This Got Ugly.... ANGRY FISHERMAN Thinks He "Owns" The Ocean and Wants To FIGHT! (INSANE)
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2024
- Today, we are going offshore with my buddies, Arinton @saltwatermercs and Capt. Lionel James @LionelJamesfishing to try to catch the most powerful fish in the ocean! Things started off pretty interesting because while pulling up to the community reef we had a run-in with an angry fisherman who was not happy and wanted to fight! Stay tuned to see this full interaction and let us know what you think about it! We hope you enjoy this episode, if so, smash the LIKE button and SUBSCRIBE to the channel for more!
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I think it's stupid to go way out in the ocean catching big fish and throwing them back in and paying all that money to go on that trip and catching red snappers and oil coffee well if you didn't want the fish give it to somebody else this stupid to go way out there that can come do that kind of fishing really dumb
They weren’t in season and were a blast to catch. Could fish for the AJ’s all day every day. I enjoy fishing for fun more than anything.
My dad used to get mad at me for throwing black bass back and even gaspers I don't like the taste. Then he didn't like me fileting crappie he was Cajun he didn't like to waste any of the meat. 😆 RIP Sarge.
When you go to Disney Land and spend all that money to go you don’t keep the roller coaster. It’s about the fun and the experience of it all. Also not every fish can be kept there’s seasons and size limits. Keeping every fish you catch mentality is an old man way of thinking. My uncle acts like that 🤦♂️ nothing goes back in his mind 😂
In Florida Red Snapper only have a short season and Amberjack are limited. You keep fish at your own financial risk.
There is a difference between a fun fishing trip where you only take home memories and a grocery run.
With the size of the Ocean, that’s considered pretty close. If I go to my favorite spot and I see someone there, unfortunately I will try to find another spot.
Theres no such thing as a private fishing spot. To be honest the guy you pulled up on has a point. You have the whole ocean to fish but yet you pull right up next to him. Go find another spot, theres literally millions of spots out there. What if they or you hook a big fish and it runs into each others lines and breaks off. I go out fishing with my family to get away from all the crowds and idiots here in the city. The last thing I want is to be fishing in one of my spots and some kook comes and pulls up 100 ft next to me. He is right, its called etiquette.
Agreed 100%
Fish out of southern Louisiana, you'll find that everyone goes to the same spot bc that's where you can catch tuna in volume.
Destin-Fort Walton Beach, FL is home to the nation's largest charter fishing fleet, and every charter goes to the artificial reefs. He's lucky there weren't 5 or 10 other boats out there... You fish reefs or rigs in the Gulf, and this wasn't a big deal to be that close.
Yep, I feel that, both parties are acting like idiots in this video. The ocean is SO VAST, yet he just HAD TO pull up to that ONE SPOT. Yes, it's "public", but he's an ass for doing that. Now the other guy is an "ass" for reacting in the way that he did. Two wrongs, don't make a right.
@@LionAndALamb Good fisherman can find other spots. You CANNOT tell me that there is ONLY ONE SPOT to catch fish.
My man !! Thank you for coming down and fishing with me! That was a really dope day!! Any time you and yours are in the area you always have a spot on my boat bro! You’re a cool ass dude!!! #peaceandahug let’s goooooooooooooooo
Pin it Cole 👏😎
Fun video guys!
Had a blast out there man! Thanks for taking us out and helping film the experience! Will definitely be back soon for more AJ’s! 🔥🔥🔥
@@Zinnias2go yo, thank you for watching and supporting my homies channel
@@Zinnias2golet’s gooooooo
😂😂 well I watched this episode with some popcorn 🍿, thanks for coming down to fish us 🙌🏾🙌🏾
What is it kettle cooked popcorn?
@@LionelJamesfishing 😂😂all day
You guys did get pretty close to them. Always give people space when you can.
Respectfully Kathryn, on a reef that’s not very close. Capt wasn’t in the wrong imo.
@@powelcrosley3718 Depends on how big the reef is hey?
Not sure how big that "Fishing Hole" was but if I were fishing in a wide open area and another boat pulled up that close to me, I would have been upset too. I probably wouldn't have said anything though, I would have just moved. My opinion, for what it's worth, Capt. James was wrong!
No doubt. I live on the coast and around here that is a fighting offense. These guys don't play that.
