TES4: Oblivion Analysis | A Quick Retrospective
Vložit
- čas přidán 6. 05. 2024
- Want to know how to tell if someone is an Oblivion fan? Me too.
Sections:
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:06:27 - Oblivion Intro
00:16:15 - Character Creation
00:26:24 - The Arena
00:56:41 - The Arena II
01:15:26 - The Fighters Guild
01:48:18 - The Fighters Guild II
02:27:47 - The Mages Guild
03:18:39 - The Mages Guild II
04:16:44 - The Main Quest
04:42:23 - The Main Quest II
05:19:07 - The Main Quest III
05:53:27 - The Main Quest IV
06:27:22 - The Knights of the Nine
07:06:01 - The Knights of the Nine II
07:28:44 - The Thieves Guild
07:51:00 - The Thieves Guild II
08:28:53 - The Dark Brotherhood
09:25:36 - The Daedra
10:18:40 - The Daedra II
10:56:17 - The Shivering Isles
11:43:53 - Conclusion
12:00:00 - The End
The first [56:42] have been transcribed into accurate [English] subtitles. The remainder was generated using Premiere Pro, as CZcams refused to provide an auto-caption for this video. I am trying to add to this where I have time.
Full Bibliography - pastebin.com/yR8QSttS
[1] Morrowind Character Planner - morrowind.jpbetley.com/
[2] Oblivion Character Planner - linklost.com/occ/
[3] The Making of Oblivion (41:25) - • The Making of Oblivion...
[4] Gamasutra, Emil Pagliarulo
[5] Fallout Wiki Archive EP
[6] Gamasutra, Ken Rolston Interview
Blank Map of Tamriel, Cyrodiil - www.deviantart.com/fredoric10...
Map Number Two - www.imperial-library.info/con...
Map Number Three - OblivionSource.com
[7] Oblivion Fan Interview - en.uesp.net/wiki/General:Obliv...
[8] Xbox 360 Sales Numbers
[9] E3 2005 viewership
[10] RPGamer Gavin Carter interview
[11] Ken Rolstone interview
[12] Pete Hines discussing DLC - • Oblivion CANCELLED Hol...
[13] Oblivion e3 2005 Gameplay Demo
[14] Decrypting the Elder Scrolls | GameInformer
[15] Making of Thief 2
[16] Alan Nanes
[17] Erik J Caponi
[18] Microsoft | E3 2005 - • E3 2005 - Complete Mic...
[19] Shivering Isles Education
[20] Ted Petersen Interview
[21] Douglas Goodall Interview
[22] Power Attack Fatigue Penalty
[23] Jeremy Soule Interview
[24] Megan Sawyer
[25] Megan Sawyer Portfolio
[26] Mark Nelson’s Fighters Guild
[27] Fallout 4 Reddit Moment
[28] Cutting Room Floor, Arena
[29] Talks from STORY: Emil Pagliarulo - • Talks from STORY: Emil...
[30] Bethesda Podcast | Oblivion 5th Anniversary - • Bethesda Podcast: Obli...
[31] Michael Kirkbride | Camoran Speech
[32] GameSpot | Knights of the White Stallion
[33] videogamer.com | Knights of the Nine is cheap
[34] Trial of Vivec - www.imperial-library.info/con...
[35] Old Wikipedia Article on Oblivion - en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?...
[36] Shivering Isles Schizoaffective
[37] Oblivion Royal Guard Armor - www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mo...
[38] The Psychology of Video Games Week 2
Oblivion Reviews
[1] WillLovesVideoGames | Oblivion Retrospective - • The Elder Scrolls IV: ...
[2] NeverKnowsBest | Elder Scrolls Analysis: Oblivion Strikes Back - • An Elder Scrolls Analy...
[3] DimeTree | Elder Scrolls Problem: Oblivion - • The Elder Scrolls Prob...
[4] The Salt Factory | Was Oblivion As Good as I remember? - • Was Oblivion as good a...
[5] EphiTV | Everything About Spellcrafting That Bethesda Didn’t Want You To Know - • Everything About Spell...
[6] GameSpot | Oblivion Is Still Excellent 15 Years Later - • Oblivion Is Still Exce...
[7] Private Sessions | TES4 Oblivion Deconstruction - • TES4 Oblivion Deconstr...
take him to brazil - • take him to brazil
#Patrician #Oblivion - Hry
Thanks to everyone who supported me the past 10 months. Read this comment before you respond:
NIRNROOT: Yes I said it weird. You can apparently drop Nirnroot on at least the Steam version of Oblivion. It's weird because I've had conversations IRL about not being able to drop Nirnroot, and it's one of the chief complaints of the Nirnroot quest I've heard (being that you have to collect ~100 of them just to be able to finally stop carrying them around). Those memories came from the physical PC copy as well as the 360 copy, in case anyone wants to look into it.
HACKDIRT: Yes, I'm aware that Hackdirt is a Lovecraft reference. I figured a fake out referencing an obscure film from the 60s was an obvious enough joke. Do you actually think I knew what "Shadow over Elveron" was prior to writing this script? It was a made for TV film from the late 60s, it's so obscure the novel it was based on doesn't even have a wikipedia page. "Shadow over Innsmouth" is, however, not an obscure reference. The joke is predicated on you thinking I'm about to say "Shadow over Innsmouth" and then faking you out at the last second. Thanks for playing along, you can stop telling me now.
MOUNT AND BLADE: I did not say that Mount and Blade came after Mordhau. That paragraph is just structured badly, also I was lazy and used the Bannerlord footage I already had rather than getting new Warband footage. I mention Morrowind first, then clarify that Mordhau has directional attacks, and then say that Mount and Blade also used directional attacks, which was supposed to be relative to the first subject, not the second. The idea was to progress the idea backwards, and then show that Elder Scrolls pre-dated it all.
Thank YOU
This is the only time I'll fell like staying up for 20 hours was justified
Thanks man!
12:00:00 my man
THANK YOU
Now that you've done a quick analysis. Do an in depth, time consuming one.
Yea boii
70 hours later
He would do a 15 second review of a gamr
I disagree. This was too long and I didn't like it, so I clicked off at 11:55:00. Boring!
Yea this is half a days work, I want a full one
I just love how he titled this 12 hour video "A Quick Analysis" as if he's threatening us that he can easily make a longer version
Foreshadowing of skyrim analysis which would probably be 20 hours
Lmao!
Skyrim - A Brief Overview
Video length - 48 hours
@@Michael-bx8up Can CZcams videos even be that long?
Threatening?
The worst part about these videos being so fucking long is that I take for granted that they're going to keep going. When they finally end it's a truly sad moment, given how engaging it is the entire way.
