Born To War Episode 9. Part I: The Siege of Cuito Cuanavale
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- With a fresh Brigade from South Africa's Citizen Force taking over from the weary 61 Mech and 4 SAI, the SADF is ready to resume it's offensive against the Tumpo Triangle. FAPLA and the Cubans have not been idle though. As the battle for Cuito Cuanavale reaches it's climax, the attention of the opposing sides switches to the Peace Talks, but without a breakthrough the fighting gears up to be more intense than ever.
I am Cuban. This is the best serial on the Angola-cuba war. I was born in November 1963. I was ready to be deployed tonAngola in 1982. I grew up fallowing the Angola war. Quite a few of my friends were killed. Others came back with wounds and mental problems. I played schizophrenic and homosexual since I did no want to fight for Castro. In 1986 I was able to flight to Panama and nov 87 to USA. Long live the SADF fighters.
Must be one of them pale sort of Cubans with blue/green eyes ehose ancestors arrived on man-o-wars and not slavers.
nazi?
I have never seen anything as detailed and informative on the Bush War. Thank you for an amazing series I just binged watched all episodes. It is a shame that something like this would never be made by a large media company. Great work...
We really need back SADF in this country but I hv a hope when action SA take government will make Mr eben Barlow minster of defense and bring back our 32battalion to protect our borders
Thank you this top notch, my seventeen year old watches with me, so he can understand what his uncles went through and know the truth about why were were involved in this war.
Well done , looking forward to episode 9. Part 2.
Very well made... I must say you have done your homework...
Kevin, thanks for putting this documentary series together, I know it must have been a lot of work!
Very little of this information has ever been presented in a cohesive documentary format and at the time so much was hidden from the SA public. What was shown on SABC news did not indicate the ferocity or intensity of the fighting at all as little relevant detail was ever mentioned or shown!
Clearly though the SADF and SAAF forces were hamstrung in many ways by equipment deficiencies and as you point out simple lack of resources to replace equipment rapidly whilst the opposition were supplied by the Soviets without difficulty. All being equal there would have been a somewhat different outcome!
Of course the US who encouraged SA to become involved bailed out early and reneged on it's commitment of support, as is well explained in the book "in Search of Enemies" by John Stockwell who was the Chief of the Angola Task Force of the CIA. Never rely on the US as an ally, they are fair weather friends at best!
Very interesting series of videos. I worked in the Personelle Ops Room from November 1987 to April 1989. We handled the processes and files of all the deceased and injured SADF and SWATF members. There were approximately 30 deceased members a month, mostly due to private and military vehicle accidents. I also recall quite a few malaria and meningitis cases coming through during that time. The government of the time was very honest with regards to actual deaths attributed to combat action and every one was acknowledged during the news bulletins of that time. The only time that the Government gave false information was towards the end of war an Olifant tank was destroyed by one of our own aircraft, but the official version was that it was destroyed by an enemy aircraft. If I recall correctly the incident took place close to Ruacana.
Well done. Most in-depth documentary I’ve seen on the subject.
I have watched all 9 episodes and found them fascinating. The footage and narrative were expertly crafted together to produce a very impressive history.
As the step-son of a former Royal Artillery Bombardier, I have always had a soft spot for artillery and I found the coverage of the G5 and G6 especially interesting. Also the footage of the Cuban D30 and M46. I was amazed that the G6s were being exported when they were needed at the front and SADF had to make do with WW2 vintage 5.5 inchers
I noticed that a lot of the SADF radio traffic was in Afrikaans. What happened if you were an English speaking soldier who spoke little Afrikaans? I ask this because I attended school in Jo'burg from 1965 to 69 and had great difficulty learning Afrikaans. Had I stayed in SA I don't know how I would have gone on!
The references at the end roll a bit too fast for me, so could you post them here please?
Look forward to the release of the second part of Episode 9 in June.
Tot siens for now!
Stephen
Well done so proud of you honest portrayal of what happened in this history of the Bush war
"Honest"? More like Bull S propaganda!
@@brianmuvuti2102 You are being a butthurt sourpuss just because the facts doesn't live up to your distorted version of history.
@@brianmuvuti2102 hi Brain , which parts of the documentary do you disagree with or think could be improved on?
If battle hardened conscripts could not penetrate the defences of the tumpu triangle, there was no way campers would be able to do it. I don't know what the brass were thinking. Clearly they had no intention of taking Quito cannavale.
Genl Geldinghuis said they had no intention of taking the place.
.....but the campers had already done millitary duty and fought numerous battles. Refered to as "die ou manne" they contributed much to these battle and showing conscripts a few tricks.
@@zommellemmoz3999 the campers had never seen combat like this. Many were very upset by what they were expected to do. Having gone through Hooper and reading the accounts of Packer, the attacks were carried out half heartedly. During Hooper and Modular the objectives were achieved. What's more the troops during Hooper and Modular were in the field for a much longer time and had fought successfully against all their objectives.
By comparison, to the campers that were obliged to participate in operation Packer, the vetrans of Hooper and Modular were very much more hardened. The taking of the 21st brigade took three days. As did the attacks on the 25th and 59th.