I am local to the area and unfortunately this has become an all too common theme with these new fishing “guides” that have popped up in the last ten years or so. We used to not have to deal with this bs but now it is just part of the trip. Like you, I have learned to not make a big deal out of it and just move to another spot
Me too. Open water for miles and you pull up next to me?😆
If I even approach another boat, due to birds, or churning bait, it’s with my trolling motor from down wind. That way I don’t disturb them and they drift into me as much as me to them. Anyone getting upset with that just has to get happy real quick cause Rip on Yellowstone puts up with more than i do. He’s nicer about it too. 😎
@@mulvey0731 I wish Cole had his camera on when they first pulled up, it would have given a better representation of what really happened. The video he shows makes his charter captain look really bad. I fish mostly on the Chesapeake Bay and there are areas, especially around the bridges that get really crowded but you don't pull right up next to the only boat out there.
As a long time fisherman (55 years) I have a different take on this. When you're out in the ocean and you pull this close to another boat that was already there its not what I would do. I get it and it happens all the time now but it didnt used to back in the day. When it happens to me now I just politely ask the other boat if they would like to get in my boat. I've actually had charter boats 40-50 ft knock my boat out of the way. Its just a courtesy thing in my book.
Cole I believe your Captain was wrong. If your Captain had ask if the other guys was fishing that spot and they said know. Then it's open season....it's all about respect.
Agreed. Cole's captain came off as a arrogant prick. Not saying that is what he is. Just saying that was the impression he was giving off. There a simple etiquette we all go by on the water and it ain't that hard.
He maintained a good distance away from that other boat so what exactly was he complaining about? The spot was big enough for several boats to fish so why should he have asked him if he was fishing that spot? Was he close to him?
@@nestaredi What etiquette will that be? Don’t fish less than 70 yards from another boat?
@@omarsheriffkaptan I thought he was but you and I know just being courteous nothing wrong with asking who knows the direction the other boat was fishing in or how they was setting up to fish
@@changeaddresses402 I don’t disagree. It would have been courteous to ask but the other guy’s reaction seemed overly antagonistic imo. I could be wrong.
I fish in Tampa Bay area all the time. No idea how big this structure is, but we fish this close all the time. It can be fun chatting when everyone is pleasant. It’s bottom fishing. No big deal to me.
When I was 12 years old, my father, my brother and myself went fishing on a party boat out of Ponce Inlet. My dad forgot to take his wallet and had no cash except for a couple of dollars. To pay the trip my father convinced the captain to take a personal check, so we got to go fishing. Everyone on board chipped in a couple of dollars to the "biggest fish jackpot". My father thought i probably wouldn't catch anything, so he pput money only on himself and my brother. We were at the stern of the boat just hanging out fishing for red snapper, and I started getting board. I started playing around with the rod pulling it up and down the way you were when you were fishing, and all of a sudden, my pole bent way over. I wasn't using a lighter rod as you were. I was using a deep-sea rig. After much struggling, and with the help of my brother, I landed the fish, a 21 pupnd red snapper which turned out to be the biggest fish on the boat. Of course, I didn't win the pot, because I wasn't entered. On the way back, a really bad strom blew up, and the boat broke down. We had to be towed back in while waves were crashing over the bow and soaking everyone. Fun times.
Unless on a crowded riverbank, spillway or pier with limited room to expand, a fisherman should never position within casting distance of another fisherman--in my opinion. If your guide would've positioned twice that distance away it's likely no offense would've been taken. The fact your guide stated "It's not about etiquette" was totally offensive, and in my opinion he sounded like a bully guide deliberately pushing the boundary when there was no need to be that close. I hope this guide loses business over his inconsiderate behavior. So rude.
If both boats are marking fish , it’s a limited area but public . Anything goes . Yet if there’s two boats and plenty of room ,don’t park on top of the guy that’s already fishing . Pure rude . I would not have said anything but they would have had a bumpy surface when I left .
I respect your opinion and it’s most definitely valid however, a bully guide, I am not ..unless you start it. Now we’re not on the river. We’re fishing right on the bottom and rules are different in every area. If this would have been a flat, I wouldn’t even came close to it. There were a lot things left out that were said first from the other angler. Here’s a question I have to ask. you if the roles were reversed, and that man did it to me how would you feel about it so it’s easy Jason to make an opinion about somebody you don’t know, never met or a situation you might have never been in. Our rules are a little different down here. that reef is broken up into several different pieces and I was fishing a piece that was well away from the main piece. We are also fishing straight down, on a reef. There really isn’t any casting going on. you’re dropping straight to the bottom. In Destin, it is very common to have 5 to 7 boats on the Phoenix, on the Janet,on the liberty ship, and on the brown barge, which are public sunken boats that you can find on Google, and that are automatically plugged into your GPS. The way our rules work down here, Because its open to everyone ..the respectful thing to do is come in slowly and do not wake anyone out or come in the front of the boat in case they have free lines in the back of the boat, which I did. I respect your opinion.
