Cheap RC Cars that go fast! Project 100MPH WLtoys 124017
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Can these Cheap RC Cars get in to the 100 MPH Club? Yes... they have already got there, but I haven't. Here's part one of the journey, I hope to do a few changes and get back out there. Also, the WLtoys 144001 Speed Build will be coming back to the channel as soon as I replace the ESC! #jager13
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Hey Tomley nice run dude the cars looking sweet! But the weather is absolutely hammering you/us,I'd put her away for better days. Thanks for that awsome! shoutout hugely appreciated mate erm I dont think i need to tell you what to do. I agree with you and (Driftomainics) get the front down with droop screws she'll fly!
No worries mate. I've watched a fair few of your videos.... I'm just shit at commenting as I have stuff on while working. You'd be surprised at how many people will want to know all the in and outs of setting them up :) Keep doing content mate...it's massively helpful. Droop screws were in, I think the main issue was the little hump in the road. I have a nice smooth area to use once the weather picks up! Hopefully by the summer we'll all have laid down some decent speed!
@@TomleyRC I think alot wrench and watch at the same time, i know I do, it makes sense. I forget to comment aswell,while your reading this, "I finally concede to the quality of plastic" but these cars have a huge place now in my opinion. You'll smash that 100mph barrier, I'm listening to it back with headphones. Check your drive shaft and diff mesh. See if it's too tight, wierd whining noise coming through. Any way
Thanks again and I'll keep it coming Tomley much appreciated.
@@mehimrc1314 The Centre shaft suffers some vibration at high rpm's.... a bit like the rear shaft issue on the Infraction/Limitless. I stuck a new one in as I bent the first one slightly at the skate park... first run with the brushless I thought it was gonna shake itself to bits lol. You can hear it on Richies video as well. Diffs are all good, removed them and greased and set up before taking it out. Looking forward to cracking that 100 barrier!
@@TomleyRC ah well mine should make the same noise haha. Pure insanity these cars. A neighbour said back in his day, things like these were just pipe dreams. He was flabbergasted seeing the 144.
@@mehimrc1314 Yes, crazy speeds now with Brushless. They always impress people outside of the hobby :)
Nice one for the shout out to Me Him. Great to see RC channels supporting each other. He has got some awesome tips on his channel and is a super nice dude too.
Yeah, I've watched quite a few of his videos. Very knowledgable on these things.
Don't apologise for making a long video, loving every minute of it!
Thanks mate
wl toys is always the best cheap basher rc cars and they are great cars to do projects on, so easy to upgrade and always good quality for the price
Happy to see that you didn't "forget" the 144001 ❤
No... it's still on! Just need to get the Electronics in it, will run it next time I'm out doing speed runs
@@TomleyRC
Cool Phil you really dig in every RC "departments" and I praise you for that 👏👏👏👏👏
Mind blowing for a budget chassis and system can withstand 100MPH!
Great stuff!! Thanks for your updates on the 144001/124019, fun to see the options, and the results!
Cheers dude. No problem :)
Don't be too disappointed mate 72mph is QUICK! At least it didn't catch fire or crash or anything!
Yeah...it's fast!.... just not fast enough!
I like the long detailed videos that is how u learn things
Thanks mate. Tried to get some detail in without doing a full build
Just thinking about the reaction you would have got carrying a radio transmitter in the same location about 30 odd years ago :-)
haha
@@TomleyRC darn it reception would of been a funny play on words, instead of reaction
What’s up with that location 30years ago?
You may need to wait until the weather is warmer Phil,these Lipo's don't like the cold.
Yes, that's the plan
Ready to join F1 👍👍👍
Nearly haha
@@leosvids1297 you missed the joke
Go get some clear acrylic nail polish. It is excellent for waterproofing PCB's. I coat all PCB's with it. Rx, servo, light and sound, etc..
I love the 'budget' builds.
I've got some conformal coating... but just completely forgot it was so exposed 😅
@@TomleyRC Ya, I get that. Back in the 80's and 90's there were no waterproof electrics, nail polish was in everyone's kit. I learned early to coat stuff as soon as I had it in my hands. An ounce of prevention.
I heard Candle Wax was also popular
@@TomleyRC Candle wax, bee's wax, balloons, condoms, all sorts of sh1te. LOL Some worked well, some so-so.
