"They Tarnished Cricket FOREVER!" Sir Geoffrey Boycott On Australia's Controversial Win
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- Piers Morgan Uncensored is joined by former England cricketer Sir Geoffrey Boycott, Conservative peer Lord Marland, Australian cricket commentator Melinda Farrell and Associate Editor of the Daily Mirror Kevin Maguire to discuss Australia's controversial win against England in the Ashes Test match after wicket-keeper Alex Carey stumped out Jonny Bairstow after the batsman thought play was dead.
Piers suggests that he believes the blame lies with the captain Pat Cummins for not getting the decision overturned. Boycott agrees and believes that it is disappointing to see the captain not request for it to be reversed but finds it equally disappointing that he has not come out and apologised.
Sir Geoffrey Boycott also adds that this has tarnished the game of cricket and believes that things like this will turn the game into gamesmanship and trying to find loopholes and advantages over the other team which is not what cricket is about.
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Im a fervent England fan, but I have to say I put the blame firmly on Bairstow...Nobody goaded or tricked him into leaving his crease, he left of his own volition and the Aussies saw an opportunity...village from Bairstow...
Brilliantly put sir, but Geoffrey as much as I love him is the biggest sore loser I’ve ever come across
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@@nicolaburch7878He has also known Bairstow from a kid. His opinion on this is not objective. It is riddled with bias, conscious or not. As a neutral, I put all the blame on Bairstow. He tried to get Marnus out the same way, and I won't hear any waffle about how it is different because it was end of over or whatever else. Drivel
Aussie Breakfast TV Hosts are pissing themselves laughing over here this morning!...🇦🇺😂😂😂...Oh dear!!
@@nicolaburch7878 look in the mirror
“Spirit of game” when losing
“ Presence of mind “ when winning
Best comment yet.
Summed up in the best way
You NAILED it!
12:53
Maradona’s wish must be granted - Eliminating England with the right hand one time 😂😂😂. *What a bunch of losers!* CRYING BABIES. First Butler and then Bairstow, extremely stupid players
As Geoffrey Boycott has always stated ( quite rightly)
You should never give the opposition any chance to to take your wicket.
Within the rules, that was a fair dismissal.
@@Mickyway When Stokes batted away a ball from hitting his stumps, was that spirit of fair play?, when Broad refused to leave the field after being called out, that must have spirit of fair play? There are hundreds of examples, but because England are 2.0 down the spirit of fair play arrives at the station.
@davidpvt6817 Of course it was.
Did you listen to any other words that were spoken in this interview?
Ask Boycott”s wife, how great he is !!
@@tommcculloch5278stokes - obstructed the field - OUT !!!!
In the 1st innings Bairstow tried to do the same thing to an Australian batsman. And as a wicket keeper he should have known it could then happen to him, if he hasn't seen or heard the umpire call over. Morgan talks over the reporter when she tries to talk about Bairstow trying to do it earlier. Fair decision, Bairstows mistake.
I'm an England fan and supporter, the wicketkeeper instantly launched the throw in, as they do constantly, Bairstow wondered off without even a glance back. I'm afraid he's out. Nothing to do with the spirit of the game.
Ms Dhoni
Everyone is doing that leaving crease thinking it is over... It is a long day and to be that concentrated is not possible... If they do so then in every match you can out atleast 5 batsmen out like mankad...
Only because the second innings of Australia they tried the same thing to labergne but missed the stumps so bad luck guys you did it first but that's different is it bad loosers
@@salttea8926nope, you haven't played right?
It becomes habit!
@@JayJay-xj9on that is why giving warning is best thing.... I understand if MCC doesn't make these rules then it will be a loophole in laws of cricket then everyone will try to benifit it... And even Bairstow wasn't trying to get benifit... If every team try to get others out like this then cricket will surely be like Tom and Jerry... These type of controversies can be sought out by teams on ground like giving warning that is why Cricket is called "Gentlemen's game as women's also play it"..
I’m a cricket tragic from New Zealand, so obviously I have a bias against Australia because of their dominance against us. Bairstow fu&*ed up. It was great awareness from Carey. I’m a club cricketer, and I would have walked with my head down if I did what Bairstow did. The whinging is pathetic.
Poms are very good at crying. 🥵 😰 😭
Hence why we call them whinging poms. No law was broken and we played a fair game. They just can't stand the fact that this whole bazball bullshit is failing on them and Aus is 2 nil up. :)
Eng vs nz worlds cup 2019 , last over stokes runs for 2 n then balls hits his bat n goes to the boundary then awarded 4 free runs. England didn't withdraw those 4 free runs in the spirit of the game.on Many occasions england also did this kinda things n took the wickets in law of the game😂funny to see england talking about spirit of the game
Thank you mate.
@@callofduty3807 “ BazBAWL “
I love how Pierce literally cuts her off as she's pointing out that Bairstow tried the exact same thing to shift the talk back to blaming Cummins 😂
Australia whinging about body line didn't remove it from the game, maybe the poms should just get used to it instead of crying and being sore losers
Lost intrest after you said cut her off....
@@royalalloy3471 sorry, uh.. spoke over, interrupted, failed to let her finish... Find any of those more interesting? Another good game of cricket on our hands at least, has been a great series so far
Poms will be Poms.
@@daviddavies3847 criminals will be dishonest.... And now Oz has gone down the 'We want to be Yanks When we grow up route'
@@royalalloy3471 Limey's crying is like a national pasttime at this point.
Ben Stokes showed absolute Spirit of Cricket when he told umpires during the 2019 WC final tht he won't accept the 4 runs which deflected from his bat..when umpire said the runs are within the rules..he deliberately let the next ball be dot and allowed NZ to win their first WC ....
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
And we all know that didn’t happen. 😮
@peterwhitehead4924 do you have white head or blonde head or black head
In my days of playing club cricket you never ever trusted the opposition wicket keeper. They were as big a threat as the bowler. Bairstow was taking a mental shortcut and as wicket keeper he should have known better. I don't believe for a second that England would have withdrawn the appeal if it had been the other way around.
Totally agree mate. i think Stokes is full of crap saying that… he would have gladly taken Warner or Labsuchagne’s wickets if Bairstow hit the stumps & the shoe was on the other foot
I agree with the Bairstow's mistake. How would explain a stumping dismissal from a fast bowler? Last ball of the over and he tapped his shoe twice. I think it's enough for the opposition to know that all's good. He wasn't trying to steal a bye, he was simply dumb. Just imagine Bairstow building a partnership with Stokes they could have pulled up the game.
🦘 should have the courage to say. You left the crease and by rules you are out, but we are capable enough to get you out the legitimate way. Lyon coming out to bat limping and building that partnership with Star was so courageous. Anyways, If I was Bairstow I would feel cheated or hiding behind "Rules"
@@hodgkinsonstephen6837 gone are those days when international cricketers played for fun.
These day's it's a full time professional career.
Old spirit of the game is not as important anymore.... winning is.
There is now a new way to play with the spirit of the game and that's to except the rules of the game as law.
Bairstow, stokes and others just have to stop whining and focus on the next 3.
