Kuva SOBEK & Tenet GLAXION | 2 Boring New Weapons...2
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- Kuva SOBEK & Tenet GLAXION | 2 Boring New Weapons...
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What's good folks?!
sad 2 new weapon releases.... featuring the Kuva Sobek and Tenet Glaxion.
Enjoy...
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00:00 - Introduction
00:25 - Kuva Sobek Stats
00:58 - Sobek Bonus Element
01:45 - New Gun Augments
02:52 - Sobek Loadout
05:47 - Glaxion Stats + Element
07:10 - Glaxion Loadout
08:40 - WF + Glaxion Synergy
12:09 - Conclusion
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No Galvanized Savvy on the sobek is criminal. Never cook again
The issue at the moment, its not that the guns are bad, its just alot of players wont let go of the meta. Which in this situation are incarnon weapons. Im enjoying these weapons and they definitly do melt in lvl cap. I grew tired of incarnon weapons, meta loadouts tend to ruin any experience that new weapons can provide.
you know you can "level cap" with a stug, so that as a factor doesn't make them worth while at all.
there are a bunch of Kuva / Tenet weapons that are way better and do way more and are unique in what they do.
the game has evolved drastically and weapons should as well.
I'm actually not a fan of incarnons because of the ramp up which, while fast, 2 seconds in a 94 second mission is massive downtime. Even in harder missions it's a liability when there are weapons that function fine without the ramp
@@KnightmareFrame i dont disagree with you at all. Weapons should be evolving with the game. Just taking a look at ths comment section i couldnt help but make that statement due to majority saying "not worth removing incarnon"
@@actellimQT the 2 seconds is the reload, it would be the same as reloading your weapon lol. That's the stupidest thing I've read. Don't reload your weapons, there goes your 2 seconds. 😅🤣.
@@joshuaSand3rsbramma don't need reload
The problem is that the standard set by incarnon weapons is so far ahead of everything else that even the best non-incarnon weapons are seen as unviable or mid at best.
A perfect example is acceltra prime. Had it released before incarnons were a thing, it would have almost certainly been a top meta weapon alongside the likes of kuva bramma, kuva zarr, and tenet arca plasmor. However, torid incarnon, strun incarnon, and latron incarnon are so much better than every other aoe weapon that those previously meta weapons are now seen as bad or only decent. The ammo nerfs to most aoe weapons certainly didn't help given the above-mentioned incarnons effectively have infinite ammo as long as you can get headshots (not even that for torid in particular). Even Trumna is starting to fall behind.
Underrated comment. Those AOE weaps still have the damage, but the ammo issues make them nonviable. I'd wish they would revert or +50% the ammo drop change so we can have more usable weapons.
I mean I would still use the Bramma and Zarr if they would revert the ammo nerf now that we have incarnons. I still dont understand why they dont change the nerf when currently the strun incarnon is one of the best explosion weapons in the game as a shotgun
+1 must say i freakin love using acceltra BEFORE ammo nerf, AFTER i dont even push 1 forma for prime, just nah with that ammo pool.
Bramma and zarr same problem, ofc energized munitions works good but... but using it requires build when incarnon dont need to. They cut up these weapons in a very strange way 😢
Actually not a perfect example, because Acceltra and the original Gauss release . . . GAUSS was amazing, but the acceltra was a copium shit tier crit none status weapon with the worst ammo economy in the game necessitating PRIMED ammo mutator and carrier. Guess what, acceltra is still a shit tier weapon, but everyone and them mum has used it and it still uses the VIRAL HM build that was common during its launch with only a marginal difference because Helmith is a thing now. It WAS a meta weapon, one of the most used in fact but unlike incarnons it was just "fun" and not so much "effective" by comparison to other weapons back then. A better example was when there was only ZARR AND only a fool would pick the acceltra over it because the comparison of damage, crits, status was night and day . . . but guess how many people used the ZARR ? None, because a lot of people don't like single shell/slug reload. I never deleted my 4 forma Zarr from those days.
Therein lies the crux of this bad take and bad bias. Incarnons are a thing and technically they do some of the best types of damage for their given niche which for some of them "torid kills anything and everything, including rooms while the Vasto murders demolysts" really don't have much competition. Now, if you don't like those weapons there are a dime a dozen similar weapons that can almost do the same thing "kill stuff" but they might require a different setup which will be better for the individual player as opposed to just generally being a brain dead good option. < Insert MAG meta weapons here > Do incarnons do the thing extremely well and scale? Yes. Are they generally better than what else could be compared to them? Yes. Does everyone like charge mechanics or that you have a lengthy grind to get the adaptor, evolve it, and hope you like it? No. I've used most of the incarnons and some of them such as the LATO "even with mag, yareli, or a niche build that should make it shine " I just cant bring myself to use it. Meanwhile I have alliance mates who on a whim picked up a 50+ % ferrox from Glast and for whatever reason LOVE it because sometimes weapons just have feels and thats fine too . . . I got a high roll 57% impact and immediately swapped it to a heat after liking it initially many months later.