This type of fishing is dropping straight down there was no way they were going to bother the other boat if you're fishing straight down you're not anywhere close to them and when the man and son left he did try to wake them hard so it shows he's childish himself
Could be the difference between fresh water and salt water fishing . If you come to my weed bed or drop off and start casting over my spot , you’re going to hear about it . But reef fishing ,dead calm, straight down, pull up and I’ll buy you a beer .
@@Philc231 and I respect that to the fullest, I also bass fish a lot and I understand oh, and would never come near the weed bed. See most people make the mistake of fishing right over what we were fishing for and a lot of those fish hanging off of it and that particular spot there’s three or four different sections of that boat. In all honesty, I am not a bully at all. It’s the one thing I hate the most however, I was raised by a man who taught me to stand up for myself, respectfully
Good evening from Syracuse NY everyone thank you for sharing your adventures with me
Thanks so much for watching!!!
Sorry but that is a bit fucked up to pull up right beside somebody when they're out there fishing long before you.
It was quite rude.
It’s a very large community reef that multiple boats fish together at daily. Plenty of room to cast and vertical fish. There was a lot of separation between us. Lionel fished out there nearly every day and is very knowledgeable about the norms of fishing and boat etiquette at these community holes. Thanks for watching!
Have you ever fished in Destin or been in the situation or did you not even notice the other boat that was pulling up behind us at the end of the video? It is very common practice to have several boats on a reef, public reef at that. what is“fucked up” is when you have paid money to drop your own private Reefs and people pull up next to you to take your spots. I Respect your opinion. I don’t think you’re wrong or right, however, your opinion is valid and I respect how you feel
At least I wasn't the only one that felt that way LOL
I actually think capt. Did get too close IMO yes it's public but etiquette is still expected. U got within 200 ft on a day when nobody was around. Wouldn't have went over well here in South Alabama
You’re spot on man. I’m local to the Destin area and this has become an all too common theme the past few years since all of these new “guides” that have been popping up.
We weren’t within casting distance and we were dropping straight down. This community spot is a series of reefs spread out amongst this general area designed to house multiple fishing vessels. We fished a completely different section. The only time we came in close was initially when he was yelling to figure out what the problem was. Throughout the day there were several other boats that dropped in to fish these reefs while we were there without any issues. Lionel fishes out there all the time and this was the first time anyone has ever gotten upset like this around him so he was caught pretty off guard. Throughout the day we had several other boats come in and fish the exact same spot with us without any issues. I’m obviously not from the area and was just along for the ride, but back home there are a lot of places we fish that are community holes that house multiple boats within the same area at the same time so I figured this was a similar scenario. Lionel has been in contact with the guys on the other boat and they have resolved their differences and I think everyone was able to take something away from the experience. 👍
That shark wasn't happy he thought he was going to have an easy meal. And as big as that ocean is those guys had no business whining. Awesome video.
I aint gonna lie, as a seasoned boatie, what you did by parking up on his gunnel was very uncool.
What makes it worse is your attempt to downplay what you did and justify it by stating its a public site. There is this thing called boating and fishing etiquette - which includes giving plenty of distance between boats, especially when there was literally no one else around.
There is 140 million square miles of ocean and 8,436 miles of Florida coastline, and you decided to drop pick next to the poor guy! Man, I would have had something to say had you parked up next to me.
Learn some manners and respect.
Happy fishing and tight lines.
That looked like so much fun! Your guides were awesome!
I actually AGREE with the "Angry Fisherman". This 100% DID violate "fishing etiquette", you never sail close enough to be able to talk to the other captain while they are anchored up/already fishing. Way NOT COOL. I HATE when googans pull up on me when I'm already set up fishing. AND your captain seemed like the "Angry" one challenging the other captain to meet him at the dock....very childish in my opinion.
