A Wild Franchise: A Pacific Rim Video Essay

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    00:00​ - Intro
    01:52 - Chapter 1: A Pan Pacific Alliance
    09:36 - Chapter 2: Drift Compatible
    21:09 - Chapter 3: Cancelling the Apocalypse
    38:39 - Chapter 4: Pacific Rim: Maelstrom
    46:21 - Chapter 5: The Designations Congruent With Things Tangent
    55:42 - Chapter 6: Uprising
    01:04:31 - Chapter 7: The Mako Mori problem
    01:11:28 - Chapter 8: This Is Our Time
    01:21:04 - Chapter 9: The Black
    01:24:56 - Chapter 10: What Now?
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  • @Sandreline
    @Sandreline Před 2 lety +469

    The hug at the end (instead of a kiss) is one of my favorite decisions in cinema history.

    • @svladcjelli4603
      @svladcjelli4603 Před rokem +15

      That moment stuck with me for so long. And then I heard Red from OSP fangirling over that moment as well. Was pretty funny.

    • @elderjose9662
      @elderjose9662 Před 11 měsíci +1

      nah

    • @toasterbunnie295
      @toasterbunnie295 Před 9 měsíci

      one of my favorite tropes

    • @juliantapia1407
      @juliantapia1407 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@elderjose9662just cuz you can't read tone doesn't mean that's anyone's problem but yours, since you feel the need to whine in every comment chain you can find

    • @elderjose9662
      @elderjose9662 Před 6 měsíci

      I call it ''interaction'' you hear about it?@@juliantapia1407

  • @steg8048
    @steg8048 Před 2 lety +749

    The little girl playing memory Mako is the best kid actor

    • @triquivijate
      @triquivijate Před 2 lety +56

      Heartbreaking scene. Even though I know it’s fiction and acting. It was so visceral, I was blubbing like a baby.

    • @katied1744
      @katied1744 Před 2 lety +81

      I love that Del Toro let her call him Del Totoro when she struggled with his name I'm 😭😭😭😭

    • @ruaoneill9050
      @ruaoneill9050 Před 2 lety +20

      She was so good it was genuinely scary. Like I wanted to call hild services to make sure they weren't torturing that kid because How could a TODDLER act tragedy so well?!?!

    • @magikarpg
      @magikarpg Před 2 lety +5

      I cry when she cries, it's so real

    • @Mizuki101Ikuto
      @Mizuki101Ikuto Před 2 lety +7

      yes!! she's an amazing actress, and if you want more of her heartbreaking acting, watch Mother (2010)

  • @ninereeds1810
    @ninereeds1810 Před 2 lety +527

    Me: ah yes. Idris Elba. From Cats (2019) and presumably some other movies.

    • @cb-wi1cq
      @cb-wi1cq Před 2 lety +6

      Seeing as I'm a horny jail warden by trade that is actually his most noteworthy performance in my book. For all the wrong reasons. He cant escape justice forever...

    • @bennygerow
      @bennygerow Před 2 lety

      OMG that moment she threw in there had me laugh too the point my wife gave me a look

    • @closetmonstar
      @closetmonstar Před 2 lety +3

      McCavity! (unnecessarily sexy puff of smoke)

    • @bethan013
      @bethan013 Před 2 lety

      I just want you to know, this is one of my favourite comments I’ve ever read on a CZcams video. Genuinely been giggling for a good 5 mins 👏👌

    • @stalfithrildi5366
      @stalfithrildi5366 Před 2 lety

      "You remember us back in the day man? You running round singing songs about being a cat, me also running round singing songs about being a cat"

  • @ShadaOfAllThings
    @ShadaOfAllThings Před 2 lety +595

    Funny thing about the "extra" comment from Herman: I've met a few mathematicians and literally all of them would have agreed with the "Numbers are as close as we get to the handwriting of god" comment

    • @enie6359
      @enie6359 Před 2 lety +27

      I'm not a mathematician but I'm a physicist and I agree

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Před 2 lety +12

      @@enie6359 physics is just applied mathematics

    • @enie6359
      @enie6359 Před 2 lety +3

      @@Gloomdrake haha kind of but not

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Před 2 lety +3

      @@enie6359 what's the word for I what did? Being reductive, or something?

    • @idrisa7909
      @idrisa7909 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah mathematicians are like that to an extreme

  • @dianarendon4037
    @dianarendon4037 Před 2 lety +236

    Me: oh, another Pacific Rim movie great
    *movie kills Mako*
    Me: there is no sequel, Mako and Raleigh are best buds retired and super happy

  • @HelloFutureMe
    @HelloFutureMe Před 2 lety +897

    Hell yeah I've been hyped for this

  • @minerva9104
    @minerva9104 Před 2 lety +639

    Name a more iconic duo than John Boyega and the most painfully gay characters possible that never get to actually be gay

    • @ruga-ventoj
      @ruga-ventoj Před 2 lety +8

      Adam West Batman and Robin?

    • @andreaszafiropoulos4667
      @andreaszafiropoulos4667 Před 2 lety +9

      Maverick and Ice Man

    • @Cheffamily
      @Cheffamily Před 2 lety +5

      After watching Naked Singularity, gdi this is spot on

    • @FischerFilmStudio
      @FischerFilmStudio Před 2 lety +5

      Why do people think Poe is gay? Y’all need help.

    • @ilikethoseodds.4066
      @ilikethoseodds.4066 Před rokem +3

      @@FischerFilmStudio Man I don't even know. They have a transgender pfp, they probably think every character is gay. /j

  • @cjthex
    @cjthex Před 2 lety +761

    the onslaught of gay at 56:20 is transcendant

  • @stobie8128
    @stobie8128 Před 2 lety +1090

    One thing I love so much about Pacific rim is it's not just America saving the whole world, but the world teaming up to tackle a threat bigger than them. Most blockbusters are so "Americanised" it's nice to see this film have abit of diversity.

    • @Glowwww334
      @Glowwww334 Před 2 lety +48

      My siblings and I have a running joke that aliens only attack the US💀

    • @cheetahluv210
      @cheetahluv210 Před 2 lety +27

      Well it was originally made by Guillermo del toro so it naturally has sensibilities beyond American

    • @JohnDoe-uf3lj
      @JohnDoe-uf3lj Před 2 lety +15

      As a good ol’ American 🇺🇸, I too like seeing group efforts like this. It makes it feel like the world is overcoming something together and raises the stakes. And seeing these stories from different perspectives helps shake up what is a pretty well worn trope.

    • @grandsome1
      @grandsome1 Před 2 lety +5

      *cough* Stargate SG-1 *cough*

    • @kyleerrington8004
      @kyleerrington8004 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah, I like that too.
      Even countries that are traditional “bad guys” in American movies like China or Russia, are given spots on the hero team and play a part in saving the world.
      It’s refreshing to have some good guy Chinese and Russian characters.

  • @samualwatkins
    @samualwatkins Před 2 lety +236

    The studios don’t deserve these films.

    • @Largentina.
      @Largentina. Před 2 lety +6

      True. But without these studios, this 200 million dollar movie wouldn't exist.

    • @ptahaha
      @ptahaha Před 8 měsíci

      @@Largentina. just post-kuhnian things

  • @lynncheng4094
    @lynncheng4094 Před 2 lety +277

    28:50 Also fun fact! Red is a symbol of good luck in Asian cultures, specifically in Chinese culture. (I know Mako is Japanese, but Japanese culture was once influenced by Chinese culture) Shoes are particularly seen as lucky when red. They’re meant to draw in good things and fortune. It’s tragic irony that her lucky shoes are so closely tied to the murder of her parents

  • @chaaro
    @chaaro Před 2 lety +696

    One thing not mentioned in this that I loved so much about this movie was how very obviously connected and intimate Mako and Raleigh are without it being overly sexual. Like, its obvious they like each other! but as someone on the ace spectrum to see in that final moment where there's no need for a kiss to know how much they love and care for one another really meant a lot to me! I just love so much that this series (at least the two movies I haven't watched the show) have more of an emphasis on love and connection without it needing to be overly romantic or sexual. I loved this video so much! but now need to go watch this movie again aha

    • @feuertatze
      @feuertatze Před 2 lety +31

      Yes, 100% agree! I even read Mako and Raleigh as purely platonic when I first watched the movie (relatively recently) and was a little taken aback when I opened the internet to find avalanches of shipping content for them. The hug at the end of the movie made me cry so much, because they mean so much to each other 🥺

    • @till5871
      @till5871 Před 2 lety +26

      Yeah that's hella dope. Not ace, but I'm a big gay, and really appreciate getting to see some male/female relationships that aren't getting depicted as exclusively romantic.