Your time is not as old as sir Geoffrey's time
If Carey's throw missed the stumps and it went to the boundary, it would be overthrows. I can assure you that England would not be asking the umpires to remove the runs from their score.
no they wouldn't, bairtstow was going to talk with stokes at the other end. and also Bairstow after playing that delivery, marked his guard with his shoes which clearly indicates that he is not going down the pitch for runs. the law says thats out and thats fine. but if i was the Australia captain i would've said thats not out cause that dismissal was corny and kiddish. I remember viv richards had a clear and fair opportunity to make a run out at the non strikers end but he didnt cause he know it wouldnt be a natural run out.
What if what if, international wicket keepers don't miss and would'nt go anywhere near the boundary. You're point is gay and stupid.
@@eihabkhan6362 its was within the rules, sorry if England cant understand rules.
@@Ghost-tx4ft when did I say it wasnt in the rules? Lmao. It was in the rules that why he was out. I'm talking about the fact that how phony and kiddish it was for them to give it out. It wasn't a "gentleman's" dismissal.
@@eihabkhan6362t moved on from gentlemen sport to a professional sport long back.
Funny how Boycott is so worried about the ‘spirit of the game’………yet doesn’t have a problem slapping his misses. Is that fair play?
Complete grub who only cared about himself first
Highly relevant ... well said. Suggest your next step should be Mastermind.
If England cared about the spirit of the game, New Zealand won the world cup!
Love how Piers interrupts her when she starts speaking about Jonny Bairstow trying the same thing on Australia
That's why they brought her on, her goal in this interview is to increase her instagram followers. An actual current or former Aussie cricketer would have made Piers and Geoffrey look silly(ier).
Get ian chappell or someone on there
Solid arguments Geoff. Comparing it to a completely different incident 90 years ago in which everyone involved is now dead .
And was condemned by both sides (t’wasn’t just Australians deploring Bodyline, Geoffrey! Also, how do you compare a legitimate - at the time, yes - but very dangerous tactic (no helmets back then) to an underarm lob at the stumps? Not sure if he’s argument stands up.
And people were physically injured...
and it was NOT with in the rules at all, it was unfair intimidatory bowling but the umpires did not have the balls intervene.
Yeah, i don't think half of the young audience have ever heard of bodyline🤷
If it doesn't matter because "all the people involved are dead", would you say the Holocaust doesn't matter? Dick head.
Boycott should read the MCC's preamble about the "Spirit of the Game". In that it talks about "accepting the umpires decision". By this standard, England is the only one not playing by the "spirit of the game". Funny how Bairstow tried the exact same thing in this match - just wasn't good enough to execute it properly. Ask Colin De Grandholme about England and "spirit of the game". Double standards being applied by England here - selective memory is a fine thing.
The spirit of cricket didn't apply when they won a world cup. When Broad didn't walk after nicking it to first slip. Can't have double standards. In all honesty, credit to Carey for incredible awareness. Australia did nothing wrong. They ball wasn't dead yet!!!!
What did it have to do with the world cup?
@@whattiler5102go rewatch the 2015 wc final. Very similar dismal in that match
Too true. And the 2019 WC was just dreadful. England shouldn't have won that, they know they didn't.
@@whattiler5102Britishers are pigs
@@whattiler5102they won it with a boundary count. They could have shared it with New Zealand.😂
Bairstow attempted the same thing a few days earlier, McCullum (who as a kiwi is my cricketing hero) got people out in the same way during his career, and England literally won and celebrated a cricket world cup through drawing the game twice after being awarded an extra run against the rules. They never won that game. So, England can't complain in this situation at all. Not only that, but anyone in their right mind would consider Mitchell Starc's "catch" a clean catch. Clearly it was a catch but because of the way the rules are written it was over turned. I can't stand the Australian cricket team, but they haven't done anything wrong in this situation and what they have done, England have done many times before.
This comment should be pinned to give context, particularly as Bairstow himself attempted the same thing two days earlier against Marnus, they can't cry when they tried the same thing.
Thanks for that.
See, this guy's a kiwi and he agrees with us. Indians agree with us too. The Poms have underestimated their own hypocrisy and egos. Except for a few like Kevin here that have sense.
@@dheath3697 What! Bairstow did exactly the same thing under the captaincy of Ben Stokes???? Who said he would not condone such an action via appeal??? Surely not! Hypocrisy (at best). lol
@@hodgkinsonstephen6837 Stokes has had years to state that they didn't really win the world cup!
I recall an incident in an ODI between England and NZ at the Oval (2008) Sidebottom and Elliot collided while attempting a single, knocking Elliot to the ground (nobodies fault, just a sporting incident), the ball was thrown to the wicketkeeper who took off the bails with Elliot still on the ground stranded outside the crease. Captain Collingwood (current England coach) was told by the umpire if you appeal he is out under the laws of the game. Appeal made, Elliot out. What goes around comes around. I rest my case.
As a wicketkeeper Bairstow should have known better, especially seeing as every wicket keeper has attempted to get batsmen out in the same way for decades.
To steal someone else’s clever insight, that’s exactly the point, believing Bairstow is a wicketkeeper is the first mistake.
He actually tried it on day 3 vs Marnus
I agree. It was a schoolboy error. An international cricketer should know better.
The first rules were drawn up in the 1700s, that could be one of the oldest rules.
I am amazed that some commenters are so biased that they cannot understands the Rules.
I was a keeper for 27 years, and I ran out at least half a dozen batsman that wandered out of their crease in the same way...the ball was still live, over was not called, the umpires were still in place, it's WELL within the rules, and I never had a player run out/stumped that complained about the 'letter of the game' and usually felt like idiots for being caught out for not paying attention....Bairstow has a habit of walking out....maybe he'll correct that now!? Carey had presence of mind where Bairstow didn't.
I can't imagine there's a keeper in the world that would condemn Carey
Next Time Jonny can let the clowns chuck orange gust everywhere and stop the game for all yeah?? 👍
once a cheat always an ozzie.. its in their blood....
@@chefblanc That is a ridiculous comment English history is full of treachery and deception, self righteous pompous hypocrites.
@@chefblanc Bairstowe tried it twice unsuccessfully, Carey succeeds once, and Australia are the bad guys. This has been hilarious but typical of WHINGIN' POMS
Piers goes on about how "everyone" felt wrong about it, and making the "world" feel good about what happened. Except the world feels it was absolutely correct to take the wicket, its only the english that are crying foul, where nothing is foul to start with. If anyone should apologise, it should be England.
The voice of the world has announced their view
Geoff Boycott was the opener in 1981 test team visiting India and in the first test, Krish Srikanth was run out by an English player for his customary wandering out of his crease at the end of the delivery.He was out according to rules.
Nobody called Srikanth back nor did anybody apologise.
In fact they were laughing at Srikanth..
That was John Emburey who ran out Srikkanth. Sir Geoffrey has got no right to lecture the Aussies. Typical English hypocrite
Hear hear. All too typical of English spirit of the game double standards. 😮😢😊😅
@@Tyronepeaderwe are legendary for it. Grown men still cry over the hand of God while failing to acknowledge we kicked absolute lumps out maradonna for 90 mins
That was different. That was mankadding at the bowlers end. This is a batsman who wonders out of his crease so consistently during play that the keeper actually threw the ball before he left the crease, predicting he would, and he did😂
Look at the footage. Bairstow was in his crease when Carey threw it and it hit after he left it. Brilliant play. As soon as Carey caught that and threw it straight back at pitch, ball was in play. Them if he pegged it and it missed the stumps and went to the boundary, England would be given 4 runs.
