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- Motorcycle riders of Ireland ride out en masse to try to bring attention to the problem of bike theft in Dublin & convince Government & Senior Garda Management to:
1. Give the Gardai the training they need to pursue bike thieves
2. Permission to engage & ideally, make tactical contact to knock them off the stolen bikes
3. Assurances that Gardai will be safe from prosecution (once proper procedure is followed) if the thief is injured as part of the pursuit
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Had a bike stolen years ago in Belfast, the police tried their best to prosecute me for it
"You where seen with no helmet riding aggressively"
Im standing talking to them with my helmet and keys in hand after calling it in
"Yeah but you called us at 9:40 and the bike was seen running a red light at 9.45, are you sure it wasn't you??"
5 days later get a fixed penalty notice
Have to go to cop shop and plead my case again, spent 5 minutes arguing over the intercom to be let in , finally get in and the twat at the desk thinks im just taking the piss
Pricks the lot of them , god help the next person that tries this 👍👊
Great idea lads, if there are any of these up north id gladly attend
I always have a hidden cut off switch built in.
Mybe cause bikes r so rarely stolen up north that the PSNI dont believe it
@@geordiegeorge9041Old Triumphs had that built in by Lucas 😂
You couldn't make that up.
I am in court at the end of the year because we were burgled last August l. I dared to defend myself against a gang of travellers who stole 5k worth of property from my home, later on I found my stuff being advertised on FB, I gave them the details of the people and they fudged that investigation too, not enough evidence apparently.
@ 09:30 this is nuts. The thieves KNOW they cannot be pursued but yet in London the police WILL pursue them even if they are not wearing helmets and WILL knock them off the stolen bike.
Yep, this is the kind of thing we're asking to be brought in here, as it's been so effective in places like London
Wasn’t always like that
@@TrooperTedsoon be the gov,mate they want them gone
In London the Police make more effort as the mopeds that were getting nicked were used direvtly in crimes - purse/phone snatching, jewellery store robberies etc. If it were just related to being driven off road for kicks they'd prioritise it lower. More to the point in London now, under the tories, these peaceful protesters would be nicked. It's scary how much freedom the tories are eroding.
Nah, it was a publicity stunt... They've stopped chasing again a while back. At best they only cared about the crimes that were being committed on stolen bikes anyway, they still couldn't care less about the bike thefts themselves.
The criminals are so protected these days.
The main problem is police not empowered to tackle them (here at least). Have spoken to a few serving members about it (some of them bikers themselves) & they've no support from on high plus if they hurt the little scrotes, they could be held liable.
They want to go after them, it boils their blood, but they need the training, policies & protection from prosecution to do so, hence us riding out trying to get the ball rolling
Bicyclists and motorcyclists together on this one.
There's nothing more heartbreaking than seeing the bike you spent so long riding and wrenching on gone.
i had my bike stolen by two kids in nov 2023 and I reported it to the police and then, within an hour of it being reported they closed the case saying they will not, not cant, they wont do anything about It, and its fucking annoying. cuz if I was to take anything from anyone id fkn be shot and arrested with no repercussion. its horrible, I'm only 20 It was my first bike and the only one I had and it put me into a mad depression, the dudes who robbed it have a tiktok page, showing off what they have robbed and I sent it to the police cuz my bike was on there, and they said there is no evidence of him taking it so nothing we can do.... ITS MY FUCKING BIKE!
They’re too busy checking insurance and tax discs 😀🤣 fucking lunatics
Name and shame the police force
I had very similar with Notts police. I work in retail and it's the same with shoplifters, we get made to feel like we're causing a nuisance in reporting it. They're absolutely useless.
@@dstev55 Yeah I was disappointed with notts police when my bike was stolen. Fortunately I had a tracker so they actually went and retrieved it within an hour - that I can't fault them on but I suspect had I not had a tracker they wouldn't have attended. The bike was ruined - the thieves wouldnt have been able to start it without the key or replacing the ignition and computer but they wrote it off ripping it to pieces trying. I could tell it hadnt been started because the tracker was still working and hadnt shown the ignition on until I gave the keys to my insurance who turned it on when assessing the damage. The police straight up told me they knew who had stolen it but didn't have proof....even though it was found in their yard, along with two other bikes stolen that day and even though there are a million cameras where it was stolen. There was even an article in the notts post praising them for finding 3 bikes stolen that week....no, my tracker lead you to an easy win, but you closed the case after a few weeks and I got nothing but an insurance pay out and increased premiums. I loved that bike. Trackers are great and I highly advise bikers to get them (proper trackers with real people monitoring and liaising with the police) but they wont return your bike to you as you left it, and apparently wont get the thieves arrested when caught.
seek your own justice, that’s how we do it in the country. We call it cowboy justice.