    • @Sandreline
      @Sandreline Před 2 lety +26

      Their relationship is built on a foundation of mutual respect, not attraction. That's not to say they aren't attracted to eachother, but that's literally the least important part of their relationship.
      Like I could easily see them having a sort of Black Widow/Hawkeye dynamic down the road.

    • @adamjaxn3156
      @adamjaxn3156 Před 2 lety +8

      I did get surrogate sibling vibes from them. Raleigh lost his brother and she lost her family to kaiju and their traumatic bond helped them seek closure.

    • @HotDogTimeMachine385
      @HotDogTimeMachine385 Před 2 lety +4

      Guillermo revealed in an interview that the hand-to-hand fight between Mako and Raleigh was literally filmed as a sex scene, an intimate physical experience between the two leads. And that's cool.
      Interviewer: That fight scene between the two of them may still qualify as the best sex scene to show up in any movie this summer, even if they are both fully clothed.
      Guillermo del Toro: That’s exactly how I shot it-like a sex scene. That scene was all about two people having an intimate connection after beating the crap out of each other. Basically, it’s the story of my life. And how I met my wife. [Laughs]
      www.timeout.com/los-angeles/film/time-out-with-pacific-rims-guillermo-del-toro

  • @ShadaOfAllThings
    @ShadaOfAllThings Před 2 lety +440

    Real Talk: Mako should be a cyborg in the third. Have her brain survive the mess, have it be that she's been kept alive in secret because someone suspected interference from the Precursors, have her be a bit of a Ghost in the Shell omage but still firmly her own thing, and have her be the most terrifying Jager pilot possible due to the machinery now supporting her brain, and most importantly have her be functionally immortal unless she has a nuke directly dropped on her.

    • @autumn_equinox
      @autumn_equinox Před 2 lety +10

      OhmyGODDDDD 😩🙌🏻 So much YESSSSS!! 🙌🏻😂😭 Pleeease, I neeeeed ittt!!!!

    • @thomaslavitola7789
      @thomaslavitola7789 Před 2 lety +7

      If 40k has teach me somenthing is that s nuke thrown directly on your face is no necesarily the end

    • @chaserred4155
      @chaserred4155 Před 2 lety +9

      Just make her pilot a Jaeger fleet from her mind. Or make her an AI copy to drift with the new protag.
      Cuz that sounds great.

    • @thomaslavitola7789
      @thomaslavitola7789 Před 2 lety +3

      @@chaserred4155 or the lord genos treatment

    • @fakegmale4648
      @fakegmale4648 Před 2 lety +1

      Maybe have her brain leave an “imprint” in either rowley or the ais brain and pull that and give it a robot body

  • @AdorableTheNerd
    @AdorableTheNerd Před 2 lety +1013

    as an actual everyday cane user (who is also jewish and neurodivergent lolol) i personally love herman and i think the actor is one of the few ppl who really properly incorporated the cane into his character's physicality and like. actually uses it properly and in a way i recognize in my own life. i guess i mind an abled actor playing him a lot less since there was so much obvious effort and care in his portrayal. herman makes me feel seen in a way i haven't experienced with other characters.

    • @feraltender
      @feraltender Před 2 lety +133

      literally this, everyday cane user here too and just watching him walk with it and use it to pull things around and tap his chalkboard i just scream 'yessss' because i do that! i use my cane to turn on my computer when i need it to warm up, i use it to point at stuff, his gait with it is incredibly familiar and it isn't so much as Acknowledged, it's just... there! whether the role could have been played better by a disabled actor is subjective, we'll never know, but i learned to love my own cane through watching hermann and i definitely feel seen by his portrayal :')

    • @lexnight
      @lexnight Před 2 lety +58

      @@feraltender Yessss, at least it was being used realistically. At the grocery store and the item is on a shelf that's too high? Time to use the cane! Or the items are too far back to reach? Up goeth the cane! Hell, I'm constantly gesturing and gesticulating with it. Leaning against a wall and I don't need it for stability? Time to spin it around like a batton or swing it back and forth. Crabby? The cane stomps. Sitting and bored? Tossing it back and forth from hand to hand. Elevator button? Hitting it with the cane. Handicapped door button? Cane. Pushing open doors, pulling open doors, depressing and pulling that one type of door knob... emotionally upset, not as precise. Mood leaks into the usage of the cane as much as any other part of me. It's also gonna get used when I communicate. And for the most part, if there's something the cane can accomplish that I can't (or that the cane would be faster at, etc) it's just gonna get used without really thinking about it.
      If you're using it long term, it's just an extension of you. I mean, okay, some folks probably aren't as figity as I am, but like. The brain doesn't go: ah yes, this thing in my hand every day has but one task and one task only, executed in precisely the same way every time no matter the mood.
      You see too many actors playing characters who are supposed to be long-term cane users, and it's like a dead appendage in their hands. Which always strike me as weird, because if nothing else acting is theoretically expressive.
      Idk, I'm fine with actors that don't need canes playing characters that do, just like breath some life into the poor thing. There's some ableist tropes they could stop feeding, but like. Outside of those roles? Nah, just actually use the damn thing. It's not a skittish cobra, it's not gonna bite you if you get too active with it, and it's not some delicate sacred relic that will break or scandalise the audience if used for more than just walking.
      While this is more on the writers, come on: we're walking around pre-armed with a melee weapon; it's got multiple potential grips and ways to swing it, it's often made out of metal these days, one end has a "handy" bludgeon to strike with, and they often have a helpful little wrist strap so disarming one of us can be that little bit more difficult. (Hell, my father had a cane that, while the body was wood, had a heave brass duck's head as the handle with a nice pointy beak and a pretty sharp brass "foot" as well. It wasn't exactly a "soft" or "brittle" wood either.
      If you have a cane using character cowering from some monster, presented as helpless because they can't run as well as the abled characters all while they're holding a cane in one hand: Writer, thou hath failed at canes! Please, come on, get visceral with that thing! Show the me some nice hard swings and strikes with it, show me that raptor, slasher villain, alien, eldritch abomination or fully human villain getting absolutely clobbered upside the head!

    • @Ladyknightthebrave
      @Ladyknightthebrave  Před 2 lety +72

      I'm guessing you love Kaz Brekker from Six of Crows/Shadow and Bone then? ^_^

    • @AdorableTheNerd
      @AdorableTheNerd Před 2 lety +64

      @@Ladyknightthebrave ahaha YES!! the author also is a cane user and so i really love how well it's incorporated into his pov!! love the little gremlin boy...... as if i didn't want a raven-headed cane badly enough BEFORE i read the books........

    • @AdorableTheNerd
      @AdorableTheNerd Před 2 lety +7

      @@feraltender exactly!!!! i'm so glad im not the only one 🥰 and high five from a fellow ~~wizard staff-~~ i mean cane-user 💜💜

  • @trentvalentine9
    @trentvalentine9 Před 2 lety +242

    Why is Guillermo hating cows so upsetting to me 😭

    • @Molly-ml1wn
      @Molly-ml1wn Před 2 lety +31

      Because GDT loves monsters.
      He is someone so full of earnest adoration for the worst "others" across cultures, to learn that his love is humanly conditional and to see him look down on a creature and call it perverse and ugly, hurts.
      It distorts the image of a person you put on a pedestal and lowers them to our level, to human.
      That said, I wouldn't dwell on it too much. Let your heroes be human and give them permission to have bad experiences with animals.
      _Edit: Autocorrect thought I was more likely discussing international finance than filmmakers. Autocorrect does not know me very well_

    • @ruaoneill9050
      @ruaoneill9050 Před 2 lety +1

      Same. 🤣🤣🤣

    • @hillaryheath220
      @hillaryheath220 Před 2 lety +2

      I’m more upset about him not liking horses .... like really?!

    • @rjhaney2614
      @rjhaney2614 Před 2 lety +1

      There’s a yo mama joke in here somewhere…

    • @dandywaysofliving
      @dandywaysofliving Před 7 měsíci

      ​@@Molly-ml1wnI like dogs I've been attacked for no reason by dogs many times(not too many but more than 10) that I kinda don't like dogs in general now.
      I don't hate em cause of a few individuals bad actions but I do have an
      Ehh
      Against em now
      .
      I learned that animals regardless of race could give 0 fucks about u and make u dislike em even though I've been genuine and kind around em
      .
      So maybe he was tramatized in the past enough to say "eww no sorry no"
      .
      I don't hold it against him but I get why he rather avoid em.
      .
      Hell u don't give a women hell after shes been raped by a man and says she doesn't like men but can be around em but rather avoid the perverae wild beast.
      .
      Obviously time changes all but understand maybe cause someone isn't willing to be 1000 percent pc for others cause they know the real dangers
      .
      It's not big but yeah omg cows should be loved
      but
      .
      LASAGNA!!!!

