Great MPG with a BIG Catch! 2021 Jeep Gladiator EcoDiesel In-Depth Review
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- We take the Jeep Gladiator EcoDiesel out for a spin to see if the price premium for this engine is truly worth it.
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I paid $42k USD + tax for my diesel gladiator and it’s got a lot of options including hard top, LEDs, all the safety stuff and cold weather package. It’s easily my favorite vehicle I’ve ever owned out of dozens. A tune also turned it into an absolute monster on and off road
What tune are you using?
@@jeffkeith20 I’d rather not say on a public forum but Banks also has an emissions intact plug in tuner that leaves no imprint. Similar dyno results
What state are you located in that you can buy it for 42k
@@abelduran9710 I ordered it from Gupton Motors just north of Nashville TN. MSRP was $51k IIRC
Where did you buy it?
The diesel Power is addictive, once you drive this diesel, it is almost impossible to go back to a gas engine. Especially when you throw a 3 1/3 inch lift with 37 inch tires, and some weight with gear to her. Perfect tow machine when you add Air Bags as well. I can attest this machine tows more weight confidently, without issues and thru the Appalachian Mountains than a Gas engine. I am also getting 31 MPG at sea level In Virginia Beach, VA.
What size trailer are you towing and what airbags are you using?
Your comment makes no sense… the power is addictive, especially when you put stuff on it to slow it down…???
too bad jeep reliability is garbage
"We are gouging you just enough!" What a fitting quote
See my thread above
I have a Gladiator Eco-Diesel and absolutely love it! I have 37's and loaded all the time...and it still gets great gas milage, pulls my trailer no problem as well. Price tag was a hard pill to swallow, but long term i think its the best choice. Plus deleted with exhaust, the eco-diesels performance is unreal
70% more torque, 30% more real world MPG.... that's really hard to pass up.
I think for me it all would depend on what I plan to do to it. If I were to keep it stock the diesel may not be worth it. However if I were planing a lift and 37’, the cost of the diesel would be mitigated by not having to change gears or do any other power mods. Plus a bit of savings in fuel would make it worth it to me.
The cost of gearing and power upgrades would be $2000+ and fuel savings of approximately a third of your fuel. I feel that whittles away at that $4000, enough to make it a good upgrade.
I’ve seen Diesel Rubicons at the same price as the gas models. That MPG is amazing. For the same price, I’d go diesel.
Coming originally from Europe Diesel cars are a common thing for me and a 3.0 V6 just sounds fantastic BUT the price, tow rating and payload make it a no go!
Mine can carry 1500 lbs based on its actual weight and gvrw and is rated to tow 6500. How much should a midsize truck be towing ? That’s a perfect number to me
65k!
@@Thefishingplumber Can get the Willys with Diesel for less than 50k
@@gnd111 really
I bought an EcoDiesel JLUR and so far I love it. In SE WA averaging about 23 MPGs. The hills up and down do impact the numbers.
I have the V6 Gladiator and I am glad I chose that configuration. Just for the fact that I have seen 3.6L Pentastar V6's go over 300,000 miles easy, and I haven't seen too many EcoDiesels without problems. I know it's a new generation of the engine, but it's a new platform, I don't want a new engine on top of it.
Me too. Very impressed so far with the smoothness /power/ refinement.
I own a large solar company. We have a load of 3rd gen eco rams and only one has been back to the dealer for anything and many of them are heading toward 90k miles already. I saw enough from that to feel confident ordered a diesel gladiator and I couldn’t love it anymore if I had to. I also appreciate the much stronger transmission
Just ordered my new gladiator rubicon eco diesel yesterday can’t wait for it to arrive 😍🥰
I want the diesel in exactly that color! Love it.
Business users in the USA, opt for the diesel, as it just tips the jeep into the higher weight category for commercial vehicles. I believe it's 6000lbs + whereas the Gas is 5800lbs. I could be mistaken in those exact figures, although the principle stands.
Rubicons are over 6000 as well
Love mine. Coming up on 5000 miles still very early to see if there will be any issues with the new Gen3. But so far I have no complaints. I would option for the Diesel again. 8% under invoice helped too!