YEP
i listen to videos like these while i work and every time one ends i’m like “what now” and have to stop what i’m doing to scroll through my watch later looking for another 1hr+ long video i haven’t had the time to watch yet
@@yourehereforthatarentyou I’ve listened to this video all the way through several times in the last two weeks because nothing really scratches the itch. I don’t want to listen to my usual podcasts while I work because they’re usually really informationally dense (and related to my field of work) and I feel bad missing stuff. This masterpiece though? I can tune out or tune in as needed
@@yourehereforthatarentyousame, i already watched his skyrim and morrowind videos, i’m nervous to finish this one coz other channels’ retrospectives don’t hit the same way
Mm-hmm! 😂
The whiplash of talking about a quest line, going on a tangent about something else in the middle of it, and then slamming back to the questline suddenly is great.
Holding multiple things in one's mind sure is hard.
@@baronvonbeandipif your brain is damaged goods, sure. he was writing a script, meaning he had plenty of time to internalize his thoughts, going from one tangent to another seamlessly. thats why this video is so great, subtle humor, great structure, and a whole heap of verifiable information to back all of his arguments
The Perma-Virgin 10-minute review vs the Omega-Chad 12-hour quick retrospective
The only true full length review would be a novel
This might only be fore saving streams but doesn’t CZcams have a 12 hour limit?
@@dannyb2344 there are videos on CZcams that are way longer but they are also years old so they might have changed policies sense then
Long Man Good!
@@9manny99 well, by length, this technically is a novel in audiobook format lol
Worth the 12 hours I'd say
I am so happy that you’ve watched this! You guys are doing incredible work, thank you
Every single minute of it
certainly
I'd imagine retrospectives like this help iron out things youre trying to correct in the remake mod, like level scaling. Hope it goes well, that'll prolly be what gets me into oblivion lol
100%
They had the perfect excuse to get rid of Levitation and Teleportation and they chose not to use it; just say that it was in some way tied to the Heart of Lorkhan. That the heart's destruction sent magical shockwaves through the world that altered the way that certain magic worked, making some spells no longer possible. You can even say the change was gradual so it makes sense you could still use them in the Morrowind post game. It might sound flimsy, but it is ten thousand times more believable than "everyone collectively pinky promised not to use two of the coolest and most useful magical powers that any being can possess."
Very similar to how the Tribunal’s powers were waning
I would have never thought of that!
It makes me wonder if the devs that worked on oblivion had even played morrowind, let alone worked on it.
@@honeybadger6275yes, it's almost entirely the same dev team, just larger.
These changes were made deliberately to give the game wider appeal
@@doghat1619 They doubled the size of the company between oblivion and morrowind, and several key figures left after morrowind. But tell me more about how that constitutes "almost entirely the same."
@@honeybadger6275 which key figures left after morrowind?
Oblivion was my first Bethesda game and I managed to accidently become a vampire without realizing it and kept vaguely wondering why I kept getting hurt when I went outside and why all the NPCs were constantly telling me how awful I looked. And then I tried to pickpocket someone who was asleep and saw the "feed" button and was like "I can... feed them??" So I clicked it and my character started feeding ON them and that was when it all finally clicked.
10/10, excellent roleplaying experience.
If youre roleplaying as a rube unaware what vampires are in the setting then sure.
@@boogit9979 if ya never realized vampires were a thing or they can turn ya into one by punching ya like how people use to think AIDs are spread it makes sense esp with it being their first ever bethsada game. no other vampirism is spread like that.
Ye man and also trump is 10/10 too
That sounds like a very funny RPG experience XD
@@NigerianCrusaderDRUMPF
"whoever made this UI doesn't use magic"
Earlier "Todd is a barbarian main"
after watching this entire 12 hour long video I still can't get over how an Argonian lady sends two people to drown to death out of curiosity while she has a natural water breathing ability, and yet somehow she's the good guy and gets a promotion for it?
Oh wow I feel stupid now for never realizing that. I play Argonians all the time, how did this slip past me?
@@jokig Because you play Argonians all the time.
@@jokig Turns out, so did she
Wait i kinda forgot the story. Wasn't the person who sent ppl to drown a Guy and not the Argonian lady??
@@shaynehughes6645 i finally remembered. "You will retrieve this ring for me. Should you manage to do so, I shall consider sending a recommendation to the University. The well is locked, so you'll need the key. Deetsan should have a copy of it" Falcar told the "stupid associate" to retrieve the ring. The Argonian Lady did not
As a player who chooses not to use fast travel, the Fighter's Guild questline is quite a challenge to my patience.
I have an obsession with leveling up my Athletics so I don't really mind
@@HaispawnerOh yeah? How much you bench? lol
@@baronvonbeandip*jumps over a mountain with half a ton in his backpack*
Fast Travel is mandatory in skyrim/fallout 4 because world is dead. I have not played other games but I assume same. Once you clear something there is no reason to return it.
@@zao9256 That's untrue on multiple levels. I also play Skryim without fast-traveling. If anything there's more density of activities in Skyrim than Oblivion. So you can hit a few locations up the first time you pass a certain way, then a few more the next time, and so on--because there are so many locations in the wilderness. And things re-spawn.
Watching this in 2023 and having seen the Skyrim video in all its 20 hour glory, it was emotional for me as well hearing you sound so unsure about the concept of you being able to pull it off.
You did it man, and we loved it!
Whenever Elder Scrolls 6 comes out, were gonna get a 40 hour "Quick" Retrospective.
Finest _Skyrim_ review I've ever seen. The explanations to his many, _many_ points is best-tier, not to mention his memes were often unexpectedly riotous.
You got emotional? Wtf....
@@Gyrfalcon312 Dude that's what I love most about his videos, there are few jokes inbetween but if you pay attention and pick up on them they're always incredibly funny and memorable at least to me.
People: Wanna go watch a movie
Me: Sorry I don't got time
Also Me: Watches 6 movies worth of oblivion analysis
Were you the one who made the same comment on the Morrowind video?
I loved it then and the callback now is even better!
Truth
"This game is shit, I can't hit anything!"
-Mannimarco, wielding a dagger he doesn't have the skills to use properly.
It's always that fucking -iron- silver dagger.
The legendary and infamous Necromancer runs out of magicka after 1 spell
i mean, how are you spose to know that if its your first time playing a es game?
@@zelexen By - Ghasp - READING the description of the skill or the game's manual?
@@captainufo4587 to be fair, most new players to Morrowind don't buy physical copies that have the manual. However, some reading can help have a basic, if somewhat uninformed understanding.
9:15:59 the player just standing there while matthieu bellamont's master plan of...... trying to stab a ghost(?) just happens in front of you always drove me insane
That explains how you got to the 9 hour mark of this youtube video
Sneaky Skooma Cat
Jump in the caac
I actually like the potato quests. The reason is partially what you say, but also for the realistic yet mundane beauty of it. Sometimes I want to be a hero, other times, I just want to be a wandering traveler passing through at the right time, and I might not solve some confound dilema, but just doing normal people things for normal people. Maybe if I stick around someone will have a bigger quest, or maybe I’ll move on to the next town and just be remembered as the girl who got the potato’s back, and I genuinely like that
Agreed. I love the idea of being just a small time hero in certain towns. To some, i am a destined hero, some powerful warrior capable of almost rewriting the laws of the universe.