  • @Spookybluelights
    @Spookybluelights Před 2 lety +274

    The frustration I have at Uprising giving those kids RANGER suits and it never occurred to them to you know, make them different colors to help differentiate them. Like a certain other tokusatstu property that refer to themselves as RANGERS and are known for wearing various colored suits. Such a missed opportunity at a very pointed reference left over from the first movie.

    • @foodismyfriend25
      @foodismyfriend25 Před 2 lety +22

      It would've been so cool to add in, like, a couple shots of them spray painting their basic ranger suits to match their jaegers in the middle of rebuilding them from scrap

    • @pyrosfolly5698
      @pyrosfolly5698 Před 2 lety +1

      Sentai. They're called Sentai.
      Rangers is a Saban thing.

    • @dinotaroc456
      @dinotaroc456 Před 2 lety

      @@pyrosfolly5698 what?

    • @pyrosfolly5698
      @pyrosfolly5698 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dinotaroc456 Power Rangers is based on a Japanese show called Super Sentai

    • @pyrosfolly5698
      @pyrosfolly5698 Před 2 lety

      @@dinotaroc456 well, the overall series is that. Each show has its own title

  • @blinkDanna
    @blinkDanna Před 2 lety +302

    I got halfway through this video, decided to wake my kid (11) up to watch Pacific Rim (11:30pm). ‘Wanna watch a monster movie about friendship’ ‘Fuck yes’. Mako walked on screen and she goes ‘Yeeeessss’. I think I’m doing ok as a parent.

    • @michelviramontes2796
      @michelviramontes2796 Před rokem +12

      That right there is going to become an amazing core memory for your kid

  • @CaptainPikeachu
    @CaptainPikeachu Před 2 lety +520

    Was I supposed to know that James Cameron gave GDT one million dollars to get his father back or was I supposed to just find it out on a brilliant Pacific Rim video essay by Ladyknightthebrave?????
    Also, I desperately wanted Jake and Nate to kiss.

    • @carleeelizabeth
      @carleeelizabeth Před 2 lety +4

      I KNOW, RIGHT?!

    • @ruaoneill9050
      @ruaoneill9050 Před 2 lety +1

      The only way I learn anuthing is through amazing vid essayists like @ladyknightthebrave

    • @thirdcoinedge
      @thirdcoinedge Před měsícem

      I learned about it from browsing his Wikipedia page.

  • @Cheskaz
    @Cheskaz Před 2 lety +207

    If you ever feel like having merch; I want "It's Tuesday don't worry about it" on everything

  • @Sandreline
    @Sandreline Před 2 lety +316

    Uprising lacked the self-confidence that the original movie had, so it was constantly undermining its own sincerity with jokey-jokes.
    Plot and pacing and cinematography and everything else aside, the confidence to be sincere is what made the first movie resonate with people.

    • @inkasaraswati7625
      @inkasaraswati7625 Před 2 lety +30

      This 100%. Uprising was a good fun movie in isolation, but it definitely doesn't have the sincerity and attention to detail that makes me love Pacific Rim. Also I hated so much how they made the Jaegers look like toys instead of fifty tonnes of steel.

    • @eveecco
      @eveecco Před 2 lety +10

      The athstetic is so different too, it's so bright but militarized at the same time that I feels like it came from a whole different franchise. The first film had Del Toro's love of color oozing from it while with Uprising it's so much more sterile. Idk I wish there had at least been an attempt to carry over Del Toro's love of color into Uprising, also that Pacific Rim wasn't at all a militaristic film.

    • @princessjello
      @princessjello Před rokem

      Earnestness is always appreciated

    • @rexex345
      @rexex345 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@inkasaraswati7625 you know what the toys thing really made me annoyed cause it kind of very much broke under context. In the first movie we're told people made toys out of Jaeger designs, by the same logic the Jaegers themselves should never look like toys cause they're weapons, you don't start making a gun based on nerf cause that risks so much design problems

  • @jonalen4217
    @jonalen4217 Před 2 lety +90

    "A dinner date; between colleagues!" had me in stitches :D

  • @Gibbons3457
    @Gibbons3457 Před 2 lety +209

    As someone with ASD the thing that got me about the original pacific rim that none of the rest of it (that I have seen) behind all the cool designs and action was the let's call it logic, behind the first film.
    I remember just after the film came out and some uni friends and I were bantering about it and one said "why not just booby trap the breach" and another said "why not just pummel it with guns from far away before it got to land" and it started to click that the film had already gone into why that was never a solution. The kaiju learn and adapt that's the whole point of the hive mind, what one kaiju dies fighting the next is ready for. Every defense we have only works until the kaiju find its weakness. And that logic runs through the entire film.
    The original kaiju come equipped with tools to deal with typical earth weapons. They are big, armored and their blood is a bio-hazard. You can't just shoot them to death. So as silly a premise as Jaegers are, they make lots of sense in context. What's better is that until the end of the end of the prologue they jaegers are perfectly designed to confuse and confound the kaiju.
    The last line of the intro is "everything changed". Then we get the fight against Knifehead, the pilots go out expecting a typical fight, but knifehead fight's smart, really smart, it fakes its own death halfway through the fight but more importantly it learns two things. 1. It's first attacks are aimed at the jaeger's chest and torso, the or mortal wounds to any living creature and I'm sure the kaiju have done this many times before, but then, after its shot by a plasma cannon it hides. It's next attack is two fold, it needs that plasma cannon gone and so it goes after the arm. which it destroys but then it goes for the head. This is crucial, every jaeger seen destroyed, all of them, have had their heads damaged in some catastrophic way. No kaiju destroys a jaeger in the film without getting the head. That is what changed. After Knifehead the jaegers start losing and its because knifehead learned that the head is the weak spot and suddenly all the advantages of the jaeger are gone. Up until that point the kaiju were losing, from then on, it's a slaughter.
    That brings us to the bulk of the film. The kaiju wall is seen to be ineffective, and given our premise, of course it is. The moment the kaiju first encounter it they get its baring and the next kaiju comes equipped to go right through it, in less than an hour. The wall is a static unchanging thing, it is hopeless against the adaptable and custom made kaiju. I'll get back to this.
    For now let me just cover the next part of this logic. The last four jaegers, but specifically the other three. Crimson Typhoon, Cherno Alpha and Striker Eureka. Why these three? Because they all subvert the typical jaeger, they can all protect their heads. Cherno has a head that isn't where it should be, it's in the middle of the chest and heavily armoured, it even has a fake head atop it's shoulders, any kaiju aiming for it's head will miss the pilots and attack an armored tower with a light atop it, leaving it vulnerable to cherno's brutal pummeling assault. Typhoon is another anomaly; it has three pilots and three arms, it's also shown to be extremely mobile, not swift like Striker but flexible, able to do some extreme maneuvers. With three brains and three arms it's weird enough that the kaiju cannot effectively fight it solo. Striker, a kaiju killing machine, not only is it the most modern jaeger, it's fast, mobile, and is equipped with state of the art long range weapons that end fights fast. Danger is the last one, but she's a curveball and to explain that we have to get to...
    Newt drifts with a kaiju, and the connection goes both ways. Sure he learns all about the kaiju but they learn everything he knows, and suddenly two kaiju turn up with weapons and knowledge of the three active jaegers (gypsy is benched for all newt knows). So let's talk about Otachi and Leatherback the two best design kaiju in the film. Combined this deadly duo were going to win no matter what the three jaeger's did, and really, those three jaegers were doomed. Otachi, the swiss army knife: she has acid for cherno and the tail of a jaeger assassin, perfectly designed to grab and crush jaeger heads. Leatherback brawn with brains. Equipped with an EMP to take out any jaeger newer than a Mark III (Striker and Typhoon) and with the muscle to rip a slow jaeger like Cherno to bits. There is no combination of those three jaegers that can handle these to kaiju. No matter who goes to bad first they are doomed, as we see in the film. But those two kaiju are even more brilliant than just that, they also come with wall nullifying abilities just in case, see Mutivore, (the kaiju that attacks Sydney on TV) learnt all about the wall, so the next two kaiju come with ways of getting over it in minutes if not seconds. Leatherback is built like a Gorrila, and is seen to be creative and dexterous (it's the only kaiju to ever use tools) it can simply climb over the wall and Otachi, that girl has wings, she can just fly over it.
    So what about Danger. She was rebuilt by Macho. Firstly the kaiju thought she was dead, gone a none issue. Leatherback is surprised when she turns up. Second she's been upgraded with new tech and new weapons. That's why she handles Leatherback and Otachi so well, they weren't designed to fight her, they have to fight fair again. And coupled with the pilots skill and adaptability none of their gimmicks work. The EMP is disabled, the acid gets dodged, the tail frozen and smashed. Only teh wings pose a threat but then the sword completely blindsides Otachi. Danger was the right jaeger at the right time.
    The final fight is similar. The next two jaiju aren't attackers this time, they are defenders and they are ready to take on the last to jaegers. No secrets this time, they are ready. Scunner is big and hard to kill, seriously it takes a nuke to take out this guy. His job is to slow down the jaegers. Raiju is fast, a sniper, it's job is to take out gypsy by being too fast to deal with. They're job though is to hold their ground till the big guns, Slattern, arrive. Slattern's job is to stop Striker. We see again, the kaiju using their knowledge of the jaegers again. Raiju and Scunner tag team Danger, even using the jaegers own tactics against them. Raiju snipes danger's sword (the one they know of) but the second sword catches it off guard, again a secret kept from the Kaiju is what kills them, they didn't know about the second sword. Slattern too uses gained knowledge, it's first attack specifically takes out striker's chest cannons and disables the nuke. Slattern's tactics even force striker to detonate the nuke, when it adapted to striker's near fatal assault. It's Raleigh unpredictability and Stacker's strategic forethought that win in the end. I genuinely believe the Kaiju didn't believe that a crippled Danger would decide to jump Slattern and ride it into the breach.
    It's what keeps bringing me back to this movie. That logic, that depth, you can see it over and over throughout the film. It truly shows how much effort was put into that movie, despite it being on the surface a cheese monster flick.
    I'm just a bit of a fan.