Bairstow should have turned and planted his bat in his crease, signalling he isn't running, before leaving his crease. Like juniors know to do and do almost everytime before leaving their crease.
How conveniently forgotten ! They should have allowed Mitchell Starcs catch although they conveniently hid behind the rules of the game
How could Bairstow consider the ball dead when he didn't even know where the ball was? He never looked. Nothing underhand nothing dirty nothing unfair.
way to ruin the English argument with reality.
He started walking straight after the ball had passed his head, complete space cadet.
Acted like he owned the bleedin stadium!
The ball was caught and thrown in the same movement. So 'live'. If the batsman then walks out of his crease with a reckless lack of awareness of what is happening in the field, you can't blame the WK. Sportsmanship has nothing to do with this. At the highest level, schoolboy errors are quite rightly going to be punished ruthlessly. Anyone playing test cricket really should know that.
Man, can’t believe the tantrum people have thrown over this! Johnny had a brain fade, simple as that! Carey caught it and threw it immediately, it’s not like he waited and sneakily did it. There’s footage of Johnny doing much worse in 2014 and being proud of himself
if you see the replay Carey has released the ball before Bairstow has even had a chance to move out of the crease. So it was premeditated.
@@sharif1306 all he had to do was turn around to see where the ball was and he would’ve been ok then. He was dozy and just had a brain fade. He shouldn’t even be in the team, his keeping is sub standard. He just dropped multiple catches in the 3rd test he should’ve caught
Your right , time to move on, stokes already said he wouldn’t like to win like that and he would have withdrawn it.👍 just shows the difference between the two countries, let’s leave it at that.🤣
@@stan0009 you’ve been ‘bazlighted’ too by the sounds of it. You’ve had pitches made to suit this bazball rubbish, won every toss and had the best conditions every test and were still down 2 nil. Let me guess, you’ve had a moral victory? Even Andrew Strauss and Eion Morgan said it was out. You’re right, Stokes doesn’t care about winning and his captaincy and ego driven comments show it. Poms have won only 3 of the last 20 ashes tests, not including moral victories of course lol. Stokes declared too early in the first test and too late in the last, doesn’t he have a weather app? Everyone knew rain was coming…except him lol
@@youknowwho8700 let’s just leave it at that , England wouldn’t like to win like that👍
Did Boycott just compare a random stumping incident to a systematic and sanctioned approach by bowlers to harm and maim batsmen?
Yes he did. Guy has lost his mind.
Don't you love it when he says "oh but they started it".
@@quagar6982 Aussies started it by having Bradman batting at 3. Unforgivable and insubordinate.
Boycott is a fool.
And the guy was talking of an era when j3ws were vibing in The Weimar Republic and the subsequent Nazi Germany.
If you have actually played cricket at grassroots level it was a very intelligent dismissal and it’s a basic rule to never leave the crease until ball was dead
Agreed. A lot of the commentary about this is either coming from people who have seldom, if ever, played the game (aside from Sir Geoffrey, who has clearly lost the plot) OR who have another agenda.
@@anthonyjames7534 Sir Geoffrey never had the plot. One of the most boring batsmen in the history of the game and a bloke who bowled with his cap on. Lovely chap, but 'out there' even for a Yorkshireman.
yes, every young kid currently playing cricket knows this was clearly out
@@AndyGraceMedia yes he was boring to watch. But he played with grit, determination and prized his wicket. Qualities I admire.
It's sad to see him being rolled out on such a lowbrow program and being exploited for the weight his words carry. I expect this from Morgan. And well Lord "Haw Haw", who is he anyway. But Geoffrey....
You would have thought they would have learned from the arrogance of Ian Bell in 2011-but if you expect the Aussies to be soft like Dhoni & the Indians were back then forget about it & I guarantee that neither Ganguly in the 2000's or Kohli currently would be recalling anybody either & nor should they. Stokes did not recall de Grandhomme last summer when England did the same to him, moral bastion Broad was begging the umpire to give him out & all the biased English media, broadcasters & fans were singing the praises of the fielder that did it as quick thinking genius.
How ironic that England are crying about a technicality, but also have a World Cup trophy because of one.
Exactly ,, all of these morals went down the drain when eng won because of a technicality ,,
@jamesthereaper7 What about the one we won in your backyard last year? Anything wrong with that one?
@@jackbaker1921- yes we call it cruel stroke of fate
Because these Aussies and Britishers are hypocrites. they absolutely thrased Ashwin when Ashwin mankand Buttler but now when shoe is on the other foot they are justfying their wrong deeds
@@jackbaker1921my backyard isn't that big
Let's put it this way......the series is level at 2-2 and we're on day 5 in the last test and Australia are in bat and they require less than say 20 runs to win and have 1 wicket left and have number 10 and 11 in bat. The batsman is facing the ball and does exactly as Bairstow did and walked out of his crease thinking the ball is dead and Bairstow or whoever the keeper may be, throws the ball at the stumps and it hits and the batsman is out of his crease. England go up and celebrate the run out/stumping and England celebrate winning The Ashes. You honestly think Ben Stokes would then come out and say it's not in the spirit of the game and request that it is given not out? Don't be daft....you'll take the win as it's within the rules of the game what has been done!
Eloquently put! I'm English and I agree TOYALLY! All this whinging and whining isn't doing much for our reputation of being whinging poms.
I love that. Ollie Pope incident, "but it still would be deemed in play." Boycott says the ump should say 'over' so the ball is still deemed in play. The whole cricket world just sees this as whinging poms.
they are a bunch of hypocrites
Boycott's comparison of Bodyline to an out-of-crease wicket is not an apples-for-apples comparison. Bodyline was an attempt to weaponize the bowler against the batsmen, by bowling hard and fast directly at them, in a deliberate attempt to FORCE the player out of crease, lest the player stay where he was and get injured. Essentially, that boils down to a deliberate attempt to injure the player. Jardine conceived of it as a strategy to try and take new players like Bradman out of play, because of how well they could hit the ball. Several players were badly injured by the Bodyline strategy, which included head injuries and concussions. To say that taking a sneaky wicket is in any way the same thing is a false equivalence and a gross mischaracterization. It makes one scenario seem a lot worse than it is, and the other sound not as bad as it was, by removing all the necessary context.
ADDITION. Bodyline was were was a bowler bowled the ball directly at the opponents head without the ball hitting the wicket. That is to say, the point was to bowl full tossers at peoples heads to intimidate them with no chance of a wicket being taken so was NOT in the spirit of the rules at all. It was only a matter of time before someone got killed. They couldn't call it "headline" for obvious reasons... the headline being "headline"! A full toss at waist height is not a problem. One at your head is......
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He is not comparing the two. He is pointing out the aussies we’re the first to complain about something being outside the spirit of the game.
Geoffrey is clueless...what a bad take from him.
@philmurdoch1203 by comparing them, as if they were equivalent. They're not. One is a genuine concern based on player safety, the other is a bunch of sore losers complaining over an uncontroversial wicket, because of the batsman's error. Which he doesn't dispute, I might add. It's in the codified rules, and that's how it's always been played, it's only become an issue because some toffy-nosed brits don't like it!
The tears of lords and sirs are a wonderful thing in Australia.