Police been ordered to address their efforts elsewhere, theft of bikes,pushbikes and shops etc etc is seen as minor to the police.🤬
So true
Then maybe we should be allowed to install boobytraps? Going too far? Potential pitfalls in the plan?
Stop talking rubbish lol
@@connorwilson8078 rubbish lol, all they’ll do is give a crn number… IF it’s asked for…
How is stealing £13k minor to the police, that is the price of some bikes out there.
The thieves know they'll get away with it from the police the courts and if they go to prison it's only a feather in their caps. It's time Ireland had some sort of "protect your property" laws with no loopholes. Draconian it may sound make it watertight and just enact the laws needed.
We need this sort of protest in the Uk. Absolutely shocking over here, the okd bill can and do catch the little scrotes. But the PCS decide not to not charge the lads. Great example of it near me, bloke called TJ has been caught 10+ nicking bikes and also assault but never seen behind bars. Absolute pisstake
I see your TJ and raise you 'Kevin' who was in court recently with 44 previous convictions for robbing cars/bikes, was let go & caught in the middle of robbing a bike THAT EVENING, wearing the same distinctive tracksuit he wore to court that day!
45 convictions now, still roaming free
Courts always let the police down
Look at what happened in Cardiff. Someones darling boy dies after falling off a bike, the Police get blamed and the riots follow. Why would any Police officer risk losing his job and potentially going to prison for a stolen bike he or she didnt steal?!? That is the real problem.
They are given almost impunity in these situations. They are allowed to knock a suspect of a motorcycle ever since it became commonplace to, when being chased by police, jump on a motorcycle with no helmet in the hopes the police will not chase you. Now, the moment you fail to stop, you are accepting all risks you have brought on yourself.
@MetalFan10101 in an ideal world yes. We don't live in an ideal world. I live in the UK where the actions of the officers in London although initially sanctioned as "Op Scorpion" and led to the viral videos of which there are only a few and are no longer condoned by Senior Management. You ram a bike thief off a bike and you are prosecutable. The officer will not be supported, they will face prosecution and will be publicly named in the press. The offenders right to life is deemed more I,portent than the officers right to do their job, prevent crime and detain criminals.
Gone quiet that one eh. Stolen 4k emtb in possession of children chased by police and police under scrutiny and thousands £ of damage by rioters. They also attacked people in their home on that street
Great awareness video. I’ve been shocked by how open they are to steal in broad daylight, in busy areas to locked bikes. I’m afraid to park up in town now. It’s awful
Same, I don't take the bike into the city any more for social things unless I can keep it in sight at all times
2 bikes stolen outside my house in Stoke-on-Trent in 2 years. Police didn't give a fxck was just given a crime no. They didn't even ask for any cctv footage they just asked could you see their faces.
Sorry to hear that Kevin, an incredibly frustrating experience
Question, in Ireland, what if the scroats came to your property, and you went outside with a weapon, to defend your property and yourself?
In.England, if you dared to attack the little darlings, you are more likely to get arrested...
I was at my local tire place having my tires replace on my car and got talking to a biker, he had a scruffy FJR1300, he told me he was a motorbike courer, I said, would you ever consider getting a newer model?( His exhaust was rusted as hell) he said no... He asked me what bike I owned ZZR1400. Look at your bike and look at mine, whose bike is more likely to get stolen..
Pitiful, that its come to this..
In the North and south of Ireland you can't protect your property by arming yourself with anything.