Another great and interesting video. Thanks again for sharing and take care 👍👍
No way that's my combo I was waiting for 2-3 weeks now 😁🙈👍🏽 looking forward to the next Video...
By the way I put all my receivers in my Boats into an Ballon and close them with an zip tie no problem with heat and works so perfect against wet / water.
Nice regards ✌️🏽 😊
Yeah, I forgot all about the receiver. School boy error
@@TomleyRC 😁🙌🏽 anyway perfect setup
keep it up and stay safe ✌️🏽 😊
Nice run mate! I love that everyone is pushing for 100mph and beyond!
Yes, crazy isn't it!
Very cool build!!! What I like is get something cheap and put expensive stuff into it. Nice!!!!
Yeah, the parts cost more than the car haha
Wow bro, I wasn’t expecting you to even get 72 out of it to be honest. It looks really good as well Phil. You’re gonna hit the 100 next time without a doubt.👍
Cheers dude. Yeah, decent speed really.... a little more work to go
I like the paint.. looking forward to seeing 100mph
Me too... hI chose Orange as I heard it's faster! lol
Awesome! Really looking forward to seeing the progression of this project.
Me too!
Sweet bro get the helicopter by the same name and manufacture sweet 👍🇬🇧
I think a great combo would be a castle sidewinder 4 paired with the 6900kv motor you'll definitely go fast on 3s with that. Castle creations are a great choice for speed running
Yes, I have a Castle Combo to try :)
Very very THX your idée..the battery velcro..👌🤝
I love when you do long videos the longer they are the more I like them
Thanks mate. I try to get as much info in as I can, without to much unnecessary stuff
Cool video and information,a little tweaking and bam,awesome RC
Thanks dude
trial and error it's part of the fun!
Agree. I like to see the progression
Is very fast for cheap car good job
it was cheap, now its fast not cheap.
Yeah haha... it's a Cheap expensive speed build
Its fun.. Thats what matters 😁 looking forward to next episode
@@gazzwad I agree with you
Thanks for doing the testing on various motors and esc.
No worries dude
Have you set the Punch on the esc and the other parameters..
*Also a high C lipo..
* some weight on the front end
*lower the CG
*higher pinion gear
We often think by putting more expensive components in a stock RC it will automatically make it better or faster!? A huge amount of R&D goes into building these RC's and and often very good to begin with thats why it's hard to improve on a stock platform? 🤔
Good Video Tomski 🇬🇧
Yeah. the next step is to sort the ESC/Aero out, and then wait for a warmer day!
Great video man! Thanks for the details!
No probs dude
Can’t wait to see more on this 👍🏁
Wow! That's pretty fast, dude!!! 😮
Looking forward to see what you do next!!! 😂
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Yes, good fun building it!
have you watched Raz shifirin,s videos? He produces a little gadget called perfect pass, it is a programmable widget that feeds the power in gradually according to how you set it, basically launch control for an RC car-helps with controlling the squirrelly stuff! Enables you to just pull full throttle from the start, without losing control.
Nah... the fun part is launching yourself. But I do appreciate why people would want to use it.
Looks like you need a coffee after than one ! £2 in the pot for ya. Great upload - keep up the good work!
Welcome to the Coffee Club..... Thank You 😍
Really interesting vid! I really enjoy these ones. Looking forward to the next installment. 👍
Cheers mate. I'm already getting some stuff ready for the next one :)
The wing has broken during coold🥶 weather conditions, only to replace it aluminum, plastic breaks down in cold🥶 environment, nice testing runs, it looks good almost.😁🏗️👍🤔🧙
She's fast but she did not look fast on the video. Great video👍💯👍
Big open space... hard to see the speed. It looked quick as it passed me :)
Man, it sounds wicked. Love that surge sound.
not a bad effort bud , looking forward to seeing the next installment 😃👍
Cheers dude
Run them like u like too . , you got me really interested now. .
I'm going to pick up this 111wd47. .lo
For I been checking it out .. I like the purple. .
kit version WPL on the way . First.