Tips on negotiating to 8% below invoice!? That is a deal!
In reality it's mostly a $4K option in the US when not counting the transmission. Still a big chunk for dealing with DEF and what sounds like faulty DEF pumps in the cold. That MPG and torque makes it tempting, people are still getting over 20mpg with 37s, loaded and no regear. Also kind of wonder how that extra weight (+400lbs?) in the nose and lots of torque does on icy roads.
DEF goes forever on a tank. Not a big deal. The extra weight makes for a better ride and plants it much better. 50-50 weight distribution. That torque is worth the extra cost to me. I drove both - the diesel came home with me - easy decision.
I think the torque from the diesel for off roading, plus mpgs would make it worth it alone.
But if you could also get that diesel with a manual trans, then it would definitely be a hands down decision
100%
Like Volkswagen used to do on their older models
Love that blue.
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Just bought that exact model in that exact color a week ago. I got the 3.6 liter gas engine. Love it.
I love that Gladiator!! If I didn't need the tow capacity of my full size Ram, I would definitely buy this rig.
You guys hit the main two reasons I would stick with the gas engine, payload and price! Not necessarily in that order. Love the gladiator, just wish the diesel option was more worth while. Keep up the great content!!
I paid $42k + tax for my diesel gladiator with lots of great options, the payload on the door jamb is 1350 but according to the actual weight of my truck, vs GVRW 1500 is fine
I have the ecodiesel in my 2015 Ram and I love it
I drove the Gladiator diesel the other day and yes for 4000 usd more i would buy the diesel i had one in a Ram 1500 liked it yes the towing is less due to coolong issues not power but off road its a winner you dont have to charge up a hill just idle up it
I'd get the diesel if you could also get the select trac transfer case... it just seems to make sense to have awd capability when needed for a typically on-road vehicle... if they can have that capability in the RAM, they too should have it in the Jeep in my opinion
HECK YEA! There are other factors to consider. A relaxed engine making almost full torque of idle. Completely changes the driving experience. Imagine how happy this engine is in a gladiator when the ram pushed this motor to tow 12000+ lbs.
Go back a few years and people were paying 20-30 grand for a hemi conversion, at that time the hemi was 345hp and 375ftlbs, and prolly got 12mpg.
So how much of a value is a 260hp 440ftlb tw diesel that gets double those old hemi swaps? Plus a factory warranty ?
I’ve been driving Jeep’s since I had a license and I can tell you that I am sick and tired of underpowered engines in the Jeep’s... ALL OF EM!!!
You can count me in the diesel group, and as cool as a hemi is, the way Jeep positioned the hemi wrangler at 70-80 grand is insane, but they’ll sell like hot cakes I’m sure...
I think you hit on something when you described how with the 3.6, you really have to get into the throttle to access that high RPM power, while with the diesel you barely have to touch the pedal. A lot of people like that feel. I think that alone would be enough to push me to get the diesel, I hate having to flog an engine to access its power. That's the one major complaint I have about my 4Runner, that 4.0 V6 is very peaky and takes a heavy foot, making for what I feel is a rather unpleasant driving experience.
Brad from Trailrecon did a review of his ecodiesel, and he mentioned the advantage is not so much the fuel cost savings, but that the better mileage allows for a longer range. He also noted that the increased torque from the diesel makes for good driving experience, that even loaded down and running 37's on stock gearing, it pulls grades with no problem at all.
Look into getting the pedal commander for your 4Runner. I got one for my FJ Cruiser which has the same engine in it and it totally changed the way it feels when stepping on that pedal. It made that 4.0 really come alive.
Don’t think I’ll ever get used to seeing a Jeep with a bed but that is one amazing shade of blue. Nice review guys!
Perfect way to
put it. Dad was so right. "The market will decide"
Also with the diesel you have a smaller fuel tank. So 5 mpg is great, but you hold less fuel. What is the range compared to the gas? Less towing and $6,000.00 more. Plus all the additional maintenance for the diesel engine. Also the needed DEF fluid? For me, it's not a game change.