To others, i am simply a helpful hand.
Check out kingdom come deliverance. It has a historical setting, and a lot of the quests are very low stakes. It was a real nice breath of fresh air for someone who has played tons of fantasy rpgs where you end up saving the world.
@@Steve_Everyman I’ve started a few runs. Really fun game! I love the combat in it
Can't spend every day whaling on Satan. Gotta slow down, smell the roses, and deliver a package for some guy sometimes.
I've been enjoying falling asleep to random sections of this and waking up to a different video every night
thought i was the only guy who did that
Good I'm not alone
That’s exactly how I view these lol
These and Action Button’s videos are the best for that
I still feel like there’s always a new section to fall asleep too
This is great because by the time I finish watching it, I've forgotten what was said at the start and get to enjoy it all over again. This is the only content I need now. This shall sustain me.
Lol
Lmao
@@BrickleYourFrickle Simple, there's too much info to digest all at once. You can probably come back and pick up on points you might've missed or forgotten by the end durations of 12hours. Especially if you have to pause, or god forbid watch it all in one sitting. Currently watched it like twice now, and am 6 hours into it. I sat through all 6 so far all at once.
i will not eat, this video continues my life
The rewatch value is immense.
writer of the dark brotherhood
"I dont know much about the dark brotherhood but I am the writer for the questline and instead of doing research, I decided to do my own thing"
I see some problems here
That's just Emil Pagliarulo. Hes not capable of anything else. Everything he writes has to be a *shock! HORROR!* CRAAZZYYY TWIST! Like everything. He always has to try and hit you with a shocking twist "no one seen coming," but his writing is so fucking abysmal EVERYONE can tell what he's doing. Then he acts cheeky like "nah nah that's not what it is... *Chuckle giggle* haha that's exactly what it was! I had you fooled!" Like, nah man, you didn't. We all knew but because you had to have what you wanted to happen, happen regardless if we caught on or not, and we couldn't call your BS out because you wouldn't let us do anything about the fact that we could tell the drops changed, we can even get Mathius to react to the head of the mother and it's like "dude we fucking know who the traitor is,' but Emil is like "oh no but you actually don't! It's a twist!" Like bro, we fucking know, your writing isn't that deep and it isn't that encompassing.
But he somehow gets the reigns to destroy everything they have released since then. Like holy damn.
Bro... "Using scrolls as a way to test new spell ideas..."
That is legit a genius idea. Scroll testing becomes the method through which you acquire spells and, eventually bind them into a spell tome for semi-permanent use. Not only does that justify spell-tomes' existence but also retroactively makes scrolls as cost effective consumable that doesn't supplant casting for real mages but makes the use of magic accessible to non-magic characters.
I could swear there's a TRPG I've played that has this exact system, but I can't place it. Would be great to see in a CRPG though, I agree.
"You up this weekend?"
"Nah man, I'm watching THE Oblivion retrospect"
"You up this weekend?"
"No"
"Why, are you watching THE Oblivion retrospect as well?"
"Nah, I'm just watching the quick analysis"
My friend literally called me yesterday and asked if I was free. He wasnt ready for my response of watching a 12 hour long video on Oblivion.
"Completely get it, enjoy"
this guy gets it
"Using the ring we honorably looted of Sir Amiel's corpse." Look I appreciate that more than halfway through your script you still had a good sense of humor.
Yep and trump has a great humor too
@@NigerianCrusaderwhat is this even for?
@@BigPanda096 TRUMP HAS GOOD HUMOR DUDE NOW VOTE TRUMP IN 2024
Others have said this, but I think Kingdom Come Deliverance shows you can have a combat system not based around dice rolls, yet still heavily taking into account your character's in game skills. All the combat skills in Kingdom come are based around some combination of the weapon stat and a corresponding attribute. And you see large change in Henry as you level up.
At level 1, your sword swings are slow, your parry window is miniscule, and even a bandit in rags will probably give you some trouble. You also don't have access to combos that give you a leg up. You also tend to waste your stamina a lot more. At higher levels, he is much faster, can parry more easily, and can even do things like feint. It's an excellent demonstration of becoming more skilled in a weapon. And much like Morrowind, while the early levels suck, it doesn't actually take more than a bit of training (actual training in KCD) with a weapons trainer to get it to a perfectly usable level.
Archery is actually my favorite example of this as when you first pick up a bow it's nearly impossible to hit anything, the arrows don't fly as hard, the bow shakes and sways all the time, and if you're not wearing armor or a vambrace, you will take damage from using it to show the bowstring hitting henry's arm. A few levels and you don't need the vambrace anymore. A few more and you're arrows fly farther and hit harder, and by level 20 you're steady as a rock.
I see your point about dice rolls influencing and think that it could work but I think a system like this, where you see actual progression and the skill becomes literally easier to use mechanically with the same actions giving better results but with more input and feedback from the player, is a better way of dealing with the combat issue, espcially for a first person 3d rpg.
*Breaks shoulder trying to fire arrow*
Morrowind used dice rolls to simulate this since it was very difficult to make an advanced combat system like this back in 2002, especially considering the time crunch Bethesda was under
Bannerlord, which he does mention, is similarly good at this. Your attack stats go up, but so does your swing speed to the point that your high level character is indistinguishable from your first level guy.
@@scottwerner279 I don't think indistinguishable is the right word.
lol you're right, I wrote this half asleep this morning. @@daedalus6433
I like the idea of the CoC becoming Sheogorath, because it matches what happened to Martin quite well. Martin mantled an Aedra, possibly the most powerful of the Aedra, while the CoC goes on to mantle a Daedra, and is probably the most powerful Daedra now that he has full control of his realm and most of the power of Jyggalag.
Nice CoC
@@AC-hj9tvStop! You’ve violated the law
He’s stronger than the Dragonborn now and yes it’s canonically him who’s sheogorath now shivering isles is canon and sheorgothath in Skyrim is hero of ivatch also more stronger than the nerevarine and the agent and the eternal hero
@@NigerianCrusader There’s no need to debate who’s stronger. It ultimately doesn’t matter. I was more arguing for the parallels between the CoC and Martin, not between the CoC and any other pc.
@@remuskane8684yep but im just saying that cuz i want to prove that the skyrim community is weaker than oblivion players like myself neveraine is also pretty strong dragonborn is pretty strong too but not as strong as neravine or HOK
6:36:52
"That UI is for another _day."_
24 hour Skyrim analysis video confirmed!
analysis video so long that you can’t even upload it to youtube
@@AsexTwin but if you stream the video it can be done
@@bogdanpostole7251 it would but you wouldn’t be able to rewatch it
No way I just scrolled down and saw this comment right as he said this
Actual week long video incoming
One reason I think Shivering Isles is remembered so fondly by me in particular is that in all the ways Oblivion is uncanny and janky is emboldened in a setting where everything is defined by how uncanny and janky it is
Shivering Isles is honestly kind of genius as an expansion. It's so immersive precisely because it takes advantage of (accidentally or not) how freaking *bizarre* Oblivion is, especially its NPCs. It's my favorite part of Oblivion.