Cheers ☕🍩
I'm not gonna lie, I love that body. great video
Thanks Brad
Great speed run.👍👍👍👍
Cheers dude
Nice looking build mate, battery tray modification is the way to go 👌 but yeah you're right as you mentioned you really need to get you head around the electronics side of things before just making purchases. Otherwise it's the classic saying "all the gear no idea" 🤣 The best thing to do is study a channel that is mostly dedicated to wltoys speed run. Alot of general RC guys spread themselves thin trying to get their hands on everything. There is only so much one person can do in a day 😅 anyway looking forward to seeing your next upload with these and good luck on getting the 100
Cheers mate. Since the 144 was released, my Limitless has pretty much been shelved. These are so much more fun... and so much cheaper to get them fast! Keep up your top work on the speed runs mate. I do watch most of them, I'm just shit at commenting 😅.
OMG that's the best reboxing ever
haha
The lowest recommended T or KV rating for this motor to handle 3S is 10.5T or 4500kv. In cold weather, most batteries discharge goes down very quickly, so get some batteries with higher C rating. Also, maybe get a Flysky Noble NB4 rx/tx. They are very good and a massive range.
Yeah, most motors are good for a few more Volts... as long as you don't give it to much abuse. The Radiolink is really good, I've had over 1000ft with it, just need to change the receiver.
Keep up the good work ya about soldering pinion gears Robert Cowan has a good way of doing it Watch his video soldering pinion drive gears I was trying to do the same thing wicking the shaft but u do the opposite get small amount solder inside the pinion & it works good I have used it on bigger moters with good results & I want to see that car doing 100 next vid lol
awesome, will give it a try
nice one mate that can shift very quick🤟🇬🇧👊😎😊👍
Love watching your content, dude - yeah, learning what works and what doesn't work makes this hobby all the more interesting - great job and fingers crossed for the 100 - you will do it mate! :O)
Thanks Mark. I think it's how my brain works.... If I don't know how or why something works the way it does, i can't move on haha. Cheers for the support.... Veteran Subscriber 😎
@@TomleyRC Same here, Phil - old skool thinking! Hey - who you calling a veteran? =D
@@MarkBryanRC Yeah, you’ve been here a while. Veteran sounds more ‘prestige’ than Fanboy 🤣🤣🤣
@@TomleyRC Too true - I'll take that from you, dude! All the best my good veteran friend! 🤣
@@MarkBryanRC 😎👌
I am curious about the rocket motors. I just put that 120a hobbywing in a b6.2. Ready to see the next run.
I can't wait till they put their 10th scale all wd model out.
Me neither
That burnt ESC looks the same as the one I picked up off bangood & it handles 3S quite well
nice bit of boxing there mate.
Great video Bro! Thanks for share it!! Yeeaah!!
FYI I used a 2850 (4500kv motor-Toacon/LC Racing)
Two 2s 3200mah batteries=4s and a 26 tooth pinion coupled to the stock 60 tooth spure gear
For a 78mph run. That has a Tacon Pursue, same thing practically.
“Still a bit slow”
Faster than every speed limit in the U.K. 😂 nice work! Earned my sub ;)
Hey man I just discovered your channel a few weeks ago and I'm loving it.
Thanks dude... hope you stick around
@@TomleyRC sure will
Great video
MCM represent. I have the Mira version of that poster
Yes, one of my favourite YT Channels
@@TomleyRC but first, Jack up your car
@@colinrixom8003 haha.... old school MCM
Fun to watch even though you didn't get it this time.
New video coming soon!
Except for the bump that was a pretty cool spot. I hate when the box fights back.
I agree with you and not to be critical of people that do it but spending $100 on a car and $600 on a motor/ESC doesn’t feel like an accomplishment to me.
I’m not sure what you have going on but that should have been much faster. I’m running a 2845 3930kv on 3s in my 144001 and get 60mph and I think there’s a bit more if I could find a place to run it.
Anyway, thanks for the project update. 💯👍🏻👍🏻
I think it was the temperature. I got 55mph on 2s with a lesser set up, but that was about 10 degrees (still cold)... but this run was 0... so the Lipos were probably struggling. I'll wait for it to warm up
@@TomleyRC it did seem like a bigger difference from 2s to 3s than it should have been so you’re probably correct.
That tsky or T-Rex will handle 6s with the right motor. You need to know what the motor will handle and also the amps it draws.
