This Easy VR Gunstock Changes EVERY VR Shooter!
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- čas přidán 20. 02. 2024
- This is the OneStock from WieldVR. An Easy VR Gunstock for the Quest 2, Quest 3, PSVR2 and Valve Index.
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Nice review , just used your code ty ;)
180€, Thanks for the 😂 😂
The problem with using a real stock is that, where the weapon sits in relation to the controllers is all over place. I tried to get used to Pavlov but you pick up a shotgun and shoulder the gun, your looking thru the gun rather than down the sights. It's a sloppy mess I wish we could get some standard, the Lazer that comes out of your controller should be the barrel of the gun every single time no matter what weapon
Which is why we designed the OneStock in a way that you can orient your hands to point in the correct way in a couple seconds. This allows you to align the sights.
You do the same thing when not having the stock in hand, just without rotating the friction joints, so it becomes quite intuitive quote quickly.
Not to mention trying to reload every time with different guns is super awkward. You have to keep remembering where the holder is every time you want to put your controller back.
@@WieldVRBut you have to do this change with every gun you pick up. >.> If you are playing an online shooter trying to change on the fly constantly with a new gun is not fun.
@@coryv5679 yes that is almost a bigger problem than aiming, there should be a reload button option for every game even if it's a bit slower to balance things out. Doom 3 with a stock is perfect because it has a reload button and it's no problem shooting from the hip which Completey solves the ads issue. Reloading manually is kind of a pain without a stock, different games have mags in different locations contractors being one of the worst, why can I even grab a pistol mag when I'm holding a rifle, I don't want to have to look down and fumble around for the right mag type
@@coryv5679 You can just keep the lock open and slide your hand to where you grab the virtual gun. Then you don't need to remember, because it will be where you expect it to be.
Takes less than 2 seconds and is only needed when you pick up a new gun. Makes all guns also feel much more like their real life counterparts.
That a hot toys vader back there?
I swear, manafacturers these days have NO idea of value, costs, perceived costs, and need.
First of all, these ARE NOT NEEDED. So thier value isn't high. This also affects thier perceived value. The other thing is, two straps and $12 worth of PVC is what people see. So perceived value is low there as well.
The sweet spot for cost is going to be $35 with free shipping. Maybe as high as $55 with free shipping. Anything higher and your missing about 98% of your potential customer base.
Inventors are not bussiness savvy...
That first point makes no sense. A Lamborghini isn’t needed therefore it’s cheap?? Also manufacturing isn’t the only cost involved with product design. If you have a team working on design, marketing, future investment. All of these costs need to be factored in and for a small company without a huge catalog of products and customers these definitely are very significant costs! Ultimately something is worth what someone is willing to pay for it, which is why Chelsea wasted over 100m on Caseido
@@ItsSamuelJones Sorry, I was trying to keep the jargon out. In economics, this product is called "inelastic". So it can be seen, just as your Lambo, a luxury item. Let's use an example that has already run its course. Vector by Anki. Also a luxury item by a new company with SIGNIFICANT investment in R&D, software, and production.
The price was too high for most to afford, and so they choked thier community that would have kept it alive. This was evident as soon as the price went from 300 to 100 and everyone began to scoop them up! The modding community grew, also thanks to them making the software open sourced but the limited quantity kept it low still. The company failed after MANY of the same thing happening with thier products. They just priced them too high and tried to make them into "ecosystems".
Lambos have a lot more to them then a simple luxury item. Thier worth generally increases as time passes, and so can be looked at as an investment. Not only that but they are signifiers of wealth and status. I don't think some rinky dink stock is anything to compare it to. Thier company is stretched into many areas and is already grown. To many things for your example to work.
We can also go back and see what a starting company with proper people in charge did. Vizio is now a name brand in the electronics industry. especially with TVs. When they started, they were the cheapest in thier categories: ALWAYS. 3D TVs, Smart TVs, Large TVs. But now look, they cost just as much as the bigger companies like Sony. Why? because they grew thier name brand with superior products by keeping so low that EVERYONE could afford them to see for themselves how good thier engineering and customer service was.
If Anki had done the same, they would have rode thier Vector robot and Overdrive products communities into building a solid foundation of loyal customers as thier base and would still be in bussiness today.
Go to Five or Below, or the dollar store, any outlet store and see for yourself what overvaluing your product does.
Customers have a limited amount of liquid cash and many things are competing for it. Why would they want to overspend on something they can get from Etsy for $24???
Finally, this lesson was taught long ago by FORD, The car maker. He kept his car prices low. He kept them low enough for his own factory workers to be able to afford. And that was the key to his success.
But hey, let's listen to the developers and NOT the bussiness people to conduct our bussiness. Let them do the companies taxes while we're at it...
damn, the price is the only thing putting me off buying it… i can afford it but can’t justify it, considering i’m not sure just how often i’ll be using it.
It's the AVP of Gunstocks. The modus R is probably a better buy IMO - similar style, adjusts almost as quick (But you don't have to because you have multiple grab points). Check it out.
@@BrandoDrumVR"Almost as quick" = 10 times slower 😁
@@WieldVR how? It's a gunstock on a sling with paddles. It's the exact same concept lol
@@BrandoDrumVR Because ours has quick adjustment mechanisms where any adjustment does not affect other adjustments. Any gunstock with a round profile frame and rotation joints on the frame can never achieve this.