    • @maseoembry4165
      @maseoembry4165 Před 2 lety +17

      It’s the Del Toro’s and crew’s attention to detail that I always appreciate. I love it

    • @storm4710
      @storm4710 Před 2 lety +17

      And sadly all of those things get thrown overboard in uprising

    • @Lonewolf360gaming
      @Lonewolf360gaming Před 2 lety +3

      @@storm4710 lmao the Kaiju literally didn't need to use strategy all they had to do is Brute force it.

    • @storm4710
      @storm4710 Před 2 lety +17

      ​@@Lonewolf360gaming How would they brute force it?
      Brute force was how the Kaiju's were losing.
      Knifehead changed the game

    • @N0noy1989
      @N0noy1989 Před 2 lety +1

      @@storm4710 the thing though is that it was already said in the movie that more and more will come and they will get stronger and stronger. The math guy even have an equation for it and we all saw they got tons of Kaijus in breeding pods in the other dimension. Soooo.... let's say all Kaijus continue losing. Then just wait until the portal widens enough to allow crap tons of Kaiju to go through. What was the last one they fought? 2 Category 4 and 1 category 5?
      And it's exponential growth. So if the portal spits out two dozen category 8 or some shit what will humanity do?
      Hence brute force.
      If that portal is not closed we will lose no matter what we do. The Kaijus coming out of it were just tiny babies compared to what the beings on the otther side could unleash if the portal allowed it.
      OPs theory is good and all but the movie imposed that "time bomb" with the kaijus getting stronger and more numerous each time the portal opens so....there's no need for logic and strategy on the side of those aliens or whatever they are if that's the case.

  • @stovetopweevil
    @stovetopweevil Před 2 lety +47

    IMHO, John Boyega's total commitment to *whatever* was happening in his scenes, reaching back to his "Attack the Block" character, carried this movie.

  • @patterbay
    @patterbay Před 2 lety +118

    It's me. I was the weird friend who watched Pacific Rim more than 120 times in a year.
    I'm so hyped for whatever you have to say about this

  • @LadyBravefalcon
    @LadyBravefalcon Před 2 lety +68

    Cherno Alpha was the peak of Jaeger design, and I will die on this hill.

    • @miss_elaineous_
      @miss_elaineous_ Před 2 lety +8

      There is nothing better or more beautiful than Cherno Alpha.

    • @broomy1610
      @broomy1610 Před 2 lety +8

      Cherno Alpha is love, Cherno Alpha is life

    • @HORIZONNNN
      @HORIZONNNN Před 2 lety +5

      NO YOU RIGHT AND YOU SHOULD SAY IT 🤩🤩🤩

    • @chheinrich8486
      @chheinrich8486 Před 7 měsíci +1

      In think the the peak of Jäger (and yes thats how we germans write this word) desig is tacit ronin seen 7n the movie only in the prolouge a japanese Jäger, white with big sword on its arms and the lost Pointen head of any Jäger

  • @cjboiss5779
    @cjboiss5779 Před 2 lety +170

    One of the biggest things that makes Uprising difficult for me to watch is that the spectacle of watching skyscraper-sized robots and monsters duke it out is... off.
    del Toro understood that things as big as a Jaeger or Kaiju don't dance around like a six-foot martial artist, and the camera angles we get in Pacific Rim are as if we're seeing these fights happen from helicopters, or the ground level. Their movements and actions have weight, and feel purposeful. It does a lot to keep us immersed in the moment, even when we're watching something so completely ridiculous.
    It's difficult to get over that most of the action sequences in Uprising *feel* wrong, like an Uncanny Valley of giant monster fights, when those sequences are half the movie. And when they did Mako so dirty, and hand us a replacement cast so large that I can't remember half their names or faces (let alone get attached to them), I don't have a reason to look past it.

    • @charlenetweaver2557
      @charlenetweaver2557 Před 10 měsíci +2

      That’s Exactly what I was thinking, like it could easily be a regular sized robots and monsters

  • @LadyJenevia
    @LadyJenevia Před 2 lety +495

    The aggressively romantic tension between Mako and Raleigh is EVERYTHING and without that, there was and is no reason for me to ever watch the sequel since the removal/sidelining of them means the most magical part of why I love the first film is gone.
    Thank you for including me in this giant Pacific Rim project. Guillermo Del Toro is extremely underrated by the industry and I'm so glad you put in an entire section hyping him up. I'm commenting as I'm still watching this but I'm sure I will love everything left for me to watch. 🌸✨

    • @Ladyknightthebrave
      @Ladyknightthebrave  Před 2 lety +49

      Thank you for talking to me about Mako.
      (Also low key I might look up that K-drama Vincenzo after listening to you and the writer from Shadow and Bone hyping it up so much)

    • @LadyJenevia
      @LadyJenevia Před 2 lety +17

      @@Ladyknightthebrave She's going to be coming back to do more in-depth spoiler discussions about it with me so I would highly recommend it! 😍🔥

    • @Riggswolfe
      @Riggswolfe Před 2 lety +7

      I agree 100%. It's the main reason I intensely disliked the sequel along with other stuff I won't talk about because it's spoilery. It's like..Halo without Master Chief and Cortana together. What's the point?

    • @teruhiiko
      @teruhiiko Před 2 lety +2

      Hard agree!

    • @GrainneMhaol
      @GrainneMhaol Před 2 lety +28

      Mako's storyline was one of the main draws of the original for me, as is how aggressively Raleigh is on her team. It's rare to see a male protagonist advocating for his female lead in a way that isn't overtly sexual. Also, the fact that he so clearly adores her. I love them. I haven't seen the sequel for all of the reasons stated in the video. It shafts the fans of Mako so badly.

  • @ActingNT
    @ActingNT Před 2 lety +87

    1:07:50 Also even in joke form, the Bechdel test wasn't intended as a movie feminism test. It is a lesbian character in a comic with lesbian in the title created by a lesbian artist, complaining about the lack of characters that could be interpreted as (let alone explicitly portrayed as) lesbians

    • @thirdcoinedge
      @thirdcoinedge Před měsícem

      Oh. That actually makes a lot of sense.