Great video guys. 👍
Nice I am starting to like it , big question that DEF problem some people are experiencing !
5.7 hemi would be perfect
I heard they are working on producing one with a hemi engine in it
Why?
They have one but it's like 130k Canadian! Just get a ram or challenger for 50k if you want the 5.7 so bad! It's the same engine!
@@forza388 but it's not a jeep. Jeep people want Jeeps, engine options are second. I'm sure if all Jeep sold was 4 cylinders they would still sell.
I'm not a fan of the Gladiator but I do like your coverage! Great video
So I just did some “make-believe” calculations. Let’s say the Diesel saved you $25 per week in fuel expenses. It would take 6.9 years to get back the $9000 charge for the diesel.
That's what we were thinking Paul.
Keep in mind since it's a jeep in 7 yrs it will likely have needed 10k worth of repairs
Saving grace potentially is the 3.0 will hold even higher resale value. Maybe.
I like the power train, and would prefer it. But I wouldn’t pay that premium for it.
Actually, the money you save on fuel will pay for the additional maintenance the diesel requires. So theoretically, you’ll never pay off the engine premium.
Payload, with the EcoDiesel the payload is severely reduced. I don't remember the actual number, but it is the reason I wouldn't get the Diesel if I was looking to buy a Gladiator.
Edited for spelling, Phone keyboard helped me type "guy" instead of "buy".
I test drove one on sat and it said 1025 on the door jamb sticker the similar gas one i drove said 1375. Its pretty big diff for a midsize.
See my thread above. My payload on the sticker is 1350 but based on what my gladiator actually weighs and according to my gvrw, I can carry 1500lbs
awesome review
Thanks!
I've been wanting on this Jeep truck for 3 years! And now FCA is trying to kill it with the horrible pricing and limited drive train options.
In a world where governments are pressing automakers to go EV, it's pretty clear what is happening here. This engine should be the base stock offering and the cheapest to buy instead its an optional luxury expensive that only the true hard-core brand fanboys of Jeep will drop the cash to buy, as you pointed out it doesn't make economic sense otherwise.
The optional hitch gives you a taste of how the price will be extremely high if you want some equipment.
The trailer tow package is only $350, which is actually a good deal given you get an uprated alternator and cooling system along with physical hitch receiver.
And if I'm not mistaken also gives you the aux switch package. Probably one of the best priced options avail.
@@tonyk7899 On the Gladiator the aux switches are a separate option.
@@ALMX5DP Really? Feels like everyone should option that.
@@imnotusingmyrealname4566 I tend to agree, but there is no real downside to having it be optional. Choice is never a bad thing.
I agree it is an expensive option, but from what I can tell it's a similar cost to add the baby duramax in the colorado/canyon. I'd also be curious to see what percentage of wranglers and gladiators are sold with automatics anyways. It's fair to add the cost of the transmission since it's part of the total package, but I don't think the shock value translates that well since most people get the auto anyways.
People have been asking for diesel jeeps for years, so I hope they put their money where their mouth is. I just picked mine up and love it so far!
I would love to have the Diesel in the Jeep, problem to me is that Jeeps in general are just to expensive for what they are. And I know they're probably not really designed for what I'm about to say but they aren't real roomy or comfortable, and they don't tow very much. One good thing for sure though, they hold their value pretty good. Even with the negatives I'd love to have a new Gladiator with the diesel, they just need to drop the price about 10 grand below MSRP imo.
I have a 2020 Sierra 1500 Denali with the Duramax and it was a $0 upgrade over the 6.2. I am a diesel lover but Jeep is out to lunch and I would go pentastar in that truck.
Diesel is always expensive around me, historically about 20% more than gas, so the extra fuel economy would be a wash. If it was $1500 I might still go for it, but definitely not at that price.
10% ethanol fuels which comprise 90% of all unleaded 87 and 89 in the us sucks and hurts performance. Smarter to compare the cost of diesel to premium
@@smarterthanyou2674 All fuel around me is 10% ethanol, the grade dosen't matter. Gas stations around marinas are the only places that sell ethanol free here, and it's about $5 a gallon currently.