6:20:48 the implication that at the end of time, billions of daedra will dogpile onto tamriel is equal parts terrifying and amusing
Dude Tamrielic lore is fucking insane. I finally understand the whole concept of what Numidium is (dwemer nihilism given form, using the antitones of the aurbis to deny reality at a fundamental level) and it’s left me feeling kinda overmatched by Elder Scrolls writing
I want to be there--in player character form.
"This video isnt meant to be watched in its entirety in one sitting"
Thats a challenge. Challenge accepted.
I still remember watching that E3 demo over and over again, just blew my mind. Remembered freaking out over the chains moving and the ribcage casting live shadows
Damn. Oblivion didn't feel like a game, it felt like some black magic from the year 5000, when we were watching this demo.
Jep. The moving chain was crazy back then
oh hey rycon. i was just watching your dust playthru.
The radiant AI blew my mind. I had one of those Xbox magazine discs with a trailer of Oblivion on it and I would watch it over and over. It was the first game I ever bought for 360. I remember reaching a mountain peak and being like, “Holy. Shit.” The beauty blew me away and honestly, oblivion’s stylized environment (not the faces obviously lmao) still holds up pretty well to me.
I can see it, other than NPCs, I think Oblivion's graphics hold up surprisingly well
20 hours of TES critique and analysis released within 8 months of each other. Not only is your content longer, more girthy, and far meatier, but it's delivered quicker than any other video game critique CZcamsr could possibly compete with
One could say that with that girth, he thrusts his content into the limelight.
What a great way to tell him that his content is worth dick
Penis reference nice
Pause
Really gay way to describe it
I dunno how many times I've watched this, but I have to wonder. How many people have been woken up by that last line. "You've massively overslept."
11:38:37 "Wes Johnson *AND* Wes Johnson" is now an inside joke between my husband and I after I showed him that one amazing section.
"My husband and I"
Implying it isn't Wes Johnson and Wes Johnson.
Honestly, seeing a 12 hour video about something I'm interested in is like finding a gold mine, I'm a security guard and I work 16 hour shifts, so I love shit like this
Wtf 16 hour shifts? How does that work :o
@@igornikolic8192 I only work 3 days a week, and I get like 5 hours of sleep for those 3 days
Wanted to fill a niche I felt was missing having worked my own long, boring shifts.
@@Patrician I respect that
@@igornikolic8192 it works. either you have no sleep, no family, or no life. one of those things has to dodge for the work.
“A quick retrospective”
Is a half day long.
This is the syllabus for a semester of school for scribes in TES76 taking a history course.
It is a day long, as far as people stay awake that is.
TES 76? Oh god please no not another one! *FO76 flashbacks begin*
how do you even speak for that long
@@V0IDST3R you're genuinely stupid if you actually think this was all done in one sitting and not over weeks and months.
@@braydencharles6188 it was 80% a joke or he meant total, also dont like your own comment
Currently packing up for a move, and your longform content is perfect; I can occupy the thinking parts of my brain with your videos while my lizard brain boxes things up in peace.
Hope everything went well for you ❤
Ye man and vote trump
I love this guy. He's sophisticated enough to point out the tendencies and conclusions that people jump to and predict, know, and understand the results, criticism, and judging of his video and addresses them. All in all great video and creator.
When you play enough Oblivion, you get good at predicting generic NPC dialogue.
I think it's very funny that there's a whole faction of mages who broke off to practice a banned magic in Necromancy, but they STILL respect the ban on teleportation and levitation. Can't commit TOO MANY magic crimes I guess
They’re not savages….
Professionals have standards
My favourite thing about it is it's like, the equivalent of the entire government completely outlawing all forms of car/bus/train travel for literally no reason and no-one giving a shit, but then a single school bans smoking SPECIFICALLY in that school because it's harmful to their students and everyone goes apeshit.
Thanks inconsistent storytelling! Very cool!
@@CommieApe it's more not having a good ingame excuse for game mechanics
It's an honor to now only have the second-longest Oblivion retrospective on YT. Congrats and good job, pat.
You still have almost 2 days as number 1, enjoy it while you can
just watched yours, lol while relaxing in a bath... thank you
Guess I know what I'll be watching tonight...
Looking forwards to your 3 day long Fallout 4 essay! 😉
Its a like an inside joke for CZcamsrs to outdo each other on making the longest Oblivion retrospective on CZcams haha
Love how these videos are bite size perfect for watching to the end in one sitting
Ya know, one of the things I appreciate most about your videos is that the audio volume is largely even. No huge volume spikes and screeching nor any sudden drops to whispering makes it perfect for background listening and bed
Pat is pretty consistent about volume. It's great.
If only I could link that one comment on the Skyrim video complaining about the volume spike in the magic section saying 'The audio in this video is terrible'
@baronvonbeandip That's like the one exception to his audio mixing, and it makes sense. He is passionate about it.
I’ve really enjoyed working my way through this.
Just starting the journey now can't wait till I complete it
try tounge but hole
Thanks for mentioning this in Iron's stream. I enjoyed it quite a bit
"I wonder if I'm almost done with this 6 minute intro..."
*18 minutes in*
@@suddenshadow amazing chest ahead
I’m a house painter, I listen to headphones 8hrs a day while I work (plus commuting to and from) so I burn through easily 50 hours of podcasts, audiobooks and CZcams videos. I thoroughly enjoyed your Morrowind video being more audio than visual and the length was no problem for me. I’d love to hear you do these cogent and thoughtful deep dives on every game you’ve ever enjoyed.
what do you do when it rains?
@@omgitzsirairhorn not everyone paints houses and I'm sure a hoodie with some earbuds would still work
@@omgitzsirairhorn on days that it rains, you paint the insides of houses. Or you have the day off. :)
That's awesome makes me want to get my own videos out glad to know other people like me listen to these videos while they get their jobs done and move on with their lives I just don't know what video game I would want to do retrospective on but this guy is my main man I've watched him for inspiration
@@omgitzsirairhorn then we get a indoor job assaigned or taken the day of
I think that Sheogoraths characterization in the Shivering isles is good, and his Morrowind characterization is also good. But those two are different characters, Morrowind Sheo is the God of Madness, he says insane things with a straight face because that is his divine domain, madness is banal to him. Shivering isles Sheo is the Mad God, he himself is insane and he revels in it which makes sense with the story of Sheo and Jygallag. The other daedric princes didn't create Sheo as a god of madness, they turned Jygallag insane. From the way Sheo speaks you can tell that he is himself insane while also being the god of insanity, my only complaint with his sudden outburst is that he should show a wider range of emotions such as crying mid sentence or something like that.
