home made 78 rpm records
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- STOP PRESS! FEBRUARY 2016. BY FAR THE BEST LUBRICANT FOR EMBOSSING ON POLYCARBONATE HAS TURNED OUT TO BE WD-40. WHY DIDN'T WE THINK OF TRYING IT SOONER? In this video, we use a 70-year-old disc cutting machine, somewhat modified, to make 78 rpm records on polycarbonate plastic.More information on the machine, the recording styli &c. may be found at normanfield.com/index.php/home... . While most of our recent CZcams videos have been more or less ad hoc, this one is the result of several months considered research & collaboration with my friend Mike Thomas, and tribute must above all be made to the many people who have already made disc recording machines, usually scratch-built, which record on polycarbonate plastic. This is most often done on scrap CDs and DVDs, and at 45 rpm or 33 rpm, and, amazingly, in stereo! Thanks to their work, our task was made easier, as we record only in mono, at 78 rpm, and on 10" (25cm) polycarbonate discs, on a machine that already exists. May increasing success reward their efforts!
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I built one for a science project in high school back in 61. I used a cutting head from a local dealer that looked similar to yours. My was all acoustically mechanical . I knew very little about electronics. Over the years I was educated and got my EE. I worked for RCA for 35 years. In the 1930's RCA made cutting machines for home use, but I never saw one. You know more about records and cutting than anyone I've ever known of.
As a youngster aged around 10, (40 years ago)I had an old portable wind up gramophone, which I would use to make 'records' out of old washing up liquid bottles opened up and cut into a disc shape. I placed an old vacuum cleaner hose into the horn and stock a funnel on the other end which we could speak into. It worked surprisingly well!
Sorry, no; you can't ply these with a steel needle. There is only a shallow furrow, nor a real groovr, so the sund box just skets into the centre of the disc with the centripetal force.Best wishes toi you and your family, Norman,
Wow... this guy cut his own 78 rpm album... i didn't know you could do that. This is pretty awesome...
it's not an album, it's a single selection.
In an age that's moving so fast towards all-digital, something like this is remarkably pleasing, conceptually. I really like how the finished article looks, the clear polycarbonate is rather striking.
Not really. Humanity did understood its failure at recognizing analog sound, so nowadays vinyls and turntables are getting more and more popular. Many of a newest records are being recorded into them. Personally, I have bought modern audiophile turntable (along with whole analog system) myself - and old vinyls sounds even better than they used to back in a days.
@@foxhound4829 They're all digital masters. Don't get me wrong, I love vinyl. But it's not because of the "analog sound" - a sufficiently high sample rate digital recording is indistinguishable from an analog recording. It's the experience, it's setting a needle down on a that spiral to let it spin. It's fun. But there's nothing superior about it in terms of sound quality.
Why would I want to cut my own 78's? Because that would be freaking awesome!
Jack White, as you may know, has a huge shop in Detroit where you can cut acetate of live performance. It's also a worker friendly, non toxic environment, managed at great expense because Jack White is awesome like that. Really a cool place.
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I just found your channel! I have a machine that makes recordings, but I have trouble finding BLANK records which were once found in record stores when I was a kid. The one I have was an IBM "throw-away" that I recovered years back when I retired. I made just two recordings, but could not find anyone selling blanks. I also have a number of 78's made by people long ago that were a bit odd...with ordinary conversations recorded plus singing. I love listening to them on my victrola, but have never put them on CZcams. I mainly put on player piano rolls and also band organ videos. I learned a lot from your channel and am glad I found it!! Thank you!
You're an absolute legend Norman!
That is really awesome. I can't get over how relatively quiet it is. I've seen people do this that the surface noise was terrible. So cool. Thank you for sharing.
Loving this! I grew up in the age of vinyl, cassettes, 8-Track tapes and Reel-To-Reel tapes. I've always loved to watch the whole process on how vinyl records are cut and then pressed up.
Fascinating how-to video. The sound you've obtained from your home-made 78 is REALLY impressive. I think I'm envious! Thanks much for this informative presentation.
If only I had such a machine, I'd be making THOUSANDS of those in no time!!!
Lovely! Thank you, Norman for your wonderful video on cutting your own 78 rpm records.
Great video, Norman. I learned so much and it was really fun to watch. Beautiful final result too.
