2024 Elections | IEC to appeal Electoral Court ruling for MK party: MK's Nhlamulo Ndlela reacts
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- čas přidán 11. 04. 2024
- The Electoral Commission (IEC) says it's proceeding with its application for leave to appeal the ruling of the Electoral Court in favour of the uMkhonto we Sizwe party despite the court not furnishing the commission with its reasons. The commission has filed the urgent application in the Constitutional Court after the Electoral Court overturned the commission's decision to disqualify the party's leader Jacob Zuma from standing as a candidate in the upcoming elections. The commission had based its decision to disqualify Zuma on his 15-month sentence after his contempt of court conviction in 2021. Let's bring in MK Party Spokesperson Nhlamulo Ndlela via teams for a reaction...
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Nhlamulo you are doing a great job comrade. Viva MK
Yes, Nhlamulo I fully agree with u. IEC and this presenter are really confused. Why appeal something you didn't start. Fiisheeyee here.
Nhlamulo his contradicting him self very very dumb Zulu man
IEC are ANC cadres. They are taking the matter to CONCOURT, where ZUMA get jailed without TRIAL.
Exactly my concernt as well
Zuma deserves jail time
It's fine a campaign for MKP. Why not wait for judgement.
As MK Member I no longer trust IEC anymore
Bayaluthanda uchuku labantu yeerr
Yeh you MK members aren't very bright.
There's something called the law. And the fact that the IEC has to remind the Electoral Court to follow it is worryying.
IEC is proving to be a branch of the ruling party.
Why are they now trying by all means to fight MK Party?
IEC are all ANC cadres.
Somebody is pushing them and is obvious who's behind 😮
True.....
They receive money 💰 just to fight Msholozi that is all
𝙏𝙝𝙞𝙨 𝙞𝙨 𝙖𝙗𝙨𝙤𝙡𝙪𝙩𝙚𝙡𝙮 100% 𝙗𝙪𝙡𝙡𝙨𝙝𝙞𝙩
Ayanda is asking rubbish questions. How can you appeal without knowing the reasons
They should be independent the objectives should take it further not IEC now IEC look like they are the ones objected Zuma the way they are doing now
On day judgement was done,court withheld reasons,which will be given at a later stage. It simply means,now that IEC is appealing court has finished it with reasons
The whole thing just surprise.. This is a big shame as journalist asking stupid questions ..?
Ayanda seems to understand the difference between lodging an appeal and seeking clarity. Hence, his questions...
@@user-bk7hw8tt5c Read slowly what you commented on and understand it. IEC has a right to appeal. Zuma took to court the objection of being disqualified by IEC. Zuma won the case. IEC wants the decision of the court set aside. It simply means,back to square one. It wants to disqualify Zuma again.
The IEC is captured. The IEC is delving outside its territory.
For now no???remember they refused to deregister The Mk....where they made a mistake(big mistake)and no one talked about Capture...it was celebration...even now it should be still celebration....
@@user-ud4fc9lp4gits Playing with fire. They couldnt deregister the MK coz tht would've coused a Firestorm and seccondly this shows you that the Target is and was Jacob Zuma.
@@sibonakalisocele8323Legally speaking, Zuma shouldn't be able to run. Just because you like him doesn't mean the IEC has to agree with you.
This puppet aren’t news anchors but captured by Ramaphosa and Stellenboch
IEC is correct.zuma is s thief who brought state vaptire😢 and corruption
Ayanda come on how could you appeal a case without a judgement.
The Anchor is participating directly and being in the side of IEC.
Ayanda is coming with Newsroom Afrika tendency, try buy all means to protect Cyril and ANC.
The IEC is now loosing the plot. Which is deeply concerning. Why does it sound like there is an influence from somewhere phezulu....
THE PRESENTER IS CONFLICTED
Captured IEC by the ruling party their time over bahlulekile ukuphatha kunalokho bayasihluphekisa abahambhe
Wow Nhlamulo my respect to him , I have watch few interviews of him and real give him my full respect .
IEC nixova izwe ,nifuna izwe lingabuseki.
Siyanibuka nje
Can IEC and Zuma enemies allow people to choose Zuma as their own choice if they want him
ANC and DA always claim to be democratic but in reality they dictators
This SABC reporter is problematic.