But often, these criminals get badly injured when they have fallen outside your house on the pavement. Sometimes they get multiple wounds as they keep falling when they try to get up.. awful thing when you can't even stand up 🤐
@@evelghostrider 😆 🤣 love it 👍
I didn’t know , that there’s that kind of thefts happening in Ireland. They tried to steal my triumph tiger in Edinburgh, in front of the hotel with cctv , when I was there in holiday in 2019. Definitely a huge problem in Scotland too. What a shame 😢. Greetings from another trooper 😅. I hope it’s sorted out in the future.
Thank you fellow trooper 😆
Yes, hopefully things change both here & in Scotland
Petition signed. Couldn’t make it out to the protest as I was in hospital 😢 my bike was robbed by said scrotes before Christmas and they made absolute shite of it. I had a tracker and got it back, but only because I had a connection in the Guards. The worst part of the whole thing was my test was 2 days after the little scuts robbed it and I had to cancel ☹️
Sorry to hear, on both accounts.
Fingers crossed you're not waiting too long for a retest
Deadly Video Alan, thank you for your commentary, some of us were supporting from afar…
Every bit of support counts Nugzter!
Thanks to the organisers of the Protest for giving their time and effort - much appreciated. As motorcyclists are only a tiny percentage of Irish road users, I doubt if the Government or Gardai will do much about the problem (until someone is killed). But better to do something than nothing. A good turnout but could have been a lot bigger and ALL motorcyclists should be supporting the organisers (and not waiting until THEIR bike is robbed or damaged!).
Petition signed. Totally agree with the point here. In addition for those inclined I noted personal letters direct to local TD/Minister are also effective - so is visiting the local TD/Minister clinics in person with a copy. So the Minister can see the levels of support which is significant, from responsible, often middle aged, folk - include myself in that (dont know how responsible but definitely middle aged biker!!). Great vid btw.
It won't change because the Irish Government and system has gone to pot. You only have to look at the laws passed recently.
Good video man...I'm also a victim of motorcycle theft and couple of attempted thefts here in Dublin....it horrible lately
Very sorry to hear that mate, agreed its gotten out of control lately, hopefully this is the start of things changing
but how is this going to stop the bike theft
@@8alakai8 If the Gardai get the training & support they need to tackle bike thieves, thefts will decline dramatically. Its currently rampant as they're getting away with it cause once on the move, they know they can't be touched
I had 2 bikes stolen when i was a kid and i really hurt i never got any more so i hope they get caught by the owner and they get good justice
The biggest thing you can do is don’t leave your bike outside. You may say well I don’t have a garage? Bring it inside your house. I keep my bike in my hallway, sure it’s a pain in the arse getting it out for a ride etc and it gets in the way in the house but I’ve got 100% peace of mind it’s never getting stolen.
You've just given me flashbacks to when I was renting a house with friends & I kept my ZX10R in the hallway/sitting room 😂
@@TrooperTed😂
Did not know this was happening or I would of joined but as a biker who lives in Dublin I know all too well what a problem this is. I never park up in Dublin city centre because I know the issue is so big. Good on ya lads!!
Similar Kaya, I used to go into the city centre on the bike to meet friends for coffee or dinner etc. but stopped that when things got as bad as they have.
I'm sure I'm not alone in this
I love it when there's a large biker gathering like this. Everybody serving a common purpose. A true brother and indeed sisterhood 🙏
Good on you. Respect from London, UK 🇬🇧
Never heard about the protest until after the event. Live in Connemara, but would have attended.
I'm in New Zealand, i signed the petition gladly.
Great to you guys stand up.
I worked as a motorbike courier for ten years to pay my bike off and cant imagine how devastated i would be if someone just took it.
I guarantee if they stole a police bike they would stop at nothing to get it back.
Some lovely bikes there all the same! It does my head that we're a supposedly wealthy country, but can't even adequately budget towards fielding an effective force or change legislation to tackle these issues. The aversion to any progress by the government is maddening. I don't even bring my bicycle into town anymore.
My mate from Germany has TWICE had his motorbike stolen from Portobello, Edinburgh, both times from outside the same Hotel. It seems that Edinburgh is a hotspot for bike theft as well. His mate was laughing at him with the amount of security he had on his bike the night before the second theft took place but wasn’t laughing the next morning when the bike was gone. Incidentally, there were two bikes parked, an old Motoguzzi and a brand new Triumph Speed Triple RS. The Guzzi was left, so looks like stolen to order. Police said it’s probably already been broken up to sell on. Mental that despite it being a known bike theft area, nothing gets done.
