New or Renewed Covenant? The Cross and the Torah | John Lawson and Michael Rood Refuted

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  • Examining the argument from Hebrew Roots and Torah observance teachers that the New Covenant is actually just a “renewed” Mosaic Covenant.
    Examining the arguments of John Lawson and Michael Rood
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  • @TheBeginningOfWisdom
    @TheBeginningOfWisdom  Před 3 lety +4

    Enjoying this video? It’s part of a playlist examining Hebrew Roots claims and arguments. Check it out here:
    czcams.com/play/PLHpxocVjShD20xRT5KFxhij6vsWF1d7uu.html
    If you have an argument or issue you’d like answered, let me know in the comments!

  • @ArdentHeart
    @ArdentHeart Před 3 lety +8

    Can't wait for your next renewed episode! 😆

  • @NikkiSchumacherOfficial
    @NikkiSchumacherOfficial Před 3 lety +8

    Thank you for all the study and thinking you do and for sharing your thoughts honestly.

    • @maxxhyatt1265
      @maxxhyatt1265 Před 3 lety

      Could Andrew possibly do a study on what the church is under currently, the new covenant or new testament. thanks keep up the good work great video @nikki Schumacher official

    • @SpotterVideo
      @SpotterVideo Před 2 lety

      @@maxxhyatt1265 New Covenant Whole Gospel:
      Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
      He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
      Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
      Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
      husband unto them, saith the LORD:
      Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
      Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
      Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
      Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
      Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
      Watch the CZcams videos “The New Covenant” by Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

  • @biblehistoryscience3530
    @biblehistoryscience3530 Před 3 lety +7

    Several followers of such false teachers have admitted to me that they don’t care about the lies because the Bible is wrong and their teacher right.

  • @SaltyMinorcan
    @SaltyMinorcan Před 3 lety +3

    Thank you 💥

  • @EthanDeRose
    @EthanDeRose Před 3 lety +2

    I absolutely love this type of content. This has helped me so much. Thank you!

  • @strykerdawn1
    @strykerdawn1 Před 3 lety +8

    So happy to see you talk about this subject. The more I learn about covenant theology the more I see the old covenant is the covenant of works and the new covenant is the covenant of grace. We are only saved by the covenant of grace, not by the covenant of works (the law).
    Anyway I'm so glad to see you make this video and show them the actual words without people trying to decieve their followers. And people won't do the work you've done here to check him. I pray many people come to the knowledge of the truth of what you've shared.

    • @fredmorgan5387
      @fredmorgan5387 Před 2 lety

      It's always been by man's faith and God's grace, start in Genesis 4, but you can see the words in Genesis 6, Noah was righteous ( faith ) and found grace in God's sight. Every prophet did.
      Always by faith and God's grace, studying the Old Testament shows us many things that are not being taught today. When I used to follow my emotions I used to believe the lies, buy now I leave my emotions behind. I always turn to
      Rev 22
      14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
      Those who keep his commandments.
      Rev 12
      17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
      Rev 14
      12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
      Please read and study your Bible and let God give you understanding.
      Godbless

    • @strykerdawn1
      @strykerdawn1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@fredmorgan5387 your confusing faith which is something we receive and rest in with faithfulness which is something we do. I pray the Lord opens your eyes to this truth.

    • @fredmorgan5387
      @fredmorgan5387 Před 2 lety

      @@strykerdawn1 Are you saying that we don't have to change the way we walk and talk, just believe?
      Question: Do you study your Bible or just agree with what your pastor says?
      Christ said prove all things.
      This is why people walk with no respect for themselves or others. They don't even keep the 10 commandments that hangs on the wall in their church building. Not condemning anyone but saddened by it. Scripture, new testament says we are to walk as Christ walked, but how many do? I pray for us all

    • @strykerdawn1
      @strykerdawn1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@fredmorgan5387 No I'm saying that God changes us and gives us a new nature. He causes the change in us and our actions are the fruit of the power and work of God.

    • @fredmorgan5387
      @fredmorgan5387 Před 2 lety

      @@strykerdawn1 I just pray that people understand the ways that God changes us is actually keeping his commandments, laws. I am just saddened by people using the new testament to explain the old testament, when in fact Paul preaches God's laws. I am so happy that you love God. The fruit of the Spirit in Galatians 5:22,23 is when we keep his ways from the beginning, It truly amazes me that Christians today think they are without sin and don't need the law like the Jews did. If people would study the old testament, look up words they don't know or understand I truly believe that God would give people understanding. Well we have a good conscience toward God and that's what we have in common, to do the best we can, to please God, and not man, to keep God's commandments and not the ways of the world. Godbless

  • @amypositan2111
    @amypositan2111 Před 9 měsíci

    Excellent video

  • @kylablakeelliott
    @kylablakeelliott Před 3 lety +1

    Wow so good thank you for doing this research!

