Ruric Thar vs Yisan vs Lord Windgrace vs Muldrotha EDH / CMDR game play video
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Muldrotha didn't get removed, ONCE. hahahaha saw that coming.
The moment Pete killed Adam from full life instead of Steve I knew the game would be over, Muldrotha is the kind of commander that you kill on sight or suffer from the recursion.
Proper threat assessment never existed in this game.
Steve was doing all the removing and still had the cards to win! I think their may have been some untold politics we didn't hear.
When Chaos Warp revealed Pattern of Rebirth, it should have been put into play enchanting an opponent's creature. There's no 'may' there. Great game, though. Everyone got to do their thing. It wasn't a 'non-game' for anyone due to flood, screw or shenanigansfrom an opponent. It also helps that I really like all 4 commanders played here. I want to build a Muldrotha deck, but I already have a Sultai deck and another would just delay me from completing the Rainbow Challenge.
I came here to say this, but in my heart I knew it had already been said.
Did Steve have no hand when he popped "Steve"? Because he was supposed to have taken damage from Vicious Shadows equal to the number of cards in his hand every time a creature died... unless John forgot about the triggers.
At 12:10 it does look like he's mostly empty handed. Makes sense with all the dredging.
Shadows is a really strong card, so I'm surprised it didn't come up.
You are correct. He had no hand at that point.
@@MTGMuddstah But he had walk the aeons at least in hand, since he didn't draw between Steve dieing and him playing it. it was only one, but fell really weird.
I gotta have words with that Yisan player. Total disregard for versing at the correct time.
yep, and not to be a hater but he also made questionable tutors as well.
That’s FoxNoctom. He’s got a CZcams channel. His Yisan deck is different than usual.
Why did that muldrotha survive so much time on the board? My Muldrotha dies as soon as it hits the field
Because the other players severely underestimated the power of having Yawgmoth's Will for free every turn, not to mention the combo potential coming with it.
Did the other players even have removal? I wasn't watching like a hawk to see what the next creature kill-spell was thrown at.
@@Arvensa
There was plenty of artifact/enchantment removal. If we're just talking about creature removal:
2:45 , 9:40 , 9:53 , 10:26
A lot of the players were likely worried about being beat down. Muldrotha decks often are not aggro.
Yes and why didn't Yisan player use the scavenging ooze to exile Muldrotha's gy in response to the fetchland ability?
Awesome video!! This definitely gives me ideas for my muldrotha deck!! Big fan of your channel, it’s my favorite to watch because of time length and consistency. 🤘
Why in the ever loving hell would adam not exile seal of doom in response to steve cracking his fetch for black?
That Windgrace is my deck as well so dying to it just makes Me a proud papa. Also yes you got my name right, but no I will never get off your back.
Fox love your commentary I hope you get better from being sick
This video made "Pattern of Rebirth" look GODLY!! Thanks for showing us a great matchup!! : ]
that was a very fun game, because for the first time in a long time I see someone else playing a yisan deck that is not a cedh. pretty cool hydra build, and hope to see more of that deck
This is why you include some graveyard hate in your decks !
Awesome game though, a shame we didn't see more of Ruric Thar.
Took the words right out of my mouth. Hardly anyone runs graveyard hate these days and if muldrotha just stays on the battlefield with no graveyard disruption it will win 9/10 times.
I think people don't run a lot of graveyard hate because they all like using the graveyard.
Except for mono-red maybe, there you just have Feldon and pheonixes, but everything else has at least a couple of really good graveyard interaction card.
@@sephyrias883 And Deretti, Scrap Savant. Nasty GY deck.
IMHO, every deck needs at least one piece of graveyard hate. Whether it be Scooze, Tormod's Crypt, Rest in Peace, etc. It always deserves a slot in your deck.
i just watched this video again 2 years later and Adam and I still talk about the 40 to dead to this day it was a very proud moment
Yisan's one of my favorite commanders, so I'm really happy to see him here! He needs more love, man!
Idk why but , i was mesmerized by the way the guy names Steve played. Would love to see him do battle again, very entertaining player to watch.
I actually thought the Walk the Aeons "combo" was a cool way for the Muldrotha deck to win. Maybe I'll have to add that to my Tatyova deck. In general I don't like taking extra turns in EDH, but that would be a single card and would require a lot of the setup a lands deck is natually doing.
Chaos Warp reveals the Pattern of Rebirth but when it can't be put into play it should stay on top. Instead it went into his graveyard.
Scavenging Ooze could have eaten the Seal of Doom? And the Polluted Delta? I think the mana was available with the Arbor Elf and the Birds? Maybe he was keeping up mana for another spell?
Missed Beast Whisperer trigger on Kamahl cast.