  • @ughhseriouslywowdamn
    @ughhseriouslywowdamn Před 2 lety +67

    My the biggest issue with Mako's death for me was just how completely random it was. She was *LITERALLY* just in the wrong place at the wrong time, and that place was just... a few cubic meters midair between some buildings. Nearly every other character death in the entire franchise is some form of heroic sacrifice. They either walked into those situations not even expecting to survive because they were willing to make that sacrifice, or the lethality of the situation was unexpected but they were still killed fighting in the line of (an inherently heroic) duty.
    I can get on board with the concept of the new big threat immediately and senselessly killing someone who matters to the other characters (and to us by extension), because it efficiently eliminates any ambiguity surrounding the legitimacy/severity of the threat and sets up the emotional stakes tied up in the fight against it. However, the first film did such a wonderful job impactfully handling the deaths of both Raleigh's brother and Mako's parents despite their minimal direct presence in the story that I can't see how it would've been necessary to use ANY existing main character to accomplish this narrative goal, let alone Mako, especially considering the outright admission that an entirely different character could've just as easily been on that helicopter. If it was absolutely Mako who had to die for external reasons, then she should not have gone down without a fight or without making any personal sacrifice. If they absolutely needed her gone from the film before the exact threat was known, and she absolutely could not go down swinging from inside a Jaeger, then she could've and should've been killed via *intentional* AND *necessary* risk to her personal safety via known close proximity to either ostensibly *mild* but virtually *guaranteed* danger of a *mis*identified nature or definitely *severe* but merely *potential* danger of an *un*identified danger. As long as it's not a situation confidentially perceived as well understood and basically safe... like riding in a helicopter.
    If I were writing it with these constraints, I'd have Mako employ her truly unique combination of professional expertise and lived experience to personally investigate some strange and suspicious rift/kaiju activity in the field in order to find the evidence of an ongoing, significant, urgent threat necessary to justify the continued funding of the entire piloted Jaeger project, which would be entirely shut down if the mission were not successful in finding said evidence. And while this would still put her in the wrong place at the wrong time, it would be doing so for a very specific purpose with very high stakes. And this is more of a bonus than a goal, but I'd argue that this makes her death no less senselessly tragic since the full scale & form of the threat was not yet known by anyone at the time. Nobody would think of her excursion as a suicide mission, as most of the characters would probably expect her to find nothing much of anything at all. This implicates the new drone Jaeger project in her death in an additional way (as that would be the source of the intial funding conflict), and it would emotionally wreck and therefore motivate Jake in an additional way (as Mako will have died because of an attitude towards the project he'd explicitly endorsed and perpetuated). This doesn't undermine or replace existing plot points and character developments, it reinforces them. And most importantly, her final mission would be entirely successful in its aims directly *because* the threat she went looking for evidence of was unexpectedly lethal, meaning all heroic actions by every single Jaeger pilot and engineer taken throughout the entire rest of the film can be in attributed, in part, to her heroic sacrifice.
    I mean I'd prefer not to write it with these constraints and just let Mako live, but at least this is a way to kill her without shoving her into a refrigerator.

    • @conorgray511
      @conorgray511 Před rokem

      Whilst I think a lot of what you said is correct and I agree, the plot explains why she wasn’t just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
      Mako explicitly states she’s against the Drone Jaeger program, and had plans to veto its deployment on full scale - this would absolutely go against Newt’s plans as an agent of the Precursors. Obsidian Fury was specifically deployed to the city on that day to kill her before she could veto the deployment of the Drones. She had to die for the plot, as annoying as I find her death.

  • @JamesVermont
    @JamesVermont Před 2 lety +35

    "You are gaining logic but losing grammar" might have just become one of my favourite things a director's has ever said. I feel like this should be the standard, copy paste response to any Cinema Sins style of "critique."
    Also, I use a walking stick pretty often (the result of a balance disorder) and I actually quite like how the actor handled the performance here. It's significantly better than other awful uses of walking stick I've seen (Matt Smith in "Time of the Doctor" did such a bad job with it) but naturally it's annoying to see abled actors cast in disabled roles.

  • @dissonanceparadiddle
    @dissonanceparadiddle Před 2 lety +108

    My big problem with the second movie is that the new jeagers don't move in a way that looks physically believable. Scrapers fine she's smol. But jeagers shouldn't be able to be quick unless they figured out some crazy inertial tech. I mean ok that's more a nitpick. I really really REALLY!!! hope we get a third movie that does what it needs to

    • @danielramsey6141
      @danielramsey6141 Před 2 lety +10

      I can't stress enough Much I AGREE with you on this part! They Move Way Too Fast or too fluidly!

    • @vysharra
      @vysharra Před 2 lety +15

      The ‘camera’ is a big part of that problem. In the first movie, the viewer stays ‘grounded’ by almost exclusively witnessing the fights at the level that humans on the ground or up in a helicopter could experience (which harkens back to IRL disaster news coverage). In the next movie, the viewer is being bounced around and floating up in the air like the view point of a gamer playing Rocket League. So not only do the robots have no weight (air resistance was a real, if lessened, force in the first movie but has no presence in the second… a lot like gravity) the viewer has no relation to reality either.
      I think PR2 was fine stand-alone but as a sequel was a failure. Pacific Rim 2 was seemingly a whole new genre and would have been a whole new universe if not for the cameos.

    • @sentientmustache8360
      @sentientmustache8360 Před 8 měsíci

      My pitch for an ultra-lightweight speedy jaeger like the ones this movie tries to use, is to:
      -Make it smaller than the other ones, not too much, but noticeably so
      -Remember Gipsy’s elbow rockets? Yeah, those, but more, you know how spaceships have tiny thrusters all over them to help them maneuver? Like those.
      -Make it a glass canon, where it’s incredibly fast and agile, but if it takes a few hits, it’s out for the count
      -Make it look very slim and aerodynamic, with flaps and fins all over
      -And for last, make it slightly slower and weightier than the ones in uprising

  • @lynnielouwhothebomb
    @lynnielouwhothebomb Před 2 lety +130

    Humble petition for you to do an essay on Jupiter Ascending. That… that is all. 💖

    • @Ladyknightthebrave
      @Ladyknightthebrave  Před 2 lety +31

      Honestly just go read this review It's the best review anybody has ever written about Jupiter ascending It's better than anything I could ever say about it sashayed.tumblr.com/post/110444647320/heres-the-thing-about-jupiter-ascending

    • @lynnielouwhothebomb
      @lynnielouwhothebomb Před 2 lety +14

      @@Ladyknightthebrave oh my goodness, that was probably the most beautiful thing I’ve ever read. Thank you for sending me to it 🥺 (to be completely honest, I am a greedy B who would ALSO still love to see your tribute to the film, but zero pressure and all the support).

    • @stephaniezapiain9742
      @stephaniezapiain9742 Před 2 lety +6

      @@Ladyknightthebrave i understand if you feel that way but JA needs all the love it can get from people. The fandom is little but eager for content and your videos are the best

    • @IngridCNixe
      @IngridCNixe Před 2 lety +1

      Pleaseeeeee talk about JP 🥺🥺🥺

    • @knightmare5097
      @knightmare5097 Před 2 lety

      @@Ladyknightthebrave In my opinion, the critic seems to care more about the testosterone than the actual movie

  • @Zippish
    @Zippish Před 2 lety +118

    "Not just eye -candy, but eye-protein :D" GOD I LOVE THIS MAN. Also I got to the recap part of the video and had to stop because I really just wanna go watch the movie again for the umpteenth time, so BRB !

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez9216 Před 2 lety +210

    I'm going to say this about John Boyega: he's very talented, they're doing Attack The Block 2, yay Moses is coming back!

  • @mikedrop4421
    @mikedrop4421 Před 2 lety +74

    The first movie was better than it had any right to be. I was convinced that it was obviously a cheezy transformers/godzilla vs Kong rip off and while that can be argued to be fact it's so much more than that. It's charming and feels self aware.

  • @DoraG99
    @DoraG99 Před 2 lety +61

    I've never seen the sequel but not I'm quietly fuming lol. My favourite part of the first film was Mako, and how respected her culture was, especially by her adoptive father, Pentecost, who always gave her a little bow every time he saw her ❤️ like that isn't something you see a lot in movies with mixed casts and it was NICE

    • @Christine-sn9mr
      @Christine-sn9mr Před 2 lety +4

      Please don't watch the sequel. I wish I didn't.

    • @YukaAkemi
      @YukaAkemi Před 8 měsíci

      I have a passionate love for the first movie, I do not rec the second movie, after watching it I just wanted to rewatch the first again and forget I ever watched the 2nd

    • @dandywaysofliving
      @dandywaysofliving Před 7 měsíci

      I bow to everyone and sometimes I'm a bit embarrassed after I bow, to some "oriental " reflexively
      At the end I rise up embarrassed but I move on
      .
      I also do this 🙌👏 a lot
      And I realized this is in a way universally human
      n-n
      bd
      .
      It makes people smile
      But I see that orientals, indians, and christians wonder if I'm praying or being "correct" not acknowledging even though I'm Hispanic maybe I hold uncommon beliefs
      .
      It was. Funny and kinda sad but it happened a few times.
      The bowing is cute tbh but irl ppl get confused where to place u compared if u just fit the "norm" or what they expect from u
      .
      So keep em guessing fam😊

  • @marsfeathers
    @marsfeathers Před 2 lety +36

    I have ADHD and I haven't taken my meds yet today, and it really puts into perspective how much I adore pacific rim that I'm just sitting here watching this entire video uninterrupted without even realizing. Like holy shit

  • @afairyonacid
    @afairyonacid Před 2 lety +72

    I love how you always distill the purest love for the media you analyze, it's contagious.
    Also I used to be obsessed how Mako/Raleigh had such an intense and palpable chemistry yet it wasn't sexualized which was rare at the time. And with the Kaidonovskys and Cherno Alpha.

  • @jetstreamjackie3437
    @jetstreamjackie3437 Před 2 lety +303

    That line about executives only caring about money and not art really sticks out to me. It's a clip I'm going to come back to for a while I think, bc it just summarizes my thoughts about art under capitalism so well. So many beloved and heartfelt projects are thrown out due to this shitty greed, and so many lives are ruined for no reason other than to line the pockets of billionaires. Capitalism sucks so goddamned much.