It was a very large community reef that multiple boats fish every single day. Lionel is out there several times a week and this was the first time anyone had ever gotten upset. The concept of fishing this spot is no different than if you were going spillway fishing or pier fishing. There’s almost always going to be multiple people out there and this spot was designed just for that. It’s a ship wreck broken up into several pieces and scattered over this area so essentially each boat that comes to fish will pick whatever broken piece is available to drop on. If they are all taken up, then it’s probably best to go elsewhere. When we initially were coming in, we were idling in slow to the opposite side of the reef when we heard the guy start yelling. We were confused so we came in closer to see if everything was alright, once we eventually went the other way and started dropping down we were at least 70yds away. Throughout the day we had other boats come in and fish with us with no issues. 👍
Ummmmm. I mean. ALLLLLLLLL THAT WATER YOU GUYS PASSED😂😂😂 and You guys pulled up right in front of him 🤣. I’d be upset too lol. Less talkin with me tho. Hope you guys had fun
It was a specific community reef we were fishing. Everything else was pretty much a dead zone. If that other guy fishes there often, he should be familiar with how multiple boats always fish it at the same time. Once we got situated and started dropping down we were at least 70yds away from them. We hated that the guy got upset, but Lionel has since been in contact with them and they have resolved their differences which is great!
@@COLE_and_JAY i understand. Glad grown men can be grown men
Its an awfully big ocean. You can see from several miles away that someone is on that particular spot. If you were all that, you'd have nearby spots that you could have diverted to. I'd say cozy up to some captains and collect a few more spots, but making friends doesn't seem your thing.
Open water and y'all are that close?!? I see why the guy got mad. Don't do that in my area or you'll have problems. These guides are especially bad about driving around watching people fish and if they see someone catching, they pull up right next to them. Yeah, it's a public place, but damn learn how to find fish on your own.
We were reef fishing. There aren’t unlimited reef sites in this area and we were over 70 yards away from the other boat dropping baits straight down. Capt Lionel fishes these reefs multiple days a week and is one of the best in the area. Any of the available reefs will often have multiple boats fishing at the same time. It’s a very common practice and this just happened to be the first time anyone has ever gotten bent out of shape around him. After that first boat left we had others come in and fish the same reef with no issues. We also did have some other boats that dropped by to snag waypoints and left while we were fishing. I’m obviously not from around there and wasn’t in control of the wheel, but I trust their judgement on fishing/boating etiquette on these community reefs that they fish all the time. Thanks for watching!
@@COLE_and_JAY there are a ton of sites off of Destin. Shouldn’t the “guide” have his own numbers anyway instead of the overfished public numbers?
I have a guide business myself, and my boat is wrapped. For that reason, I avoid confrontation at all cost -- even if it means going to my second choice in an area to start. Anyone, whether they have fished with you or not, can rate you on Google. A colleague of mine had words with someone on the lake. That person went on Google and drilled him. Something to consider.
Cole, I grew up in Ft Walton/Destin and your captain was way wrong to ride up within two boat lengths of the other guy who was there already. It was Indeed very poor etiquette. He said he was going 200 yards from him but stayed “right on top of him”. I will definitely not be using that captain or recommending him. Then he wants fight the other guy. “Let’s go discuss it on land like men” then I am not violent. Guy is a douche bag!!!
We only came in close while trying to have the discussion. After that we were at least 70 yds away dropping straight down. Not in anyone’s way. Lionel fishes this area multiple times a week and says there are always multiple boats fishing each of the reefs and that this is the first time anyone has ever gotten upset about anything. We had 2 other boats come in and fish the same reef as us while we were there.
You’re spot on man. I am also a local to the area and it seems like more and more of these types of “guides” have been popping up in the last ten years or so. The recreational fisherman who don’t get a chance to fish every day have to now deal with a-holes like this when they do have a chance to go out there. Even on a public spot!
@@COLE_and_JAY 70yards is not enough lol, you have the whole ocean. Go find another spot. your line can drift 70 yards, you hook a big fish it can rip off 100's of yards then wraps up in other people lines. Use common sense. I would have just left you clowns and found another spot. Its like you waiting for an hour in line and some idiot cuts in front of you. Same deal.
I fish out of destin every weekend. It’s a dam war zone out there. Diving for flounder with friends and watching anchors drop by us is enough to make me put holes in boats. Law is 300 ft from a boat flying a dive flag. No questions asked. Get back up and have idiots fishing right by us. Charter guy’s giving us BS. Literally had a guy come motoring up to my boat and asked do you have divers in the water. Little late then! Fishing is worse had a idiot with a six pack charter dam near hit me trying to back in and fish a spot I was spot locked on.