Bloody hell, did they cut the security or just lift it into a van?
Sounds like a good location for a bait bike.
@@TrooperTed there was cctv of them lifting the bike into a van. It took literally seconds from the van pulling up, loading the bike and leaving. Obviously had seen the bike there earlier and were well organised. Absolutely a great place for a bait bike but the police seemed to be very lackadaisical about it saying it happens all the time. Crazy! Very frustrating. He will never stop off there ever again, he avoids Edinburgh now at all costs.
Multiple groups operating in Edinburgh and surrounding areas all competing against each other. I found that out the hardway as well unfortunately
@@cryptohappy66 sorry to hear that mate, scum
Bikes don't last 5 min in Edinburgh..horrendous..
Sorry to hear that, is it for the same reasons we have here? Police not allowed chase/knock them off the bikes?
Really? I commute in and out of Edinburgh on a bike and have never had a problem.
@TrooperTed we are lucky that the law has changed and police here are allowed to bash motorcyclists off bikes regardless of if they're wearing a helmet or not now.
Petition signed,all the very best...🏴
Had no idea things had gotten so bad. Here in the Isle of Man we, thankfully, don't suffer this much at all. Maybe a couple during TT. Hope you get the measures demanded.
Wait till the foreigners get there. God save the UK
@@Brad96Bike theft has been a huge problem in Ireland since well before the first darkey landed old bean .
@@Brad96The only god in the Uk now is an allah.
Thanks for posting this. Last wednesday my bmw was taken in dublin. Recovered but damaged. Thanks for flagging this. I cannot bleieve there is such an epidemic of it
years ago a guy had a lot of parts from his Harley chromed at a chrome shop. Parts of the bike, chassis, and fenders, and parts of the engine. Each part, he would have his social security number etched into that part for identification. back then in the 80s that wasn’t as big a deal as it is today about SSI numbers..
his bike was stolen after he got all his chromed parts on it, and he had been riding it for a while
years later, he goes to a motorcycle swap meet. Lots of chromed used parts, laying out on the ground and on portable, folding tables. he finds a part with his Social Security number, etched into it..
he contacts the state police.. They investigate the seller, they search his house and his shop, it’s loaded with disassembled dozens of stolen motorcycles, the crook goes to prison for operating a motorcycle theft ring..
Clever! There's a similar system nowadays called Datatag, but the problem in Dublin is the bikes aren't being stolen for parts, but so scrote bags can ride the crap out of them and post them on TikTok before setting them on fire or tossing them into a hedge/river :(
The bike manufacturers should support this! I've not bought a new bike and refuse to reinsure my current bike because the insurance is way too expensive. I now ride an ebike insurance free, get to work tax free. Hope you get listened to and change happens!
The primary deterrent to any lawbreaking is the risk of being caught. Remove that and the law has no value. I ride a pushbike and a motorbike (also KTM adv). Wish you all the success mate.
Thank you Ronald!
It’s crazy too the way things have gone that the scrotes have so little fear of any repercussions whatsoever something drastic has to happen for the mindset to change 😣
That's exactly my fear, I don't want someone getting seriously hurt (or worse) to be the catalyst for change
No bike thieve should ever have their face pixilated while filmed stealing someone's bike. whether they have been prosecuted or not.
Best part is they don't bother hiding their faces on TikTok when showing off
Nice video, well viewed. And a good initiative.
I fear that unless bikers can organise to exercise the vote as a block politicians will just ignore these protests. The London Met are struggling with this too but here a lot of theft is to acquire a bike to commit further crimes.
Irs the same here in South Wales bud, MT9S mopeds s1 will get hurt,
Good on you ,safe riding, all the best from Welsh coast
The government and police don't give a shit about bikes or bikers,every biker has to up their security as its only going to get worse.
Agreed, shouldn't need to be that way but its the reality of the situation at the moment.
Go to Spain etc. and you'll see dozens of bikes/scooters parked outside apartments/offices (in bike dedicated parking!) and not a disc lock to be seen as they're not needed
Imagine having your bike stolen at a protest against bike theft.