    • @mophead_xu
      @mophead_xu Před 2 lety +4

      i love how the trans flag border works so well with you pfp lol.

    • @knightmare5097
      @knightmare5097 Před 2 lety +1

      Better than communism I guess

    • @doperagu8471
      @doperagu8471 Před rokem

      @@knightmare5097 and that line of thinking is why we can't have nice things

    • @knightmare5097
      @knightmare5097 Před rokem

      @@doperagu8471 Name one country where communism didn’t just become another dictatorship

    • @doperagu8471
      @doperagu8471 Před rokem

      @@knightmare5097 my comment didn't say that I necessarily prefer communism. You do know there are more options out there than just capitalism or communism, right? I meant that the thought process of "well at least it's better than x, y, or z" is why we will never be able to move away from capitalism and have a society that functions better for everyone, especially the working class.
      If your first argument FOR capitalism is "well at least it's NOT communism," it's much easier to just become complacent and "accept" that we can't do better than the current system. (Which is of course not true, as evidenced by the numerous countries with economic systems that work far better for everyone, but especially for the working class)

  • @MrJ1GS4W
    @MrJ1GS4W Před 2 lety +39

    I just adore how much respect and admiration you showed towards Guillermo del Toro. He’s not only a fellow countryman of mine but also one of my favorite directors. Lovely video.

  • @hannabelphaege3774
    @hannabelphaege3774 Před 2 lety +29

    Wow, it's been so long since I've seen John Boyega using his real voice and hotdamn that took me off guard

  • @GrandArchPriestOfTheAlgorithm

    As a priest in the Church of the Algorithm, I bless this video with a comment.

  • @KitOfTheWeirdWoods
    @KitOfTheWeirdWoods Před 2 lety +66

    The bit at the end of Pacific Rim where everyone is cheering but Chuck's dog Max is barking makes me absolutely sob every time.
    Also, I have chosen to believe that Mako was working on some kind of miniaturized Jaeger that is functionally an Iron Man suit, that she used to survive.

  • @watermis
    @watermis Před 2 lety +38

    also important thing to mention that the joke the bechdel test is based on was commentary on how alienating media is for lesbians

  • @Christine-sn9mr
    @Christine-sn9mr Před 2 lety +27

    Pacific Rim: beautiful movie with a story to tell. Amazing cinematography. Character with personality and story. Setting that is so detailed i want to go and be a tourist. Monster I want to study. [Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah insert more love here ]
    Pacific Rim Uprising: toys???

  • @msbrycebortree
    @msbrycebortree Před 2 lety +50

    My guess: Mako would probably come back in the drift if Raleigh came back.
    If you're right and it was just a scheduling issue for the actor, then he might be able to use her in memories or as an angel/devil on the shoulder/advisor.
    Could be very sad and longing, so fingers crossed.
    EDIT: Wait wait wait: They use drift technology to pull Mako from Raleigh's memory and into a bot or mecha. Boom, PacRim3 feat Mako Mori.

    • @Aeovana
      @Aeovana Před 2 lety +1

      YAASS! Love that! Mako watching Raleigh's back from beyond the grave and them saving the world together AGAIN😭
      My headcanon (which I yoinked from 3 different fanfics) is that she survives the crash in Uprising and having given Jake everything they need to fight the aliens, faked her death and used her contacts like Hannibal to escape to her and Raleigh's home in Alaska, live to fight another day and stuff

  • @gideongrace1977
    @gideongrace1977 Před 2 lety +23

    Also, I LOVE that you mention fanfiction in a truly loving, positive way. Fanfiction is so inmportant to me and it gets so much shit. Still. Even now. When so much of it is actively brilliant.

  • @cameroncasimir7069
    @cameroncasimir7069 Před 2 lety +226

    *I'm gonna be honest, Lady Danger is a really cool alternative name.*

    • @neenabelle1342
      @neenabelle1342 Před 2 lety +11

      Fr, tbh in my opinion it’s so much better than the slur anyway-

    • @JohnDoe-uf3lj
      @JohnDoe-uf3lj Před 2 lety +18

      I was unfamiliar with it being a slur, but Lady Danger does sound classy!

    • @kubli365
      @kubli365 Před 2 lety +6

      whereas Gypsy Danger is a funny one it don't sound like a fighting name at all lmao

    • @stryke-jn3kv
      @stryke-jn3kv Před 2 lety +27

      @@JohnDoe-uf3lj The slur thing is complicated and not as cut and dried as the intro to this vid makes out. It's also very nationality dependent and just because some american with romani ancestry somewhere, and who don't do the traveller lifestyle but does have a tumblr account may claim it is with authority don't neccessarily make it so. There's also those who identify as the above slur and would be more insulted if you assume because they'do the ltraveller ifestyle they're romani. It's probably closer to something like 'boy' argiably. Not a slur in of itself, but sure as hell can be used as one dependent on context.

    • @denysopalenyk4775
      @denysopalenyk4775 Před 2 lety +11

      ​@@stryke-jn3kv "Gypsy" may be considered as a slur in case of using it towards romani (with a certain intent). Otherwise, it is closer to "vagrant" or "stray". And since none of the Gypsy Danger's pilots are romani and the origin of this jaeger doesn't have anything to do with a specific etnicity, I think replacing "Gypsy Danger" with "Lady Danger" (or "Sir Danger", doesn't really matter) is kinda dumb. If you really think about it, you can create a context where any word would be offensive. And when someone adds such a context when there wasn't one to begin with, they're doing a great disservice to all sides of a conflict

  • @c.smidgeon2847
    @c.smidgeon2847 Před 2 lety +35

    My biggest problem with the Jaeger fights in Uprising was that imo, the movie failed to capture the scale of the mechs and the kaiju in the same way the first did. It felt more like action figures being thrown at each other rather than a truly massive fight between titanic beasts of flesh and metal.
    But uh, yeah. Other than that, I think I agree with pretty much everything you said about Uprising. Scrapper was fantastic, Jake and Nate were quite amusing, and Mako's death felt like highway robbery. Overall, fun stuff, very gay

  • @rabnerd28
    @rabnerd28 Před 2 lety +96

    Finally! Someone else who realizes that Uprising is gay culture!

  • @rabnerd28
    @rabnerd28 Před 2 lety +59

    Loving the Supernatural salt in the visuals.

  • @MrKaiju-sr8wu
    @MrKaiju-sr8wu Před 2 lety +18

    It's interesting hearing how differently Legendary treated the Pacific Rim franchise compared to how they treat the Monsterverse. those movies aren't thaaat much more succesful, yet they seem a lot more forgiving and overall more respectful to the monsterverse. I guess Godzilla is just their favorite child, and is the more preferable kaiju franchise to the studio. I am a huge Godzilla fan, and I think I like the monsterverse more as a franchise overall, but I kinda wish they'd give pacific rim the same care and respect.

  • @bagheadstudios1084
    @bagheadstudios1084 Před 2 lety +36

    Am I the only one whose brain gets a shot of seratonin when I hear her say ‘content warning’, because I know I’m in for another excellent 90 minutes?

  • @jetstreamjackie3437
    @jetstreamjackie3437 Před 2 lety +38

    wait Polygon Pictures did Tron: Uprising?? that show was gorgeous, I feel so bad that The Black turned out this way. It could've looked amazing

  • @Jixa15
    @Jixa15 Před 2 lety +18

    I literally started crying when you mentioned the shoe just cause that was such a strong scene for me when I first saw the movie at nineteen.

  • @breadplaysyougames
    @breadplaysyougames Před 2 lety +10

    Ladyknightthebrave has uploaded. Oh great! I didn’t know I was gonna cry today but I guess that’s gonna happen now.

  • @Kaegri
    @Kaegri Před 2 lety +34

    Half Japanese here. Mako getting Fridged was a shallow plot choice, especially when DeKnight says he could've switched her out with Herc and not made much of a difference. Like she's replaceable with anyone. He does miss the point of that question, which is pretty sad, but not surprising. I LOVE Kikuchi Rinko so much, and her death in Uprising made me internally disown the sequel from the PR universe - it just became a multi-million budget fanfic that I was watching and going 'okay, fully ignoring what just happened - hopefully other fanfic will deliver on a better fulfilling plot'.
    For me, fic has become such the emotional baseline for storytelling, so films kind of feel like intro stepping stones to better stories that fics can deliver. But the original PR film HAD that delivery and soul already! I love that film so much.

    • @adamjaxn3156
      @adamjaxn3156 Před 2 lety +4

      Definitely lazy screenwriting on Uprising. I think DeKnight saw Mako and Shao together and thought "This will confuse American audiences and China will only cheer for Shao."