In those three days we were exposed to everything that the participants of Packer took a couple of hours to decide that they had had enough.
I am not trying to detract. I think that driving into the thumpo triangle for the third time would without doubt be a terrifying experience. However it only lasted a couple of hours.
Also they were not made to go through that experience multiple times. Being in battle once is not the same as being in battle multiple times.
Especially when as a result of your first experience you give yourself a less than positive result in getting out alive.
So I stand by what I say.
I think that Packer was the boot kicking the dog out of the door and in doing that it has merit.
Gripping account..thank you..I was in the airforce (coin ops)in 1983/4..respect young man
Hey don’t know if you’ll see this but I have some quite interesting knowledge on this war! See, my grandfather served as well: as a top Cuban officer. He’s told me many stories that I don’t think anyone is aware of and I think it’s a hidden part of history!
I served on the border in 87. I have always wondered what stories our " Enemy " had to tell. Place some of those recollections.
@@shaunspies1108 my grandpa was a lieutenant colonel and was in Angola for a few years, I believe it was just before Cuito Canavale so around 1988 and before. His main enemy was the UNITA forces, but he also told us about the actual SADF forces and the encounters he’d hear about.
An event he told me about in particular was a bit funny to me it was a time he was on a flight with the Cuban general of the region, and my grandfather hated this guy he was pretty much a commie snob and he knew it. Anyways this AN-26 they are in flies through a storm because of the Generals dumb decision and they landed in Zaire, had to walk back to Angola lol.
@@blacktoast_2158 Thank you for sharing. That is awesome. God bless you that side my friend.
Fantastic and well done.. Proud of you?!!
thanks dude for an amazing series. i cant wait for the next one to come out.
Where is Part 2? Fkn awesome and informative documentary.
Part 2 will be released shortly just putting on the final touches.
I know that what if is not worth mentioning, but i have often wondered what if the sadf attacked with full force when we had them with there backs to the wall at cuito.
Actually its not worth wondering about the fact of the matter is that afrikaans would have been the national language of angola and i dont think that the very same thing
We fought against namely communists would now be rulling our country right now.
Listen more closely to the commentary, the SADF never had any intentions of occupying Angola, it was just to keep them far away North of the South West African Border so that fighting doesn't spill over into home territory. 95% of people don't even know why SA occupied Namibia.
I had the pleasure of meeting 2 of the generals when I was young. My father was a mojor in the army and he never understood why we didnt force a full on attack and break the FAPLA forces. The explanation given was that it was a very higlhly gaurded secret of how many SADF soldiers were actualy stationed at the border. The SADF mainly used mech infantry and guerilla tactics for quick shoot and scoot attacks. With many small skirmishes happening all along the border of Namibia it give of an impression that the standing army was much larger then what it actually is.
Due to economic sanctions , lack of political will, mounting public pressure and lack of equipment it would without a doubt been a tough battle for the SADF if the Cubans actually launched a full on assault. At the height of the escalation my father was conscripted from the reservists and called to the border. All in all the estimated fighting strength would have been about 35 000 SADF soldiers. If I recall correctly this was also when the transition started from the Apartheid government to the new one.
Awesome intro.
Very much looking forward to Part 2!
The Communist Alliance (FAPLA, Cuba, Russia): "Let's take Mavinga and then Jamba".
SADF: "Fuck you" *BANG*
Communists: "Okey, let's fall back to Cuito Cuanavale and dig in".
SADF: "Now you stay right there".
Communists: "We won! They didn't take Cuito Cuanavale! We won!"
SADF: LOL
What planet do you live on? South Africa got stomped/crushed by the Cubans. Matter of fact ran back to S.A. with tails tucked between thier legs. Wanted to negotiate deals for peace. Beginning of the end for Apartheid.
Top class - Thank you
I'm happy that the white south african govermant stop it 1990.
Swapo send me to east germany
as a child to fight once the SADF.
Now i can see we black kids wouldn't have any chance
Beste wat ek al gesien het , hoop om meer te sien.
I look forward to the rest of this series
Good series.
Hi Kevin. Random question, will you be going to the op excite/Hilti as well? Thats the ops where my father took part, cant get enough of the stories.
Keep up the good work bud
Hi Robert I will breifly cover some of that operation in the final episode, released on the 27th of this month.
@@borntowar5581 awesome. Thank you so much.
In military parlance it is not eightytwo or sixtyone , it is eight two or six one.
Kevin, is the documentary continuing on after Episode 9, Part 1?
Yes, Episode 9 Part II will be released on 27th June
looking forward to episode 9. Part 2.
When is episode 2 coming?
Thanks for your effort and excellent series. Could you please clarify on ambush by Cuban tanks: I understood they engaged mobile anti-personnel APC patrol and managed to lose 45 men? That would stand for 15 tank crews which sounds unreasonable. Or it was a combined arms effort and Cuban infantry somehow managed to suffer that much in exchange for 4 APCs, KO by Cuban tanks?
When are we going to get Part 2 of Episode 9 ?
June 27th 2021
Where is episode 9 part 2? Love this series..
Kevin, thanks for putting up series. When can we expect part 2 of episode 9?
