How much power does a 4.6 2V make with nitrous? *N/A NUMBERS TOO
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2021
- We put the nitrous 2V Mustang GT to the test on the dyno, the results may shock you!
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People talk trash about the 2 valve 4.6 and I laugh and walk away. The stock block is insanely strong. With upgraded internals people are documenting making 900hp with a single big turbo and the engine holding together. Haven't heard of any stock 302 block even coming close to holding that. With that being said I'd say 4.6 is worthy of serious build attention as any of the other known POPULAR engines people brag about. Especially considering the cross bolt, and skirted block around the crank design that GM took and used on their LS design engines. That alone gives the 4.6 some serious crank support and block strength! That 2 valve iron block was designed well!
The same tech that designed the original npi 2v was the major stepping stone that lead to the Coyotes and 6.2sohc of today. Even a stock 2v longblock with ring gap added will support a lot more power than most people ever need.
Shhh! Let's keep the prices where they are.
1400hp built top end & big turbo has been done too
Yeah besides the wimpy rods and pistons the rest of the bottom end is stout.
@@Bacongrease00 much stronger than the 302 block! The skirt and side main bolt design of the mod engines were copied by the LS. Look how it benefited the LS in block strength! 1000 HP capacity and beyond. The "wimpy" 302 production block can't even get to 1000hp(struggles to stay together pass 500hp). The mod blocks can.
Love this ! Bravo ! I got me a 2v this year and i love it. Basic bolt ons and a vmp tune for now but more to come. Love the channel. Super fun cars !
Picked up my first Mustang in July a Black 2001 Bullitt all stock. And have been watching your channel ever since then. Looking forward to the New Edge content. Thank You.
Good Video Man!!
Looking forward to seeing what you have in store for this one!!
Love the 2v content!!! I daily a black 01 mustang GT and I love it
Glad to see the new edge content finally
i like the 2v man!!!! Awesome choice love the new edge
Thanks buddy
The N.a. run was about what i think it should be with bad tune, but when you hit it with NOX gas she puts out some serious torque numbers with bad tune. Very good baseline
to know what you are working with, just loving the New Edge.
535ft-lb on a lean tune makes me have hope for my new edge after it gets some go go parts
As soon as my trailer comes in, I'll be making an appointment with Horsepower Factory, for my little build, 331 and V1, loved this place at Horsepower challenge..
They do great work
Gonna be a great car to street/strip. Daryle can straighten out that tune for sure. Take care Caleb🤙🏼🇺🇸
Very nice solid car . Glade to see it held together
Well.... glad you decided to dyno it right away 👍😂
I had to know!
If it’s not a stock pump could it be sucking the fuel basket dry on the initial hit and then the fuel catches up or tries to catch up???
Can’t wait to see this build..R u building it for stree, track or show??
Probably both, details soon on the plans for it
It’s not super LEAN, dude is making a pull with 15.0 AFR 😂 god
Makes me miss my 01 bullitt. Had cams,intake, headers and 125 shot on a zex kit. Made 377/427. Was a fun car but traded it in for a coyote
I really like the new edge car, wish this one was a Bullitt
I Love a N20 2V... We have ran low 5's in the 1/8th with a N20 2V
It definitely loved the sauce
I got me a new edge dd to. Car looks good caleb 🤘🏼
Now I'm curious to see what mine will do on a dyno with a kenne bell.
Will be cool to watch the transformation on the channel
Not too shabby.... Goes up from here!!👍👊💪
She's weak sauce lol
@@FoxcastMedia haha..... Still pretty cool tho!👍👊💪
Excited for this one
On 91 we hit 320hp and 452lb-ft. Modifications are a non PI motor, PI heads with stage 2 cams, BBK TB, 32lb injectors, built AOD, 4.77 gears and headers. Have sheets to prove. Tune was done at Archangel in Tulsa.
We’re the cams for non pi or pi heads? Wondering about ptv clearance.
Great numbers!
@@silentshredr PI cams.
@@FoxcastMedia the non PI block with PI heads was the key. The non PI pistons have a small dish that the PI pistons so it bumped the compression.
I call bullshit on 452lb-ft. More like 300’s
That's melting pistons lean.
Bigtime, the tuner of this car should be fired
You are making me want a new edge! I think these cars could blow up soon and the price could go crazy.
Its getting there cant find a proper good one for less than 7k-8k, they easily went for at least 3k-4k for a stock perfect condition one
@@Johnblake-vn7qz my buddy just got one for a steal 1900$ 180k miles it had the motor and trans rebuilt less then 5k miles ago he has the receipt just need a paint job from the clear fading
Yes the hype for a new edge is crazy right now
@@rageninja4460 i just traded a chevy sonic 2015 for one. and its a gt with 141k miles. the sonic had no issues and same mileage, and the mustang is the same. you can find deals on these cars all the time
@@rageninja4460 got my 00’ gt with 150,000 miles and a new paint job for $3600
I got a 04 mustang GT automatic dark shadow gray with chrome bullit deep dish wheels and staggered mickies tees and she running real good for 18 years old and I am thinking of running NOS just a little to cross 300 hp being N/A without blowing the engine I am not a race car driver just a boost to put a smile on my face
What size/brand of rear tires are you running with the 4.10 gear? Did i miss what size shot of juice you were putting to it? Like the project for sure.