I was born toward the end of 1978 so I was fortunate to experience the record. When I was little, the record deeply fascinated me. Unlike the CD, you can see a record being played right before your eyes. Most of my original records were actually Disney records for children that are some what collectable today. They didn't fudge on quality back then either so they have deep color on a decent Hi-Fi system today that many modern CDs lack due to some sort of fear that you're going to pop your woofers or something. We still have my late father's Victrola that is still in good working order. Unfortunately, I don't think polycarbonate disks are heavy enough for that heavy needle and diaphragm.
recordscratching.
I've never had a desire to make my own 78s, but this is very impressive, and fun to watch. Thanks for sharing!
I've been watching this video several times now and I love it. I visited your great webpage (that has been one of my favourite sources when it comes to researching about 78 rpms since I first visited it 10 years ago) some days before and read about your project and thought that it would lead to a superb video and it did. If I had that disc cutting .... pardon embossing machine, I would empty Stockholm of polycarbonate plastic and do nothing else but making 78 rpms. Cheers!
Absolutely fascinating! You make it look easy! Thanks for posting.
I want to congratulate with you for this wonderful and informative video about cutting 78rpm records. Really interesting and inspiring!
Norman, i am from Brazil and learning some about cutting. i need to say i loved this video. Many thanks to spend your time to do this. Beautifull art. Regards
Glenn Johnson Love this!As a kid in the 50`s,the 78 was awesome and still is today.Well done
Thanks for writing. Yes, 'the old 78s' are a long time a'dying! Cheers, Norman.
Dear Mr Field: I really enjoy your videos. Your enthusiasm is infectious!
Thanks for writing - glad you like the videos; there are more in the pipe-line! Cheers, Norman.
One of the most educational and interesting videos I've ever seen!
That's unbelievable!!! Amazing!!!! Well done and thank you for posting!
Amazing result and great presentation. Good work
Absolutely brilliant! I salute you, Sir.
I love the way you present the item of interest in your videos. Yeah, your videos are on the long side, however it's worth watching them because they are well produced.
Sweet! I still enjoy some good old original 78's. Love this machine though. It sounds amazing!
Glad you enjoyed the vid. We're still very interested in the topic, and are currently helping a guy who found a similar machine in poor condition.Am sure it will work again! Very best wishes to you & your family, Norman.
agreed, that modulation at 10:05 gave me chills. congrats on the embossing machine. the record looks beautiful!
Many thanks. Yes, it turned out that track, 'Chinese Jumble' was arranged by a chap called Irving Peskin. He was a young aspiring trumpet player and arranger at the time, and made that arrangement as a kind of showcase, or exercise, for his talents. Although the record was never issued, it remains a great side. Not so many years ago, Peskin, then in his '90s, recorded some reminiscences of his early days - I think they are up on line somewhere. Cheers, Norman.
I love your videos, as always. But this one shines!
Norman ' you are amazing! Well done! Admirable work!
That sounds surprisingly good. Impressive!
Kind of you to write - thanks! When I (eventually) get round to it, I think it would be possible, with a heated chisel-type cutter, to actually cut a groove, rather than just 'plough a furrow' - sometimes it's quite difficult to get the replay sylus to stay in the furrow. All the best to you and yours, and stay safe! Cheers, Norman.
Thank you Norman. I have watched this video 20 times, or more over the past year, or two. Either on CZcams, or on my computer as a download....lovely. It makes me happy every time. I could not possibly afford to do this at home. However I so love the idea that I think it is about as cool as cool can get. Again thank you...keep spinning and Oh I am a subscriber too!
Just now finished reading the linked article - fascinating!
What a truly fabulous video fascinating I watched every second, well done!
Master.. Great vid,. i love how you enjoy the music!.. Greetings from Uruguay! Cheers!
Fantastic! A nice job, congratulations from Chile!
wonderful, wish i had my record in 78, had the honour of working with Chris Blackwell at abby road he made us a 12 inch ep. Was really fascinated by the machine there as it made the master cut.
I fully expected this to sound terrible but I was so surprised how good it sounded!
Wow - that's great, thanks! Still tinkering with it here... need to warm up the polycarbonate disc to maybe 35°C, coat it with thin spray of WD40, and have a heated cutting stylus... One day will have a major campaign on it! Of course, I should have used a modern recording, which would have sounded far better anyway 😀Cheers, Norman.