Underarm bowling, using sandpaper and now this .Australia is the only country in the world that would use these tactics
@@davidboyle1193 Bodyline, ahem...
@davidboyle1193 Bairstow tried the same move on Marnus during this test match, so that's garbage 😅😅
@@davidboyle1193 except for when Bairstow tried to do the same thing twice during Australia’s batting but couldn’t even hit the stumps because he’s a rubbish keeper. Let’s not forget Ollie Pope getting De Grande Homme out in a similar way & let’s not also forget Englands own coach McCullum dismissing 3 people that way. Do you also remember when Ben Foakes held onto the ball and waited for that Irish bloke to lift his foot up in the air & stumped him also ? Apparently it’s “ not in the spirit of the game “ when someone does it to England
@@davidboyle1193 I seam to recall Marcus Trescothick admitting in his autobiography England used some questionable tactics with regards to shining the ball which produced prodigious swing that helped them win the 2005 ashes series. But don't worry, Aussies find English tears much tastier than Murray mints, especially when they're seasoned with hypocrisy.
Now we have Geoffery Boycott (a man I used to admire) defending Bodyline and saying that the Australians whinged about it so much that MCC had to change the rules, when in fact it was the MCC who changed the rules after they witnessed it first hand in England the next season!
QE2 said - "Sir Geoffrey Boycott, I knight you for your services to insomnia in Australia".
The English whinged about the West Indians bowling bouncers which is a part of a bowler's armoury when the West Indies were riding high. The ICC decided to limit how many bouncers a bowler can bowl. England don't like it up em'.
Geoffery Boycott, convicted domestic abuser.
England did it to Kris Srikanth
“In my case, it was my debut Test. Batting on 13, I defended the ball towards gully, where John Emburey
was fielding. “Now, I had this really bad habit of loitering, or sauntering outside the crease after playing the ball. Emburey, who was initially about to throw the ball to the covers or the bowler - I think it was Bob Willis - instead picked up the ball and threw down the stumps (at the striker’s end), and I was stranded outside my crease. I looked like a fool."
“I felt it was very foolish of me to have done that. At the end of the day, it was my fault. I don’t think there is a question of the spirit of the game there. Walking back, I felt I was so stupid. I didn’t know how to face my teammates in the dressing room,”
Kris Srikkanth
Well said!
Sir Geoffrey Boycott fails to admit that Bairstow attempted the same technique a few days ago and draws on the 32-33 series, even then he blames us for Bodyline. The long room incident was disgraceful and the Australians must not walk the room.
Exactly. Bairstow attempts the same most test matches. Thought with all that practice he'd be better than Carey at it!
@jonnywyatt5522 Bairstow was definitely picked on his batting, he is a fumble foot with poor hands and the sideways movement of an Elephant.
Completely different scenario. The Aussies were batting out their crease to gain an advantage. This is good wicketkeeping to try to keep the batter closer to the stumps. You can tell by the batter's movement and expression that he didn't think the ball was dead.
@@Live4NowOK it was the end of the over and the Aussies always cheat. They have 2 players that should not even be playing. Smith caught Root in the 1st innings and given out, but it was clearly grounded so what alot of rubbish
@@andyarnottmelsmith6517it’s not cheating if it’s in the rules of the game. Pathetic excuses by our fans and players.
For Geoffrey Boycott to compare the Australians complaining about body line which resulted in multiple Australian players getting severely injured and one never playing cricket for his country again, to Bairstow leaving his crease is absolutely ridiculous.
The complaint about bodyline was that it could’ve legitimately ended Careers. The complaint about this is that England players are stupid and we are going to invoke the spirit of cricket anytime an English player is stupid.
Yeah to compare it to a series where bowlers were trying to hit batsmen in the head before helmets were in is a pretty good comparison isn’t it, just stupid of him to even try
Multiple players weren't injured. Woodville ducked into a good length ball. The series was half over b4 they started. The year before they were crowing about 2 fast bowlers who carved their way through opponents. They will do ANYTHING to win.
Well said 👍
Ah yes very good point. Remember the visiting England team complain about the ground at Sabina Park because they didn't want to face Courtney Walsh and Curtly Ambrose on that track. Isn't it the same also for the west indies on the same track facing fast bowling?
@stephenreeds3632 sounds like your so old you were there....typical Pom bring up an example 90yrs ago🤦♂️
Concerned curators say the drainage at Headingley may not be able to cope with the torrential downpour of English tears which have fallen since Johnny Bairstow was dismissed during the second test last week, requesting a Super Sopper from Australia to try and deal with the issue.
As large puddles continued to form on the ground - including on the wicket area - curator Ian Tillingham said it was touch and go whether they would be ready for Thursday’s start. “We’ve had thirty inches of tears since Sunday, and the deluge doesn’t seem to be letting up,” he said. “If this sook from English supporters and players is still going tomorrow, we may be looking at a wash out”.
- The Shovel
To all English supporters,does anybody knows what happened in WC 2019 final? 🤔
I've played cricket at the grassroots level. This kind of dismissal is not only accepted, but thought of as an awareness by the keeper and blunder by batsman
Agreed.
Absolutely!
Exactley
Grassroot?
Gully cricket has different rules man
Feedback overwhelmingly supports the Aussie position. What happens on the pitch, stays on the pitch. Time to move on, lose graciously and look forward to the next one.
"Thank you Melinda. We couldn't get anyone else " 💀
I truly underestimated how low England had sunk. Now they cannot even cope with a simple and obvious dismissal in cricket, and want second chances handed to them when it doesnt suit.
Apparently they need their batsmen to also be the one deciding when an over is finished, when the ball becomes dead...plus new rules that you cannot stump anyone on the last ball of an over (just in case the batsman makes a mistake), and indeed no taking advanatage of any batsman that has a brain fade or makes a genuine mistake.
Cummins should have said Bairstow you are out but consider this as a last warning and we will get out the legitimate way. Fast baller bowled the last ball of the over, no connection with the bat, no attempt to steal a single, haven't left the crease till the ball hit the keeper's gloves, tapped his shoe twice to say all's good but just because the law says it he has to depart is a shame to cricket. Had he scored a 50-60 runs that could have tilted the game in England's favor. If it was that straight forward it wouldn't have been the headlines today.
symptomatic of the woke culture that's taken hold there
@@Ammar.hashir Why would he want to say that ?
Its just a stumping mate. He'd have no reason to say it. He's just OUT.
You might ask if there was anything controversial, but there wasnt. He;s out of his crease and got stumped. Only some people have a problem with it and 95% of those are English...that says everything.
Totallly agree... in World Class Cricket, rules matter, mistakes get punished & rulings will sometimes go against you / sometimes with you!
@@Ammar.hashir Bairstow had no intentions to take a run, agreed, but he was out as per law, on technical ground, but you think Cummins should have called him back. However, Duckett was caught by Starcy well and good, but the catch was invalidated on technical grounds, again, as per the laws and rules of the game, but the entire Lords erupted when he was given not-out.
I honestly can't see why Cummins should have called back Bairstow but it was absolutely fine for Duckett to continue batting, backed by all the cheers and applauds of the Pommie fans. You can't have the cake and eat it mate. That's delusional.
Carey's action was one continuous movement. Thus the game was not 'over'.