@@dcl97 so then diesel is a lot cheaper
The new eco diesel wranglers now are good deals in 2024
Happy to see you driving for a change . Great video luv the channel, keep up the great work !!!!
Thanks 👍
Awesome father and son video yet again! Like others said if this thing had a 6 foot bed and 1300 pound payload like my 2004 ranger and cost half as much they would sell like hor cakes to blue collar guys like me which want value and capability. But like all your folks mentioned...these are uhm. Lifestyle trucks 😂😂😂😂
They need a hybrid plug in version like the Rav4 Prime. 300hp and 90mpg when you use the plug! Also, you get a $7500 tax rebate for the purchase.
I say you got to go with the deisel if you do tires bigger then 37s
I’d say 35s. Mine on 37s and stock gearing will flat out embarrass a v6 on any tires. Towing, passing, climbing a grade and certainly off road
The frame can only handle a certain weight limit and the diesel engine weight takes away from what you can do, instead of beefing it up for the diesel they just slid it in there. The diesel does well offroad from the people that I have seen drive them, they really like the diesels. There are a couple canadians with diesels Jeeps and they do really well.
@@joshuapearson4491 the engineering issue is the vehicle frame has a maximum weight and the diesel weighs more reducing other weight capabilities. It is very normal for all manufacturer that follow this standard. You can not say adding a heavy diesel suddenly increases the maximum weight the vehicle is allowed.
I live in Seattle. So we don't get snow very often. But until Jeep can get a dash vent that keeps the entire windshield defrosted on a frozen snowy day I wouldn't buy one. We put a man on the moon in 1969...maybe...lol... but 2021 we can't defrost a windshield? Unacceptable.
That's precisely why the US government tasked NASA and not Jeep to put a man on the moon. However, if Jeep had won that contract maybe they would have taken those learnings and figured out how to defrost a car's windscreen.
I 3D printed a tiny vent tube that accomplished this. Fairly certain that there are a couple commercially available for $20
Not only is there a big upfront cost, but the price of oil changes as well are much higher on the Eco Diesel, if your not doing it yourself.
Oil change in my ecodiesel is the same as my hemi
I just DIY my first one for $65. If you can’t swing a gladiator oil change yourself then I’d question your ability to drive
@@smarterthanyou2674 ya I agree, but I think your putting too much faith in the Human race.
FCA Overcharges for the diesels but you buy a diesel for the experience and longevity. Diesels handle high mileage really good.
I don't think the diesel makes sense on the Overland option, but for rock crawlers looking to put 37+ inch tires on it, I think the diesel makes perfect sense because it has the torque to turn those big wheels.
That’s why I bought mine. Also gets 25mpg with those 37s
I took a Gladiator Rubicon Ecodiesel out for a test drive about 2 weeks ago and really liked both the sound and the torque produced by that engine. But the price tag was pretty steep at $85,000 Canadian before taxes. Once this puppy was loaded with all the aftermarket goodies that many owners would like to have on their trucks (winch, lights, rack or tonneau cover), this vehicle would be well over $100 k, making it hard to justify. It is a niche vehicle and just a little rich for my blood...
‘Member when diesel cost less than gas? I ‘member.
Diesel is only $3.50 a gallon here in missouri..
Also worth mentioning, the diesel weighs around 500 lbs more than the gas set up. Thats a huge pile of weight on the front axle, then add a winch and beefy bumper. For a work truck with 4 wheel drive it'll be good, for an off roader it would be questionable.
My diesel JT has been all over Moab with no issues to report except that 1500 RPM up the steepest rock races there is awesome
Drivability day to day says a lot and smiles per mile is often overlooked. If you are planning on an automatic transmission anyway, that cost is moot. I’ve heard around the internet there are lots of factors that affect towing; gross vehicle weight, frame, and suspension. One I hadn’t heard was engine cooling and it’s possible that under heavier loads maybe they had cooling issues? 🤔 TBD as to why I’m not any early adopter but prefer to wait and see approach. Like the videos, thanks, 👍🏼
Diesels should be at the same price as gas engines, part's and hourly rates BUT they're not!