  • @exeshesis751
    @exeshesis751 Před 3 lety

    This is good. Thanks Drew.

  • @maxxhyatt1265
    @maxxhyatt1265 Před 3 lety +1

    Keep up the good work God bless @The Beginning Of Wisdom

  • @TorahObservantUnitarian
    @TorahObservantUnitarian Před 3 lety +5

    Thanks for this man . Your wisdom is valuable indeed. Yes . We are in a new covenant. The gentiles received the Spirit. It's proof. Jesus's words say this is my blood a new covenant.
    Even if it says renewed, the gentiles still receive the Holy Spirit so circumcision for starters is no longer required.
    We are under a new high priest . Jesus. And everything specifically stated about the old covenant in Hebrews is old and obsolete.

    • @johnlawson6851
      @johnlawson6851 Před 10 měsíci

      Abraham was saved for years before he was commanded to keep circumcision, the same applies in the NC.

  • @TorahObservantUnitarian
    @TorahObservantUnitarian Před 3 lety +2

    Editing is on point lol

    • @TheBeginningOfWisdom
      @TheBeginningOfWisdom  Před 3 lety

      Thx. Sometimes you just want to make sure a detail isn’t missed. Glad it got attention.

  • @amypositan2111
    @amypositan2111 Před 9 měsíci

    A lot of false teachers only will give the first half of the scripture, when the second half refutes their beliefs.

    • @void5982
      @void5982 Před 22 dny

      Yep very true. This video is false. If u read the Bible its very clear God can't change. If God made a nee covenant he would have changed. And he doesn't understand Hebrew during those times there were no vowels or ways to distinguish chadash meaning new or renew. You would have to use context.

  • @IAmisMaster
    @IAmisMaster Před 3 lety +3

    Thanks, Andrew. These are the same ridiculous arguments to deny that there is a new heaven and earth, simply a “renewed” heaven and earth.

    • @carmensiekierke3579
      @carmensiekierke3579 Před 3 lety

      @Progger Frogger.....In Christian history there have been three ways of relating nature and grace. (1) Grace perfects nature. This view existed before and during the medieval period. It is the Roman Catholic view. ( 2) Grace renews human nature in salvation. This is the position of the Reformers. (3) Grace obliterates nature. This is the view of the AnaBaptists, and remains the view of the holiness traditions.
      Thomas Aquinas taught that grace " perfects" nature, that creation is inherently imperfect, inherently corrupt. Grace is a medicinal substance that elevates and transcends nature. The Reformed taught nature was created awaiting glorification. According to Augustine and the Reformers, after the fall, creation ( human nature) was corrupted. It had the potential to be glorified, but first it had to be redeemed, justified, saved and glorified......by grace. Gracious salvation begins the process of restoring the image that was damaged in the fall and that will be fully restored in the resurrection, glorification, and consummation.
      Human nature is renewed by grace and all nature will be renewed in the new heavens and new earth.

    • @IAmisMaster
      @IAmisMaster Před 3 lety

      @@carmensiekierke3579
      My only comment was about a literal new earth and heaven as opposed to a refurbished one. The Bible is very clear that the old heaven and earth pass away, they are not fixed up. Peter says the elements will burn up. All early Christians understood this as the current earth’s destruction.

    • @carmensiekierke3579
      @carmensiekierke3579 Před 3 lety

      @@IAmisMaster @PF, the re-creation of the heavens and the earth......is called RENEWAL.

    • @IAmisMaster
      @IAmisMaster Před 3 lety

      @@carmensiekierke3579
      There is no getting around a literal disposal of the first heaven and earth. You can do all the Greek study in the world and confirm that is clearly what 2 Peter 3 and Revelation 21 teach. I don't understand why you are so set on the renewal and no destruction understanding when it is nowhere in the Bible.