@@thephenicies9999 Charters are the worse, they think they own the ocean. I have been on a spot and they pull up right next to me without a blink of an eye, but you try and do the same to them and they blow up and yell at you. LOL dumbasses
Great way for your captain to promote his business. He's in the 1% of D bags on the water that cause 99% of the problems. Complete lack of respect for his fellow fisherman.
God Bless You Cole! I really enjoyed the vid! I used to live in Panama City Beach and I think that is the Hathaway Bridge. I have crossed that often. I have been to Fort Walton and worked in Stuart. TY for the great memories!
It was so beautiful over there! Looking forward to the next trip!
I saw the guns on saltwater mercs, that could have been real bad for old boys health!! Awesome video keep pumping out them bangers!!
Can you say “ Anger issues”. Holy crap…. Good for y’all for keeping your cool.
We couldn’t believe how upset he got. Haha
Yooo thanks for watching ! Honestly, I could probably handle the situation a little bit better, but you know heat of the moment I didn’t.
It’s kinda neat watching you fish out of your environment. I hope you asked your Capt. about a place you could go eat some hogfish. I’m glad to see you enjoying yourself. I understand the difficulty in getting Jay on the water with Cy there….a moms job never ends….but please try. I’m sure she has about as much experience as you do fishing salt water…….she’d love it….and so would we!!
Hi Cole. Great video. Glad yall are having a great vacation. So funny and exciting. God bless and love yall 💖💖
In my over 60 years of fishing, I've been in that situation more than once, on both sides of the equation. The bottom line is, it's not worth ruining your day over. There's lots of places to catch fish, and always more places to be found. That guy was probably pissed off all day and still bitching about it when he was loading his boat. I call those guys "one-spot Charlies". They stake their whole day on one spot and if it doesn't work out, they don't have the knowledge or creativity to find something similar (which may even be better than their "honey hole"). All that aside, nice video, looks like you guys made out just fine and had fun. That's what it's all about.
love how you guys harp on how popular that spot is to justify anchoring next to THE ONLY other boat there..total lack of sportsmanship
Another great video. Have Fished that area a few times when my family has been down but with different captains. I will absolutely be booking with @LionsTaleAdventures for sure!! Super cool fellas!
It’s a beautiful area and Lionel is a fantastic guide! He will definitely get you on some fish!
This “guide” has no idea what he is doing. If he did, he wouldn’t need to be fishing public spots. It’s BS that the recreational fishermen, who don’t have the opportunity to fish everyday and do not have the money to pay to have reefs built, have to then deal with paid guides who come out and clean off the only spots they have everyday of the week. I am local to the area and have seen so many of these new “guides” pop up in the last ten years who have no idea what they are doing and follow other fishermen around to steal gps numbers instead of trying to find their own. It’s definitely not like it used to be
Your interaction had an edge to it. In my opinion you were out of line but I only have a short video to base my opinion on.
Wow I love it they have jerks over there too, been watching jay n cole for long time. Central cali here
Sucks when you’re fishing. And a boat decides that he needs to fish 200 feet away from you.
Wow! That was exciting! And a little drama to add to the excitement !
Just enough drama to keep things interesting haha thanks for watching!!
Man that's crazy. If it was a "Private spot" and I got pulled up on id be like come on man, but a Large public reef?? There no reason multiple boats couldn't fish there at the same time. That dude just woke up on the wrong side of the bed I guess.
Great video Cole, Don't know how the boat people do it in Florida? 3 years in the Yucatan and 3 hrs from Belize, 6 hours from Cuba, 2 hours from Cancun..
When your boat doesn't all of sudden not work?
When a pirate/drug dealer sees you?
I am sure you would have towed the dad and boy to land.
It's a good thing to have other boats around.
People are angry..
People don't understand..
It's not going to get better when you teach your child anger.
Good video.
Cole thank you so much for sharing your awesome fishing trips. I just love how excited you get. Give family hugs from Oregon. Merry Christmas 🎄
Nice to see fresh water slayer stepping into the salt life. Footage of shark and porpoise in same frame trying to steal your fish... very cool. Hi Jay. Hope the beach is fun
I was so pumped to get that shot! It was the icing on the cake for a great day fishing!!!
Lol that is hilarious but some times it happens keep up the good tell Cy I said hi
It happens, it’s funny, but yo what about the shark footage and an amber jack on a bass rod that alone is an accomplishment
@@LionelJamesfishing yes you are very right
Wow you in my neck of the woods. Thanks for sharing
Thanks so much for watching! We loved fishing out there!