I've discovered how to make a material that starts off moldable and when dried, it hardens. What's nice about this is it is as scratch resistant as shellac 78s and just as brittle. When I cut a "groove" into it and put it on my record player for 78 seconds (equivalent to 78 plays on a gramophone), little to no material was scratched up. After watching this video, I realized that if I cut my own negative out of poly carbonate, I can use it to press it up against my "concoction" and let it dry. I'll see how the sound quality sounds then, and if successful, I'll use it to make my own "shellac" 78s. Thanks for the idea!
Beautiful ! good work !
what a cool process, awesome thanks
Wonderful, great video!
You are awesome Mr. Norman! This is so cool. I actually have a recordio record cutter with am radio and playback. You have inspired me to get it going. Thanks for a great video. From Arkansas USA.
Great dude!!! No more broken records!
Great video! Great tunes too!
i like youre style very much! keeping it simple but with all the right techniques, and eye for detail! really enjoyed your vid! (y)
Great job Norm!!!!!
OMG! Thank you for doing this. I would love to se this done for modern songs to play on Jukeboxes and Victrolas.
I'm learning about cut record. Thank you for this video. Happiness and success to you.
Glad you like the video. Yes - the basic principle is very simple; wavy sound wave becomes wavy groove in disc! The problem was to make it work! Wishing you all success in you studies. Best regards, Norman Field.
Awesome Job Norman - And Sounds Great Also
Hi Norman from Australia! I love your passion, especially when you are mid recording and in raptures over the California Ramblers orchestration! You are a man of my own heart and I would have loved to be there to witness the work myself. As a 16 year old in 1969, I inherited an old record cutter (sadly gone now) from an amusement park here and had a lot of fun getting better and better with "dubs" of my own and friends jazz 78s and my own spoken words. I even managed to convince the manager of EMI in Melbourne to sell me individual blank laquers as my meek apprentice earnings didn't stretch to boxes of 10!!! Another time, I found an old "Kedron Vibrex" machine and improved my technique. I am currently in the process of building my own ground-up machine now (happily with time from retirement) and have taken the unusual and perhaps masochistic step in making it an "acoustic" recorder! What fun! Norman you are a true inspiration. All good health and happiness to you and the UK collecting fraternity.
Hi Martin! Sorry for the delay in replying. I started to reply three days ago, but pressed the wrong button, & it all hung up. But no matter. I've found your original meassage so can reply. What can I say, except that you're doing great work, and I really like the idea of you doing mechanical (=acoustic) recording. Go for it! Pretty well anybody can do electric recording. I've dabbled a bit with vertical-cut mechanical recording, on soft wax discs, vertical cut. If I may ask, what wax compositions have you used? I've tried with beeswax plus ~10% Carnauba wax, plus 5% sealing wax, as a plasticiser. The results are rather unpredictable. Write again, if you want to, & maybe we can help each other? All the best in Lockdown - take care! Cheers, Norman.
Thanks for sharing that video! That is impressive! I wish i could find one to produce my own music on my own records!
Wow! I wish I had this capability! Excellent video :)
I´m 45 yo, but I wisj I had been born waaaay earlier, music and tech where so simply yet marvelous!!!! Thank you for sharing :D
That was an AWESOME video. I would love to try that. It sounded really good when you played it back on your turntable as well! My compliments. 6 years, 5 months and 24 days (but who's counting) until I retire from my job as an analytical chemist. I am definitely going to make a hobby out of this when I retire. Such an awesome video!!!
Hi Chris. Glad you liked the video! I've got another in the pipeline, rather simpler: recording speech mechanically, vertical cut, on a soft wax disc. There's not a lot you can do with it further than that - but it's *fun*! Cheers, Norman.
Wow. Beautiful.
beautiful work.
Nice man this is very educational.
Amazing... an award is due
Great stuff. As a 48yr old getting back into vinyl or shalack for the 78s love the tech video. Need a new set of curtains though unless you are a retro guy xx keep up the good work.
That sounds amazing!
Simply excellent!
Oh my god, that is so awesome! I would really love to cut my own records, that would be sweet. Well done - great video.
Great Video. Thx for sharing.
Amazing keep up this amazing work
Wow Innovation and excellent music thanks again Trig 4NNC
Wow! That was cool!