Missed a Vicious Shadows Trigger on Sakura-Tribe Elder and Pete could've blocked with his Dualcaster Mage and had another trigger, John could've blocked and gotten some more triggers, it was never clear how many cards Steve had in hand so not sure if it would have mattered, but if there were 5 cards in hand he would have taken 10 from those 2 triggers and probably been unable to attack.
Steve had no hand by the time the Vicious Shadow triggers came around. John didn't exactly want to use them on Pete.
I believe the Pattern would be put onto the battlefield, forcing Steve to enchant a creature even though he doesn’t control any of his own.
They also didn't destroy Trre of Tales when Bane of Progress hit
Steve also didn’t discard two cards for the buyback cost when forbid was countered. ... that’s a whole lot of misplays for the winner of the game. *cough *cough
Oops, Yes as pointed out by many the Pattern should have went into play. These are not faults, they are learning experiences for the players and myself. I am not complaining, I love the content, keep up the good work Muddstah!
Evil Adam?
So much dredging and loaming action. I LOVE it.
Imagine having a scaveging ooze against a graveyard based deck and then forget what ooze does...
Not sure what y'all were thinking leaving Muldrotha on the table like that. It's unstoppable past a certain point.
this was great! yisan is my favorite deck and I also have ruric!! will have to tweak both and its good to see examples of these decks in action
2:45 - Wouldn't Steve have to enchant a creature with the Pattern of Rebirth he flipped off of the Chaos Warp?
Never actually seen the walk the aeons combo before. I also happen to have it in a deck I just made... good to know lol
nice infinite turn, good synergie off cards thumbs up
I was unsure if I wanted Karador or Anafenza for my future Abzan Persist deck... after seeing Muldrotha here, I think I'm going with Anafenza. :')
Very cool game, awesome plays. I hoped ruric thar would stick around longer
My friend John and I went toe to toe in cEDH with Muldrotha vs Prossh, and I love the combos Muldrotha enables. I had a turn 4 win in my opening hand so I kept it, but his Muldrotha deck beat the table on turn 3 with Notorious Throng and turn taking. He didn't go infinite, he simply repeated a turn primarily to move to combat with 40 faerie rogues several times. It was pretty great and I really want to build it.
So much green! I love it!!!!
WOW this was a great match. I was so eager to see the Yisan deck go off. But hot damn that Muldrotha deck was spicy! I have her as well, and I honestly think Muldrotha is the best commander to come out in the last few years. She enables so many shenanigans. Its dumb. LOL
Don't worry Muddstah, we are working on a new intro for you! 😉
I still can't wait for the day Alex, Martin and Muddstah have a matchup!! : ] Also when can I steal you guys for an intro? xD
@@BTGamenight What are you talking about?
That into throw me for a loop, love to see you guys in the video
for every deck I am gonna do I first check in your channel.
What happened to the Vicious Shadows triggers?
The way to beat Muldrotha decks is to kill Muldrotha constantly and repeatedly and powerful graveyard hate. Neither of these things happened, so Muldrotha wins.
Also ugh extra turns spells, hate those. But that's a personal hate.
You don't even need to kill muldrotha, since Command Beacon makes it so that you can go around the command tax. Graveyard hate is the way to go. I have a Muldrotha deck and graveyard hate shuts me down completely. It just needs to be something you can do over and over again. A single bojuka bog doesn't cut it.
Id say extra turn spells are oretty unanimously hates. Like olay what you want and if extra turns get you going thats fine, but its the lamest effect in a 4 player game.
I run muldrotha as well I don’t need to cast her to win she just expedites the process
Anti-play of the game: Thar using duplicant on Ob Nixilis as opposed to the targeting the Muldrotha’s board. I doubt Windgrace had the landfall to make him big again and I doubt he would’ve targeted Thar with it for at least a turn.
Why didnt Vicious Shadows trigger when Steve sacrificed the Sakura? Am i missing something?
I was on the fence before, but now I really want to build Yisan.
Chaos warp mills now? Stay awesome muddstah.
Why wasn’t he using Vicious Shadows trigger when the Steve kept getting binned?
I love you muddstah
muldrotha was awesome at the end stage.
The game was over as soon as the Azusa Crucible Walk the Aeons loop was assembled. Brutal! But cool game!
Love these vids. Can i ask a question though? Is there a reason you pronounce Regal force the way you do? Just wondering if there was some errata or something put out by WOTC about that card's name. I have to do a double take every time i hear it :D
Mostly because I'm weird. I think I kept getting it confused with the French pronunciation.
@@MTGMuddstah as a fellow weird person, that's more than enough for me. I was honestly just curious - lots of fun inside jokes flying around in the MTG community. Cheers.
From personal experience, I can also confirm that taking someone from 40 to dead in one turn in EDH can be really, really fun. (In my case, I cast Berserk on my unblocked 20/20 Ulvenwald Hydra, giving it 40 power.)