YEP. UT TRUMP IS MORE PWOERULMTHSN SHEOGRAPH
YEP BUT TRUMP IS MORE POWERFUL THAN SHEOGORATH*
"We make stories for the players, not ourselves." That is such a loaded sentence. Honestly, it explains so much about how their storytelling has changed since Todd Howard rose to power.
Instead of playing to their strengths and using environmental storytelling, they increasingly cram garbage characters in to do the 'elder scrolls nativity play'.
Jumping to spoken dialogue was clearly too much of an ask for Bethsoft
@@baronvonbeandiptheir environmental story telling us just throwing a skeleton on the ground. It's not that deep
@@Matt_History you can't just say that about the one thing that is consistently interesting from entry to entry lmao like would we even like caius cossaides without the implication of him being a FIENDISH a crackhead? or what about the legendary skyrim house with a creepy old man, a child, and one bed? Shit, what about the ways that Solitude and Windhelm represent their respective factions in Skyrim? Windhelm, home of the stormcloaks, is constantly experiencing blizzards and is bitterly cold; representing the hardship that old nords weathered to craft out Skyrim despite it's harsh conditions. Meanwhile, Solitude is beautiful and lucious, representative of the Imperials' comfortable way of life, yet also this ease of living makes them somewhat less fit for living in Skyrim.
See? it goes beyond individual props and rooms. They use environmental storytelling for character development, and reinforcing/representing themes, not just making you go "oh ho ho something bad happened in *here*"
@@salmon_winePretty sure you put more thought into this than Bethesda did.
@@Matt_HistoryIt isn't. That's the point. It's still leagues better than anything the writing room pops out.
Mannimarco is actually my favorite fight for one particular reason: It's absolutely awful in basically every way, however, the first time I fought him way back in 07 or so he got lodged up against a part of the underwater tunnel, his path finding ceased to exist and he outright drowned. And the more I learn about the lore, the funnier it becomes
I played that part of the game at the point when common street beasts like bears were a more difficult fight. I legit expected to go back to the university to find that the fight had been a farce and a way to lure me away while the real Mannimarco attacked the heart of the guild.
He was kind of tough for me, mostly because he was bugged and didn't take any damage from my attacks.
Thankfully, it's not like he could do anything to really hurt me, and like you said, I was able to get him to follow me into that underwater tunnel and get him stuck. Drowning DID actually do damage to him, so that's how I won
Mannimarco, the King of Worms, the Necromancer Moon, dies of drowning. Fucking hilarious and it's my new headcannon
@@seancsnm that’s too clever for this game.
imagine Vanus Galerio screaming incoherently in Aetherius because he spent a thousand years trying to kill his shitty ex and some rando in Cyrodiil drowns him on accident
Not sure if this has been mentioned, but you don't even need to take the colossal soul gem from Traven after he kills himself. It changes nothing about the ensuing quest to not have it. So his suicide just comes off as another hilarious act of incompetence on the guild's part.
I did not know that, Bruh moment.
"Let Me quickly kill myself so you can take over the guild"
I love the Mages Guild in Oblivion.
It's like they went out of their way to facilitate someone completely inept at spellcasting falling into the seat of Archmage.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290 Then in Skyrim they literally install a viking dragon hunter as the guild head, because unlike the mages he actually gets shit done.
@@aprinnyonbreak1290
"We trained him wrong, as a joke!"
Sat through in one sitting, while sitting at a truck stop for my 32 hour reset. Thank you for eating up 12 hours of that. 👍
So you went 32 hours awake?
You can't just hit viewers with that concentrated extra credits cringe out of nowhere, man. Somebody could get whiplash!
There you are, watching your quick 12hr oblivion video, and all of a sudden: you are listening to extra credits. You never asked for this, you didn’t chose this, but here it is.
Man, they really fell off. I remember when they were moderately respectable for game design content. Neoliberalism makes Mehrunes Dagon proud.
My headcanon: the reason Uriel Septim couldn't teleport out of the city was because he had his recall spell on top of his tower. Lazy old dude.
All I would do all day is jump off the tower and recall before hitting the ground, fuck running the empire
@@remainprofane7732 haha yess
@@remainprofane7732 but does momentum carry with mark and recall? If it doesn't that would work but if it does you'd be pretty screwed, however you could probably set it up to launch you like in portal or something.
“Somebody call the battlemage, the emperor sling-shotted himself into low orbit and is suffocating in the vacuum of space”
“Again?”
@@remainprofane7732 imagine the day he accidentally casts it too late... Dear populace of the empire, we are sad to announce that the Emperor has died, and traumatized a couple of passer-bys in the process of splatting...
"No load times," and "every NPC has their own schedule," are some of the oldest marketing lines in the books
lmao does it count as a "loading screen" when the game randomly freezes to load a new cell
Yet if you look at the Gothic series, you get both promises fulfilled (the first within reason obviously)
and way earlier than Oblivion
@@sapiensfromterra5103 gothic isn't an rpg with fantasy life simulation elements it's a beat em up or some shit whatever nobody cares (just annoyed at ppl bringing up "gothic" in an elder scrolls discussion)
@@BiomechanicalBrick Cranky because it did several things much better than Oblivion? Like this shopkeeper apprentice in the sequel who mans a street stall, some people walk up and buy stuff, he goes to sweep the street in front of the stall, at evenings he goes to the nearby pub to drink and occasionally he heads into the nearby alley to take a piss.
@@poilboiler yeah that's a couple more different behaviours than a commoner oblivion npc. Too bad oblivion had to do that for magnitudes more NPCs, and a lot of them also eat sleep wander travel search steal shop converse etc.
But I don't care because the elder scrolls promises and tries doing an action game/life simulation rpg while gothic is some random action game that doesn't give the same number of freedoms to the player.
You can say there are many options in the elder scrolls but they're shallower/less developed (such as combat animations which is something gothic fans love flaunting). However being able to open every door, pick up every object, speak with every character and use every interactive mechanic in the game on them is worth something.
Gothic is all about combat and the elder scrolls is more about simulation and role playing i guess? That's why I don't get why people bring up gothic
they probably think gothic "deserves" more popularity than tes which is imo an irrational take because they simply do different things that create different experiences.
8:21:40 - With high health and/or acrobatics, you can surivive the fall without the Boots of Springheel Jak, so you get to keep them forever. My brother discovered that by accident by forgetting to equip the boots and surviving with barely any health to spare, haha.
Clever brother. ALSO vote trump ! ! !
Somehow mannimarco has returned
Ye in eso and also trump has returned too to make America great again for 4 more years
Got it. Trump is evil. Now i will vote blue. Thanks@@NigerianCrusader
Teleportation is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise!
*knock knock* its us the omnilresent imperial battlemages. We gotta memory hole mysticism before we're late for not helping during the great war.
Colette Marence: _glares angrily_
Yep man and also trump make him president again man! Go vote matey! Go go go!
Teleportation and, to a lesser extent, levitation are two spells in my Big Book of OP No-No Spells for Settings. This is because, while any magic would change aspects of civilization in ways Elder Scrolls games refuse to contemplate, teleportation and levitation would change all of society.