2 separate grab points doesn't work, because the location and orientation then never matches how the virtual gun needs to be held.
And by how it needs to be held, we mean where and in what angle your hands are to align the sights and to use the front handle as a visual reference for speed and consistency to grab the front handle more easily.
It's bad if there is a mismatch in what the virtual gun shows you and where the grab point on the gunstock is.
Tbh I saw this and figured you could just 3D print something pretty similar. It turns out after a quick search.....yes. Yes you can
Thanks for the review. Very cool shot at 8:05! Which grips are you using and do they interfere with the gunstock's cups?
They are AMVR's grips that replace the battery cover. They get slightly in the way but not enough that I don't want to use them 😂
Lol. Anyone notice the amount of flex in that sim rig when he grabs the wheel ?
lmao. I'm a sim racer and that rig is not it. lol
Thanks for the proper review! First one I've seen, excited to give it a try.
Just ordered one with your code! 🎉 Thanks
W A R ! indeed,, the price yo..
That's a good review but I find that it's an insane asking price and on top of that they say that they deliver in mid April? I honestly don't get it...
I've been watching this company for a while for their compelling marketing material but honestly, price keep going up and availability keep going down. They don't seem that hard to manufacture, so I really don't get why they're doing that... just trust your own product and invest the money to put them on the hands of your customers and have a bunch of people to review it. Except for this video, there's only official reviews which I can't fully trust.
Delivery for new orders is in mid-April because there is a months long queue of orders to assemble, package and ship out.
Price was increased because 88% of the product was completely redesigned since December, and it now costs significantly more to manufacture than the version in this review.
We are doing exactly what you ask, focusing on putting the products in the hands of customers, but we need to have the inventory of all the parts to do so.
As of today we have the parts at the factory and the pre-orders have started shipping 😁
@@WieldVR Looks like a good design but there's no way in hell I'm going to pay nearly TWO HUNDRED DOLLARS to use this with my kiwi grips. Get out of here.
Bruh that’s so expensive 💀🤣
No it’s not if you want good quality I got mine for 115€
115 Euros for a stick? Holy sh*t@@siegfriedvonwimpffen1257
If you like this style of gunstock but want something more affordable (and arguably better) I'd recommend the modus R. The Wield is really quite a knockoff of existing designs, sure it has the telescoping function to throw off your muscle memory (sweet feature) but it's still also overpriced. Double cool.
That has no support for the Index, while the OneStock does have the support.
@@datechnoman2 I have support for index.
Im in the first batch, cant wait for it to show up as its my first gunstock
I'm jelly :( I'm in the third batch so I have a month to wait. Let us know how good it is!
@@shindigira I ordered mine in November and I am still waiting so I hope it’s worth the wait
I been waiting since Nov too. They said by end of Feb so idk we'll see.@@siegfriedvonwimpffen1257
Got 2nd batch we got another delay tho
There’s another delay for 1st batch
thought I got real lucky with the code and was about to order it...Until I read that there's no shipping to Ukraine, shame, ah well.
Gutted! Sorry!!
That's a bummer! We would want to offer shipping to Ukraine but courier services deem the area unsafe to operate in, so they don't offer transport services to Ukraine.
@@WieldVR Hey I fully understand, just how it goes for the time being.
I do have to say, the video where your CEO talked about first prototype and using a selfie stick for it, did give me a diy idea
@@Ponial We have a selfie stick based gunstock design available for free in thingiverse, our CEO designed it in 2018. Link is on our website in the about us section 😁
214 cnd$ is way too much for a piece of plastic. I would pay a maximum of 100$ for this. VR accessories are just crazy overpriced
The market is still niche that's why they can charge a premium because very little people are doing it. Just make a diy one yourself it's much cheaper using PVC pipes
Thanks for the code! Just ordered mine. I love that there's a 90-day return policy, no questions asked 😎
i think the product is brilliant but i don't like double handed guns in vr as i find aiming extremely cumbersome as i tend to squint when looking down the sights which kills the 3d effect
You can legit just make your own Onestock pretty easily... It is just a tripod arm with some 3D printed attachments. It isn't worth the freaking $200 asking price... That is an insane price tag for a tripod arm with some 3D printed stuff.
Reloading with this is freaking terrible. Every time you adjust the size your brain has to try and remember where the controller should be placed. You constantly have to take the controller out to reload and then remember when you put it back.
Yo bro can u answer i wanna talk about something important
rifles have weight ,, ADD WEIGHT
Nothing stopping you adding some on I guess.🤷♂️
Buy a pro tube if you want weight
150$ for this :) no thank you.
womp womp
Jesus , its not a fkn mystery what this device should be . Take your five most popular combat rifles. Now make your device a solid unit that looks like a mutant of all of them with an adjustable length for the barrel. Not some damn stupid stick figure of a weapon. Then put a scope that will associate possition with the in game scope. Then make enhancements like a forward grip ect . This is not rocket science.
And how exactly does tracking work on that idea?
Lmao dude thinks he’s some design genius
Do us all a favor...
Buy a 3d printer.
Then design this idea of yours. And release it for all of our benefit.
You'll make some money. It's a win-win.
Sarcasm right?
I mean why? So your roommate can admire your fake gun you can't see in game? At the expense of tracking and practical weight for extended competitive sessions? How will you maintain tracking with a realistic forward grip?