The turbo engine is a good gas sipper BUT of course it's not in the Gladiator.
Yes FCA is gouging it's fan base for Profit in plane English.
The low towing capacity is because of not enough cooling at least that’s what Jeep claims
My dad has been struggling to buy a truck for the last 5 years cause he’s struggling to decide if he can stomach the $8,000 price tag for the 6.7L in super duty again like he did in 2012. I don’t have to tell you how much of a difference that engine makes over the 7.3L so I can only imagine the thought process of buying the useless eco diesel in a midsize truck for $6,000USD. That’s disgusting.
another expense to consider is maintenance on a diesel vs gas.
Too much money, but perhaps that diesel engine might be a good fit for the powerwagon.
The 3.0L Ecodiesel is just like the 6.4L Hemi not rational, heavy, overpowered and not as capable as you'd expect. The 2.2L diesel they have in Australia and Europe is a cheaper engine that does the job as well, it's just slower
The Ecodiesel is not as good as a 6.4L Hemi. If you want a diesel with FCA you want a Cummings
@@SeahawkAz Yes exactly.
I just bought a Diesel Gladiator. Diesel is the ONLY engine option I would consider in a truck or SUV.
Max towing diesel gladiator on all variations, besides Rubicon - 6500 lbs, Rubicon - 6000 lbs. Max towing gasoline gladiator Sport, Sport S - 7650 lbs, Rubicon, Mojave - 7000 lbs, the rest - 6000 lbs. In this video shows Jeep Gladiator Overland.
Jeep would be wise to include a manual transmission to match the diesel.
You want the fantastic 8 speed. Even In the US the diesel is still a pricey option. Jeep needs to drop a grand or two off that option and they will sell MANY more of them.
The diesel will easily out tow the Pentastar. Right up until the compromised by radiator, engine bay, and turbo heat computer controlled cooling system pulls the woe nellie. Towing numbers set in accordance with SAE J2807 towing standards.
Solution add small electric puller fans to the back of the radiator. Add aluminum dryer vent tubes with a rear hood vent or vent ports as close to the top of the doors as possible. Not without caveats but it would work to extract heat to allow contending with towing heavy or turning up the boost (by ecm) for mo power to turn those 42s! 😄😎
I love mine
I'd consider the diesel b/c of the power of that engine. Right now I have a Wrangler Rubicon 4xe, and the only thing I'd upgrade that for is a Gladiator 4xe (which will be rediculously expensive, I'd imagine based on the price of the Rubi 4xe). However, I'm at a point where I may hav to trade in the hybrid for a Truck, and the Gladiator Diesel may be the only one I'd consider b/c extra room over Wrangler JLU, and off road capability of a Rubi Gladiator.
Remember the convertible Dodge Dakota? Of course it was way back. If I was getting a Gladiator, although I like the diesel, I don't think I would get it because of the cost.
When the Cummins diesel is offered , I’ll buy one
Having owned both there is no chance id give up the diesel, nothing over 6000 pounds is going to be fun to tow in a gladiator. I have towed around 5000 in the gas and it is totally doable however you cant replace the torque or mileage gains. Gears can help but its still not comparable. Then you add a banks tuner to that.
The only reason for me to buy a gladiator would be the diesel option. If you can afford to pay up for a Jeep brand vs Ford, Chevy, Toyota the extra bone$ shouldn’t matter. The other mid sized trucks are much more suited to everyday use.
I’d put my $42k diesel up against any midsize truck on the market in terms of space, function as a pickup and fun to drive
I wish Jeep would offer the 5.7L HEMI and the 2.0L Turbo in the Gladiator. It seems strange FCA limited the Gladiator to just 2 engines. As for the Gladiator tow ratings, I would rather tow 6k with the diesel than 6+K with the 3.6l any day.