I'd be checking fuel pressure.. might not have enough fuel pump
Knowing that you are a perfectionist; That ticking must be driving you crazy. Lol
Totally insane! lol
@@FoxcastMedia Loose converter bolts?
My buddies 2 valve does the same thing no matter what we do we’re running hp tuners though with a 75 shot
Making 250hp NA. Better slap on some DRs to keep her straight 😂😂🤣🤣
Like bro, 2v ez power adder fun ride as well
Question how difficult to install wet kit with no Schrader valve on fuel rail?
Love this car
Thanks buddy
I just put a aem afr guage in my stock 2v and the thing is all over the place from around 11 to fully pegged at idle and stays around 15 at cruising speed what could this mean
Got one of them there Bama tunes 😂
Love the new edges I give it a year before you coyote swap it lol
Why didn’t you guys fix the tune on the dyno?
Cool just don’t blow it up!!! I like fox body’s the best but this was chassis is vast improvement over the fox body’s I remember when the s95 cars came out I can’t remember which magazine had pictures of this sn95 chassis it all high lighted part to make the cars stronger 94’s to 98’s were nice but when the new edge came out it one best looking mustang ever especially when they were slammed to the ground they just looked bad to the bone that way but I think that all stangs look good lowered A lot of people don’t realize that this era of cars there’s a 95s are just beefed fox bodies (so in short great score 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍and awesome video as usual great content 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏)
This gonna be interesting........
Are you going to manual swap it??
damn bama tune strikes again..
Yup
Their motto must be, lean it out and they'll buy more parts
Like this 2 valve! Hopefully it’s not too hard to fix the tune!
We will get it fixed asap
@@FoxcastMedia With a coyote swap hopefully?
Can u take it to the 1/4 I would love to see what it does
Clean & Dry underneath
What shot
Anyone know what bolt ons and what shot they were running?
What is the rear tire wheel size
Definitely need a tune
Whats bad is someone already paid for two tunes on this thing, and this is what they got
POWA BABY!
Meh lol, your Ecoboost would smoke it lol
My EcoBoost will pull on my 2 valve. Lol... no shame in my game
I would like one to do a cobra r clone. With a voodoo swap it would have more power then the real deal. Get'r it done son!!!
That would be sick!
What shot was it on?
So what is bad lean number higher number bad and low number when in gas is good
The price of a new edge is about rise !!!
They are piles of shit.
Yep
Hopefully, us Crown Vic guys find this too. Trying to find out how much mine can take.... occasionally
Check me out I have everything to no about built crown vics
On my channel
No LMR codes ?
Those AFRs😳😳😳
Yeah, exactly, and thats after we added 14% fuel which was the max it would let us do
Glad it stayed together. I was never into the 2 valves but I’m looking forward to seeing what you do to this one 🤘
2 chambers and tailpipes for the love of sound.... This setup def doesn't do it justice. Did you not have him tune it?
We will fix the tuna asap, and it will be getting full 3" soon
How much nitrous was that?
Slippery Pete need a look over
My 98 GT at BBK 70 mm throttle body BBK throttle body spacer the 99 coil unplug heads that were ported and pause for brand new valve seeds brand new valves voodoo cams BBK headers BBK off-road x pipe with two flowmasters backed up with a haze clutch and of course a 50 ripper shifter with 4:10 gear. Went to a car show and they had one of those mobile dynos now I know a two valve isn't the most powerful motor in the world but my car sounded mean as all hell and I tear tires off of it in second gear. 279 horsepower at the wheels 310 lb feet of torque. I built that motor in my kitchen all winter long put my heart and soul into it and it wasn't really any faster than a new Malibu 😭 bought an 08 GT put a Whipple supercharger on it of course got a tune and fuel pump and injectors but making 425 at the tires. I love the way a good gnarly two valve sounds but they just don't make any power unless you put turbos or nos to them
those 2v engines are every where for almost free. i say just NOS them and keep on trucking.
@@jimmyschmidt14 I got the heads for that motor out of the salvage yard off of smashed New edge. I had brand new valve seats and stuff put in them and when the guy was porting and polishing them he told me that he could really push the limits because they were super easy heads to find if he screwed it up.
3v isn't much better tho lol
@@sategllib2191 when it blows up it's getting a coyote put in it. I already have the short block and the Boss 302 intake just collecting parts for when the inevitable happens. I'm pretty hard on that motor and it has all stock internals with that Whipple on it. Every time I launch it real hard I think it's about those factory aluminum connecting rods lol.