    • @Kaegri
      @Kaegri Před 2 lety +2

      @@adamjaxn3156 dang that could be their thought process - 'only one token per nationality or it's confusing' type thing; whereas I'd be sitting here getting progressively MORE excited the more Asian cast members and characters there are 😁
      Kikuchi Rinko, Sanada Hiroyuki and Okamoto Tao in Westworld S3 had me absolutely screeching with joy haha

    • @adamjaxn3156
      @adamjaxn3156 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Kaegri yup, it would have been great to bring in more little known Asian actors to this franchise. Maybe if Del Toro comes back one day.

    • @MrPiccoloku
      @MrPiccoloku Před 2 lety +2

      I'm currently in the process of re-watching the Star Wars prequels with my family. We're about to watch Episode 3: The High Ground Meme. The second paragraph of your comment really resonated with me as someone who watched them as a kid and was like "This is trash and the effects look all kinds of wrong and our tragic hero Anakin is basically a creepy incel but the comics and games that came out of it are really good" and the comics and games are. They're EXTREMELY well-written, which is weird considering how a lot of the good ones were written when everybody thought that Episode 1 was the greatest movie of all time, and I'm looking forward to seeing the finale of the big-screen adaptation of my favorite Lego Star Wars levels.

  • @user-xb5bz4fu9o
    @user-xb5bz4fu9o Před 2 lety +16

    Sad you didn't mention trollhunters as of Guillermo's projects! It's such a lovely show and so emblematic of themes in Pacific rim imo

  • @thesalamanderking3475
    @thesalamanderking3475 Před 2 lety +9

    It’s downright impressive that Legendary was somehow able to release two kaiju masterpieces back to back in 2013 and 2014. Pacific Rim and Godzilla are both incredible movies in the same genre, yet they are on complete opposite ends of the tonal spectrum. Godzilla 2014 is very reminiscent of the original 1954 Gojira, while Pacific Rim reminds me a lot of the original Ultraman from 1966.

  • @dccalling5960
    @dccalling5960 Před 2 lety +17

    I literally cannot even imagine what it would be like if someone brought up a fic I wrote in 2014 in a random CZcams video by one of my favorite creators. Extremely flattered, probably, but also probably quietly horrified and questioning my life choices?
    Which is not at all a comment on your use of it in this video I just can't fathom what that would be like.

  • @minxcey
    @minxcey Před 2 lety +17

    Mako gets friged one of the things that killed it for me

  • @ericasumrall
    @ericasumrall Před 2 lety +53

    I said to my husband, "I wonder if she's gonna talk about Designations?!" (He's familiar with it because I told him all about it when I was reading it originally and many times since 😂) Needless to say, we were euphoric when you mentioned it! Such a great video, as always. And I really hope that we somehow get a third film.

  • @call-me-pigeon
    @call-me-pigeon Před 2 lety +35

    I really appreciate hearing you talk through PR2--I really disliked it when I saw it the first time, but I feel like I could give it another try now!

  • @kovokkovariki
    @kovokkovariki Před 2 lety +8

    "You. Me. Punching cars to the beat of Pacific Rim's OST. Just... just think about it..."

  • @funfuz
    @funfuz Před 2 lety +13

    What honestly always makes me laugh, as someone who's lived in Sydney, is that the Kaiju is coming from inland (?!) in the Sydney scene. And also, the Wall has been built with the policy makers basically being like: "Fuck North Sydney!". XD

  • @HotDogTimeMachine385
    @HotDogTimeMachine385 Před 2 lety +6

    Joel from Pacific Rim The Black is one of my favorite things in the universe honestly?
    How drifting with someone will let their thoughts seep into you, and suddenly you're spinning a knife or playing an instrument because that's something THEY were able to do.
    They never do anything with it, but it has some great potential!

  • @TheSleepiestPlurals
    @TheSleepiestPlurals Před 2 lety +5

    the biggest issue to me about Uprising is that I feel like it entirely missed the metaphor and theming of the original film. The Kaijus are supposed to represent natural disasters. Like hurricanes or earthquakes, they have categories, they have names the way hurricanes do. Whenever we see a kaiju onscreen it's raining and storming, the waves are huge. Think of those initial shots where we're introduced to them, the kaiju at the bridge with all that rain and foam, if you removed the cg monster it would look like a newsreel from a hurricane. I think that's one of the things that makes it so compelling, as climate change causes storms to get more and more intense each year and most people have experienced them to some extent. The second movie throws the entire storm theme out entirely, and in doing so I feel it loses sight about what Pacific Rim is meant to be about in the first place. But, Guillermo Del Toro seems to be happy with the departure. Uprising is just... a very different movie, which to me feels like it doesn't belong in the same franchise, but if he likes it, and other folks like it, more power to them. Also all the gay is top notch, John Boyega is top tier queer content

  • @stevedaguy9639
    @stevedaguy9639 Před 2 lety +130

    I really appreciate how sensitive you are about the Romani slur, I was unaware that it was a slur until recently. I hope media continues to spread and reinforce the idea that it could be offensive to certain people.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Před 2 lety +4

      Did they have a "good reason" to use the slur or did they just like the way it sounded?

    • @sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346
      @sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346 Před 2 lety +26

      That's because it's not a slur, at least not in the way you think it is. For English-speaking people, "racial slur" makes you think "n-word", but "gypsy" is nothing like that. Now mind you, I'm no authority on how it's used in English, but in Hungarian, it's only ever used pejoratively when calling a non-Romani person a gypsy. With the intention that being compared to them would be insulting, basically the same as when "gay" is used as an insult. Additionally, there are phrases like "gypsy music" and "gypsy musician" which carry no negative connotations and have no politically correct alternative, at least not that I've heard of. I've never heard anyone say something like "Romani musician" and neither have I ever seen anyone take offense to being referred to as "gypsy musician".

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Před 2 lety +7

      @@sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346 are you Romani?

    • @sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346
      @sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346 Před 2 lety +21

      @@Gloomdrake Does it matter? I didn't give my personal opinion on the matter, I explained how it IS used. I'm also not gay, can I not make the observation that it's usually not offensive to call someone that? Or flip it around, say I am, does my opinion then discredit the opinions of those who do take offense to it?
      If you do want my opinion, I think that Romani people are treated like absolute subhuman garbage here, and I find that deeply disgusting for obvious reasons. But the usage of the word "gypsy" is an insignificant factor, if a factor at all, which is debatable for the aforementioned reasons.

    • @Gloomdrake
      @Gloomdrake Před 2 lety +10

      @@sacwingedbatsatadbitsad4346 it matters because a non-Romani doesn't get to decide what is or isn't an anti-Romani slur

  • @Tricksterbelle
    @Tricksterbelle Před 2 lety +12

    Excellent video, not just about the media but also the fandom around it. At the time, it felt like one of the first films where all the characters were diverse but with their own interior lives. & the Tumblr fandom I was part of at the time latched onto that and fleshed out everyone.
    Also, my husband and I entered our wedding reception to the Pacific Rim theme and I will defend that choice to the bitter end

  • @katherinealvarez9216
    @katherinealvarez9216 Před 2 lety +44

    Pacific Rim Black: Hold it, they made it Dark Gritty Edge? Why are all the fun stuff being turn into Dark& Gritty?? I thought we were done with that nonsense.

    • @adolfopaezdiaz4371
      @adolfopaezdiaz4371 Před 2 lety

      First of all, is not like everything is dark and gritty there is still a sense about hope and bounds between two different people,. Is not silly and epic as the first movie but is not an unbearable mess as uprising.

    • @katherinealvarez9216
      @katherinealvarez9216 Před 2 lety

      @@adolfopaezdiaz4371 Okay, I'll take it off the list.

  • @Nitenshi
    @Nitenshi Před 2 lety +20

    I'm only 20 min through and I just want to say that I love your storytelling in all of your videos. Even when I'm not familiar with the material, you make me emotional for shows I don't know.
    But right now, I'm at work, so I'll just restrain (or trying to) from crying.

  • @Wildclaw003
    @Wildclaw003 Před 2 lety +7

    Liwen and Hermann working together is peak mlm wlw solidarity and it fills me with endless joy

  • @theowild2524
    @theowild2524 Před 2 lety +21

    I've never read Designations, but i was so stoked at the mention of From out the Ocean Risen!! My pacrim hyperfixation hit me like a wrecking ball a few months back and seeing people talk about it is so fun! I really lived how the chapter about the first movie felt like a love letter. I disagree with a lot of your takes about the second movie, but you make me want to give it another chance (You're right that its INCREDIBLY gay, but I'm not sure I can forgive it for the solution to Newt's being brainwashed and/or completely controlled for over a decade being "lets tie him to a chair in a darth vader basement"). Also, the obvious answer to the Reyes Question is a Lambert/Pentacost/Reyes polycule. Or shipping her with Li Wen; that works too. Thanks for reminding me of all the reasons I ADORE the pacrim 'verse!!