Also, I always love seeing Muldrotha and Windgrace show up for a game! (Two of my own generals)
"And blows up, defenseof the heart."
02:51 Chaos warp => Pattern of Rebirth , there were 4 creatures in play , and He MUST attach it to one of them
This doesn't apply (explanation 9/22/2011) , because it is "Enchant creature" , not "Enchant creature you control" , and there were 4 creatures in play
9/22/2011 - If the revealed card is a permanent card but can’t enter the battlefield (perhaps because it’s an Aura with nothing to enchant), it remains on top of that library.
303.4f If an Aura is entering the battlefield under a player’s control by any means other than by resolving as an Aura spell, and the effect putting it onto the battlefield doesn’t specify the object or player the Aura will enchant, that player chooses what it will enchant as the Aura enters the battlefield. *The player must choose a legal object or player according to the Aura’s enchant ability and any other applicable effects.*
Doesn't Blood Moon mean Tree of Tales lives through Bane of Progress anyway? Its type-line reads Basic Land -- Mountain at that point.
There has to be better 4 drop options for both Yisan and Birthing Pod than Solemn.
I wonder if anyone has tried a different build for windgrace other than land matters
Muldrotha is my favorite, but I'm going for Ruric Thar this time
I love the watching your videos my only pet peeve is that instead of showing the art of the card that was actually played you just choose a random art which means if i'm looking at the board and i'm a new player/ don't know about a specific card i'm not gonna see the card on the board and be confused.. ex: @4:30 instead of showing the Solemn with the matching art you chose a different art which potentially could be confusing.. I know the card so it wasn't that big of a deal but its a simple change that i.m.o increases the quality and clarity of the show.. BUT cheers another good episode..
Hey Muddstah, at 2:50 Steve should've been forced to enchant an opponent's creature with Pattern of Rebirth, as Chaos Warp's ability isn't optional :)
5:11 This is a nitpick, but Underrealm Lich applies a replacement effect to drawing cards just like Tomorrow Azami's Familiar does. It does not "trigger". Since you are the narrator here, it would be prudent to use the correct terminology and not proliferate the notion of using "trigger" for everything that happens in Magic (except actual triggered abilities - if you get that reference).
I appreciate the correction! I'll do my best to keep that in mind moving forward. I'm by no means a Magic professional, so there might be hiccups along the way.
@@MTGMuddstah Excellent! Thank you :)
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Seeing Pattern of Rebirth used for value is confusing to me. I only ever saw it used for combo based win conditions until it's recent reprinting.
at: 3:00 there are valid target for Patern of rebirth, why does Steve get to put it into his graveyard?
animeexpresscon he also didn’t pay the buyback cost for forbid by discarding two cards when it got countered....
Really liked seeing that Dualcaster copying the Forbid!
Backround music would be nice.
Salutes from México
Did Adam draw when the Simulacrum died to Bane of Progress? He points to the Simulacrum, as if he was announcing his trigger but we do not see him actually draw any cards from it.
Yea I did.
I love you're videos as always Muddstah! My only gripe with this is that I'm very familiar with Muldrotha and Yisan. My groups tend to be a little cutthroat and as a result I was wondering why this game wasn't over very quickly on both accounts. No complaints about the winning combo as it's neat, but like you said, it's a 3-4 card combo, and Muldrotha has far better win cons available. I was sure Yisan would win with the Seedborn muse out as, you can go basically infinite with the right cards.
It was a fun watch regardless, only spoiled by my own desire to see combos. ahaha
My yisan deck is far from competitive, and I actually dont think I run a single infinite combo. I built it just to run silly big green creatures and value cards. My playgroup is way more casual and laid back so it gives me the opportunity to play slowly and goof around.
IIIColinIII I think the majority enjoyed how it played out. No need for cedh combo stuff.
@@FoxNoctom Fair enough, like I said, I'm all for it. I actually watch muddstah religiously at this point as I love the diversity and learn about plenty of cards a lot of the time. Everyone has their decks tuned for their play groups. I'm not saying it's a bad thing.
@@vengray8055 I didn't say there was, I'm saying my expectations of certain commanders in this particular game made me realize my group is a little more tuned than some. I'm just noting that I saw the commanders and was exciting only to realize they aren't made in the same line as the ones in my group. The majority can and I'm sure did enjoy it, I did too, but I just expected more from the decks I know and play and as a result was constantly thinking things like "this would be a better play if they searched x card here" and so on.
My group is far from CEDH, but it's def a little more tuned than average I'd say. Also, you say that like combos are bad. They are part of what makes EDH fun, seeing neat combos people make to win.
Thanks for the like Muddstah! Keep pumping out the quality content!
Why did Pattern of Rebirth go to the graveyard?
Took John a little long to concede to the Infinite combo.