You'd want balls the size of church bells to try! 200 pissed off bikers in a Garda corden waiting for you 😆
Police in Ireland too busy looking after the boat brigade
Same here in Newcastle on Tyne. Had my bike nicked from outside the supermarket. Took them less than a minute and the security guard ignored them from 20 feet away. Northumbria Police have no bikes because the Chief Constable decided in his wisdom that cars could do anything a bike could do..( Really??)..Must get over soon, used to live in Drumcondra...😊..
Was planning on touring the entire west coast of Ireland this year but being English with English number plate it simply makes my bike a target and the idea of a holiday is to relax not wonder if the bike will still be there in the morning so no touring holiday but I can relax at home instead 😂
I've said simialr to another comment below but worth repeating, don't let these scumbags ruin your holiday plans. The main issue is in Dublin but regardless of where you go, my advice would be the same:
Try to book accommodation with off-street parking
Bring a really good quality chain and whenever possible, secure your bike to something immovable like a lamppost
Ireland is an incredible country to tour by motorbike, especially up on the coast roads in NI and on the Wild Atlantic Way.
West Cork on a sunny day is paradise on two wheels
A pet tracker would be ideal, add to an app on your phone- B&M sell them £5 size of a watchface
Fair play. Pettition signed. They tried to steal mine but failed. I had alarm disc lock that they hemmerred in 10 seconds but Kryptonite chain on rear wheel surprised them so they gave up. Even if they succeeded to take chain off there was another Kryptonite U lock and both tyres flat because of slow puncture. Steering lock is broken and I cant turn steering right anymore so Ill need to fix that before Ill ride it again but for the future I think pump and valve tool will be extra security. Doubt they carry around pump too and it would take some time before they would inflate tyres and of course pushing it on flat tyres wont get them far.
First time I've ever heard of a puncture being used as a security measure but every little bit helps! 😂
@@TrooperTed well it woukd help right? Indoubt they would push it too far on flat tyred. Cheapest theft protextion. Andnif you take valve cores with you thats even better. Doubt they walk around with angle grinder, hammer, valve tool, valve cores and pump. And if they do it will really take them much longer to remove all the locks and inflate both tyres. For sure not gone in 30 seconds. 🤣
Why would they care about bike theft when their goal is to ban all private vehicles. False flags are a reality.
Love seeing riders unite and support the cause. But I don't wanna give control freaks more power to violently target, when they wrongfully target regularly and get away with it.
I want better self defense laws, police and courts should be able to give a direct answer on what constitutes self defense, and what level of force a civilian is allowed to use to protect themselves and their property.
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You should be allowed to be responsible for protecting and retrieving your own property, and if you target the wrong person unjustly you should face the full consequence of the law just as the officers should.
Police shouldn't be expected to permanently maim teenagers, for stealing something replaceable, because we don't want to take responsibility for the security of ourselves or our vehicle.
Let's stop paying these insurers thousands for nothing, let's put that money in the bank, get 3rd party only, and cover our own losses.
Not only is the incentive there to be responsible in where and how we leave our bikes, but watch how fast insurers will drop prices.
My friend left his bike out quite literally yesterday and got it stolen after buying it brand new, he left it outside for 1 hour came back outside and it was gone.
Was at the protest too👍
Good man, thanks for coming out!
Is bike theft really this problematic and easy? I’m speaking from lack of experience tho I feel my bike is tampered with when parked. But as far as it being stolen, Implant an Apple AirTag tracker an I even use a sleathed chainlock to lock up the back wheel and I also use the factory handlebars lock. Granted my bike is 500lbs and not as attractive to steal but I just can’t help but think to myself..”are these people struggling with bike theft putting in real effort to prevent it?” genuine thought
You will never prevent a theft if they want it. Yes you can make it difficult so they move on to one less locked up.
As for adding air tags, that does not make police goto the location and knock the door sadly. They will normally just leave it, or suggest you contact your insurance as that's what it's for.
Because they know its alot of work with zero outcome even if it goes to court. As almost no punishment comes to the person who stole it.
Steering lock and chains don't do anything, they're have all the off in seconds, and steering locks can just be kicked broken
Petition Signed, Yep not surprised plenty of crime no punishment, that is Ireland, softly softly wouldn't want to offend anyone. Get's me so angry sometimes. Elections are coming :-).