Great episode dude, nice bit of info too
Thank you :)
Rad I like your style. Thanks for the video
Thank you
Wicked fast
Yeah it's fast.... but I want faster! haha
@@TomleyRC i want my wpl to be faster lol
And to stay in one piece? Lol
I had two of those cheap esc and both of the smoked before even getting a run
ooo...bad times!
@@TomleyRC yeah wasn't happy but at least got a refund cant complain too much
You need to do the mod1 gear conversion and toe out the rear tires buy turning the pin stays.
That wing is killing you, in fact, breaking it probably would have helped your speed, if you hadn't replaced it. It's out way past the back wheels, meaning as you get speed, and the air puts leverage on it, it LIFTS the front of the car. You don't need downforce at the rear, you're not trying to corner at high speeds. It's just wasted drag. A fin-eqsue structure near the back might help with straight line stability; both because if its shape and the fact that it moves the center-of-drag back significantly. (like you need to on planes or rockets) Some people have hit 100 with the stock wing, but as far as I know, there's no advantage to it. (other than moving the center-of-drag back, but there's better ways to do that, if it's needed at all)
A couple other things:
Use negative rake! F1 uses it, so should you :) The front needs to be lower than the back, this will create more downforce than that little wing, (with less drag too) and increase stability. Someone else showed that there are holes for grubs screws on the suspension to pre-load it, thereby lowering the suspension. If you did lower it, it's not enough. You have to remember that when accelerating, the car is going to squat HARD. And at speed, the wing is pushing really hard on the rear suspension, and there's no aero at the front to even it out. So by the time you're at 50mph, it's probably higher in the front than the back again.
That body... is not exactly aero dynamic either. Not 100% sure exactly how much of a difference it makes, but remember that drag is a function of the SQUARE of you speed. The faster you go, the more every bit of drag matters! Considering the front is as brick-like as it can get, I'm guessing it's having a pretty huge impact. That body increases the cross-sectional area by at least double, if not more, not to mention the back looking about as aerodynamic as a pickup truck, lol. It may look good and make it easy to fit stuff under, but the faster you go, the higher percentage of your power you use JUST to fight the air resistance.
The biggest thing is probably that pavement though. The aggregate (rocks) in the asphalt are half as big as the tires are wide, and the tar between them has worn down so much that you're only making contact with the tops of those pebbles, which are nether flat nor smooth. Imagine driving over that if it was all scaled up, it'd destroy your car, lol. Plus those cracks are looking like half an inch or more deep. Scaled up it's like driving over a drainage ditch... You can't get up speed if your suspension can't keep contact with the ground. Even if it were dry the size of the contact patch is, at BEST, going to be the size of ONE of those pebbles. It needs more traction, and I don't think just waiting for it to dry is going to cut it.
For this, you really have to keep the scale in mind. Every crack is like a 3-foot wide pot-hole. Every 'bump' you see is a hill to the car, not a bump. The pebbles in the concrete are like hitting a 6 inch tall rock. If the car was bigger (especially the tires) they'd have an easier time dealing with the bumps (the same way you want big wheels on an off-road motorcycle). Usually bigger tires means slower, but on this particular surface, its probably the other way around. Either way, switching to a smoother street would be a huge advantage. There's a reason people running crazy fast 150mph+ rc cars do it on brand new pavement.
The first Wing was a lot better, with minimal down force and only the end plates left on it. I have a few tweaks to do to get it a little more slick. It's all good fun :)
6:15 I was thinking it might be the cold, when I was in NJ my lipo run time on my RC's was literally halved in sub-zero temps. Did you do the droop screw mod to lower the front? That will help keep the nose down. 9:30 looked faster than earlier passes as well. Thanks for the shout out! I agree with your comments at the end and that's why I've not gone and put a TP motor in and a huge esc as I think with this car it responds very well to being kept light. I think with what your proposing it should go over 100, I am thinking that 0 deg temp didn't help today. Stay safe
Yes, coldest I’ve run at. The road I was going to use was sheet ice. So this was the next best thing. Going to wait until we are in double digits for temp and then run again. One of the last runs seemed quicker... but the GPS stayed on 66, maybe a glitch. Anyway, it’s good fun with these as more people can get involved because of the relatively low price compared to what the big boys are running! Easy to break 60-70mph on a budget. Droop screws were in, a arms level with the driveshafts and stiff springs on the back. Maybe a touch lower needed. Looking forward to what we can all achieve!