Exactly. The umpire had not called "over". The ball was not dead. Schoolboy error by Bairstow and somehow it's Australia's faut. It is very hard to understand the commentary about Bairstow's dismissal from where I sit.
@@anthonyjames7534 - not that the umpires would have known - both of them were head down or looking away; if they'd called 'Over' it would have been the wrong call, because as you noted, the ball wasn't dead.
The over is not over until the umpires say it is-funny how England are so arrogant they keep making schoolboy errors like not running their bat in, wandering down the crease for a spot of gardening when the ball is still live etc.
@@anthonyjames7534 The same commentators, media & fans that were singing the praises of Pope when he did the same thing to de Grandhomme a year back, the same England captain complaining now about how he couldn't live with himself who didn't withdraw that appeal & lived with himself fine, the bowler then was Broad who was shouting at the umpire to give Colin out & not telling Pope that is all he will be remembered for etc.
Also, a wicket keeper won't do that so instantaneously without observing a pattern.
England did this to Ireland in 2019 and British tv described it as cheeky !
if England can enjoy wc19 win then I can't see a reason for Pat to feel guilty here
Only England is allowed to use the rules as they like it.
It's funny, Boycott mentioned bodyline and blamed it on Australia. Even the English media back then opposed it.
I think his point was that they claimed that what we did was underhand but they claim this is ok. I don't believe either were ok. I think bodyline was underhand and I think what australia did at lords was underhand.
Body line occurred in a time before helmets! It was a cynical ploy to blunt Bradman. Normally have time for Geoffrey but drawing a very long bow in this comparison for what was a schoolboy error.
@@rwolves It is a bit of a worry when someone has to go back nearly 90 years to try and find an example. Boycott is irrelevant. I suggest very few people respect his antiquated opinions (they did not even when he played).
@@Memphis2010GFCi I used to like him (Boycott). I am very angry after what he said here. Do you think he knows or cares that the man that he spoke of former Australian cricket captain Bill Woodfull, died from an injury caused by a cricket ball hitting him in the chest during bodyline? He didn't die at the time, but it did cause his early death. Boycott disgusts me.
@@rwolves then England are also underhand. Pot calling the kettle black.
Unlike McCollum there was no trickery from Carey he threw it straight away, no tricks bairstow made a mistake, the ball never stopped moving, the ball wasn’t dead.
Im sure everybody has seen by now, the video that has emerged of Bairstow stumping a batsman, a Mr Patel, when he raised his foot 1/2 an inch off the crease. Yes he appealed for the out and got it. Whats good enough for county cricket, is good enough everywhere. Bairstow was out fair and square, he did the big batsman No No, he walked away from the crease. Suck it up my Pommy cousins.
What is funny is that the vast majority of opinions actually side with the Aussie team. A number of former England players and captains applauded Carey's quick thinking. The blight on this game is from the toffs in the Long Room. Shouting out "cheat" when there was no cheating and allegedly trying to trip Warner & Uzi. Bringing up sandpapergate, when Mike Atherton was caught rubbing dirt out of his pocket on the ball and then the Murray Mints CHEATING in the 2005 Ashes series.
The thing I find most annoying is the 'lost opportunity' and 'haven't moved past Sandpapergate' drivel, which Piers Morgan pontificated at the time. Just because Aus did the wrong thing 5 years ago, and egregiously so, doesn't mean that from then on - perhaps forever - they must play to some moral standard higher than everyone else, including their opponents in highest stakes competitive matches. Australia and the relevant players were punished at the time - rightly, and the team has cleaned up its act so that, one thinks, it will never happen again. That's enough, without Aus having to then play on some kind handicap system for 5 years or eternity thereafter
If a goal is scored in football because the goalkeeper "wasn't paying attention" during live play, it's a goal. If a batsman gets run out during live play because he wasn't paying attention, he is out. In what world are the Aussies the bad guys here? If the roles were reversed, the Aussie batsman would take all the blame from fans and media, not the opposition!
Thank you. Where are you from man?
Are you English?
If so, it is good to see some English people who are not like Piers and Boycott.
@@berranari1 I'm Australian with an English father. I believe in fair play and good sportsmanship, but I'm staggered by the reaction from the British media. The ball was absolutely still in motion, the batsman needs to protect his wicket and he let his team down. Piers just loves drama for drama's sake, that's why he's a Gooner 🤣
@@ThatGuy-mr2el He's a flog, n doubt about it. Its funny watching Brett Lee terrorise him in the nets. He gets 3 v 1 in terms of media bias; fox territory. Bairstow taking no accountability. The Poms deflecting the insidious findings on the report into institutionalised racism in cricket...nice try weirdos
@@ThatGuy-mr2el As an Australian and an avid follower of English football I'm not surprised by the British media one little bit. They don't care about the spirt of the game, just clicks and views. Lets not let truth and reality get in the way of moral indignation and an opportunity to profit 😂
Exactly!
If anyone was to blame, surely it’s the umpires who were each in a world of their own and didn’t have enough interest in the game to call over. Actually, the English team should be grateful to the Aussies for the controversy to take the heat off them for their lack of performance.
As stated by an Australian in the SMH and I quote:
Broad told Carey he’ll be “forever remembered for that” on the pitch.
Direct quote from Stuart Broad after not walking in 2013:
“Those things aren’t remembered,” Broad said at the time. “It’s winning a series that will be remembered. We do have a win-at-all-costs mentality. I think we’re quite an unpleasant team to play against at the moment. Teams won’t play against us and enjoy the experience.”CC
So we’re meant to believe the Poms suddenly value “spirit” over winning.
Pull the other one.
Sore losers.
All I’m getting from this is that England wants Australia to take it easy on them. Fat chance. 😂
5-0 incoming.
I remember showering the pommy cricket team with beer cups at Adelaide Oval as we sang “FOUR ONE, FOUR ONE” at them.
It was at a one dayer vs Sri Lanka(?), the pommies decided to walk around the oval as a team in their nice team tracksuits.
Great banter. 😂 they took it pretty well.
As a massive England fan. Australia were in every right to hit the stumps. If the ball hit the bat and went for 4 would we be complaining??? Does this bring back any memories? The World Cup.
As a Kiwi I blame the biased English officiating in the WC final, not the English team. But this is whataboutism and doesn't detract from the usual Australian cricket poor morality.
Well said
@@oldwight6703 🎻
The comments about the world cup are two totally different things 😂 both teams and empires are still playing and actively still playing over. This one empires are moving already and Bairstow is moving The only person playing that over was wicker keeper and even then I think it was an accident . Yes it was Bairstow's fault and should have waited for over to be called but the way they went about it was pretty poor.
Good on you mate
In 2019 WC finals, when the throw from the NZ fielder ricocheted off of Ben Stoak's bat and went for 4. Was it in the spirit of the Game ?
Shouldn't Eoin Morgan have refused to have those 4 runs added to the score?
He would be revered forever for doing that in the finals of the WC.
Instead they celebrated the so called victory which on paper wasn't even a victory (Scores were levelled).
1. Sorry means nothing. We’ve said sorry for sandpaper gate and it’s constantly bought up.
2. It’s not up to the batter to decide if it’s over.
3. Being sorry about sandpaper gate and wanting to play more fairly doesn’t mean we need to roll over in every 50-50 scenario and as much as the English media would like us to believe otherwise. This isn’t even 50-50. It’s clear as day.