@robertstone9988 they ain't that weak man with a good tune it'll hold 425 pretty easy. You can make 500+ to the tire safely with the right combo but you gotta have cams and headers or cams and a turbo kit. The 3v is a decent step above a 2v but a 2v can Def make some power with aftermarket heads cam intake on a npi short block you can make well over 300 to the tires from a 4.6 liter from the 90s I don't think that is that terrible all things considered.
Don't coyote swap this one build the 2v like a terminator cobra and turbo it you will be super impressed if the tune is right!!
Why did you not get them to tune it?
I see my question was answered in the comments 🤙🤙
What’s the name of the wheels and what model is it?
They are Billet Specialties street lights
@@FoxcastMedia My man, thank you so much for the quick response! Love you channel and content!
Let's not have the cleetus McFarland if it blows it blows how about tell a customer hey this thing needs to be checked it is not right to me that is the best way to go that attitude is kind of scary when you have to depend on other people with your car
That's why you don't go to Bama performance for a tune.
Exactly
Gap those rings…. Lucky those pistons didn’t shatter at that A/F ratio.
And who says a 2v doesn't make power. What gears are in it?
Gear is a 4.10
2 valves respond well to 4.10 gears. I can see it now at Ford Take Over 2022 the sn95 invasion. Lol
Oh shid oh shid
She’s screaming for some new headlights.
Man that's bama for you 🤣. Their tunes are trash. That ticking sounds like either lash adjusters or it's about to launch a plug. I'd bet it's just ticky lash adjusters. If you plan on upgrading heads I wouldn't even worry about it for now. I don't think there is a 2v on the planet with stock heads left that probably doesn't tick like that. I know mine does and the last 3 iv looked at recently did also. 2vs just have their "ticks" no pun intended lol. Still looks like a solid car to start with. I'm excited to see what you do with it 🤘
If thats bama tunes it dont surprise me
Yup
@@FoxcastMedia i was kinda shocked thought it would make more horse power but man that torque tho
Hey I have a set of knockoff deka 80lbs injectors that act like 500lb injectors..lol.. had me nice and carbon fouled.. Maybe they will work for ya! Lol j/k...
You think that’s tired you should see mine lol age and Florida sun aged it x4
Will a non pi 4.6 reach 300 on a 100 shot?
Easy
Maybe its the fuel pump
I thought the higher afr numbers mean rich and lower numbers mean lean
Air Fuel Ratio = AFR is the amount of air in relationship to fuel. Bigger the number, bigger the amount of air.
I wouldn’t have run this past the 1st pull, much less adding NOS.
Acts like it has a boost a pump
That som bird c'mon
I've heard those bama tunes ain't very good. Obvious proof here.
I wonder if i can get my 1995 grand marquis to 450 to 500 ho daily
Yea you can with the right mods. You can do 450 on stock bottom end fairly reliable 500 is really pushing it. Forged internals and boost you could shoot well above that number or make 500 and be chilling and super reliable.
@@midnight347 what's the right mods?
Yote swap it with a oden blower
What a terrible tune. Surprised it’s stayed together this long. Rear control arms look like the junk ones off eBay. Good starting point for a new edge! I’ll enjoy this build.
If it needs to be tuned and it's on the dyno why isn't the tuner running the dyno tuning the vehicle??????? Isn't it the point of bringing car to a dyno so you can adjust the tune especially when you're spraying. Then again I'm just probably some idiot that doesn't know what he's talking about
My 3.7 makes 300whp NA....400+ on bottle
That engine has alot more revs and alot more tech like vct it's basically a v6 coyote. They're solid engines but it has a ton of advantages over an old 2v tech wise. You must have fbo to be up over 300 to the tire they're nowhere near that in stock form.
Probably a BAMA tune.
Been there..done that. We all learn sometime.
I have a procharger for that model. Up for sale or trade
How much
@@jasminedavis7105 I sold it.
Way to lean. Dam.
Why would you run it that lean and not tune it properly? This is the kind of shit that blows engines and makes people stop doing this. Dyno is a great tuning tool and you didn't give a damn just sent it for some numbers. I would be ashamed
Automatic *cringe* lol
Its a Lentech, pretty good for an auto
That tune is hot garbage lol
4.6 are the biggest pig, y they dicontinued them, designed for efficiency
Cool story bro 👍
Not really. This is just a 25 year old 4.6 liter sohc engine with a power sucking auto in it. The 4.6 does just fine for what it is ecsp with 4v heads. Matter of fact the 4.6 4v ecsp with the teksid block built vs built will hold its own vs any coyote. The coyote just comes better equipped from the factory as it should it's only like 15+ years newer lol.
How Bama tunes are still in business is remarkable. Total trash. Stay away.