Unless Tamriel were filled with flying cities (in the games) and armies (other than daedric ones) portalling into castle keeps--or simply the projectiles hurled by those armies--I would not want to see the concepts of teleportation and levitation come within mile of the setting.
I am not against them as mechanics. Task the player to set up or restart an archanatrans suppression system as part of military campaign against the daedra. Leaves some wildlands in the gaps and edges where all magics are permanently available. These could be hazardous areas where cackling mages and magical creatures could ambush from above, kill you, resurrect you, or transport you to unknown locations for macabre experimentation.
Basically at this point you're creating some kind of youtube documentary series but it's about RPG's all crammed into one episode, and I'm absolutely here for it.
I’d totally watch a 15 hour fallout retrospective from Patrician TV. It would be super boring if anyone else made it.
Dude the emphasis on having this be more audio than visual is SUCH a big deal
This dude knows his audience
These videos are unreal. The fact people poke holes in is testament to just how engaging and confirm the fact people are listening. Amazing stuff man!
They generally don't poke holes in it... not for lack of trying.
Or not.
The arena orc champion standing still and taking the beating for a long time is objectively quite dumb. Yet it made me feel genuinely sad, even though I didn't initially care about the orc. He was constantly saying that he hated what he turned out to be and wanted to die, so I challenged him to give him one last good fight and end his suffering. And I was low level, so I wasn't even sure I could beat him. Naturally, I quick saved when the gate opened and charged towards him. And he did not try to defend himself. After landing a couple strikes, I stopped and asked him why he was not fighting. He [presumably] said that he hates to fight because all his valor and proficiency he was so proud of turned out to be just a legacy of some vampire. So he won't fight. I hit him some more and at that time I started to feel really bad. I stopped, healed him back and tried casting a frenzy spell on him. It didn't work. I wanted to leave the arena, but of course I could not. I wanted to load a save, but my quick saved was here, and another save was like 6 hours ago. I was stuck there with no other choice but to kill him. I felt so weak and useless and stupid. I sunk a sword in him one more time and it just felt terribly wrong. I used the console to make him fight me, pretending as if my frenzy spell did work. But it is mere magic, it contradicted his beliefs and he was much weaker than if he were to fight with passion. I slayed him and the crowd went crazy cheering their new champion. The message about the dark brotherhood popped up, and it didn't feel like a bug. It really felt as if I murdered a friend. It was already late evening. I went out of the pit and left arena without even claiming my reward. I wasn't even running. It felt wrong for the moment so I switched to walking and slowly went into the night. I was thinking about how stupid I was. At that time I myself was a vampire and was gathering ingredients to cure me from vampirism. I could've told the guy that I would give him the cure, and give some health potion or whatever - he wasn't really a vampire. Yeah, he just learned the news and felt terrible and wanted to die, but he would eventually get over it. He would if I had not come in and kill him "out of mercy". The man deserved better.
Yeah that's pretty weird, but I loved the feeling, and I wouldn't feel like that had he just fallen down in a couple blows
That was a beautiful and bloody depressing write-up.
:(
Holy fuck this is depressing...
Hopefully you took your frustration out on the adoring fan!
Look at the good side. It's just a game, however that showed you how much empathy and compassion you have, you a good heart, rejoice!
Долго искал нашего, чтобы отметить прелесть превьюхи
That's humanity right there.
Me, I take it as a chance to hit a guy 600 times with this rusty iron dagger I found for blade exp.
My stepdad used morrowind as a teaching tool for me on how to read when I was a child, I also had issues with dyslexia and adhd, so he had me play the game so I’d want to read and be good at it!
That's cool! I take it it worked well?
I actually learned to spell by playing servers on minecraft! I had spelling difficulties as a kid (couldn’t spell anything more complex than three letter words when I was 11) and it worked wonders since it forced me to learn to be able to communicate. Now I’ve graduated HS with 4 years of AP English!
@@joshdaymusiced it worked wonderfully
@@danielyoho7783 It's wonderful how games can teach someone to read and write . For me English seemed hard since it isn't my native language but after starting playing games with my dad when since i was 7 , i can write and read English better than i can write or speak in my native language sometimes. Although the pronunciation...
That’s a beautiful thing.
I've watched this retrospective series many times at this point. Love the format and the length, the info is well thought out and incredibly easy to digest. Would be awesome to see a series like this for other series. Fallout, Dragon Age, or Mass Effect would be cool. Thanks for all the effort that went into these!
"But without the unofficial patch-" a sentence to haunt my dreams and whisper dread nothings into my ears at night as I lie awake, wishing for my rose tinted glasses to return me to the halcyon days before I understood. Ignorance is bliss, knowledge? A curse.
3:26:50 One of my fondest memories of Morrowind was walking into a tomb on a low-level mage character, seeing a Dremora, saying "hell no" and using a lock spell (not even sure why I had it) on an interior door and getting the fuck out of dodge. I later came back at a higher level, shot the door with an open lock spell and annihilated the Dremora behind it.
Oh hell to the nah nah nah
"I have sealed an ancient evil behind this portal"
"It's an angry red man with a baseball bat listening to Linkin Park, locked behind a wooden door"
"THE THREAT TO OUR REALM IS IMMINENT"
Honestly that's probably the smartest move a character could make in-universe.
"Okay I'm getting the feck out and you can just stay in here, fella."
That's morrowind
I suspect the reason you had that spell was same as mine you thought it was the opening spell instead of locking spell
This retrospective was so good that on September 7th around 2:30PM EST, I drove off interstate I-91 due to falling asleep. Rolled over and somehow still survived, best part was, the retrospective was still playing. Stellar video!
Glad you are alive. Hope everything turned out well considering.
That sounds rather stupid tbh but good you didn't die.
Okay kim wexlet
@@Zmoney28 average better call saul fan (6 years old)
Holy shit, my dude, stay safe.
STAR by young scrolls playing for the adoring fan made me unreasonably happy
I love long form content like this. Helps pass the time at work.
As a Brazilian citizen, I have to congratulate Bethesda on the city of Bravil and how accurate it represents my country: Shit places and even shittier layout, a diverse population but somehow the racial tension is none compared to what it could be.
They even sound similar phonetically!
i found brazil quite accommodating,though..
Brasil é um tolete mesmo
I agree with everything but shit places? You must live somewhere in the middle of the Tietê River or inside a favela somewhere that no one knows about. Brazil is beautiful, it just lacks organization and a lot of corruption.
It is pretty curious how brazil had a fuckton more slaves, outlawed slavery way later compared to everyone else, and somehow the racial tension although present isnt as bad as in the US.
"They used a cruise missile to kill a rodent... and failed", is my favourite quote of this entire video.
Bingo!
My favorite was:
"Stop, your breaking the law. It's been too long since I've had a good brawl."
@@curtisjackson4090
"That's a bingo!"
4:31:40
Yeah that's the disappointing part of incompetent writers, everyone in the game is moronic.
