation say he wasn't so good at jump and heavy and he's not so floaty without up special. by the way at 7:01 the pokemon theme music actually hilariously somehow fit the battle
Fun stuff. That Kazuya does scary things.
I just played a bunch of matches, mostly winning 2 and 3 stocks, but I had a few close calls, and a couple losses.
He can punish very hard, but only from very close. I was able to camp him effectively as Megaman, and with Ganondorf, I would generally go unpunished as long as I spaced my tilts, smashes and aerials well. Also, he tended to spot dodge too early against Wizards foot, so the slowness seems to have helped.
1:57 haha look it’s the funny song guy that goes: dame dame
Also the character’s name is yakuza rearranged it and you get kazuya
Do this again when the Kazuya Amiibo comes out. Level 50 kazuya is going to be the true final boss.
That was super fucking engaging
The CPU did it's thing, just it chucked on the last few seconds
I loved how the CPU actually got better every match
Nintendo: Smash Bros is meant to be a casual game.
Also Nintendo: *Makes Kazuya Lvl 9 CPU*
Now listen to that final match with "My Last Stand" playing in the background
That's how you know he's a top player that up air from ledge to cover the re-grab.
The fact that this went to game 5 is crazy in itself regardless
7:42 those are some serious magnet hands.
the robot invasion theory is slowly becoming more and more real
Bro you’re so funny!! I be cryinnnn listenin to your reactions to things that happen to you.
*Kazuya many months later:* Now do that again on my turf. Stamina mode.
5:57 Damn!
bro if you lose to a lv 9 cpu, no one wants your signed hoodie LOL
I would love to see a compilation of streamers getting rekt by Kazuya
5:02 HE DID THE FAKE OUT, YOOOOO