Who Won the 1st Presidential Debate? | 538 Politics Podcast

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024
  • 538's Galen Druke is joined by senior elections analyst Nathaniel Rakich and New York Times polling editor Ruth Igielnik to talk about the first 2024 presidential debate.
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Komentáře • 45

  • @alexs4392
    @alexs4392 Před 2 měsíci +30

    Always been a Biden guy.. but that was ROUGH and about the worst outcome we coulda asked for

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue Před 2 měsíci +2

      Y’all are giving us Trump via Biden.

    • @pranoychow3808
      @pranoychow3808 Před 2 měsíci

      I thought Biden did great! He will win.

    • @user-uj6tc4pj1x
      @user-uj6tc4pj1x Před 2 měsíci

      A couple pundits highlighted how Trump's pitch was mostly a selection of his rally speeches. There were a few additions, kind of like samples he tested on the audience after Biden stumbled. But he didn't seem to offer much to moderates. Even his promise to accept the election results if legal, fair, etc., brought the moderator to ask the question again for clarification. In other words, once Trump saw he won, he didn't worry about expanding his base. He didn't even try to seem charming, just angry and mean. He performed better than Biden, but if he had moderated his message, spoken factually (no lies), or mustered compassion, that could have been much worse for Biden and much better for Trump. "Could have been worse" is cold comfort but it's true. He's still Trump.

    • @TruthAndRec
      @TruthAndRec Před 2 měsíci

      @@pranoychow3808 Nah bro you’re tweaking 💀😭

  • @Occupied_South
    @Occupied_South Před 2 měsíci +10

    Cope. Your next president won the debate.

  • @blackout07blue
    @blackout07blue Před 2 měsíci +32

    This was a humiliation for Biden, like a disaster. This race is over.

    • @ripplecutter233
      @ripplecutter233 Před 2 měsíci +5

      The funny part is that Trump didn't have to do anything. He just had to play to not lose. Biden played as hard as his cognition could handle and he still lost.

    • @luddite4change449
      @luddite4change449 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@ripplecutter233 The cognition issue is a somewhat of a big deal.

  • @notdeadyet3929
    @notdeadyet3929 Před 2 měsíci +5

    Is this a comedic rhetorical question? Democrats should have made the decision to pull Joe & Kamala as the candidates. You tried to pawn off the idea Trump was the delusional one and guess what, we all saw the lies you spun last night. Is Debbie W Schultz still running the show? Seem so..Total circus last night at home field.

  • @MultiCII
    @MultiCII Před 2 měsíci +2

    Biden could not even cite serial 7s or serial presidents if someone asked him. He has stage 2 or stage 3 dementia already. Unsteady gate, multiple falls, low confidence, easily fatigued, bradykinesia plus starring episodes as well as periods of loud, inappropriate, and distracted behavior. This has been occurring for a long time. Shame on his family for not helping him politely and gracefully resign. He is unfit. His condition puts American at risk in numerous ways. He is not presidential, not respected, has policies that have caused substantial harm including loss of life and excess waste. He has a failed presidency. Terrible.

  • @Dragracingduleist
    @Dragracingduleist Před 2 měsíci +20

    We all lost... the fact our choices are a old old man who looks lost and a old man who is a convicted felon and general pile of crap. We gota do better

    • @esobed1
      @esobed1 Před 2 měsíci

      Since these are our only choices...
      We don't fully define the choice that Trump actually is however. A narcissistic sociopath compramat under Russian influence.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue Před 2 měsíci +4

      Biden got humiliated. Trump presented himself better than usual.

    • @geejaybee1970
      @geejaybee1970 Před 2 měsíci +1

      This is the best answer.

    • @Dragracingduleist
      @Dragracingduleist Před 2 měsíci +2

      @@blackout07blue i mean if u consider speaking out his ass the entire time while never answering anything a good preformance then ok. Basically everything dude said was a flat out lie

    • @Balibaliadashi
      @Balibaliadashi Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@nikhilnewse3318I’m not sure Trump told any truths, so, all of them?

  • @jeanefpraxiadis1128
    @jeanefpraxiadis1128 Před 2 měsíci +7

    One candidate shouldn’t win, the other can’t win.

  • @firstlast-yn4qg
    @firstlast-yn4qg Před 2 měsíci +1

    Even if the debate wasn't watched Media has carried it's steam far and wide and tells us how many dems pols don't think he's fit..

  • @leftoflibra
    @leftoflibra Před 2 měsíci +11

    No one

  • @cleokey
    @cleokey Před 2 měsíci +16

    America lost ... what a shit show 😢

  • @NOYFB982
    @NOYFB982 Před 2 měsíci +15

    You are losing what little credibility you have left. Biden wasn’t a little bad; he was very bad. Stop ignoring the truth. Why bother to listen to you? (At least you got the Trump part right; he was just meh, not good, not bad)

    • @geejaybee1970
      @geejaybee1970 Před 2 měsíci +3

      Lighten up, dude...

    • @NOYFB982
      @NOYFB982 Před 2 měsíci +3

      @@geejaybee1970 I very much miss Nate.

  • @kalebb7170
    @kalebb7170 Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you have the video why do you release it as an audio only podcast?

  • @TirrellKajder
    @TirrellKajder Před 2 měsíci

    I love you because you are such a fantastic individual

  • @ChadBlevins
    @ChadBlevins Před 2 měsíci +14

    I will vote for the Democratic candidate.

    • @blackout07blue
      @blackout07blue Před 2 měsíci +6

      If it’s Biden, then Trump thanks you.

    • @NileSings
      @NileSings Před 2 měsíci +2

      Good boy!

    • @mikewilliams6025
      @mikewilliams6025 Před 2 měsíci +5

      You're like that violinist that goes down with the Titanic. A dying sucker while playing for the rich.

  • @christianburgos2736
    @christianburgos2736 Před 2 měsíci

    We The People Won!!! 🌎

  • @g.marshall3397
    @g.marshall3397 Před 2 měsíci

    This was not a debate. It was Trump using a technique that actually has a formal name, the Gish gallop, although I suspect he comes by it naturally. It’s a rhetorical technique in which someone throws out a fast string of lies, non-sequiturs, and specious arguments, so many that it is impossible to fact-check or rebut them in the amount of time it took to say them. Trying to figure out how to respond makes the opponent look confused, because they don’t know where to start grappling with the flood that has just hit them.
    It is a form of gaslighting, and it is especially effective on someone with a stutter, as Biden has. It is similar to what Trump did to Biden during a debate in 2020

    • @cutcut1980
      @cutcut1980 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Nobody was looking a Trump. Biden looked and acted like he was about to pass onto the other side.