My MT10 was stolen in April 2019 and the UK police didn’t even attend. I installed a CCTV system and within a week of my bike being replaced they triggered an cctv alert where they had returned for the new bike. They broke 2 cameras. Thankfully due to heavy security, I have had peace for 5 years now.
Crazy the lengths we have to go to so we can keep what's ours!
Is the problem confined mostly to Dublin, or is it the same all over the South?
The TikTok twats are Dublin based, but unfortunately bike theft is also a problem in other parts of the country. I believe it's gotten really bad in Cork as well
More protestors here than protesting illegal immigration
People say illegal immigration is the cause of thefts and criminality. But as you can see on these videos all the criminals are blue-eyed snow white redheads, so... 🤷♂🤷♂
A clear consequence of law abiding citizens too fearful of the consequences arising from reacting to and against non-law abiding scumbags.Surely one way to petition the system is to take the law into your own hands. The prosecutors will be left with the choice of prosecuting good people defending their rights, or bad people abusing the system. It will eventually correct itself. Don't forget, thats how these laws were established in the first place, by community creating them for the benefit of the community!
Sorry I missed this event, I'd have travelled from up north down for it .. thankfully in the north we don't have such bike theft issues as the south.
I see a direct correlation between uncontrolled borders and crime.
I used to own a 1982 Honda Ascot with a lock on the forks so it can't go in a straight line if it was stolen. It seems that feature is gone but it was from the factory.
Bikes now have steering locks but they're very easy to break. If you look at the TikTok video I overlaid @9:00 you'll see how quickly they can snap a steering lock
Bike and car theft is a massive problem in Australia. I had my bike stolen in Australia. They virtually ran my bike into the ground.
*some parts of Australia
In London about 50 bikes get stolen daily. Police does nothing about it
back in my days in ireland joyriders had there knee caps treated with black decker drill
Do you know what they used to do to horse thieves in the 1800? Good old days.
Sounds like Cars in Canada.
Have heard its gotten bad over there. Is it true the cops have advised people to just leave your keys near the door to stop thieves coming further into the house looking for them or is that just the internet rumour mill going into overdrive?
I live in the Bay Area, California and I thought it was bad here in Oakland and San Francisco but watching this it seems it’s equally bad out there.
Take your little friend with you if police do nothing about it why people tolerate those insects
some scumbags tried to steal my bike a week ago. they entered the garage underneath the apartment, plenty of cctv in operation signs is like nothing to them. they also tried to steal bikes from another garage nearby.
they didnt take any but they completely destroyed the ignition in mine and now its gonna take weeks to fix. its ridiculous :/
Sorry to hear that, underground car parks are like magnets to the scrotes, have the management company agreed to put in any additional security measures?
@@TrooperTed we've been at it with them, yes. they will have to do something.
whats more, yesterday morning i saw a bike parked close to where i live. when i got back in the evening a friend told me it was stolen. he has seen it and reported it to the guards but its an open area between a skate park and a big hotel and it was literally in broad daylight!
I used to study in Dublin for one and half year and I always ride dirt bikes and super moto since I was a kid. So I thought yea I could buy some cheaper old bike just to enjoy my hobby cause I was kinda missing riding, so I did and in 4 months my bike was robbed from the back of the house I was living in, from the house of my dads friend in Balbriggan. Dont get me wrong this can absolutely happen in Sweden as well but I always left my bike in the back of the house when there was no space in the garage and stuff, covered it and locked. Everything was reported to Garda but they did absolutely nothing, very rude guy show up, took pictures and left, also fair to state this happened like 8 months ago.
Very sorry to hear that, it has been steadily getting worse the last 18 months
So glad I’m in Southern USA. Messing with someone’s bike here is likely to get you killed. It does happen in downtown areas but in burbs, not to much.
No such fear here I'm afraid, which is why they're on such a spree lately
Needs protest like this against banning ICE bikes.
Any bikes nicked during the group ride? Serious question. … you all definitely gave them a good look of what’s out there … Ride safe! ☮️
200 pissed off bikers under Garda escort, you'd want balls the size of church bells to try & rob a bike from there 😆
You seem to be following Britain, where all kinds of crime have risen. Even very serious crimes not properly investigated, but the smallest whiff of vigilantes taking action to stop it and they are on them like it is a police festival. Suddenly there is no shortage of police, there are loads of them stood around, much like when they stand around protecting the just stop oil protesters from being dragged off the road (assaulted). The world is going mad.