Most people wont do endurance in this account lifetime past the point it matters. Some players end up in the 1000s range with a lucky duviri team, but that experience is fleeting and limited. Even the most lame monkey with a horrible build on all but 1 weapon or warframe can do EDA. The prior week I had loyal yareli with a slam ruvox and did 45% team dps for the entire session and it wasn't even maxed out. There's NO content to justify the power of incarnons. Incarnons are just "win more, fun more." Outside of the meta there sits dozens of weapons with unique perks or characteristics that make it worth building and using even if incarnons might do a thing better. I love my praedos, but I'll use a Jat Kusar, Caustacyst, or Falcor over it at the drop of a hat.
The real problem is bias. People say revenant is amazing and insert meta warframe is godlike. Guess how many people drop a WTF in chat after they see an ember prime nuke a 215 SP heavy gunner with fewer than 4 spells. Ember can kill a SP Heavy in less than 2 seconds with it dying to the dot and do it faster than launch day Dante. Guess how many of my alliance dropped plat for an Ember Prime set or parts and invested into her? 5 or 6 of my alliance did it along side when I hyped up yareli months before she become FOMO. Thats the REAL problem with WF is that people have bias until you show them the potential. Why use Tenet Plinx over a Laetum or similar incarnon? Sometimes you're in the mood to YEET and murder entire packs of dudes and incarnons can't provide that.
LAzyFrame dropped a dumb video to drum up the comment section just like his Popcorn Tier List and I've seen him verbally berate/insult his viewers, so I guess thats the community he wants. A replicated Rio/Gaz shit show with no actual educational value or positive vibes except if its busted AF and will get patched "influence dual ichor as an example of that."
bro builds his glaxion like a single digit mr player and complains that its underwhelming
Exactly.
You're a clown😊
It wouldn’t matter how you build the glaxion it still SUCKS
i was floored when i saw how bad his build was
glaxion is actually great
Guys he had a very good build but I mean once you've used the incarnon torid it's just impossible to appreciate this weapons power.
Who let you cook?
Calling rn the glaxion rating is going to get a complete 180 once cold gets it’s full freeze effect in jade shadows
nuh uh
And corrosive will strip more armor %
Cold is already good. You have a lot of mods for condition overload and arcanes to boost damage while applying cold, that doesn't only works well against enemies defense, also CC the enemy and boost your crit damage. People just have to stop making builds that rely purely on viral, corrosive, radiation. You have to put something else. As you can do corrosive+heat or electric on your secondary and use the new arcanes, or corrosive+cold, radiation+cold on your primary. The last one is great against bosses and disruption and murmur faction. People are just still stuck in creating the basics.
Kuva Hek has the best update because you can equip the 200 multi-shut mod with auto healing capabilities.
Honestly this is absolutely correct, kuva hek is way better
You can equip the augment? Since when
@@colinjames1753Since this new update, but just o the Kuva version, not on the Vaykor
I clicked on this video for the comments. You got your “view” and I got my entertainment.
My man cooks like he's never seen a kitchen
I pretty sure it only sucks because the eximus slot won’t allow Prime Sure Footed.
Learn English before attempting to criticise someone.
Lmao
@@hipperguy1654 KnightmareFrame isn't going to fuck you, bro
Depending on how the rework to cold status might go, tenet glaxion might have potential and could be worth investing in
Cold is already worth investing. People just don't know it yet. Specially after the release of frostbite. People are sleeping. The only thing that the rework will do is make it a lot easier to kill people. But cold is good for many different reasons. And is a must go in many hard content such as disruption where you need to slow down enemies and if you have a frame with CC skills they will be stunned for a while. Let's not even talk about how it works well against armor, shields and even gives you a boost on crit damage. 😅
@@joshuaSand3rsthat's just like a priming thing though, with the epitaph
Have you seen the Saryn build, all 5 emerald shards on toxin status deals more % damage, acid shells + roar, strength build? I heard that its really good, unfort acid shells is bugged =(, maybe you can do a build with her or do you think this is a flop build?
edit: 5 emerald shards on toxin dmg or 3 on toxin dmg and 2 on corrosion stacks, not sure which is better
prob the second cus armor go poof
You have to be my favorite content creator and Warframe has a lot of great content creators.