What happened whit the Steve's jokes?
how awesome will be if Sam Riegal make one intro with Nott voice hm
Pete shouldnt get to dredge because the lich replaces his draw already, right?
Dredge is also a replacement, so the affected player can choose which to apply. Then the other no longer applies.
natural order???
Steve is the only reason I’m here...he’s a MTG god tier 3, don’t fucking @ me
If you think Pete taking out Adam in one turn was wild, then you should send my Windgrace deck in action. It does that same thing but to all opponents lol
John had vicious shadows which would've killed steve when he was constantly sacrificing his elder
All green commanders no white one, good.
I hope Ruric Thar wins !
yo who is this steve guy?
Oh yeah yeah
anyone realize that john had vicious shadows at the end there and if steve had a hand because i wasn't paying attention could've killed him
Steve had no hand at that point =(
John actually could had won if he remember the Vicious Shadows triggers. It happens Whenever a creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may have Vicious Shadows deal damage to target player equal to the number of cards in that player's hand. When finding lands with sakkura this would had trigger the shadow and possible killed steve. Just saying because there was no mention of the triggers in the game play and steve still had cards in his hand to take damage.
As a Ruric player I have to say Johns Ruric deck always frustrates me. What is the point of Goblin Bombardment? Also Crystal Ball seems so slow as well.
Its a primal surge deck with budget stuff in it (crystal ball over top). The bombardment comes out with vicious shadows on surge and is there in case for some reason craterhoof and rest of deck cant get around a pillowfort or anything of the like, but they also work with any of the minor token gen creatures I run just to get some damage in tandem with ruric
Did he just forget to trigger Vicious Shadows or am I just crazy?
god Muldrofa makes my karador deck look like a chump
Guy named Steve, played dumb at beginning, then schooled these dudez by the end of the game. He a nasty beast at dis game. Keep him around for more gamez.
Also, upon further review, he has very sexy hands.
Yisan? Ruh-Roh, Raggy!
When Kalonian Hydra attacked it should have doubled the number of +1/+1 counters on each creatures Adam controlled, not just the Kalonian Hydra. I think he missed the trigger. Just giving a heads up for the future.
What else had counters though?
The Ulvenwald Hydra had 9 counters in it and whatever creature that was in-between the hydras had 2.
The Ulvenwald had a die on it to represent how many lands he controlled, not counters.
The Wall of Roots had -1/1 counters on it.
Ah! I mistook the Ulvenwald for a different hydra I think. My mistake. Love your content, by the way.
Why did he waste an entomb on crucible when he had Muldrotha out?
Muldrotha only lets you play one land per turn from your yard. The Crucible + Azusa lets you play three from your yard a turn.
MTG Muddstah ah didn't think of that.
Why didn't I know that Pattern of Rebirth was a thing until just now?? There's no justice in the world lol
Interesting rules mistake here, the patron of rebirth should have enchanted one of adam's or john's creatures, you can't choose not to enchant anything.
im almost certain the reason why your channel is so succesful is your soothing voice that is perfect for broadcasting. I do like affinity for commander but its a pain having to listen to their voices (Im really sorry guys I appreciate your work but youre just not made for broadcasting)
Scumbag Steve not just saying "yeah, this is an infinite" and instead playing it out.
Lol, jk, it was a fun video
But that's the best way to go about it lmao
I'm glad this Yisan deck was a little different to the usual combo Yisan. Not a fan of that commander no matter how it's built however.
Muldrotha translates to English as “resilient as hell”. My friends loath mine and I play it a little more casual too.
is that evil adam?
or is that boring adam
It's Other Adam
@@MTGMuddstah oh
ok
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That Adam needs more EVIL!
I would like to point out that Ruric thars effect is commander damage
Commander damage is exclusively linked to combat damage.
@@MTGMuddstah wait really?? Purphoros's effect isn't commander damage?
mtgcommander.com/rules.php
Play Rule #11: "If a player has been dealt 21 points of combat damage by a particular Commander during the game, that player loses a game."
So, yep! Even Purphoro's damage from creatures entering doesn't count as commander damage.
Damn, just had to play the blood moon, huh?
I play all basics, its pretty solid some of the time lol
Um @2:52 he should of kept it on top not put that aura in his graveyard
Great content, but when will you start pronouncing all the cards right? Like Skewra Tribe Elder is Sakura, like from Naruto. And so on.
Never.
What is Adam's "furry" deck. I wanna see that haha
My furry deck IS that windgrace deck lol
@@FoxNoctom oh fuck yeah. Love it! I've been wanting to make a windgeace furry deck haha. Not enough artistic support so I just settle on ajani tribal.
Yisan now banned as a commander whoops
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Ruric thar is prison magic lmao
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This Steve on Steve violence disgusted me. One like is one more Steve saved.