10:00 that single incident with the three lads in the car caused a SIGNIFICANT reduction in burglaries across Leinster. Silver linings.
I do wish they'd take on the Met's approach of pursuit even if they choose not to wear a helmet, at that point it's a decision made by the suspect, not the Gardai, to raise the danger level. But yes, first off they NEED the Gardai to go to pursuit training. Which means they need more Gardai to cover the training days, which theyre not getting because it is a thankless job that pays f-all in the grand scheme.
The cost to insure some bikes is unaffordable simply because of the thieves. Utter scrum.
This is interesting to see in video and comments saying that London has sorted it out. I would disagree. Yes, maybe the situation improved, but it's still bad. Moreover, London keeps changing stuff. I can't record exact timeline, but the permission to ram was given some time ago. Then there were some injuries, and they removed this permission. It took years for London to return back to this permission to ram thieves of their bikes again. I think it will be removed soon again.
Plus, this is just one tiny aspect. The one they care so much. What about actually tracking and finding the bikes? Like they are filmed on Tik Tok, why they can't go and collect bikes?
Thanks Povilas, good to get input from someone in London where I thought the tactical contact had drastically reduced the 2 wheel crime level. I don;t know any bikers in London so relying on news articales etc.
To answer your question on tracking the bike and going to get them, in the interview Aoife gives to the news crew at the end of the video, she alludes to why they couldn't recover her bike, it was in an area so rough, unless you went in in big numbers, you'd get attacked and driven out of the area.
The cops would rather go arresting people for memes and "hate speech" than actually tackle any kind of crime.
is that adobomoto? 0:45 on the right of the screen with the hood
Thank you for this video, I have now canceled my week long motorcycling holiday in June to northern Ireland from uk😔
And this from France. . . I visited Ireland by car last year. Love at first sight. I had contemplated returning this year on the bike. If it can be stolen in broad daylight with total impunity, and there is no deterrent, it's simply not worth the stress or the risk.
@@m2menuiserie540 I agree, it's just not worth it.
Thought I'd replied to this earlier but basically, don't let these scumbags ruin your holiday plans. The main issue is in Dublin so you'd be fine in N. Ireland but regardless of where you go, my advice would be the same:
Try to book accommodation with off-street parking
Bring a really good quality chain and whenever possible, secure your bike to something immovable like a lamppost
Ireland is an incredible country to tour by motorbike, especially up on the coast roads in NI and onto the Wild Atlantic Way
@@TrooperTed i get what your saying, it better to not risk it then to risk it.
@@spencerlucas5835 I hear you, hopefully things improve in the near future and you'll get to enjoy my country on two wheels
Understand your pain, England/London is the same problem and we are the ones paying the price in the end with high insurance premiums
I regret selling my Suzuki RGV250 VJ21 Wolf in 2019
hah , i regret selling my RGV250 VJ23 a decade or so ago .
If they want to play g.t.a then let’s play g.t.bas…. Thought the local m.c would deal with them or is it that they help them.
I am absolutely sure after your protest the things will change.
I’m new to bikes and had my ER5 stolen and found in Finglas in bits. Had a guy reach out who had his two bikes stolen, had pictures and names of the lads who did it. BTW I keep seeing these big bike groups and I know this one was a protest but how do I get I involved?
Hi Darren, I found out about the protest on the r/motoireland group on Reddit and Motorcycles Ireland group on Facebook.
If there's to be another protest I think I'll do a video in advance to try and drum up any many bikes as possible, so keep an eye on here as well!
@@TrooperTed thanks man. I gave up social media so maybe I’m missing out on this updates. Do you know any groups that just go for spins in general?
Check out what South African police do!
Contact the police about your motorbike getting stolen and they give you a crime number over the phone i was disgusted and end up dealing with it myself
Did you get it back James?
Wow, I never realised it was such a problem in Ireland. Shocking. And this shit about threat to life is absolute joke. It panders to the offenders victim culture, bawling and whining if they get caught and hurt in the process of their scummy ways.
the sad reason is, if the police and gov do nothing the riders without brains will make it law for all bikes to have trackers. Trackers need to stay the option of the rider, they are cheap and easy to hide, lets do it ourselves before they make us do it.. at least it will be on bikers terms not theirs.