Good stuff man, loads better than watching numpties break stuff.....including lockdown rules.
Yeah, seen lots of 'groups' out there bashing. I recorded this at work, don't tell my boss haha
Good stuff, keep at it the 100mph is closer than you think
Yes, a few tweaks and I think I'll be there!
Sidewinder4 7700kv on 3s and u will hit it, get some higher C batteries as well.
Yes, that would do it... gotta watch the temps. Motor RPM max is 100k, that combo on 3s is 90k rpm 😅
Too cold for speed runs! Lol! Lipos loose power below 35° degrees... Still fast! 👍
Agree. I'll wait for warmer weather
@@TomleyRC I used to put the lipos in the storage/charge bag and warm them with the car heater on the way to the flight field on cold days...
@@mikesrcgarage Sounds like a good tip!
super run brother top . I subscribed to not miss anything
The ebay seller I get the same esc from hast the good ones. I have ran 3s many times on 1/10scake,no problem. Could be motor kv is to high. Get the surpass 150amp esc at Banggood for 50 us.
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Awesome video tho bummer weather was too cold to cooperate. To keep that rc stable,you should add/make a front splitter and possibly a rear diffuser being is already has a flat underbelly as that should definitely keep that thing stable at high speeds. If possible try to lower it and play with the spring rate and make them slightly stiffer as that should also help. Looking forward to seeing this thing go faster,lol
Yes, lots of work to do...but it's all good fun :)
@@TomleyRC lots of work is part of the fun when it comes to rc's in my opinion 😁
Just amazing run 🔥💥🧡
Try taking the wing off. It had to be causing loads of drag.
I think it may do the closer we get...but at the moment I think it's not doing too much. I will be changing it anyway.
Try adding a little bit of downforce on the front, should stabilize it!👍🏻👍🏻🤘🏻
Yeah, I have a few ideas for the next run
I had the same Contact foam wheels, but the rear ones were too wide... Now I want to buy them again
High kv draws more current, low kv draws voltage.
That's not a bad run still
Use a speed passion 5.5r motor.
You haven't got long...before you know it the 1/10 one will be here !!!
Yes, Feb/March I think
As usual love the vid but you need to get that Sidewinder in there😂
Go big or go home right?
72MPH is good, if it was warmer it would go better.
The punch and excell options limit your amp-draw. This limits your top end as well.
Thanks Bob... I'll get the program card out
Did you remove all limiters in the ESC? Punch Etc?? 0 degrees means you were also fighting very dens (SP??) air.
Not yet, straight out the box. Will play about next time (when it’s warmer lol)
You showed the LC Racing truggy and it at least has decent gears in it- real steel. It’s hard to believe anybody can do speed runs on any WLToys vehicles with their pot metal gears. How do they manage to hold up? The LC Racing truggy might be a nice one to do speed runs on right out of the box. It already comes with a nice brushless set up.
The LC Truggy is good for about 50mph at the mo on 3s. These WLtoys hold up well considering :)
I think the reason it wasn't going as fast in the first few runs is because the hobby wing ESCs usually need tuning with a progbox, since they usually only come standard running 70% power.
Be careful with that SW4, connection come undone east.
u can use 3s under 2000mah any bigger it will fry i have about 10 wltoys
Aero is king at the speeds your aiming for.
Find a more slick body and lower that sucker right down.
Yeah, needs more Aero work
Is there not a way to decide whether to try 3s power 11.1v when it's designed for 7.4v 2s..?🙊😵🤢🤒
I'm trying to get my ftx vantage to 60 mph by the end of summer I'm looking at a surprass hobby 80 amp esc and the motor wonddering If surprass is worth the money than to just get a hobby wing
Good ESC's, just not for high Kv motors. Stick the 80A ESC in with 4000kv and try and gear it up a little
I’m also wondering if the vehicle is just not aerodynamic enough maybe trying a different body
Hey Phil yousee the new WL toys 1/10 scale buggy just announced? Looks pretty nice and only 150$
Yes, once has been pre ordered. Could be a cheap entry in to 1/10 racing for some people
Hi.
Nice work.
Can you convert wlcar to work with 3s .
Or can you give me some information which model will work with 3s and what motor and ESC.
Thanks