    • @carmensiekierke3579
      @carmensiekierke3579 Před 3 lety

      @@IAmisMaster @PF, There will be continuality between this world and the new heavens and new earth. After all, they are called the NEW heavens and the NEW earth. That expression from 2 Peter 3, indicated a degree of continuality. Christians will be glorified humans. If you read that language in its immediate context ( 2 Peter 3: 8-13) it is a promise that Christ is coming, there will be a judgment, there will be a purification of this world. Peter was making an analogy with the Noahic flood, in which " the world that then was" ( vv. 5-7). After the flood, the world continues to exist but it was purified. It was not utterly destroyed and re-made. The only people left were the righteous, i.e., those few who believed and to whom Christ's righteousness was imputed and whom the Lord had worked a gracious degree of sanctity. That's the analogy he uses to describe the coming world just as Jesus had done....Luke 17: 26-27. "Just as in the days of Noah"

  • @tomhitchcock8195
    @tomhitchcock8195 Před rokem

    What do Hebrew roots people expect us to do?
    How will we live differently?

  • @tomhitchcock8195
    @tomhitchcock8195 Před rokem

    I’ve heard a guy say renewed covenant with Israel (northern kingdom) whom he divorced, but not Judah.

  • @theamazingchannel470
    @theamazingchannel470 Před 10 měsíci

    You are literally reading that the New Covenant is all about the law, yet you still try and get away from that definition.. THe New Covenant is the exact same law as the Old COvenant, simply in a different format, and you try and redefine it as not covering all sins and not forgetting them. What do you think the Day of Atonement was about? Lev. 16:30 because on this day atonement ... you will be clean from ALL your sins... 34 “This is to be a lasting ordinance for you: Atonement is to be made once a year for ALL the sins of the Israelites.” Isaiah 43:25“I, I am he who blots out your transgressions for my own sake, and I WILL NOT remember your sins..."

  • @HectorRodriguez-ms3om
    @HectorRodriguez-ms3om Před 10 měsíci

    Humble Question... Can 2318 be similar to 2319 in the sense that when 2319 is used it refers to a "new" (replacement of the old, but refreshed.)? In other words, not something different, but rather, the same idea freshened up. I followed you on 2319 used in different texts and it appeared that it mainly refers to being replaced with something that appears the "same likeness", but new. Not a different thing altogether. Here is a comment now... It appears that in Jeremiah 31says that He will still be our God (like He was and wanted to be with Israel). If God does not change, would He not want us to continue in His laws. The last comment here... He would put "His Law" in our minds and hearts. It appears He did not put something different in our hearts, but rather "His Law" on our hearts because we will serve "His Law put on our hearts" from the heart. From the heart because of what Christ did for us on the cross. I do appreciate your video, it gave me more to study, and I am not trying to argue in bad spirit... I just wanted to share a thought back to you. If you read this, thank you. Would love to hear a counter response only on what I mentioned above... so there will be no rabbit trails. God bless you my brother!

    • @void5982
      @void5982 Před 22 dny

      I agree with you. Ancient Hebrew had no vowels or ways to tell the difference between words like chadash. You have to use context to figure it out.

  • @SpotterVideo
    @SpotterVideo Před 2 lety

    The Book of Galatians and the Book of Hebrews were written to battle the Judaisers. We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
    New Covenant Whole Gospel:
    Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
    He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
    Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
    Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by
    husband unto them, saith the LORD:
    Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
    Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
    Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
    Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
    Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
    Watch the CZcams videos “The New Covenant” by Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.

  • @jonathanjensen189
    @jonathanjensen189 Před 3 lety

    It doesn't even really matter, since the Law is done in the way of the spirit. In fact, Jesus is only known in the OT in the spirit. I do not mean that you have a person called "the Holy Spirit" in you when you see this, but I mean it is seen in the hidden way, in a mystery, as Paul was talking about. The church, sadly, forgot this.
    I'll try to fix it, though, so don't worry!

  • @lucasbilleaudeau2028
    @lucasbilleaudeau2028 Před 2 lety

    New Moon? Same Moon, but new month? Can that be looked as renewed? It certainly isn't literally a new moon every month. Our universe would be full of Moons.

    • @TheBeginningOfWisdom
      @TheBeginningOfWisdom  Před 2 lety

      Unassailable logic. And no one ever really builds new houses. And no new generations are ever born. They were clearly there before. Amazing reasoning. Just find some unrelated phrase with the same word in it and insist it couldn’t mean anything different. Genius.

    • @lucasbilleaudeau2028
      @lucasbilleaudeau2028 Před 2 lety

      @@TheBeginningOfWisdom Did God break the covenant or did man break the covenant?

    • @lucasbilleaudeau2028
      @lucasbilleaudeau2028 Před 2 lety

      Jeremiah 31:31-34 31 "Behold, days are coming," declares the LORD, "when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah,
      32 not like the covenant which I made with their fathers in the day I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt, My covenant which they broke, although I was a husband to them," declares the LORD.
      33 "But this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Israel after those days," declares the LORD, "I will put My law within them and on their heart I will write it; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
      34 "They will not teach again, each man his neighbor and each man his brother, saying, 'Know the LORD,' for they will all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest of them," declares the LORD, "for I will forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more."