I just discovered your channel a few short months ago and personally I don't think anybody explains things better while giving him depth explanations.
There are so many small nuances in this game and I have to say I'm very impressed how you take all these nuances and put them together in your builds and in your in-depth explanations.
But what I truly enjoy is the laid-back approach and at the same time diving right into the nitty gritty and smiling the entire time.
Fairly recently I was diagnosed with a condition known as CIRS which was formerly known as sick building syndrome. In my case I lack the enzymes necessary to break down mold in my body and it bypasses the blood brain barrier causing all the symptoms I've had my entire life. But I can't get treated because I can't afford it and I can't afford to leave this mold infested house And it causes all kinds of difficulties processing information. It's frustrating because I'm an ENTP and I love The challenges of uncovering new ways of doing things But because of my condition sometimes getting dressed is a challenge especially doing it alone.
And this isn't meant to minimize any of the other content creators. And IMHO this game would not have achieved its success without the content creators that it has and has had.
Thank You!
Stay strong champ.🏆
Thank you for the reload; I couldn't figure out where that went.👍
They're here for fan service. People wanted sobek wraith forever and now we get the nice kuva version. I am a glaxion enjoyer as well and I will happily take another upgrade on me lazer gun
I remember Kyai showcasing Acid shells and the similar mods not scaling properly on Steel Path enemies as well. Was that ever fixed? For some reason the percentage didn’t take the steel path health modifiers into account
It doesn’t account for armor scaling just like shattering impact. Using armor strip fixes this issue
@@Tan42069 except the testing was on unarmored enemies. It doesn’t take steel path’s health modifiers into account, has nothing to do with armor. If you take the same level enemy side by side with armor stripped, you will see it’s not doing the same percentage of damage on steel path.
I agree with the sobak opinion. Its just a sobak with better stats but worst rivens.
Glaxion tho? You went with the wrong progenitor. Radiation/magnetic are the call with this weapon. A slash build works great on this weapon but ill personally go with corrosive + cold + radiation/magnetic.
The benefit this weapon have over something like torid or boar is that you don't have to build an incarnon charge. And primary frostbite also works wonders with this wespon.
At tge very least we only got 1 disappointment
What a joke. You don't need to build the incar on on boar. The weapon is way better without the beam of the charged incarnon. On board you wanna enjoy the multishot of the weapon, not the beam with increase fire rate. You talking about builds and talking about others that you can't even build properly yourself, apparently. And he did a corrosive+cold build at the end. I'd also go for radiation cold with frostbite, I'd just change 2-3 mods he puts on his build what isn't bad either. Most of builds streamer does are general builds, when you will probably make a different build more specific build to play certain content. You can't say the built is wrong, because it doesn't match your specific build, built for slash, that doesn't work for all contents. And why magnetic? It's one of the worst elements for this weapon. The only reason you are picking magnetic is for that plus condition overload that won't add much and even against corpus cold alone works a lot better against the shields. If you said electric. I'd even consider because it would work well with building either corrosive and radiation with cold plus would work well with purple shards if you wanted to make a build based on that. But magnetic has no good option unless you are old, didn't evolve with the game and you're still thinking about having an extra stats for condition overload.
@@joshuaSand3rsbro what ? Electric ? How does electric proj make any sense at all. I agree with his comment, he’s not the only one in the comment section with this opinion. Primary frostbite is great for endurance. No kills required to activate the perk on top of superior increase in CD and MS over base dmg. You also talk about gun CO as if it is overrated but that one additional element adds an additional 80% damage that you lose from swapping to primary frostbite. Not to mention crit buffs from cold procs. we know cold procs are getting a buff as well. And magnetic is going to be more useful in the future. His build of just viral or corrosive cold is so obviously suboptimal and that is before the status changes that are coming in the future.
Glaxion with Mag/Rad/Corro/Cold is definitely the optimal root and isn’t for a specific play-style. No outside buffs are needed to make it viable and works on its own. If you don’t understand why it’s better just admit it
For the Glaxion I would not recommend a hunter munitions setup, the performance is really weak and TTK is kinda mid. Try going magnetic (progenitor) with corrosive and cold, add some punch through and Primary Frostbite and top that bad boy off with the usual bane, gun CO, mulitshot and crit also viral from an external source, primer, nourish or companion whatever flavor you choose (In other words very close to your last loadout with some tweaks). Now your weapon links to more units compliments of punch through and it TTK is much better and makes the weapon more fun to play with. Still need to run some warframe synergy tests with this one though so perhaps HM perform better with the right frame but so far it is not my go to for this weapon. That goes the same for level cap runs, still need to test performance there for scalability.