May our creator protect MSHOLOZI & MK agaist all the enemies,❤MK ❤🎉🎉
A very clever boy Mr NDLEA
IEC is now behaving like a political party
SABC is always on the iec/anc side
The IEC is within Right and Light to go to the Constitutional Court. For example, “Remission of sentence is the reduction of the term of a prison sentence…the order of conviction and…sentence remains unchanged…”.
Ayanda was supposed to involve IEC as well so to answer for itself ...
This is weird and truly worrying, IEC has become political more than anything. Who's interest are they serving?
Ayanda it is wrong for the IEC to go to the ConCourt without the judgement.
The IEC should be waiting for the Electoral Court to issue the judgement or rather be asking for the Electoral Court to issue the judgment with reasons.
There is no doubt in my mind. Court has finished IEC with reasons by now,thus why the appeal.
Umbekile endawen yakhe Nhlamulo🤝🏾! Abendaba kuyavela manje ukuthi bachemile😂
Kade bachema laba. Manje sebaphumela obala.
This spokesperson needs his head to be examined. Anyone who is near him,please help. He must be taken to the nearest psychiatrist hospital,he is wandering at large. He can't manage his own affairs yet he wants to enter terrain of IEC. Zondo will never preside over the matter.
Ayanda Captured SABC captured IEC Captured. Viva MK
Zuma expelled Malema from ANC,tables turned he also kissed ANC goodbye.
Zuma did not fire Malema, you must check facts before writing, check who was in the committee that took that decision.
@@user-ot2uh5bl4c He was President of South Africa. Ramaphosa and Zondo did not sentenced Zuma to direct imprisonment.
@@tsekomofokeng182We have a problem with people like you, who have mouth diarrhoea Zuma and Malema are partners as we speak, why do you think he went to drink tea in Nkandla and here you're with tribalist tantrums. If you don't know what you want to say just shut the f up
IEC must be investigated and charged, Is Conflict of interest.
Ayanda comes from the well known captured Newźroom Africa
This election will be postpone because of IEC interest south africa need another organisation to run elections cause IEC failed dismal
Nhlamulo ndlela is doing great job
Why would IEC not seek clarity on a matter than is not clear?
The MK spokesman is raising valid questions....
South Africa is now Zimbabwe number 2 because of iec
No law breaker should become a law maker. This is the monster ANC gave birth to.
Tbh, I feel like he helped give birth to the modern ANC - twslsting it into something so far from what it once was. And now people will support him...
@@TD1237 I agree emphatically. Yet we must rally. We have no choice. Our litmus test is imminent. We should focus on hope. The majority, black and white, who want and deserve a place in the sun, have something precious. The will to live in a non racist, non sexist, non violent and free society, governed by ALL. No more one party state. In 1994 this is what we thought we would have with Madiba's dream.
It's sad of these Zuma's loyalists' naked desperation, including their so called spokesperson. For a moment let's juxtapose this electoral court order blunt as it is in favour of the IEC. It cud hv been an outcry tht these judges are captured hence they give order without reasons it is based on, citing it as a clear sign to exclude Zuma by hook or crook. Now that it's in their favour, all's well. The poor guy doesn't even want to understand that it's in the interest of free & fair elections tht clarity be sought from the constitutional court to close this vacuum tht is left by the electoral court which was supposed to be a concern even for the MK if reasons 4 the order on such an urgent & crucial matter. Absolutely no politics here. It's like someone given directions to reach a particular destination & in the middle of the journey comes across a crossroad at which juncture gets persuaded to take a route different from the one ordered to follow at the point of departure. So, simple logic will be to call people at destination point for the right route to follow. That's exactly wht the IEC is doing in order tht even in future it never get lost for the journey tht it undertakes regularly as mandated by the very constitution.
Honestly we cannot be lead by a criminals we all know about zupta thing
Ukhulunyiswa ukungazi lutho
Of course clarity is needed. MK should be happy it keeps them in the news with the victim status they want.
And happy that their sheepiish followers are going along with their story.
Ndlela totally failed to state what their problem is. This is a constitutional matter. The Constitutional Court should give clarity on Constitutional matters.