Seems about right if you remove the 2 grand for the 8 speed auto which is a fantastic trans. The other 7 grand sounds about right. My 1996 F350 had the diesel 7.3 Powerstroke added when it was ordered in 96 it was a 5 grand option that's in Canadian bucks. So let's see that was 25 years ago so 7 grand for the better mpg and torque may not be that much after all. I would take the Pentastar over the diesel unless I planned on owning the Gladiator for 12 years or more. Would make a great plow truck.
Curious to see if anyone's doing a long term review with the tuned diesels
Im in New England I'm going diesel in my gladiator
The mpg should be compared to being a savings lol it’s 4.60 a gallon for diesel here it’s nutz
As a GL owner I will make a few points after several months of ownership and my third jeep in a decade. 1. This ISNT for everyone. If your looking fir a mid sized truck, drive them all. These drive differently. Solid axle up front needs a little more attention. 2. Its shaped like a box and it lets you know. Windy days can be a handful, but I would say wind noise isnt actually all that bad. Thats me coming directly from a 2019 tacoma trd pro. 3. These arent huge trucks and your limited to a 5’ box thats a little on the shallow side too. Dont expect miracles when it comes to passenger room but it does well for its class.
Upsides: 1. well this truck is solid axle lol, easy to lift and somewhat easy to maintain. Oil change took me 15 mins in my driveway. 2. HUGE aftermarket support with the ability to really make it your own. A clean build turns heads. 3. The 3.6 and the 8 speed auto are matched well and even with my small lift and 33” tires, im getting 19-21mpg. Nit bad. My TRD Pro was 17-18mpg. 4. It tows my 3500lb trailer surprisingly well, yes it likes to rev put you can argue my Trd pro 3.5 was more rev happy. Overall its not fir everyone. Watch reviews like TK and others with good feedback. Narrow down your 2-3 picks and go from there. I know I love mine!
Very well summed up. Thanks for this.
Update:
I went to 35” tires and it hurt mpg and the way my Jeep drove. Dropped to 16-18mpg with stock gears. Just ordered a rubi ecodiesel. I should of spent my money once, but on my upside i bought my sport s for 45k and just got 55.5k on trade with 26,000kms. Insane used market right now.
I want the diesel but I want it in the base model. When I try to build online, it says you can only get it in their top $ model.
What about the DEF. Fuel filters need to be changed more often. Have thoughts on the added maintenance?
I think alot of people "like" the diesel, but not for that price, especially on an already very expensive midsized truck.
68 mph? Drive that on a US freeway and you’ll run over. I’d like to see mpgs at 75-80 mph. Given that gas uses regular which is only about .20 US difference in my area, it’s going to take a long time to make up that costs difference.
the torque makes the biggest difference
I just ordered a new Gladiator Rubicon with the diesel engine. My reasoning was that it should not have to be regeared to run 37" tires, which will save me $1500-2000. Like you said, you have to buy the auto tyranny anyway, so my $4k diesel option is only $2000-2500 out of pocket. I also wanted the extended range on a tank of fuel.
Doesn't the diesel come with the 3.73 instead of the 4.10 on the Rubicon?
I think the Rubicon and Mojave Gas come geared perfect for 35s and 37s stock.
(US comment): at $6,000 the diesel is effectively at $100 per month option on your payment. You will not drive enough to save $100 per month on fuel.
Oh you certainly will on 37s or bigger. And it’s $4k over a v6/auto and you also get a much more robust transmission, stronger steering setup and the driving experience a jeep always should have had
I get 25mpg on mine with 37s and a v6 is getting lucky to do 15
Why alot of manufacture do v6 engine it gets almost the same mpg it's lower hp and torque and they weigh the same if look up the dry weight spec's plus dimensions fit almost the same of a v8 engine
I would if I can get it in a manual transmission
Nice color blue. No longer FCA...now it is STELLANTIS. Rumors are that only thing left of Dodge and Chrysler will be RAM trucks and JEEP brand. FIAT diesel has suspect quality and reliability.