I have fished and spearfished those wrecks and reefs many times. It’s VERY common for multiple boats to fish them at the same time. As long as you don’t pull right next to them it’s not an issue. I’ve never seen anyone get mad like that.
It was pretty crazy that he got that upset. I missed the very beginning of the exchange, but we were shocked. It was a large reef and Lionel said there’s multiple boats fishing it at the same time every day he’s there haha.
Early one morning I left early to fish to calm my nerves. Was having a VERY bad week. So I decided to try crappie fishing despite very bad memories of people coming up a TYING TO OUR boat decades earlier on the top of Toledo Bend Lake only six miles from this location. At the break of dawn I was tied to the only snag in open water and here comes three boats filled with loud people. And they tied to the same snag. I`ll never recover from this.
That’s awesome. I’ve had many spear fisherman pull up on the same reefs. what’s crazy is they’re down there and the fish still bite, so essentially, there’s no reason to get mad and it’s everybody’s water, next time you spell fishing if you see me, holler at
@@rogerwilson8023 I hear what you’re saying 💯💯💯
Ole Darren was upset that he couldn't have the whole area to himself..... awe that's to bad. That deep sea fishing looks like a blast 🐟🐟🐟
Too close. I get that it's a well known spot, but you shouldn't have pulled in that close. It's clearly cold weather and little boat traffic would have allowed for setting up further away.
People like that I just laugh at them !! It's even better when I pull up a big fish and they haven't called anything hahaha.
Yeah, we hated that the guy got all bent out of shape. The underwater reef was very large and had plenty of room for multiple boats. They could have stayed and caught fish all day haha
Peace and a hug ! I love that 💞💞 😂😂
Peace and a hug and maybe a slice of cheesecake and I’m good
Amazing how people think that they own
the water. Another great vid. Keep them coming.
Yo, thanks for watching. Unfortunately, it is part of the culture and we deal with it all the time, I deal with it all the time. However, I could’ve handled it in a better way I will try to do better next time and not let someone else’s issue affect or control my reaction.
@@LionelJamesfishing I think you handled it the right way. I am from south Louisiana and I know how it goes on the water. Thanks for the great content.
@@kendalcobb367 thank you my guy 🙏🏾
it sounds like the guide is the one who brought up fighting and handling it on land. Bully behavior but I'm not above being an ass myself sometimes. It happens.
It was a very large community reef that multiple boats fish every single day. I missed the beginning of the altercation when the other guy was being pretty belligerent. Lionel is out there several times a week and this was the first time anyone had ever gotten upset. The concept of fishing this spot is no different than if you were going spillway fishing or pier fishing. There’s almost always going to be multiple people out there and this spot was designed just for that. It’s a ship wreck broken up into several pieces and scattered over this area so essentially each boat that comes to fish will pick whatever broken piece is available to drop on. If they are all taken up, then it’s probably best to go elsewhere. When we initially were coming in, we were idling in slow to the opposite side of the reef when we heard the guy start yelling. We were confused so we came in closer to see if everything was alright, once we eventually went the other way and started dropping down we were at least 70yds away. Throughout the day we had other boats come in and fish with us with no issues. What’s good though is that Lionel has since been in contact with the other guy and they have resolved their differences. Thanks for watching! This kind of content isn’t what I normally want to publish, but I like to keep it real and show all of how our days go on the water.
WAY TO GO COLE I'M GLAD YOU PUTTING IT ON THEM . GOOD SHARK ESCAPE ☺️
I think he was right. You got way too close and if someone else is on a spot, paddy or whatever keep it pushing and find your own spot
Nothing like swooping right in on Someones spot.
It was a very large community reef that was actually split into multiple big chunks and scattered among that general area; designed for multiple boats to fish. We only came in close to figure out why the guy the guy was yelling, but once we got back over to where we were heading which was a piece of the wreck at least 70yds away dropping straight down. We were in no way infringing on their fishing haha. Lionel fishes out here all the time with multiple boats fishing the same spot with no issues. It’s a well known and standard practice at this particular spot. The good thing is that Lionel has since been in contact with the guys on the other boat and they have resolved their differences.
I doubt you guys were 70 yards away when I can still see the expressions on their faces when you pulled up that first AJ. Since there was another couple spots, why not hit up those once and leave this spot to the other guy. Since you guys film and talk a lot he probably just wanted some quiet time with his son. Your captain could have been a little more considerate.