You are a clown
Bullies are being bullied
It is very surprising that the IEC is taking this matter for appeal as they are not even the complainants in this matter...moreover the reasons are not yet delivered by the Court...what is it that the concort is going to look at when dealing with matter if there is no written judgment in front of them if in any even it surprisingly allow the leave to appeal...the IEC in the first place does not have legal authority to apply section 47(1)(e)...I'm worried that the IEC is risking to lose its credibility...and that could be very dangerous for country...
IEC is no longer independent turn to something else
Ayanda is on the money! Every sane person will need to know reasons to that decision. Emotions aside
There's a difference between an appeal and seeking clarity.
It was unwise of the judges to give an order without reasons. Especially in that case.
but the judgement coming.
Indeed, nevertheless a little late. Hence IEC is taking the concourt route.
Why then not wait for the reason than rushing to get them from a biased hippo mnx
It is clear. They do not agree with the order given.
In the absence of reasons, they opted to seek clarity from the concourt.
@@SS-xt4kh it's political meddling and stupid but they must continue, they hate the indigenous stateman with all they their coconut brains it's known
That is why a civil matter was given a custodial sentence
This is a matter that really requires a chief justice of the country to be on the bench. CJ Zondo cannot recuse himself in benefit of a criminal. He is our top Judge and best legal mind in the country. The fact that Zuma decided to symbolically spit on his face doesn't grant Zuma a right to be now protected from facing him. He made his bed, now he must lay.
It's not Zuma alone who has a right to go to court. Well, done IEC🎉🎉🎉
Agreed. People are not taking the time to think about this logically. IEC is in the right here.
Zondo has privately given an instruction to IEC he wants to back up his previous actions
The sentence couldn't be reduced by president it could be reduced by the Judge let the IEC continue with their appeal is their right to do so
What is your issue with Zuma?
What right do they have if you can clarify?
@@richardmandulohe wants to take my land that has been allowing me a 1st world lifestyle...
Land belongs to African @@shafiyaalgiquadra1105
Are you saying the judge have more power to remmit a sentence than the president?
smells a rotten rate with this commission
Me too yazi
MK party supporters must not be shocked because this is what they used to do when they were in the ANC. South Africans must stop entertaining thr ANC and MK. My advice is that South African must vote other parties they think would bring change in our country.
Comments on this feed demonstrate clearly that there is zero understanding of Afrikan democrazy and economy, nor of SA justice system.
IEC , and ANC take this to their friend who will rule in their favour.
Mk Party and it's Tselane EXPOSED EXPOSED EXPOSED THANK YOU JESUS I WORSHIP YOU🙏🙏💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃💃
Exposed in what??
Fezeka, you are showing signs of not having a sound mind.
Come back here u r totally lost😂😅🤣
English is Englishing her, pardon her
@@busisiwemalunga9773 🤣🤣🤣
Imagine the levels of Appealing if Zuma didn't get this overturned... this guy appeals everything and accuses everyone of bias, now he wants to move on with things, the irony is uncanny.
Do to others what you want others to do to you, all of a sudden the pill is bitter. Zuma always appeals, when others appeal it becomes emotional.
Zuumi is nothing more than Bob Mugab reincarnated.
Viva the Gupta's!
Viva.
BTW, the Sofa should also wear orange.
This guy ignores the fact that there's urgency here. Time is of the essence, he knows very well...
Zuumi and the Sofa should both be wearing fashionable Orange.
Birds of a feather.
Ayanda you are captured
IEC is the part now. ?????
Anyone can answer mi?
If it's about clarity then it makes more sense to wait for the judgement. Why the rush. Ayanda l think you embarrassing yourself
why did the court delay the judgement on the urgent case....nothing the iec can do...but to rush to corn court
@@user-ud4fc9lp4gwhat are they appealing. What if the judgement is on something else other than the former president's alleged criminality
Judgement is about co-operate punishment....the iec was given rules...of which Zuma find himself have Brocken one....the rules must apply(no short cut)
The order asked for Zuma to be included in the list(without giving a reason)we think it in bases that the list was to be done the following day(leaving Zuma no time to appeal)if not included....
sekucacile lolukhetho alusoze lwaba olukhululekile...
The IEC will issue its judgment. Normal procedure. Wait until the Electoral Court issues its judgment.
Any person or organisation is aggrieved by the order of any court,they have every right to appeal to highest court. Uttrances of dom of MK party members leave much to be desired just a month away from electoons.