As for the Sobek, I have not gotten my hands on one yet but I would assume an acid shell warframe combo would still do bits and if acid shell is bugged well that is fine they will fix that in due time and once we get that new augment from nightwave we can really play around with this one. Big old time fan of this gun so I am keen to see if any of these breathe new life into the weapon for me with some fun new / old setups for synergy.
I will say though keep an eye on these weapons when we finally get our hands on their augments and when the future changes talked about in the dev streams come in for elements and shields.
The chain weapon type is the best or almost the best type in the game now
The Kuva Sobek is a little disappointing. They should add a quirk or something and give it some innate punch-through.
The Tenet Glaxion is a neat upgrade.
Both are good weapons.
yeah innate punch-through would be insane buff for that weapon
@@valgykmorka Not insane at all. Single Target weapons are not very meta, the exceptions are almost all Incarnons.
i already use the sobek forcing it's crit, also frees a mod slot so i can add either the augment or punch through so it's great! assuming the riven disposition doesn't let me down
I'm using the original sobek with my saryn Prime Build right now, and I could nuke the entire room, honestly. The only issue I'm having right now is the materials for voidgel orbs, which I have to farm either cascade or void flood; just to feed my helminth.
exactly what were they thinking, if were not getting a cool alt fire why even farm for it and sp cascade is imo the best mission in the game solo 1-3 rounds for a great amount of resources and dopamine
I was also recently tweaking about the Ui changes relating to the magazine, specifically reload time. I liked knowing that information while viewing. Nowadays, it's hard to find
Do you think the augments will make much of a difference? Least with the Sobek?
Will have fun running the glaxion on dagath
We are not thinking on the big sleeper here: frost. With the new changes, will he add the critic of his augment to enemies frozen with the glaxion? We need to wait to see this, i went for a full cold damage glaxion to test this when the changes comes. its too early to judge the glaxion just now
So far the best thing about the Sobek is the lich's name I got was "Logg Aff"
😂😂
Mine was named Pog.
I know the wording is not the best, but it literally says that is for the magazine the mod
damn... expanding the forma pool for all the MR we need to get from lich and tennet weapons.
Whoa is that background music from ArcheAge? God what a throwback, surprised to hear it here
Didn't know acid shell was bugged I thought they had just added an internal cooldown to it. I got my kuva sobek yesterday and was playing around with it and noticed the inconsistency. I was also using the normal sobek on telesto to grind for my kuva sobek and thought it was quite odd it was inconsistently proccing acid shells, but it would proc frequently enough to make me feel as though it had a cooldown. I wouldn't have been surprised to see that happen to acid shells since the kuva sobek was going to be released and as far as I'm aware not that many people know how fun acid shells could be but would look into builds and then there would be an upsurge of players using the sobek/ looking for builds on the sobek and learning of the acid shells mod and how it makes a shotgun a room deleter. Anyway good to know it wasn't actually an internal cooldown but just a bug that cropped up. Hopefully they don't decide to town it down and then look at the Jat kittag and adjust that weapons mod.
You know a Warframe video isn't doing well if you dont see Pope of Awesomeness within the first 10 comments
I shall recommend you use the mighty seer (with secondary shiver) in his stead.
Not all weapons have to be dopamine fuel,you're use to spamming incarnons but regulars are just as viable
with primed shred or normal shred it chains to 6 enemies
I'd like for DE to let us use 2 primary weapons. That would be fun. We can already map wipe.
What would be the harm in running a Gotva Prime and Sporothrix or Kuva Zarr and Kuva Hek?
Double secondary would also be fun
The wiki isn't everything, however, the revision history on Acid Shells shows they added the Note about it having a Line of Sight check in 2021. Additionally, CoolKid369 has a kinda deep dive Sobek video from June 2022, which mentions and shows off the LOS check too.
Seems that a lot of the love some people had for Acid Shells was a bug
Iirc the LOS apply yo sobek acid longtime ago. Even the mob can block other mob from getting damaged
What is ur Calus Mini Tool?
Destiny 2 solar smg
TIme to update the saryn + sobek combo with the new augment and kuva variant
thank god someone big is talking about the bug otherwise it will never get fixed. DE please fix the LOS
I only like tenet glaxion because I'm a sucker for chaining beam weps
what is the name of the song on the video pls?