8:18:20 Amusei casually giving the pc the Grayfoxes orders in front of an imperial guard is classic😂
"Shadow hide you."
If you listen to this on 0.75, not only does it sound like you now have a drunk friend loredumping/criticizing Oblivion to you, but you also have more video!
In the Thieves Guild final quest, you can survive the fall from the chimney if you have high enough acrobatics without wearing the Boots. The boots won’t break and you can wear them forever if you want for that ridiculous stat boost they give you!
You can wear them then do the Sanguin quest AFTER The Ultimate Heist and when you get you gear back at the shrine you can't wear them again BUT the 50 extra points is added permanently to Acrobatics. And Acrobatics is one of the two attributes that do go up for real past 100 as in the skill does increase. Wait until you are at 100 and now you have 150 skill in Acrobatics. So you are back to Morrowind roof jumping levels again. Awesome.
I ended up being able to save them because even though my acrobatics wasn't too great, I had killed a zombie and had its body fall down the chimney shaft and sit at the bottom. When I fell, its body broke my fall just enough to survive.
@@greenscheme2040 thanks! I’m playing through rn and I jump everywhere. I planned on doing thieves guild last so I hope I’ll be able to survive the fall
@@greenscheme2040 i remember o used the multiple rings glitch and had a cracked imperial athletic and speed wise. Id run at the top stone ramparts in bruma and the ramps shape combined with my broken acrobatics launched me the whole way onto the roof of the bruma chapel
I remember way back in the day, on my second or third character, I found where it spits you out, and built a paintbrush step ladder to get down and keep the boots on a nobody character.
Minor lore nitpick - Orcs being occasionally referred to as beast people has been an intermittent thing since Daggerfall. Morrowind lists them as one of the three beast races, while simultaneously having books explaining their Mer heritage. It's an unreliable narrator thing, I'm sure. It didn't originate in ESO but like you said, that likes to recontextualize things.
Also racism.
While I will concede the point that ESO likes to recontextualize things, I still hold that it's otherwise pretty faithful with the lore.
It's set far back enough on the timeline to where many discrepancies with earlier games can be easily explained away as the unreliable narrator. It gets the most problematic when it tries to do anything with the daedra, though it rarely fucks up the lore in that department (my favorite instance of this is how Barbas is a bro in Morrowind, Oblivion, and Skyrim, but he's an absolute jackass in ESO)
I do however have a big problem with the lack of a 9th divine in the Imperial pantheon. Sure Tiber septum hasn't been born yet so obviously he hasn't ascended to godhood as Talos, but even back in daggerfall before his retroactive Ascension there was a 9th divine the form of Reymon Ebonarm, Imperial god of war
@@KitKatHexe I think Bethesda's lore people decided to scrub that given that they apparently removed all references to him completely, even from in game books he was previously mentioned in.
So that is probably not on the ESO people. It is very likely they are aware of him, but he is not officially canon anymore.
I'm gonna need a 12 hour explanation on this.
7:07:50
It was me. I was the one who threw myself over the edge over and over again. I was 15-16 and Oblivion was my first RPG and I hadn't learned how to put the dots together like that. But I'm proud of myself for eventually figuring it out and putting the dots together without the help of an online walkthrough. :)
I recently realised how Jauffre getting the special dialouge of "yes Kvatch" makes him an irredeemable, irresponsible, incompetent idiot. With just one singular dialouge the super elite grandmaster of the blades reveals that he basically put the entirety of Tamriel at risk because he's a bum. He knew Uriel had an illegitimate heir as a backup plan, yet as he heard about the assassination of the Emperor's heirs and the big U himself he didn't IMMEDIATELY have Martin taken to Cloud Ruler Temple: strike 1. If the player visits Kvatch before delivering the amulet Jauffre implies that he knows of the attack but you never see a single blade agent sent to take Martin away nor are there any blades agent corpses to show he at least tried: strike 2. If the player B-lines it to the priory he gives a fucking inmate who might just have been a bloodthirsty murderer the task to retrieve the only hope of Tamriel: strike 3 he is out.
And this is only the FIRST conversation you have with the guy. I will not even mention the clusterfuck of how the mythic dawn steals the amulet because that makes me want to open the console and just remove Jauffre from the game.
Yeah it’s just a running problem with TES wanting a foot in every door. The desire for a heroic, time-precious epic really clashes with the open world and ability to do what you want when you want it. The implementation of the player character is VERY lazy at times, like I have no professional writing experience and I still feel like I could write quests better than that.
And Skyrim was the same way, since Alduin can never actually win and characters will put way too much trust in you
I remember playing Oblivion while ignoring leveling and eventually being overwhelmed by how strong the enemies became. When I learned how to efficiently level/min max it felt like such an accomplishment.
My first character was actually nearly perfect for a playthrough. I hadn't played an Elder Scrolls game before, so I picked a bunch of skills that sounded cool at the time. I ended up with a weird grab bag of stuff like Alchemy, Security, Conjuration, ect on a primarily melee character, along with Heavy Armor and Blunt. I levelled at a pretty decent rate, and completely sidestepped the levelling issues with the game by accident, and never realized the issues until my second character.
I don't usually like "video-essay" type content, but your analysis on Morrowind was just impressive by its immense scope and ambition. And now you drop this, after only 8 months? And its 5 hours longer? Fucking outstanding, can't wait to watch it.
I’m not one for video essays either or even video game reviews/criticism
Achieved by injecting meth directly into the brain through the eye socket.
@@varvarith3090 After Sheogorath took them of course.
To this day
Jyggalag is the coolest fucking thing in elder scrolls to me. I love him and his lore so goddamn much. So happy he made an appearance in the vigilant mod
I really enjoyed this video, like all your videos. They are daunting to start and usually take three days to watch, but I'm always happy when I do.
Just started but I HIGHLY appreciate the focus on making this audio-centric so that we can listen to this while going about another task. That's my favorite way to experience these types of analyses and I think its cool you acknowledge that audience
Agreed.
100% agree
...not that i'd miss out on the tiny visual jokes
I love listening to his retrospectives at work, makes my shift much more pleasant and go by much quicker
"This is an audio based experience" THANK YOU, exactly what I want from these kinds of long-form critical analysis videos.
Some days I really wish I lived in this alternate universe where Oblivion was every bit as detailed and full of intrigue and fleshed out lore as Morrowind.
It's so rare to find great longform commentary with all those qualities you mention in the intro. It probably why I've watched this video through several times over the years. Some days I just need something to keep that child-like part of my brain alive and entertained while I slog through a slow, dull day at work. Thanks Patrician.
You forgot to mention my "favorite" part of Knights of the Nine. If you stick the Crusader's relics on the stand, they re-level their stats. If you get the set at the beginning of the game, then just visit the chapel every 5 or so levels to restore the gear, you don't need any other armor. It makes everything but the very highest tier of armor useless.
But that's a good thing. It's because of lack of feature like this you had to postpone certain quests with important rewards (Escutcheon of Chorrol, most notably) until the latest levels.