Bottom line it is not the market that decides if they want a diesel or not a diesel. European manufacturers sell diesels about $3000-$4000 above a comparable gas engine. The fact is that US manufacturers do not want to sell diesel in the US. And Canadians are just along for the ride till our population gets big enough to make our own decisions through distributors. Canadians used to buy way more diesels per capita than in the US especially when a European manufacturer offers the option.
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It doesn't matter what it does, what can you put in a 5ft bed? Drywall, a couch, and ATV? Maybe, but none will fit great and all would hang out quite a bit
It still accommodates a lot of what an intended buyer might need, and you could always get a bed extender.
@@ALMX5DP i get what you're saying, but someone who likes off-roading, you think they might be interested in ATV's? At the end if the day, having no option to toss something large in a truck bed seems silly to me. But I also find short boxes on full trucks silly too. And the odd reality of these days is that most truck owners are city people who put 2 Walmart bags in the back of their trucks lol.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors Sure, but the Jeep in itself is an experience offroad, so there can be fun without an ATV (which could also be trailered in if you opt the tow package). Also I just Google'd Jeep Gladiator ATV in bed, and got a surprising number of picture results showing people managing, so there's also that.
@@ALMX5DP yes, but having the rear weight of an ATV on the tailgate, is that ideal? I'll use my 850 as an example, fits fine in my 6'4" ram, the rear tires are in the bed but the tailgate must be down. The rear of the ATV is in the 500lb range with no accessories. 500lbs on a tailgate, I do t know what one could handle, but that seems like a bad idea sitting still, let alone going down a road with bumps. Lookup 850 highlifter in a gladiator, you'll see what I mean. Never mind the method they used to get it in there, because that is just silly.
@@EC_ATV_Outdoors may not be ideal, but if large ATV carrying is your priority there are plenty of other options for you. Doesn’t mean this isn’t a bad choice for someone who has slightly different wants or needs, and still accommodates with a little ingenuity.
From what I have seen, it is only a $4000. option in the US.
I would buy diesel over adequate gas engine
My question for the both of you with both of you being bigger men like myself.... How comfortable are you in this truck for long rides????
I'm looking at getting the eco diesel
8.1 is really good. A Prado with the 2.8L diesel won't match that.
It gets worse, that Prado will probably be on the road for 10-15 years longer than the Jeep getting that poor fuel mileage.
@@rightlanehog3151 Lol
do they change the frame to accept the diesel?
I think it's relatively safe to say 99% of Gladiator buyers are going to want the automatic trans, so the $2000 charge for that shouldn't be held against the EcoDiesel. As such, that makes it a $4,000 US option. Still not pennies, but not the $6,000+ mentioned. The larger problem I have overall with the Gladiator is how you get nickeled and dimed for everything. Even the "top" trims lack a lot of available options, which means it's very easy to get up with a sticker close to or over $60k US by the time you add all the things you want and that other trucks include as standard in their upper-level trims for less money. When I look at my Canyon Denali and an optioned-out Gladiator I don't see an extra $10k-15k of value in the Gladiator. What you're paying for that that point is for status.
Yeah, I think you buy this engine because you like the feel of diesels, not for the mpg savings. The cost of the engine would take a while to pay off.
Agree! I think this must be great to drive, with all that low and torque. Plus if you add larger tires, you're less likely to need to re gear.
If you’re gonna run 37s or larger the diesel absolutely will pay for itself in the mpg delta. Mine still gets 25 and I’ve been in one on 40s getting 23. Hand calculated
@@smarterthanyou2674 Good point. Overall plans and setup can make a big impact.
wondering what the reliability of this Italian diesel is - guess we'll find out
Already reported issues on GL forums. Happy with my 3.6
@@betweenthepines4000 those issues are software related and a fix is nearly complete. I have dozens of 3rd gen eco rams in my company fleet with nearly nothing to report except great mpg and a bunch of them are heading to 90k already
It has nothing to do with cost or recovering the cost. It’s all about range. I want the range a diesel can give before even adding jerrycans and aux tanks.
I plan on leasing a Willys ecodiesel. $520/mo. It’s about the drive-ability for me.. I hate the v6; had two grand cherokees with it and it drove me nuts