4. It’s easy for Stokes to say he would have recalled the appeal if he was in that position but he wasn’t put in that spot and it’s likely this exact situation won’t repeat itself again for him. It does put him in an awkward position next time an “ethical” decision needs to be made though. I hope he chooses the right path (as opposed to punching someone like we know he’s inclined to do)
5. The Long room circus not as bad as Cummins not reversing an appeal? You’ve got to be kidding me.
6. You actually didn’t need an Aussie ex cricketer or any other expert on your show. Toddle off to your local oval and get an under 10s cricket coach to explain the rules.
Missing. No mention of how the catch that wasn’t allowed by Starc or Ollie Robinsons vulgar send off sits with the “spirit of the game”.
No wonder the posh lords crowd thought abuse was acceptable.
Basically Poms being Poms. Whinging and being hypocrites. And the gullible English sheep at Headingley will eat it up.
It has come to light that Bairstow attempted the same thing against Travis Head. When Head asked him if he would have taken the stumps Bairstow replied, "Bloody Oath I would Have". Putts things in perspective for Sir Geoffery.
Old stinky beaky Boycott a true paragon of moral virtue who utilised his ex-wife's head as a basketball.
That’s missing the point he’s making. His point is about keeping sportsmanship in the game, as opposed to what you see in football for example. Whether it’s for or against England or any player is irrelevant. It’s wrong whoever does it is his point.
@@alexmansfield8676 Yeah but of greatest relevant note, he doesn't say a thing when England try the exact same thing earlier in the very same series but missed the stumps, yet is now totally outraged and full of confected moral virtue and concern for 'sportsmanship' when Australia does it successfully. That selective morality isn't really in keeping with supporting 'sportsmanship' or anything else except his own blatant partisanship. Boycott is a totally gutless morally destitute degenerate who used to beat his wife, such types don't get to lecture others about anything.
Sir Geoffrey talks a load a bollocks
@@alexmansfield8676 Winning is everything ole chap, within the rules..
Piers predictably brings up the sandpaper but conveniently forgets the Murray Mints of the 2005 ashes.
Aherton had dirt in the pocket, John Lever used vaseline.
Piers has a selective memory. Just let him bark, that’s what he does best.
Or Bodyline ...
That’s piers for you. He’s always very selective. Let him bark as that is what he is good at.
Yes there was Brylcream, deliberate abrasion on ground , spit (pretty much accepted) Murray mints as you say, which is basically enhanced spit but none quite as well organised as Sandpaper, bringing the art to it’s pinnacle …. But..Who knows these days, where the spirit of the game is scoffed at by so many superior experts,perhaps some inspired creative genius will emerge to outdo the Aussies improvements. …and yes, (to those who feel I am biased)it could even be an Englishmen. Cricket is becoming to woke anyway. I preferred it when they had a beer and a smoke at lunch.
If England had won this test match we would not be talking about that 'incident' which was within the Rules of the Game...
Now if that's not WHINGING what is it ?
Any primary-school cricketer knows to stay in their crease until the ball is called dead.
You know who's tarnished cricket?
Bairstow is to blame, but so is Stokes for fuelling it, the crowd for swallowing it and the members for losing the spirit of cricket. As a cricket fan, it is that spirit that lifts us above all other sports. The ability to lose graciously, to win humbly, to follow the rules, to accept an umpires decision and to acknowledge greatness in the other side - Stokes and Smith - that is what cricket is about. The spirit of cricket was missing here - but not by the Australian team.
Stokes fuelled it?? Shut up. He was asked the question
Well said. Even if a decision goes against you , appreciate the moment. Got us talking about the great game. It's not football. I was sorry the England fans chanted cheat. We got a load of overs to win it, this episode didn't lose us the game, the play in the game lost it. Ozzy's , congratulations, we might get you next time. Well played
@@Aman-nk5uq Yes he fuelled it, he was asked the question and he could, and should've answered it by saying it was a fair stumping, which it was, instead he chose to try and have us believe that he would've done something different - yeah, of course he would we've all seen examples of his sportsmanship.
When you start playing cricket at about 8 years old we’ve all got out like that. You get cross, spit the dummy out and say it’s not fair but your teacher tells you to stay in your crease til the ball is dead and you don’t do it again. This is a schoolboy error, doing it at test level is beyond embarrassing!
First rule you learn. Every single ball, a wicketkeeper is looking for the wondering batsman.
Not according to Beaky Boycott who utilised his ex-wife's head as a basketball in his anger management therapy.
@@Winteriscoming... Oh lighten up and have a shower Geoffrey, even your own teammates wouldn't share a hotel room when you were on tour here Downunder. Standing in front of a fan and pissing at it doesn't qualify as taking a shower anywhere outside Yorkshire.
@@Winteriscoming... Far more sense than you babbling with some sense of moral virtue about the spirit of a game which you admit to having clearly seriously infringed yourself albeit notably without disclosing what exactly you did to get such a suspension and requirement to provide a written apology comparative to those that you feel the moral right to criticise. Hypocrite much there Beaky?
Even the coach of the poms ran out players in the same way and who on this beautiful green earth of ours takes anything that morally bankrupt boycotted says
“Bad losers, whining, whinging Poms” - new definition of being English, soon to be in the Oxford dictionary 😂
The only difference was Bairstow missed, Carey didn't.
So true
Absolutely
100 %😅
Good one!
You also see Stokes, returning to the crease.
Stokes KNEW the rule!
Bairstow only threw the ball because Warner and marnus were batting outside of their crease. The reasoning behind why he did it was completely different. The Australian batsmen were trying to gain an advantage by batting out of their crease. In bairstows case he was gaining zero advantage. It was bad sportsmanship not to withdraw the appeal.
Geoffrey boycott should be boycotted he hates australia speaks about spirit of the game in that case where was he when England won world cup by icc rules 5runs were awarded for the overthrow which should have been four Brendon coaching England irony
This is hilarious, Kevin Maguire Melinda Farrell were spot on. There isn’t going to be a tit for tat because you look behind and see that the ball has settled and then it’s dead. The ball never settled, brilliant stuff by Carey. Poor sportsmanship shown here by English
Kudos and appreciation only for Alex Carey for exhibition of such street smartness within the rules of the game.... If English cricket fraternity finds this to be "tarnishing spirit of the cricket" they should give up their World Cup triumph in 2019 and request ICC for officially recognizing New Zealand as joint winners as well... Pelting stones on your opposition is easy, especially when you have lost the game... England only came close to the target because of the extravaganza termed Ben Stokes... Otherwise, Australia clearly was the better team across the first 2 tests and rightfully stand with a 2-0 lead in the series... It's high time England stops weeping over the Bairstow dismissal and focus on how to get back to winning ways in the upcoming games....
The whinging pom syndrome. It’s what they do best. Let them be. They only make themselves look foolish.
Get a wash and a shave daft lad
This is what happens when England selectors shave an orangutan and call it a wicketkeeper.
That was the third time he casually wandered down the pitch he was asking for it. As a wicketkeeper he has to know this.
Why didn’t the English team say that starks catch was indeed a catch.. spirit of the game hey!?