Firstly, wena balu ndini, you should learn how to write proper grammar, then you can be at liberty to call other people 'dom' wena clever black.
Naze nangabi nayo inhlonipho shame on you
Why go to constit court for electoral court judgement/reasons when you can approach the same court to deliver the reasons of the court order urgently. The electoral court never refused to present reasons except that thry could not do so when they were pressed for time to deliver judgement.
Nhlamulo is speaking crap
Did this reporter go to school?😅
Journalists r still going to have a feast on this spokesperson. If I was leadership, I would send him same direction as Khanyile.
Yes he is taking iec position
Ai uCyril ufuna ukuphatha ngekani.
😂😂😂😂😂😂 Nazo!! We watching 👀
Here we are talking electoral issue, Nothing to do with Zondo. MKP clutching at straws...😢
It’s like they are requesting the con court to compel the electoral court to speed up making a judgement….ai the case law is being messed up by people’s egos in this country.
Studying law will be interesting in the coming years
Why are you asking quetions if you have answers
Jacob Donald Trump Zuma pedlars of alternative facts
Why do you ask legal questions to an uneducated person when it comes to law.
The US 15 months or three months. Simple
Anc corupt zondo corupt iec corupt wrong ngo wrong bullsheed
The Chief Justice is captured...my opinion.
Chief Justice Zondo did not preside over khangaman's contempt proceedings. Nhlamulo is spewing ibheshu rant on constitutional and legal issues that are beyond his single brain comprehension. VIVA ANC VIVA. Phantsi ngemigodoyi phantsi.
But the judges, report to HIM and they know his BIASEs. Speeches against ZUMA.
Our children were always asking us daily. This old man is accused of rape? They further defined rape. We told them to ran if they see him approaching them.
Go back to your country
@@jameskillu9171no one should blame u, u've been lied to by khangaman. Intellectual innocence is always a target for conspiracies pulled from the darkest ends of a rabbit hole.
Fellow South Africans this is not about Zuma MKor IEC These is about the Law and the Constitution of South Africa.
The objection against Zuma was not raised by IEC - meaning if none objected against Zuma in the first place, IEC had no problem.
Captured iec it's a joke
Zuma is a criminal and destroyed our country he must go to jail not parliament. He challenges all the courts, why can’t other people challenge the courts that favour him. This is not a Zuma country, it’s our country and IEC is right to challenge or Appeal this order on behalf of citizens not tiny MK party. What is wrong in taking this to highest court in the land, why are they afraid.
Yeka insangu yakuhlanyisa n get ur reaserch ryt
@@TS-jw6tpHe is correct. People supporting him suddenly forgot everything he's done.
They are inside politics including SARS end of story
Thank you Mr Nhlamulo. The IEC must take what has been the order then wait for the reasons as the court said. IEC must cool down. Love you my brother Ayanda is on the other side....😂😂😂😂😂
Inde indlela
Inde indlela esisazoyhamba struh
ANC,IEC and DA consult the government of Silanka firdt how their people handle such situations😂😂😂😂
They can appeal the ruling.
Yes, but why?
MK will appeal too meaning no elections anytime soon
Ys bt wt the reason behind
Mr Ndlela is exposing the media biasedness
IEC needs to make sure, elections are free and fair. Let them do their job. As for the parties, same WhatsApp zonke 😂😂😂😂
Eish 😁
The IEC must choose if it wants to be a political party. They must put their faces on the ballot and let's if they win
The more they fight against MK the more people will vote for Mk, Zuma enjoys being in courts
Zasha
Ayanda please respect yourself...that old man you intervied regarding mk legacy told you to do your honework...now yo are biased😂😂😂😂
An appeal is brought on error in law or fact of the decision makers as articulated in their reasons for the judgement. In the absence of reasons the appeal is pre mature as your notice has no basis upon which the appeal is brought. This is unfortunate by IEC. Is their appeal now not going to affect their calendar.
By the time the MK win, iyobe yehlule amaqembu epolitiki kuhlangene ne IEC nenkantolo yomthethosisekelo🏃🏃🏃🏃
The mighty IEC is doing the right thing by approaching the constitutional Court...we all want to hear the reasons of the electoral court 🙏🔥
This Ayanda guy is a disgrace
Wena silima if Zuma its too old u mean that parliament is look like cresh on you eyes