Of course you're going to be disappointed.. I'm tired
"It says 90% crit chance so i'm not sure how long that lasts" :') Always good for a laugh
pog weapons
sobek 3 augments is neat tho
but them blast changes with the justice syndicate effect since they seem to want to make them like the % hp aoe
also acid shell and its other mods dont take the correct % hp on sp enemys
i think i am gonna like the glaxion once i can get the augment from nightwave jsut swap it out for vital sense,could be a semi helpfull weapon that can also kill XD
agree on the reload ui change lol
I’ve always wanted a PHAT ice gun and now the Tenet version chains 😭
couldn't Radiated Reload be used for additional element and still gain some reload speed ?
Yes. Radiated reload is arguably the best reload speed weapon now because of how little it costs putting it on and the additional damage, so it's not just bare utility. Rad procs also indirectly buff damage because the enemy no longer enjoys the protection of friendly auras.
That build of his is just a mess
Man...the issue is that these weapons (Kuva,Tenet and Future infested) is that they need a rework/buff. If you compare them to incarnated weapons then yes they are weak. My issue is that the time feels about the same no matter what you shoot for just for the incarnated weapons. DE needs to give these weapons something new and tell the Torid to go screw itself. Its too overused and everyone knows it.
Corrosive heat or cold works better then the old tired viral slash heat type builds. Wouldn't know didn't take a normal approach and magnetic .ake the glazion a supe up nukor
They are realy good with specific warframes and builds. Kuva sobek ( toxin) -> Saryn. Tenet glaxion (radiation) -> Qorvex. (I don't realy like the shown builds.)
Exactly, either the kuva sobek or sobek itself, you need acid shells mod for the sobek, run around with the sobek mod that just came out recently, use saryn with acid dose.
Halcyona theme was a gut punch of nostalgia
Tbh I liked sobek and especially with gauss it goes boom boom boom😂
bad builds. my glaxion slaps.
I hoped to see better stats on them
What is the song of 11:30?
I started to farm them ended up farming another arca plasmor and another kuva tonkor lol
still waiting for DE to add more syndicate weapons, syndicate weapon mods, maybe syndicate special warframes, Would love a Tenet Opticor, maybe a Kuva Buzzlok.
5:56 what music?
That acid shell bug is a bummer tho. Ngl
People will cry when DE nerf the Torid riven dispo 😂
A few months ago they said they are only buffing riv dispos not nerfing cause they feel like its unfair to people who grind or bought the riv
Torid doesn't need a riven to be god tier
they will cry until people tell them it doesnt fockin matter
personaly i think sobek just need Punch trough and its ok ish shotgun, glaxion on the other hand i love
All im hearing was, PAIN and SUFFERING inside of KF
i want something like kuva trumna for my own sake
Wouldn’t make sense since it has an alt fire already
@@axdenplayz2367alt fire isn't a kuva weapon thing and also trumna isn't a grineer weapon. Next time use some braincells before writing nonsens
@@ReAcTiJOKERr you talking to me?
@@ReAcTiJOKERr if me yeah it’s nonsense cuz its just will never happen i just want to
@@axdenplayz2367 and hey about the alt fire, kiva zar has alt fire (the shotgun mode) it’s technically an alt fire.
Knightmare frame is really bad, he doesn't even have umbral sure footed
Yo can you do a video on the Kuva sobek verses kuva hek @KnightmareFrame
Dude reffers himself as endgame player, yet doesn't know how to build weapons... yikes
uat is the better build ?
@@johankaruyan5536 corrosive rad cold with magnetic progenitor, I also don't understand why he decided to put a magazine mod on a weapon that already has a pretty big magazine, and I would replace vile acceleration with shred aswell
@@dazubel y use rad and cold ?
Radiated reload increases reload speed, gives an extra status for galvanized aptitude, gives a bit of cc and helps with alloy armor and some factions like murmur.
Cold is the innate element of the weapon, will synergize with its augment, and you can use primary frostbite to get tons of multishot and crit dmg without needing to stack up like merciless. It is going to get buffed on next major update, so we'll see
when did he reffer that
last time i checked
he has said wf has no endgame and hes a late gameplayer
If it doesn’t mention a time duration, it’s all the time. Just like every over mod. Even the galvanized mods have permanent base bonuses.
How is this even a question?
well of course the galv have those
they are the base mods with slightly lower effect and an added bonus
but sobek isnt like that
Still no Limbo build ehh🥲
The only thing that's disappointing is this video
He is the only person saying these weapons are bad. Literally everybody else I’ve seen says they’re both great.