The problem with trackers, is they can be flawed..
A tracker will find the vehicle, but how do you get it back ? As you will most likely be the person arrested for trying to get your own property back.
@@evelghostrider Here my issue with trackers..
1, They're not always reliable .
2, They can weaken the battery..
I dismantled mine...I didn't think the yearly charge was worth it..
@@snakeman9902 but they are cheap enough now to be a good tool in these situations. flawed yes but knowing where something is... important.
@@evelghostrider by going there and finding it then call the police, safety in numbers if you have 10 biker friends with you. The whole point of having groups and a community is to win by the numbers.
I was thinking to my self, that sound like Alan. Sure enough 😮. Signed the protest last week, wish I could have been there though.
Hi Sutty! 😆
@@TrooperTedgood turn out mate
How many bikes were stolen during this protest?
This one of the reasons why I have a cheap bike. (only €700)
constantly having to look around my shoulder really isn't worth it for me
There will be twice as many robberies now that you explained all the facts about how untouchable they are.... are you for real mate...
It was already out there, they're on TikTok every day showing off on the bikes they rob and how they did it, my video is a drop in the ocean compared to the views/reach the thieves are getting so I'm not worried
Random remotely activated bait bikes with an airbag under the seat.
Both effective AND hilarious if caught on video 🤣
Shame the bikes number plate was so small, else i could have reported it....!
Bikes are not wanted by the government.
Going by the fact they don't seem to consider bikes in any kind of future planning, I think you're right
My motorcycle was stolen 2 days ago, still waiting for a call back from the police
So sorry to hear that, its an incredibly frustrating experience
Probably foreigners 😢 😊
Lads that are responsible for the vast majority are all Dublin born and bred
I had two robbery attemps last year my ktm 125 rc and a £4000 scooter, There tried to rob my bike in broad day light in front of witness, there are gangs of young teenages going around on these e bikes serons wearing balaclavas robbing everyone. I live in bristol
How are the police in Bristol dealing with them? Are they even able to tackle them?
@@TrooperTed They did try to help on the phone, I tried to get some cctv footage from a nabour but there was a bush that blocked the view, so the police said there is nothing they can do. About 5 weeks later I was riding my brand new e scooter that cost me £4000 , at 1.00am a car clocked me and started to chase me it was very scary as he was right up my ase trying to make me make a mistake so he could rob the scooter, I manage to get away from him by going up a lane, but when i got home and looked out my window 2 more guys on those e bike serons where going up and down the lane and the guy in the car was going up and down the road looking for me.I always fill nervous now when I go for a ride. It's getting crazy out there😒
@@escootersfpvrides2723 that sounds insane & scary af, stay safe out there mate
@@TrooperTed You too buddy.
lol bike thieves gonna come to their senses and feel bad and will stop after a protest 😂😂
That very night I stole the entire lot of bikes and made a useless sculpture out of them. No one bought tickets to my art show. Mama said ''don't give up''. then said ''where the fuck did you get all this shit!? this is enough ! I'm calling the POLICE!'' I screamed and screamed all the way to jail.
They should also make it illegal to sell petrol to someone on a bike that doesn't have a helmet with them just to make it a little more troublesome for them
You can legally ride a motorbike without a helmet though. Well if you know how to get around the legislation of it.
I believe as I was told when I did my CBT only Seeks don't have to have a helmet due to there Turbans
100% correct
In our society you can identify as any religion you like. As no one can question you about your faith.
Providing your wearing the turban, there is zero an officer can do. Now as its Northern Ireland, they will not understand this an still stop you. But your 100% legal if your wearing the turban.
How can an officer prove your religion when they can't ask you any questions about it.
@@evelghostrider Its actually simpler than that, all petrol stations are private businesses and they reserve the right to refuse service, so they could just choose not to sell to these lads.
I get asked at times to remove my head wear. I tell them it's not a helmet but a mask. And the mask is my protective barrier for health reasons.
I simply say I'm putting £10 of fuel into my bike, here you go. You don't need to see my face.