Geoffrey, the truth was in 32-33, Australia refused to copy the English bowling. We had a bowler called Laurie Nash who could have countered this and Jardine acknowledged that had Australia replied in kind, Bodyline would have been dropped. You cannot equate Bodyline and Bairstows' stupidity.
In the spirit of the game, they should have shared the world cup with New Zealand.
This is hilarious! Bairstow tried exactly the same thing but missed... what if he'd hit and run Smith out??? What would they say then? Masterclass.
No he didnt
You miss the point. It’s not so much the act it’s the fact the appeal wasn’t withdrawn
And love how Piers interrupts her as soon as she starts speaking about it lmao
The English are being sooks.
@jameslong7128 right. Stokes would have withdrawn the appeal. That's definitely believable because England has a history of doing it? Remember the Elliott run out or Broad not walking after edging to slips?
The disallowal of Starc's catch the day before was an absolute travesty of justice as far as I'm concerned. The defence offered was "rules are rules, and we must abide by the rules".
Well, guess what. Bairstow's dismissal was in the rules. If disallowing Starc's catch was fair, then so was this. You can't have it both ways.
You are a legend for inventing the word Disallowal🎉
Quite so. Great word
Not only was Bairstows dismissal within the rules it's actually pretty normal, except at the elite level where batsmen normally aren't so dumb as to wander out of their creases while the ball is live.
Boycott is a disgrace the way he is carrying on.
England wil always whinge when something doesn't go their way, cos they are perennial losers.
@@ronaldosleftshoe oi, hang on. My phone's spell check facility reckons it's a real word.
What more could I possibly need?
Long-time cricket fan and writer/editor here. The "spirit of cricket" has always been a noble lie. Think about it: when did it actually enter the game? It wasn't there at its inception when Spofforth was punching Poms on the proboscis and Grace was steadfastly staying at the wicket even after being given out. In the 1930s this elusive "spirit" of unknown provenance was being invoked by the Aussie press as Larwood tactically tore the Aussies apart at Jardine's request.
For a while, bowling bumpers at tail-enders was frowned upon because it violated the fabulous spirit of the game, but this "unspoken law" was soon dispensed with if that tail-ender was presumptuous enough to flout that "spirit" and score a run too many. Once, Lindwall knocked a man out with a bouncer because he insultingly took block outside of his crease. Trueman was hardly a paragon of puritanical rectitude and was proud of it. "Mad" Jack Flavell didn't protest his sobriquet. He wanted to destroy every man be bowled at.
Let's test the spirit. What exactly has been the greatest threat to it - just so we know its location? What was the boundary situation? Was it the abovementioned Bodyline series? What Jardine did was within the rules. It was mainly the Aussie press who demonised and denounced him and Larwood, using the "spirit of the game" as their high horse.
Was it Vinoo Mankad in 1947-48, who noticed non-striker Bill Brown backing up too far? Instead of releasing the ball, he stopped and broke the wicket. He’d sufficiently warned Bill, having already dismissed him likewise in a tour game, yet the huffing press almost labelled it impertinence, ensuring his name entered cricket’s lexicon as a byword for dishonesty. But do you know why Mankad was so "impertinent"? Because he was sick of his own countrymen deferring to the Aussies and the English. Those who dusted off the "spirit of cricket" back then actually had their pens at the ready to criticise ANY bowling from those funny little Subcontinental people that amounted to more than a mere tribute offering.
Was India's decades-old doctoring of pitches a violation of this "spirit"? What about the West Indies' real and implied threats of on-field, and sometimes off-field, violence to batsmen all over the Commonwealth when they were at their zenith?
It seems that this "spirit" includes acceptable cheating. Adam Gilchrist was actually criticised by many of these same upholders of cricket's "spirit" when he decided he WOULD walk, despite being the only man on the field to know he'd nicked it. A batsman was actually somehow acting within the bounds of this amorphous thing called cricket's spirit when he never admitted he was out.
It's rather indefinable really, isn't it, old chaps, this "spirit"?
Honestly, Piers and Geoffrey and the Lord's members look and sound like dribbling, drivelling privileged Pommy prats when they long for a fantasy bygone era and talk about tarnishing a game that was never exempt from human nature, and ceased being some kind of pastoral idyll the moment men like Spofforth and Grace entered the scene, bringing spectators with them.
The profile of Australian cricket is good. Test champions, retained ashes in hostile territory and won the world cup as underdogs again in hostile territory so I think the Australian profile in cricket is pretty impressive ✌
Michael Vaughan said he would have done the same thing as Cummins. Strauss, Hussain and Atherton all said they had no problem with it. Bairstow left his crease prematurely the 3 previous balls and it caught up with him. Brilliant keeping by Carey. Cummins rightly upheld it. The only people who tarnished cricket were the Lords crowd.
Tow
I agree Aussies are winners
Dozey from Bairstow🥳
And the clown English cricket team, among others lol
In Australia we have some dreadful commentators but thank goodness we don't have Piers Morgan!
But you are welcome to him!
@@posh0610 Please No
He truly sums up all that is wrong with the English. World would be a much better place without him.
Great to hear Sir Geoffrey again. He should still be on Test Match Special but obviously doesn't tick enough boxes for it these days.
Aussies wound never revoke this as it was a key partnership that probably would have lost them the game.
I don’t think the aussies did anything wrong. Stay behind the line until the ball is dead. Johnny is known for walking out early. The keeper did it instantly in one motion, he didn’t wait. I normally agree with pears but he is way off with this one
They weren’t complaining when Bairstow was doing it, and ask Paul Collingwood how he feels about McCallum taking the high road on this when he did exactly the same thing.
McCallum is a great example, he apologised, Cummings do the same
@@joshuafield8224 well, to be fair, we need to wait 10 years . . . just like McCallum did. What's that? But this is different? . . . yeah, of course it is . . .
Such sore losers. England had done the same thing to Kris Srikanth in 1981. Bairstow tried doing the same thing to Australia during this test series and at the end of the day. Any action which is under the laws of cricket is by default under the spirit of Cricket. FULLSTOP
People who think it shouldn't be out have never played a game of cricket in their life. You learn this basic rule in under 12s. Trying to shift the embarrasment for a rookie mistake by saying "it wasn't in the spirit of the game" is a weak move.
And now we know even Bairstow tried the same trick to get Head out and the only difference was he failed😂
Really?? Is their a video of that?
@@scanspeak00 Yes.
Head wasn't walking up the pitch
@@gettinhungrig8806 Literally not relevant what Head's motivation was.
Only one of these teams' captains has ever been charged with bringing the game into disrepute, and it's not Pat Cummins
Or charged in a criminal court (and again it's not Pat).
Oh! Do tell?
Steve Smith isn't the captain....but go on
@@marynoonan6111 As reported at the time, "Ben Stokes knocked two men unconscious in a street brawl after flicking a cigarette butt at gay men he mocked outside a nightclub, the prosecution has said at the England cricket star's trial."
He was subsequently acquitted of affray.....
@@brendonl624 and following the conclusion of the criminal trial, again as reported, "England all-rounder Ben Stokes and batsman Alex Hales have been fined by the England and Wales Cricket Board following last year's brawl outside a Bristol bar.