Cuz they cope for views
i didn't try glaxion, but sobek is just... mid..., it's good if you play saryn and kill a heavy gunner, which is pretty niche, so it's just annoying to use
Because youtube mans don't want weapons weaker than incarnon that cannot do level cap, because that's is the only content they play and is somewhat hard for someone who has everything in the game
sobek meh and acid shells bugged
glaxion bassicly on par with torid
but its because they arnt that diffrent from their none tenet kuva versions
Man it's so hard to appreciate any new weapons after the standard set by the incarnons especially if they have no fun gimmick why the hell would I choose the glax instead of the incranon torid for example 😢
Bro wants kuva surefoooted😂
oh, cool, it chains.
At current we haven't received the best advantage of cold. The selling point to cold is mostly taken advantage of by Frost (I plan to abuse it for sure). Sobek so far has a faction mod that adds a AoE effect, its high pellet status chance is nice to use, and it does well when modded. I found that taking cold for the shotgun progenitor (I had gotten a lucky 56% cold) allows this weapon to take advantage of the Nightwave status sobek mod and the sobek mod from steel meridian well. When they finish working cold in, they say that all cold applications can stack to 10, freezing the target and guaranteeing all hits on said target are near instant crit if not instant crit. Now add in Primary Frostbites main effect and you can push this little wonder tool to be a hybrid crit and status weapon. As I mathed (and its not the greatest), if you run the new multi mod and cold builders (sobek doesnt have to use cold itself, so long as you have a good back-up to build it or even a pet weapon to prime, I plan to run 2 versions, one for armor and health and one for shield strip which is enhanced cause its blunt follow up, glax is cool, but I think its best if we get the mod for it in nightwave and see how Frost handles it)
Frost has a special augment that allows people to steamroll frozen targets, adding a insane critical and effect on target meaning the frozen buff should benefit all frames, but frost's augment for dealing extra freeze damage or cold will really be nuts.
The build I went with at current for Kuva Sobek (56% cold for reference) is to run Galvanized Hell, Galvanized savvy, Toxic Barrage, (I threw in charged shell at 7 to keep myself to get the 60% electrical mod), shattering justice, frigged blast, clip delegation, and then cause I'm throwing so many pellets out I put a faction mod in (to take advantage of the odd status effects it applies). This build will work well against a lot of targets, toss in if you use this on Frost you can do a lot of interesting stat funnies such as that 200% dmg to frozen enemies and increase critical chance (which will be downright busted once the cold changes are fully implemented), and if you can add in say terrify (For armor strip) then you can straight out use just boosters for status and focus on damage/crit outright.
This build can be done by other shotguns just changed up a bit, Corinth is great with cold for example, puncture creates a higher chance to crit the target per stack, and cold increases critical damage, if done right you should be hitting red crits on most targets within 1 or 2 shots. I'd take a good companion that can rapidly apply cold, keep the Primary Frostbite, and change Corinth too a crit only weapon with heavy multi-shot and crit stacking. You can use anything as a back-up to prime the room, such as Kuva Nukor or Epitaph. I'd definetly take advantage of as much multi-shot and get the status to around 30%.
I tried to do something similar to Felarx, if you use Frost's Augment to get that extra damage to frozen the crits are stupid and the non crits hit like a truck anyways, the enemy doesn't win, its great because of incarnon adds radiation as well making the fellarx a great thunder delete against the Murmur enemies while also runing all the advantages of both sides when crits hit even if its low chance (throw enough stuff at the wall and you can still crit at times)
1:40 THIS, they could atleast give us the option for both!
Have to respectfully disagree on the Sobek experience it’s still better than its counterpart, there are some impressive builds out there already, of course it’s the a few forma and inquisitive imagination, if it’s not “meta” it means your builds need work. That’s the beauty of this game most if not all things can be broken or made to behave completely differently. I am running a Cold,Gas,Radiation,Magnetic ,Acid shells
Shivering contagion,shattering justice
Its does the job and then some
He does mention in the beginning that the Sobek is better than its counterpart in every single way. He exasperated a bit about it, but he's saying that it's not "meta" and can be easily outperformed. Knightmare's target audience is meta chasers and for them, Sobek just isn't it. Any weapon can "kill." Even the full Mk1 options. Incomparison to his build, yours is highly lacking. You're running 4 elemental mods and 2 augmented mods. You have no added crit, no faction mods, and no point-blank. What you have built is the equivalent of a CO primer weapon. Without massive help from Saryn, your build won't last long or perform very well in Steel Path.
@@berlioz4027 I more less like the idea of crowd control, crits aren’t everything in this game, status can be manipulated to be viable as can other aspects, with the right arcane my sobek can potentially disarm,destroy armor, and affect other targets , to be fair most opens don’t live long enough to get procs by magnetic effect, but it’s kinda nice to see a cloud of cold stirring in the air. You build your way and I’ll build my own. We can agree to respectfully disagree.