You can't tell others what to do, but in my opinion as a commercial fisherman. If you can hear my conversation on the boat as close as you guys where. Your too close to me. No one owns the area but you have to keep a certain courtesy distance. The normal rule for us when working on the water is 300 yards.
very cool footage , look like a great time, nice fish.
Wow man, those underwater shots are incredible
Thank you!!!! Loved capturing them, and glad they turned out decently!
The shark was karma for you guys, LOL 😆😆
Haha I loved the shark encounter
Wow awesome video. Amazing footadge of that shark. God bless you and your whole family....🙏❤🙏❤🙏😊🙂😀
Good size amberjack on bass rod 4000 size reel
Riiighhhhttttt on a bass ride that is crazy and quite the accomplishment and you gotta be a pretty good angler to do that, because that Rod Could have broke at any time
He has one much bigger. Good thing line broke instead rod.
Love your adventures with the guys so glad your family there too.
That’s where I fish down there too great vid !!!
Yo, what’s going on my man to fish down here in Destin
@@LionelJamesfishing We go to okaloosa island a couple times a year I stock up on white fish lol 😂 but I’m not against go after them snappers either
LOVE this video!!! I'm a firm believer in kill em with kindness!! I think the only thing that would have made it better is if after y'all caught a couple fish, should've pulled up to his boat and tossed him a jig so they could've caught something! Props though man!!
Yep! It’s FL! Fights on salt water, fights on freshwater…..just too many people here. And most of them are from the N.E. Which adds to the attitude.,
That guy definitely had a short fuse. He started chirping at us when we were idling in a long ways away that was why we came in a little closer to see what the deal was. When we eventually got set up where we were fishing at we were over 70yds away from him haha. It was a very spacious reef. Thanks for watching!
@@COLE_and_JAY I’ve lived in North Central FL my whole life. I can’t tell you how I’ve seen it change in 30 years. It was a paradise at one time. It’s South Queens now.
Welcome Fort Walton beach cole & jay.
Liked the fishing but gotta agree you had no need to pull up that close to that guy. It’s open water and you have to pull right up on him like that? Dude, come on. Could have given that guy a hell of a lot more room and still had fun.
We vacation there in Destin all the time. I recognized the scenery!!
Try 2+ oz white bucktails for reef fish and AJs. I like the Mustad jigs with the tie point in the nose. Either puff the sand with them or speed jig them back in. Other boat was clearly in the wrong.
Great stuff.
Bugger off and find your own spot.
The other captain was correct, its all about etiquette.
Seems to be lost on a lot of people now days.
If you fish every day, you should know you don't pull up on a spot that someone who is already fishing. It makes no difference if it is public numbers or not. Do better, Captain.
That Heffa that was screaming & crying about HIS OCEAN , was probably keeping under sized fish & drinking MD 20 20!
😂 hey them fellas thinks that's crowded 🤣 he has never been to our local crappie fishing area. Lol. I like the way you just kept rigging up. In a dam Ocean and dude got mad. Seems like it work out though. That's why i carry on board. Hope i never have to get to that point but there are some nuts out there. That was cool
It's a great fishing experience with a different "flavor" from your usual video ! 😀😉 I feel bad for the kid whose dad was having a meltdown over boat proximity and probably ruined his son's day ! 😔
I would have said something like...Hey, could you toss me a beer 🍺 l o l
It was really Dove and I want to say the young man reach out to me, me, and him spoke, him, and I actually know of one another through Instagram. I had. I had no idea he was on the boat. He had his hat down. I couldn’t see, and it was foggy that morning, in hindsight, I should have been the bigger person and just went on without letting someone affect how I react, yo I appreciate you watching
@@John-pk3oh that’s a good one. If I use it next time I’m gonna shout you out this one’s for you.
@@LionelJamesfishingdraft 🍺 🥰🥰🥰
He was a little close, imho. It's a big ocean
Awesome job captain
When I’m out that far I really like to see other boats. You never know when an emergency happens.
this is why you can open carry guns when fishing or on a boat... id tell the dude "hey i have self protection and ill call the police if you got a problem"
Yeah, show shitty fishing etiquette by rolling right across a guys’ bow then threaten to shoot him when he takes exception to it. GREAT LOOK.
This video was truly awesome!! Just wish zest could of got in on it.
Good video Cole
Thank you!!!
On the west coast we use a butter knife to release the bait into the tanks so we don't touch the bait.
Nice! Good idea!