    • @lucasbilleaudeau2028
      @lucasbilleaudeau2028 Před 2 lety

      I see the Old and New Covenants as Wedding Contracts. Man has broken the Old Covenants Relationship (adultry etc...idols..and worshiping gods)...New Covenant Relationship (through Messiah; new Wedding Contract with Torah in our hearts)

  • @fredmorgan5387
    @fredmorgan5387 Před 2 lety

    Heb 8
    7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
    What was faultless about the first covenant? Nothing!!!
    8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and the house of Judah.
    Men were at fault, not the covenant!!!
    9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
    They wouldn't keep his covenant.
    10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them upon their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be my people.
    God puts his laws in men's hearts and on their mind, same commandments, same laws, same statutes.
    11 And they shall not teach every man his neighbor, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest.
    Does everyone in Israel know him ? No
    Is he still being taught? Yes
    12 For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more.
    13 In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
    Ready to vanish away, that means it hasn't vanished away yet !!!
    Does all of Israel know God?
    Are they still teaching about God ?
    Please no commentary, scripture only.
    With philosophy we can make scripture say what we want, but scripture interprets scripture

    • @miketisdale7341
      @miketisdale7341 Před 2 lety +1

      I find it interesting that while you call others to “no commentary”, you have added your own commentary between almost every single verse. You do the very thing you tell others not to do. I can think of a prominent group in Scripture that did this very thing and only a continuance in pride will not allow you to see that you did the very thing you called others not to do.

    • @fredmorgan5387
      @fredmorgan5387 Před 2 lety

      @@miketisdale7341 You are absolutely right, I humble myself and apologize.
      Forgive me

    • @SpotterVideo
      @SpotterVideo Před 2 lety +1

      Heb 12:18 For ye are not come unto the mount that might be touched, and that burned with fire, nor unto blackness, and darkness, and tempest,
      Heb 12:22 But ye are come unto mount Sion, and unto the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, and to an innumerable company of angels,
      Heb 12:23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect,
      Heb 12:24 And to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling, that speaketh better things than that of Abel.

  • @junfev30
    @junfev30 Před 3 lety +1

    So the new covenant is the old covenant written on our hearts. Got it.

    • @TheBeginningOfWisdom
      @TheBeginningOfWisdom  Před 3 lety +3

      No, but that’s a different bad argument not being directly addressed in this video.

    • @JGez83
      @JGez83 Před 3 lety

      Robert do you have a Zadokite High Priest who is not 50yrs old?

  • @void5982
    @void5982 Před 22 dny

    Not trying to hate on you man but i disagree. Of cource the laws are still supposed to be followed.. all of them. God cannot change numbers 23:19 and many other verses. And when u looked up the meaning of new u made a amateur mistake. There were no vowels or ways to distinguish the meaning of the same word other than CONTEXT. Those accent marks to decide the difference of meaning of chadash weren't created until 1000 years after Christ. This video is made very poorly. Ur assuming God changed. If God changed he is a lair therefore your saying Jesus died for no reason because he wouldn't be a perfect sacrafice. I can go more into what u said about verbs and adjectives but there is no use. Cause if your assuming God changed thats just completley wrong. And the covenant God made with Abraham is the same as the one on mount sainai. He gave those laws so we would follow them because we were saved by believing in the promises of God and they only followed the law because they loved God. In galations 3 it states we are no longer under the curse of the law. Which is given in leveticus 26. And you understand nothing about Jewish history.

    • @TheBeginningOfWisdom
      @TheBeginningOfWisdom  Před 22 dny

      I never once said God changed. Your charge is false. I know all about the vowel pointings. That’s what they’re actually called. Not “accent marks” as you incorrectly said. Those are irrelevant. The difference between verb and adjective is based on context and in the phrase “new covenant”, “new” is an adjective. In the original Hebrew. That literally is the context. You are just so attached to your false man made theological system that you can’t see what is plain there in the text and make comments full of errors and false accusations. Thank you for stopping by.

    • @void5982
      @void5982 Před 22 dny

      ​@@TheBeginningOfWisdomok my man made assumptuons? You are so blind

    • @void5982
      @void5982 Před 22 dny

      ​@@TheBeginningOfWisdomyou know what im being kind of ride right now i apologize brother. Ima send another comment in a day or two explaining the Hebrew to you. It may take a while please hear me out. We aren't supposed to separate over these things. But please hear me out i watched your whole video