Key points:
Ben Stokes was charged with affray after an altercation outside a Bristol bar in 2017
The ECB charged Stokes and Alex Hales with bringing the game into disrepute
Both players are available for selection for January's tour to the Caribbean
Stokes pleaded guilty to two charges brought against him, one of bringing the game into disrepute in relation to the altercation and a second for an inappropriate video, in which he performed an impression of glamour model Katie Price's son, who has a disability.
The 27-year-old, who was cleared in court of affray last August, was also handed an eight-month suspension."
You could have Googled it.
You either play within the rules, or you don't. You can't have it both ways. Feelings don't matter, facts do!
What abt fairplay in world cup final when eng got 4 of a throw hitting stokes bat..i don't know why this controversy is about..i don't think it was any faul play..ball was not dead..Johnny was casual ..carry was attentive..he immediately threw the ball as he collected..
There is NOTHING to apologise for, there was no mistake or cheating, the fault is with Bairstow alone... in World Class Cricket, rules matter, mistakes get punished & rulings will sometimes go against you / sometimes with you!
Well said. This whole point about "gentleman's game" is pointless. It's a competitive game at the end of the day and no rules were broken. Sounds like excuses being made for losing, typical sour grapes
Spirit of the game or don't you understand that? The same thing had happened twice prior to this final ball.
All we have to look at is how Australia will do anything to win. Underarm bowling, sandpapering the ball, and them crying on TV because they were caught, and now this. To compound it two Australian cricketers facing squaring up to two elderly members of Lords in the long room. How big and brave. Lords apologised for that, will the Australians apologise for anything.
@@sandwormgod4771 Australia apologised for the sandpaper. Did Broad apologise for not walking when caught? Did England apologise for bodyline?
Bairstow did something any amateur cricketer knows they shouldn't do. Yet he had tried to do the same thing to aussie batsmen twice!
Sanctimonious claptrack. You're player did something stupid and paid the price for it. Australia doesn't need to apologise for his stupidity.
@@sandwormgod4771 Three privileged members, thinking because of their status & age, they could say anything - as if the Australians would have made it physical! Hahaha
@@sandwormgod4771 what about English sport fixing 2009, (convicted criminal, that's real cheating), Pope NZ De Grandhomme, Board not walking caught 1st slip, I could go on ,& on you Pommy dosser
Hey Geoffrey mate, if Carey had of missed the wickets and the ball rolled to the boundary for 4 runs, would stokes have rejected the runs??
wow🙂😂
it's only tarnished by the ones who can't accept the discission by the ruling body, umpires in this case. The Starc catch/ non catch was accepted by the Australians , yes Cummings asked for an explanation from the umpires , regardless of his own thoughts , moved on, and did notcarry on like squealing pigs in a slaughter house. Alex Carey had every right to throw down the stumping chance, it's part of cricket from the under 10s park to the international arena. w/keepers are taught from an early age that this form of dismissal is within the laws of cricket. England, take a slice of humble pie and stop tarnishing this beautiful game
England needs to rid itself of racism in cricket and in general
Maybe NZ had felt the same that although that 4 off the bat of Ben Stokes while completing the run (2019 WC final) was within the laws of cricket, it might be against the “spirit” of cricket, and Stokes (and England) should have had said, we’re not taking these runs and we don’t want a victory like this. Guess what, the same England didn’t say anything, no TV shows about it, nothing, Stokes becomes the hero, and England celebrates. Time to take it back dude!!
Stokes did actually say to the umpires at the time to not give the 4 but the umpires said they had to.
How can you not take runs? 😂
Well said! I don’t hear Geoffrey ever mentioning that incident
Made good sense Geoffrey!
Well said
The Spirit of Cricket. (according to the MCC, short version)
"Play hard and play fair.
Accept the umpire’s decision.
Show self-discipline, even when things go against you."
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AUSTRALIA's cricket team - OK, in the 'spirit of the game' ... we have to suck up the Starc Catch ... We have to suck up that Lyons can't have a runner ... We have to suck up all those deliberately short deliveries aimed at Lyon's injured body ... We have to suck up that Bairstow was trying to 'stump' Warner and Labuschagne, despite them not leaving their crease or seeking advantage.
ENGLAND (players, MCC members, commentators and PM) - YES, Australian's SUCK and they should apologise to us for ... making us jeer them ...calling them cheaters ... attempting to physically harm them ... and being un-sportsman like - because Bairstow was caught short being an absolute numpty.
FINALLY. Someone with commons sense
Yep pretty much sums up the disgraceful bad sport poms.
Agree with everything, but Starc did not legitimately catch that ball. How hard is it to complete a catch without the ball touching the ground?
@@arvindhmani06 you miss the point. Starc caught the ball successfully. But it was not out due to the interpretation of the rules. The Australian team accepted the umpire's decision and moved on. Starc accepted that he needs to improve.
How about we dump DRS, get rid of third umpire, take players word for it that they held a catch, accept umpires decisions - even on appalling calls and leave everything up to the Spirit of the Game. Every club cricketer plays under these conditions every weekend. Why should international cricket be different. Either that or let AI govern the game. Simple, really.
It is astonishing how Australians have forgotten their history. In the famous 1882 Oval test Sammy Jones left his crease to tap down a divot and was run out by WG Grace. Cue Australian hysterics and whinging to the extent that F Spofforth stormed into the English dressing room to berate Grace.
Australian sportsmanship seems to be a hypocritical 'it's okay when we do it'.
As an Indian I love Australian people and we have great relations with the Australian government as well, but I absolutely hate the Australian cricketers, no ethics whatsoever.
Let's not get distracted from what was a great test. Bairstow switched off , Let's move on
Feels to me as if all cricket fans share this sentiment. Just the media blowing this up.
No lets
God this has been blown way out of proportion! 😂🎻
Tories needed a distraction. Now they can blame the Aussie cricket team for Brexit and recession.
@@waycam77ridiculous
Biggest sooks in the game. Can’t win at their own game 🤣
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And we bowl faster
It's those who have the least to say spend the most time saying it
Piers gotta throw dirt! Sand paper has nothing to do with the present situation! Bairstow needs to face the media and admit that he tried to do it but couldn't hit a barn door! Cudos to Carey for his awareness, skill in throwing down the stumps! I see him as a smart operator who knows the rules of the game!
Bairstow’s dismissal was within the rules of the game end of discussion. I did notice in the Third Test that he stood in his crease waiting until the umpires had called end of over, so he seems to have learned his lesson. On another note Stokes coming out and smashing 150 and then 80 was damn fine to watch, even as a Aussie cricket fan.
If you ever play football, the opposition goalkeeper suddenly collapses , would you kick the ball out or see it as an opportunity to score? It will be in the rules end of discussion😁
Bottom line. The keeper threw the ball in hope, Bairstow had not left the crease as he threw it and then without checking or reading the situation goes out of the crease when the ball was not dead. Ball hit stump and he was out of the crease. It was out i am afraid.
It wasn't pure hope, he knew what he was doing. Bairstow walked out early a few times on previous deliveries and Carey clocked on. It was a bit unsportsmanlike in my opinion, but hey ho, that's just me.
Indeed but not stumped but run out.
No one is doubting that Bairstow was out. BUT there was an opportunity to win over the cricket world by allowing Bairstow back.
No one has said he wasn't out. did you listen to Stokes
@@CrueLoafWhat for? Unlike England Australia seem to be playing to win.
If England had gone on to win that test match, no one would've cared.