That's mess up. I would've been "Glad you showed when you did they're biting!"
Looks like so much fun ☺️
We had a blast out there!!!
Awesome video Cole, thanks for bringing us along. Merry Christmas to you and your beautiful family 👪
need to come up to NC and tackle these triple digit AJ's lol we have some that provide the pain... lol
Great video!
Thank you!!!
Great fishin' video... I was sure hoping to see you get to eat some back at the crib w/J and Cy.
Wish the snapper and amberjack were in season so we could have!
@@COLE_and_JAY I'm landlocked in Okla. It never dawned on me that saltwater fish had a 'season'
that's a lot of water and a lot of fish.... I catch bluegill, bass, crappie, sandies, and channel cat... What do I know?🤠 I try to learn something every day.... so I can take a nap afterwards. Zzzzzzzz
BTW I really enjoy your channel, it's very uplifting. And congratulations on the new member of your young family! Prayers for a safe landing.
You did pull up on him. I can’t tell you how many times someone pulls up and fishes right next to me when the ocean is endless. I get it when the spot is hot but it’s not like your in boca and the tarpon are only running thru a little area. It is public and you have every right to fish the area but I’d be pist too
You know the guy who was complaining to you guys for being there could have set such a better example to his son.
Imagine if the father said this instead: Hey Guys, how's it going? I'm having no luck so i hope you brought some with you. We as fisherman should be supporting each other not picking fights on the open water.
Right on! To much negativity in this world.
You haven't had a day off in weeks. You finally line up with your boy and go out on a quiet Tuesday. You get out to the spot and drop your line AAAAAAAAAAAAAAND someone pulls up right next to you. I don't think victim blaming and deferring to people that do the wrong thing is a good idea. Staying quiet hasn't served the world well at all recently. I'm certainly not planning any vacations to Portland. It was a jerk move.
@@royhummert7281 Yea, there's a reason for that. Staying quiet in the presence of crappy behavior is one of them.
@@rgriffith2006 I would be on your side if yes they pulled up right on them, but there was more than a 3 - 4 boat length between them. There was plenty of room for both boats to do well in that spot. Now I have seen people drive their boats literally across obvious fishermen's lines that we out and that is a jerk move all day long, but giving adequate space to enjoy a known public spot is reasonable.
@@rgriffith2006 there was plenty of room. Offshore fishing is too expensive to get all bent out of shape like that.
Way too cold for fishing here, but I can always tag along with you!! Great video, thanks!!
Cold sucks that’s why I moved to southwest florida now I just need to get my boat in the water
Good action! I have not caught a big red snapper yet. Waterland fishing optics are what's up! Just subbed 🤙
Like your channel, no reason for anchor next to another boat
We didn’t anchor up next to them. We went all the way to the other side of the reef and gave them plenty of room to operate. Lionel fishes out there multiple times a week and said there’s always multiple boats fishing this spot each time he goes. It’s a very normal thing, but that was the first time he had ever seen anyone become disgruntled by it. We hated that the other guy got upset, but since this trip, Lionel has been in contact with the guys on the other boat and they have resolved their differences which is great!
How ever you slice it, wrong thing to do. I also have boats, and make it a point not to crowed people.
THAT WAS A PRETTY RED SNAPPER🤠ABILENE TEXAS HERE😷GOOD JOB COLE
Awesome video
Let's Gooooooooo!!
Unfortunate Karen/Ken of the ocean experience😂 ...nevertheless awesome content!!
Thanks so much for the support! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Hey guys. Great video.
Do you just catch and release the amberjacks and snappers, or is there a season to keep them?
Watching from Canada 🇨🇦
My man, thanks for watching Amberjack and Redsnapper’s have a season typically red snapper season is June and July, at this time red snapper we’re closed and I believe, but please don’t quote me on that amberjack were close too The Redsnapper were more than keeper size, they only have to be 16 inches and above however, Amber jacks have to be 36 inches to keep.
Both the snapper and amberjacks were out of season in Florida waters but still so much fun to catch!
Cole that was pretty cool you could come to Florida and do some Saltwater. Fishing Enjoyed it
It common knowledge you respect distance and don't get into other fisherman's space.
Keep on doing of what you do brother, F them and the houses they road in on, for you have every right to be there as much as they do. I know this for sure, Old Master Gunnery SGT USMC.
Good video, that dudes head would explode if he was aver a part of the Maumee River Walleye Run, Maumee, OH.
Fun to watch...thanks man