@@berlioz4027 second my build does well and even excels in steel path. I haven’t fully tested it with other warframes, so far I’ve done Excalibur Umbra, and Xaku( with nourish) so in theory and this isn’t plausible or combat viable my sobek could have void damage possibly.. if you have a tip that isn’t an exuberant mod like point blank, or any other prime mod I’d like to know about it. Raw damage or big numbers isn’t as important to me I like the imminent/eminent effects of cold,gas,radiation,magnetic
Possibly (Viral/void) on a sobek
@@caryroberts6748 Oh totally, man! I support your idea to play as you see fit. If crowd control and status effects appeal to you, I believe your build works perfectly for your taste. If you wanted a suggestion, I'd sub out your magnetic for some multishot with Hells Chamber to really amp up the status accumulation. Magnetic is really a underwhelming status and only adds extra damage to shields. The effect itself jist reduces shield recharge delay to shields. If you're letting a corpus enemy recharge shields, it might be a good time to extract at that point haha. Also, all 4 of those status effects you have equipped cap at 10 stacks each. The clouds your seeing when you kill enemies are from your gas element. When you kill an enemy with gas status, it'll leave a cloud that inflicts Toxin damage. The more stacks they have on death, the bigger the cloud. As for the Sobek kicking ass with Xaku + Nourish, you're running the meta of Sobek and Acid Shells. Xata's Whisper adds bonus damage and void damage to the weapon. Viral multiplies damage dealt directly to the health of an enemy. The combo is armor strip, apply viral (from Nourish), kill enemy, explode with acid shells, and kills nearby enemy's that are effected by Viral (Xata Amplifies the explosion by applying a 2nd hit). Same instance happens with Toxic Lash on Saryn. That's why Xaku and Saryn are meta with Sobek. But anybody with armor strip, Viral, Xata Whisper, and or roar will make nearly any weapon supperior.
@@berlioz4027 see I’m wondering where shivering contagion comes into affect as for magnetic effect there is a unique synergy with primary obstruct and thing hit with magnetic affect will be dual weapons, making its extremely hard to shoot at you. As for multi shot I run galvanized hell and either Gal savvy or seeking fury the added punch through is a decent idea for ammo capacity being an issue long term with this weapon.
Make a gun building guide just like the melee guide you made
I was so hoping before the reveal that the tenet weapon was gonna be the amprex, but tbh i have my amprex with 6 formas invested already, so im not that much disappointed because that means another weapon for me to build and try. And im a lover of beam weapons
I’m a new player (1200 hours) and my beef is, why don’t they just add a level cap mode. Takes to long to get to level cap an really is an esoteric thing to do because of the time commitment. However I guess we will see what’s to come after Jade update.
oh shut up about being a new player
because they cater to the casual playerbase and new players
@@noahedenborg4221 no I mean that guy claiming he's a new player while having 1200 hours
1200 hours isn’t new. Also at first I wanted a level cap starchart but after thinking about it I realized that that would make endless modes more boring since there would be no endurance aspect. Idrk how to word how I feel but yeah.
Yea nah , with gas the glax too fun
Could you do a video where you compare tenet glaxion vs glaxion vandal but you use a god rolled riven. Because I have a riven that gives +260% damage and +190% Crit damage and .7 damage to corpus. My vandal has hit 400k headshots on mirage. I just can’t image the tenet version doing that, do to its low riven disposition.
Incarnons kinda ruined warframe a bit .
digital extreme did, the only thing saving this game is the true endgame
fashionframe and collecting, everything else is trash
@@fran13r 😔
nah
DE's idea of balance is atrocious lmao
i honestly think they regret all the powerful weapons they introduced into the game, but its too late to back down
Games a clusterfuck of competing ideas. It sucks at times for sure.
I'm worried that adversary weapons are slowly falling in to the same fate as prime weapons. DE hasn't been putting much thought or care in to new prime weapons outside of appearance for a while now, and it appears that they are starting to do the same with new adversary weapons.
This man is not enthused at all about these weapons lol
why would you be?
@@Hejirah hell naw lmao 🤣
well yeah its jsut stat increases nothng else
Boring?!
Someone's been spoiled rotten with incarnons, I see!
Bro's fuming that these weapons one-shot enemies a bit less hard than Incarnons one shot enemies.
His content mostly revolves around endgame meta builds and weapons. If you compare these new weapons with the meta ones it really is indeed underwhelming.