  • @lauraeleven7417
    @lauraeleven7417 Před 2 lety +31

    I remember this movie because my tumblr mutuals went crazy over it back in the day. I'm Brazilian, so the americans naturally got to see it first and were very excitedly hyping this up as "great representation of nations joining in to fight a problem, truly global" and then I went to the movies to watch it once it came out and really the only nations that had spoken lines were America, Japan and Australia, and I was so incensed! I remember i sent a message to one of my mutuals like "this movie is only global to Americans" and they were like "but they mention Brazil" yeah, in one line in the introduction. Amazing. So when the second movie came out I completely ignored its existence. Never even knew they made an anime about it.

    • @JohnDoe-uf3lj
      @JohnDoe-uf3lj Před 2 lety

      Bummer, dude. I’m an American, so I never really consider that idea until it gets brought up.

  • @mangajag
    @mangajag Před 2 lety +10

    okay youve sold me, i have to watch these movies, mainly for Owen
    Edit: just watched the a first one. As someone who walks with a cane, I don't mind Owen doing so. BUT I was not prepared for how lovecraftian things would be D: loved all the emotional scenes, feared everything on the other side.

    • @nxgan1088
      @nxgan1088 Před 2 lety

      Is it bad that I think I know exactly who you're referring to when you say Owen?
      Like??
      The doctor from Torchwood???

    • @mangajag
      @mangajag Před 2 lety

      @@nxgan1088 yeah, it's hard for me to remember character names when I'm used to them in one role ^^'

  • @sophiaarndt5496
    @sophiaarndt5496 Před 2 lety +22

    IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE!! TURN IT UP

  • @jasonevanchik503
    @jasonevanchik503 Před 2 lety +21

    I agree that the anime is flawed in many ways from the pacing to the animation. However it is fascinating to think of it as the inevitable conclusion to the Pacific Rim Universe and no matter what the characters do this magic simply isn't sustainable. Furthermore I think that a lot of the ideas it introduces such as Boy being part kaiju part human is really interesting pointing to some crazy world where both dimensions have collided. This also leads to the actual monsters (Both Robot and Kaiju) being able to have their own distinctive personalities adding a whole new potential layer to the franchise.

    • @adolfopaezdiaz4371
      @adolfopaezdiaz4371 Před 2 lety +4

      Yeah I mean, the anime might be beyond perfect but I honestly disagree with her about being made "without passion" because I really think people behind didn't everything they could with what they had in comparison with Uprising like instead of trying to mimic visually stunning fights it give us a character driven story that can improve overtime if you let it do it. The character feel like they have a long journey ahead, there only "problem" is they don't have a define characteristic that makes them feel compelling but I feel that is going to change in the future. The animation... is weird in human characters but works in the jaegers and I think it could be improve with a bigger budget.

  • @agentdragon9417
    @agentdragon9417 Před 2 lety +5

    I fell asleep to this. Woke up halfway through heard ‘lady danger’ and immediately thought ‘seems lady knight has an arch nemesis now’

  • @GigglingGoof
    @GigglingGoof Před 2 lety +14

    I let youtube play through while I was cooking and this popped up and I was so confused how in the world did I miss one of your videos?!?
    Then I realized the video came out 7 minutes ago! 😂

  • @spencar666
    @spencar666 Před 2 lety +2

    me watching this on a tuesday: oh, it IS a tuesday. I won't worry about it.

  • @mjlamey1066
    @mjlamey1066 Před 2 lety +5

    I will also never forgive the movie industry for not casting Burn Gorman as Alan Turing in literally anything. The man is a dead ringer for him.

  • @maximekitza2084
    @maximekitza2084 Před 2 lety +22

    Regarding Mako and Raleigh’s duel, Jill Berup has made an awesome overview of the dialogue built in the exchange and now I can’t look at fights without trying to see what they’re saying while fighting. Awesome video from another great creator. 10/10, fully recommend.

  • @Noobdewd
    @Noobdewd Před 2 lety +7

    I'm 30 minutes in and I am legit crying. Hearing you talk about the movie is like you're pulling my love for this movie from my brain in ways I couldn't speak. Thank you for this

  • @JordanSullivanadventures
    @JordanSullivanadventures Před 2 lety +21

    My main complaint about Pacific Rim is that there are like 15 different blonde white guys of approximately the same height and build, and I can never for the life of me tell them apart.

  • @groofay
    @groofay Před 2 lety +7

    Alright, time to see what this month's "drop everything and make tea and popcorn" video makes me feel.

  • @5lizardsinatrenchcoat546
    @5lizardsinatrenchcoat546 Před 2 lety +8

    Pacific Rim is one of my favorite movies and I think the way you discuss it is brilliant. Your balance between objective observation and subjective opinion is what makes your videos so solid, engaging, and smart. I've been watching your videos for a while and I love them all but this is by far one of my favorites

  • @jillybellies
    @jillybellies Před 2 lety +11

    I have two instances of watching the first movie that stuck with me. Seeing it in theaters with a girl who would become my platonic soulmate (which heck ya love that platonic rep in this movie) and feeling energized and excited and such a nerd. And then showing it to my friend and her husband when we were all living in Japan just south of Kobe, watching it via a projector we set up to cover a full wall of their living room, and recreating being Kaiju and Jeagers wearing our silly godzilla pajamas in the living room while the credits played. When I think of 'fun' this is the movie I think of. I was pretty put off by things I had heard about uprising so I didn't give it a chance, after watching your video I think I might next time I need dan uplifting bit of cinema. As always excellent video!

  • @jessesmith4044
    @jessesmith4044 Před 2 lety +6

    "Spoiler warning for pacifc rim the black" was the reminder I needed to go watch it because I completely forgot

  • @rabnerd28
    @rabnerd28 Před 2 lety +13

    Everyone in the world hyperfixated on the first Pacific Rim and Newt/Gottlieb, but here I was in 2018 hyperfixing on Uprising and Jake/Nate.

  • @itsah-lee-uh7185
    @itsah-lee-uh7185 Před 2 lety +4

    Maybe the only reason the world worked together was because there were giant robots involved

  • @powerofanime1
    @powerofanime1 Před 2 lety +3

    GDT understands the real meaning of the phrase "the first person you must satisfy is yourself" better than 90 percent of the rest of his profession. Make a movie you would pay to watch, and we will.

  • @DoraG99
    @DoraG99 Před 2 lety +5

    Supernatural was truly comical period in hindsight 😂

  • @MaverickMario
    @MaverickMario Před 2 lety +8

    YES! I didn’t realize how much I wanted you to talk about Pacific Rim till Now!

  • @pinkpandamiranda
    @pinkpandamiranda Před 2 lety +7

    Guillermo uses fountain pens! I thought so from the ink in his journal, but seeing the pen clinched it. That's so cool!

  • @4dultw1thj0b
    @4dultw1thj0b Před 2 lety +9

    I'm heartbroken by how he talked about cows ;_;

  • @roboturtle6549
    @roboturtle6549 Před 2 lety +3

    This is really late, but personally the first Pacific Rim is one of my all time favorite movies. Uprising was okay I guess, really only cared for the fight scenes. The Black while definitely more edgy then the first two films was way more enjoyable for me then Uprising was.

  • @timeneses
    @timeneses Před 2 lety +11

    Where is the comment on Jill Bearup's breakdown of the fight choreography with the drift candidates? It is marvelous and a companion piece to the movie recap.

  • @Feriowind
    @Feriowind Před 2 lety +5

    haha wasnt expecting it to be so painful seeing my old art in this video! and also the pain of being reminded of what pacific rim 2 could have been if guillermo had gotten the chance to make it.....

    • @Ladyknightthebrave
      @Ladyknightthebrave  Před 2 lety +3

      I thought youre art was beautiful!!

    • @Ladyknightthebrave
      @Ladyknightthebrave  Před 2 lety +3

      I hope you liked the rest of the video though, I'm sorry if that bit was painful

    • @Feriowind
      @Feriowind Před 2 lety +1

      @@Ladyknightthebrave thank you! and the rest of the video was great haha, just tons of memories for me XD

  • @TrenchMan93
    @TrenchMan93 Před rokem +1

    Gipsy danger would always be my fave hero robot. I was 19 when i saw her/him fight on screen and i was so happy. Pacific rim was the last movie where i felt genuine excitement for outside of godzilla in 2014. To show that kaiju films can exist in the western world.

  • @africanchick23
    @africanchick23 Před 2 lety +3

    surprised you didn't mention the comic that bridged Pacific Rim and Uprising...it was up on Webtoon for a while. It completely goes over Amara's backstory, about her dog and her family and what happened when they all died. Its very good.