Jolly good fun! Now all we need is a shellac pressing plant.. Maybe someone will find the bricked-up and abandoned Warner-Brunswick factory or something like that one day.
As the grooves are embossed - what are the groove profiles like? Rounded bottom like a Pathe?
Fantastic. thank you for sharing.
An older person marint youtube videos, i get happy! :)
That's awesome. I'd love to try that myself.
graat job my friend beautiful video!!
i wonder why such a cool enthuziast doesnt have have millions of subscribers?
Website appears to be down, hope it comes back soon, and man would a system like this be wonderful....This has been a favorite video of mine for a long time & I look forward to being able to read up on it on the site. Sourcing a cutter these days is a pipe dream but one of these days....Great work!
respect norman
Keep up the good work sheerz cor
Fabulous video indeed - arguably one of the most interesting video that I have ever seen on your channel. You are basically following the footsteps of the many great Jazz reissue dubs from the 1930s and 40s, like UHCA, Biltmore, and the like.....Always fascinated to see a record cutter working - wish I can own one some day. I have read the whole article on your webpage and it is just as fascinating as this one. The painting you used for the label - John William Waterhouse's "Echo and Narcissus"- , is my favorite painting, so it even adds up more charm to this video. :-) Again, many. many thanks for posting this and if you have a chance, please post the transfer of the final result on this channel!
transformingArt I agree, most fascinating, something I never thought I'd get to see
Will it work for 33? Will the reduced speed just make it unlistenable? It is one thing to emboss 4 minutes of music on these plastic discs, it's quite another to put 20 minutes on that same disc.
Now you realy got me dreaming, this is great! thank you for this video
Hi John
Fantastic. Regards from Denmark.
Very Great Video!
FANTASTIC !!!
Absolutely fab. I love the thought of making my own recordings but on Cylinder. I have made some recordings using an Edison recorder and they are ok but not as good as they would be if done with some sort of electric lathe. There is a chap on CZcams in the USA called the Victrola guy that does this but when asked how he won't tell.
Anyway well done brilliant. Dave.
I don't even know why or how I stumbled onto this but it's awesome nevertheless. It's completely not my genre of music, and 78s are before my time but I'm reminded of Trevor Chaplin, of the Biederbeck trilogy, something not many people of my generation remember. Even if you don't like something, an appreciation of it is always nice and I like what this chap does, and his excitement doing it.
Quite Admirable!
Say, would the disks work on an acoustic gramophone? - Presumably it would be understandable it would require a harder-wearing substance though.
Fantastic video Norman! I also checked out your website and think its wonderful... this was probably the last push I needed to start collecting early records :)
+pannonianbrute Thanks for writing. Well, there's never been a better time to get into old time disc records! Whether 33, 45 or even 78 rpm, there are drillions still around, and, albeit sadly, old collections do come on the market at an ever-increasing rate. This means that discs that were once really hard to find, have got easier (& cheaper) than ever before. Good luck!
the sound is brilliant for a home made disc, i'm going to make one of these
All the best of luck. The basic mechanism, as you can see, is very simple. Cheers, Norman.
Cause its Frikkin' Cool.... Just got mine working with an alarm cloclk radio.. Just took thw two wires out for the speaker.. and jumped mine.. I cut some cd's to test them.. And i tried two 6'' disks.. Mine cut at 48.rpm.. It playes slower on the 70s Equipment.. But it works now.. All these videos helped.. thanks.. Cheers,,,
wow, excellent
Hey Norman,
are there Drawings and Schematics of the cutting machine? i would really like build my own one!
Great, great video !
Fantastic!
All I can say in wow. whats so amazing I can not belive my ears and ears this is just genius your hole video it shere left me speechless and on a 70 year old machine wow
This is absolutly facinating Norman, great job, I really enjoyed seeing this project.
73 (or should that be 78...), Tom Bewick
Hehe, I get it
That's pretty neat!
Excellent!!
Good job!
Out of all the videos,, i like this one the most. This guy is so cherry, I like watching this video repeatedly... This is exactly the video we need, will share it with steve on lathe trolls... This is a very informativ video..
All I can say is wow!
Wow! Very nice job, sir! (Y)
Amazing....
I like this cutter, what makes the lead out automaticly