@@godslayer4047so if it doesnt appeal to lardass mfs that stay like 4 hours in disruption sp it is trash, noted
"how does the tenet glaxion compare to the torid incarnon? its mediocre🤓☝️" maybe because the glaxion isnt an incarnon weapon lol its just a tenet weapon theyre two different tiers in terms of power
jesus, havent watched the video already and saw this comment, this kinda is a bad comparison that he made. Srsly different weapons for different people are preference use, not DEFINE what makes a weapon META. Anyways cant wait to try the sobek and glaxion a shot soon, nice variety to add in the collection and could be interested in the cold progenitor to mix up
ok so let me shed some light.
what other beam weapons that are primary that are beam weapons and are in the same category? amprex that's a regular weapon not "tenet" or "kuva", same with an ignis and both of those are old weapons and function differently.
It's a new weapon without any interesting mechanic and does nothing special, so what would you compare it to? you need to have a base line and a weapon that's has similar functionality.
and regardless of how you want to look at it, people will always want to compare things that function or look the same. 🤓☝
@@KnightmareFrameyou're literally comparing it to by far the best weapon in the game, no shit its gonna be bad in comparison
@KnightmareFrame I get that, but tbh I think incarnons are just in thier own league so I wouldn't compare them with anything but incarnons themselves. just my opinion though so no hate towards different views
Phantasma is pretty good eh?
Should have been the Amprex.
I liked glaxion
classic case of puts viral on every weapon calls it a day lol
Broooo chaining is soooo basic for a beam weapon, i was waiting something like primary gaze, or anything different from chaining, and i'm not talking on the Kuva Sobek, it's just better, no mechanic, the Drakgoon does ricochet at least.
Huh?? i just saw some dudes obliterating everything in the map using Mirage and Tenet Glaxion, even without the augments those 2 are behemoths
Lol... Mirage obliterate with any weapon
Even trash weapons with op frames can be turned op as well
Bro I obliterate anything in any content with mag and any weapon it doesn't mean the weapon is good. Mag can increase damage significantly and strip enemies. Even a mk1-furis with no incarnon will obliterate the enemy with certain Warframes lol
Use the sobek with saryn that goes crazy
Not the problem. Problem is Acid Shells not working properly.
If you need to use a specific frame/build to make a weapon work, then the weapon is meh at best.
@@viking1430 uh, no? Wtf are you talking about? This game is all about figuring out useful combinations between different pieces of your gear, and warframes are a part of said gear just like any other weapon or ability.
@@FerunaLutelouyes it is lol, u can kill level cap with the stug lol, does that make the stug a good weapon ? No ! Sigh, u people will never get this so I won't say anymore
@@johankaruyan5536they are dumb, just give up. They don't know what niche and meh is
lmao who woulda thought
Normally I don't like to compare creators like this, but it's weird coming to your video after just watching Leyzar's video on the Tenet Glaxion.
He compares it roughly on par with Incarnon weapons. I suspect its because he went Radiation on the Glaxion instead of Toxin.
I noticed knightmare frame put a lot more quality of life sort of mods on his rather than adding more elemental dmg. I think that's the difference. More elemental dmg mods to create both more base dmg and more statuses for aptitude.
@@ragingmonkey4592yup. IMO QoL improvements for your weapon are better to get from external sources so you can focus on damage
@@ragingmonkey4592 He has ONE QoL mod on his glaxion build (mag capacity) Tf are you smoking?
Lol at least use anz as example, but leyzar? He is like 99% of content creator of wf community, always display weapon power using wf that are used for weapon plataform builds, he makes dot builds and dont use factions mods, use rivens to make a weapon work(more rng, and one of worst ones in this game). To make this new guns works: 1. Fixed sobek aug (acid shells) bug. 2. Wait for element change rework and maybe glaxion will performe better. You know why he is disapointed? The same reason people are complaining in the comments we are tired of using incarnons, tenet and kuva weapons should perform as good as incarnons considering the time invesment we put to get them and resorces spent (aka. Plat). Thats why I dont even bother watching other creator since they only do is simp for DE. We deserve better.
Leyzars content is more focused on casuals and day to day gameplay
Knightmares content are focused more on endgame meta builds
So yes their opinions may vary
My cynical side tells me that acid shell's LoS issue is not a bug and more of a shadow nerf.
Its very clearly bugged. The fact its not working consistently in the simulacrum is proof. If it was consistent sure but its not.
"boring" weapons idk what this guy wants, a one shot weapon? YES VERY COOL AND FUN HAHA.
yes they are fun
right definitely not boring but its just better options that arent locked behind annoying liches
Dont know if these have incarnons but if they do try that?
Nope
they dont
also google the incarnons that DO actually exist
lmao I've been wondering where reload speed was hiding BRUHHHH.....