Also waiting for episode 2?
But nice overall
I mean part 2 of ep.9
When can we expect episode 10
It will be released on the 27th of June the date of the last battle fouht by the SADF in Angola. Also gives me a chance to tie up all loose ends .
As a overall where do you get your stats from?
Mainly the Helmut Heitman book and online fourms.
When can we expect episode 9 part 2?
June 27th 2021.
@@borntowar5581 Thank you, much appreciated
Hi keven its me again, I just want to coment on executive outocame how they came up in Angola, They where not invited by the Angolsn gorment, they where invited by an businessmen with the name Tony Bellygum from England who own an oil campany in angola, as you said Unita had a control of tree quater and of the country, then the campany was about to be desbunded or leavet bihind due to Unitas trats, then one of workers aproched Tony sith the idea of fiting back this worke with the name of Simon Men was former British soldger in Iraq wqr he come up with the Executiv Outocam
This fact
Where’s episode 10
hell the documentary is ok but the same visuals from episode 1 to episode 10 eisch man
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Hi
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Glad the south Africans lost the war
😂 we killed you like flies!
You're funny! 😁😘
We always lost the propaganda war and won the wars. Capturing 3 tanks and claiming victory is like claiming your mother or sister is your girlfriend 😂 and for the west to believe it was to show their gullibility and or stupidity.
Saga husarza
Miłością scali ducha w panach
Moja Ojczyzna ani w ścianach
Nie w granicach i w majętności
Ojczyzną mą prawda wolności
I za wolność krwi nie skąpiono
Najeźdźcy w drogę zastąpiono
Jest z dóbr korzystania miłości
Do niej krew przelana to włości
Powszechną oto normalnością
Na służbie Ojczyzny z miłością
Oficer wojsk w nim pułkownicy
Ojczyzny mej wszem zalotnicy
Za prostych w husarii żołnierzy
Duch niepokonany gdyż wierzy
W miłości wolności zwycięstwo
Dla niej w miłości jego męstwo
Macierzy służą nie pod Królem
Ale z Ojczyzną Króla z Królem
Z własnej więc woli ochotniczo
Znak życia śmierci zasadniczo
Szli by wziąć nieprzyjaciół razy
Lecz nie im królewskie rozkazy
Bądź samowładcy jego groźby
Król Polski husarii niósł prośby
Polak w polu bitewnym walczył
Francuski dworzan boje baczył
Husarze w armii ród wspaniały
Wojska od nacisku się chwiały
Wróg przeważał je kilkakrotnie
Król Polski rzekł ono się cofnie
Jest pod naporem przeciwnika
Topnieje wojsko we krwi znika
We krwi z ludzi końskie pęciny
Jest miłość Ojczyzny bez winy
Bój pięć godzin a konie mdleją
Pałasze ich wokół śmierć sieją
Husarz duma w boju rzemiośle
Rzekli wstrzymają ich wyniośle
Brak Królu obaw z Twą koroną
Król z husarią trwa pod obroną
Gdy niebiosa zapaść się miały
Husarskie piki cios wstrzymały
Królu przy nas nic nikt Ci grozi
Husarz słowa z serca wywodzi
Był to rok tysiąc sześćset piąty
Król to Szwecji Karol dziewiąty
Ucztę on przed bitwą wyprawia
On swoich oficerów pozdrawia
Wielokrotnie byli w przewadze
Pijcie za zwycięstwo Me radzę
Towarzysz z husarii schwytany
Paweł Krajewski z nim spytany
W litewskiej armii moc husarza
Moc serca twarz Pawła wyraża
Postać Pawła syta w godności
Ma wspaniały wygląd błogości
W nim jasna niebiańska uroda
Gniewny wzrok siłę jemu doda
I zjednał w ich oczach uznanie
Szwecji dowódcy co się stanie
Szwecji król do Masfelda mówi
Jego straszność nas ani zgubi
Mam ja bojowy strój dla ciebie
Ty włóż wilczą skórę na siebie
Oto będziesz równie straszliwy
Jako ten husarz nieszczęśliwy
I może Szwedzką armię ubierz
W magii działanie skóry uwierz
Na ich mowy się nie rozsierdził
Oto Krajewski dumnie twierdził
Gdyż Karola królem nie znano
Tak za samozwańca widziano
Słowa Pawła powtórzyć zdążę
Wojsko to najjaśniejszy książę
Szczupłe i pochodem znużone
I krokiem długim przemęczone
Z liczb półczwarte tysiąca ludzi
Zaś żaru w nim nikt nie ostudzi
Małe wojsko nie jest słabością
Mój hetman liczebnie małością
Bitwę z wami jest gotów toczyć
Tryumf husarii będzie mroczyć
Kolejny pod Kircholmem ranek
Jasności ujście niespodzianek
Tryumf Husaria znowu zgarnia
Oto trzykrotnie mniejsza armia
Hetmana Polski Chodkiewicza
Zwycięstwo ducha glorię zlicza
Masakra walk bitewny przebieg
Karola wojsk rozbicie miał bieg
Very biased SA forces got their ass kicked as well
😂🤣😀😉