That sounds awesome actually. Hate getting the super awesome daedric artifact weapon only to have it be easily surpassed by some random npc’s Garbo sword a few levels later
@@hunterlong1820 it's good for individual players but it's bad for the system as a whole because it gives you a mechanical incentive to ignore every other armor set, and the unique aesthetics they can provide, in favor of a single white suit.
@@valuebrandmelkor5973 yeah I can see that. Just depends on how much of a meta slave you are. I miss playing RPG’s before the internet and not being able to look up the best build armor training methods etc lol.
@@valuebrandmelkor5973 it really doesn't. It's a good set of armour, but it's not universal. There is the restriction to not get any infamy which means you can't reasonably get it before the Thieves' guild, Dark Brotherhood, and some daedric quests, because let's be honest, doing another pilgrimage is a chore. You might want specific enchantments on your armour too.
Genuinely lost my shit at "I summoned a clone of Cameron which summoned a dremora which shot lighting that hit the original Cameron instantly crashing the game"
6:40:13 the spell name being Fuck You is so real
3:13:50 If the sun moves east to west across the sky in Tamriel then a clockwise order does make sense; the reason "clockwise" is that direction is because that's the direction the shadow moves on a sundial (in the northern hemisphere). If the people of Cyrodiil use sundials _and_ the sun moves from east to west _and_ they're based in the northern hemisphere of Mundus, then clockwise is a fine direction to use.
Which comes first, east-west or the sun's travel path?
Also, why assume that the geographic shape is elliptoid instead of, say, a cylindrical prism or infinite plane. After all, there's no in universe justification for our ideas of gravity.
learning about oblivion leveling is like learning about the horrors of the world, you cant go back to the way you were and ignore it atleast for me
Oblivion leveling is a nightmare and I'm not aware of any mods that truly fix it. As someone who has played probably tens of thousands of hours on multiple consoles and PC, leveling is something I solve for myself by making leveling something done almost exclusively through console commands.
After having been the "slap it till it dies" guy, hearing it was honestly interesting, and made me wanna bash my head through a wall.
Dont even ask me about macros, i was an xbox 360 pleb and coming off skyrim didnt even know you had to SLEEP to level (dont ask. I nearly cried when i found out)
Yep
Oblivion leveling is good actually and whiners just want to whine
@@thiscatania612 i just never cares except when i wanted the artifacts
I once played Oblivion without using fast travel and only using the paper map that came with the 5 games bundle you could get in like 2015. It's still the most fun I have had in an elder scrolls game.
You should try kingdom Come: Deliverance in hardcore mode, I think you will like it.
So you played Morrowind without shrines
@@Tomix4k morrowinds got silt striders and mage guild teleports
Yeah DEFINITELY play Kingdom Come on hardcore mode
I didn't know assassins creed 3 *had* fast travel until I had beaten it.
I actually like Oblivion's combat in principle; it's just the lackluster AI and extreme sponginess of it(which is due in part to its leveling/scaling issues) that makes it feel like a slog. In terms of flow of the melee itself, I enjoy how quick and "crisp" it is. Blocking feels nice, weapons hit quickly. It doesn't have the issue of putting emphasis on animation visuals over responsiveness, which frustrates me in skyrim, fallout 4, and other unrelated games.
Now this is a retrospective and analysis that I'm all for. Long form showing off most of the content and explaining it throughly.
I found this video on a pretty difficult week of my life. For reasons I cannot adequately explain, listening to half a day of an in-depth discussion of a game I played what seems like a lifetime ago really helped me keep my head above water, with the video length being a positive factor for that. Thank you for making this.
Just finished the morrowind video
"I won't be making another video this long or like this"
*Insert 12 hour oblivion video
lmao please give us a 19 hour skyrim video next plz
The most hilarious thing would be a twenty second video saying "skyrim bad" over and over again
CZcams videos can’t be over 12 hours now
@Dr. Bright A few months ago old videos over 12h are still up but nothing over 12h can be uploaded anymore
You thought the factions part of this video was long just wait the companions and the mage guild are just atrocious
@@Vacuumbead This is so sad guys
Just came here to say that this video popped up in my recommended as I'm looking for a video essay to fall asleep to.
This video would still be playing when I wake up
these videos are truly a work of art. thank you.
This review runs for about the same length as an audiobook of a 400 page hard cover book. I am in awe of your thorough attention to detail. You’re a mad man, and it’s fantastic!
First thing that crossed my mind as well, the script alone must've been a nightmare to write. Dude is a legend.
"Look, murder is all fine, but an organization that utilizes teleportation magic? That's a step too far in illegality." I'm not sure how many jabs there are in this video against the outlawing of levitation and teleportation, but that's the best one out of the first 8.5 hours.
Watch the skyrim and starfield video if you want more jabs at teleportation/levitation 😂
Short form teleportation is in oblivion too which is odd
I have never played a single elder scrolls game but I will in fact be watching this whole thing and the other quick retrospectives. thanks for getting me through my homework
Buy it please… or just play daggerfall and arena there good and free on steam
@@NigerianCrusader thanks for the suggestions!! it’s on my list now :)
@@hollismcc96 no problem, but daggerfall and arena are very different from morrowind oblivion and Skyrim
I’ve heard people say that Daggerfall and arena are hidden gems
I don't know how many times I've watched this by now but today I discovered the Running in Circles motif and gotta say it adds a nice, nuanced layer to the analysis.
I can’t believe this was actually recommended to me in a timely fashion. I keep expecting this to be a video released years ago on a now dead channel, with this and your Morrowind video now being two of my favorite things on this whole forsaken site, and my luck being such that would mean you would not be making content anymore. How happy I am to be wrong. I can’t wait to dive into the rest of your content
FUCK YEAAHHHHH
The best part for me was was uncovering the simple truth about Mehrunes Dagon.
If you are a lord of destruction you need to pull back last minute for them to rebuild so you could destroy again.
This is extremely profound realisation.
But is it what the writer's intended or did they just fumble into it?
@@whoknows8264 frankly It doesn't really matter. At least for me. It's just great way of putting it.
@@KeshaLukin fair enough, personally I do love the concept of playing a mortal pawn trying to survive the machinations of divine beings. I don't think any of the later games have such an interesting take like Oblivion main quest.
sorry im having trouble understanding what you mean, why would he need to pull back? hes the prince of destruction, but also revolution and change. he would want to commit to bringing about a new world order because thats what hes the prince of doing right?
@@apaul7502 the basic principle would be: in order to destroy something, this something should exist. Destruction is impossible without creation and vice versa. So if we were to imagine complete destruction into nothingness then the very reason for existence of prince of destruction would be pointless. There would be simply nothing to destroy. So in a sense to maintain status quo you need to pull back. Let them rebuild and find a new "entertaining" way to destroy what's rebuilt. Hope that makes sense.
Took me a week and have but watched until the end. Listened to it while driving to work.
Loved the video and all the effort.