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- čas přidán 11. 05. 2024
- Criminal Defence Lawyers Joseph Neuberger, Michael Bury, and CZcams personality, legal researcher and host of the UnTrue Crime podcast Diana Davison, sit down and discuss the aftermath of their trials and the emerging and alarming changes to our legal system. A behind the scenes inside look into real courtroom drama.
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I loved listening to this and learned a lot. It also changed how I felt and viewed this case and others. Thank you! I'm from Midwest USA.
Your firm is the best! Another great legal analysis!
Great episode tonight!
"I'm not a lawyer, but I play one on TV."
And the show isn't even accurate in many cases. For instance, "Our Special Love" is described as "a porn website ... based on a real life organization, Newgon," yet bears no resemblance to Newgon, which doesn't even allow porn on its platform and is strictly an advocacy group.
25:43 Supporting evidence. No conviction should be possible based solely on testimony from a single eye witness.
Cases are prosecuted in advance in media in Canada too, not just in the USA. That's why, for example, so many media consumers were FURIOUS that Jian Ghomeshi was acquitted.
Also, the comment, "they're not survivors, they're victims" (20:05) is confusing.
Thanks for another important episode.
The fall out was after the verdict and then the Prime Minister's insane response
Myriad media features made the case against Jian long before trial (credit to Diana for criticism of his trial by media) - eg. The Unmaking of Jian Ghomeshi - the Fifth Estate: m.czcams.com/video/aV2wzubgh1M/video.html&pp=ygUdVGhlIHVubWFraW5nIG9mIGppYW4gZ2hvbWVzaGk%3D
You're not supposed to get re-tried in Canada either. It's in our Charter which says to the effect once "all" avenues have been tried you can't re-try someone. That of course is contrary to the point of the clause in the first place! Why have the clause if you can try ppl over and over?
lol you got your wish a false accuser is being sued, Emma Gabbey is being sued by 4 other people in addition to the Tates. It turns out she did the same crap to other men. So that should be something to keep track of. The other girls going after Tate dropped their cases
When did this trend of submitting "similar acts" start? I must be behind the times on this issue, b/c I always understood you can't bring up other (alleged) crimes as prejudicing the court! They know it's wrong otherwise they'd allow the same against the accuser! Once again tilting the playing field!
Different rules of justice when a Femunist mob is after you!
It is law in Canada for decades but it has been tightly applied in Canada. The US has been same for a long time BUT applied in not a very strict rigorous manner.
Can anybody say what evidence was provided in the California case against Weinstein?
Well, in that case, Weinstein was on trial for 4 different allegations(originally 5, but the 5th accuser was unable to testify so the prosecutors dropped her charges during the trial), and the prosecutors put on 4 prior bad acts accusers. Weinstein was only convicted of raping Jane Doe 1. He was acquitted on the charges regarding Jane Doe 3, and the jury deadlocked on the charges involving Jane Doe 2(10-2 in favor of Guilty) and Jane Doe 4(8-4 in favor of Guilty). The deadlocked charges were dropped after the trial.
Now, legal experts think the California conviction is less likely to be overturned because California law explicitly allows prior bad acts witnesses, but there is also another issue Weinstein's lawyers have brought up: The issue of the judge in the trial refusing to allow the jury to see text messages that they claim exonerate Weinstein of the crime he was convicted of.
Now, Weinstein claimed he had never even met Jane Doe 1, and Weinstein's lawyers claim the text messages show she was with another man on the night in question and not with Weinstein. In fact, 3 jurors from the trial have come forward and said they wouldn't have convicted Weinstein had they seen the text messages.
Now, I haven't seen these text messages, so I have no idea if Weinstein's lawyers are full of it or if they're telling the truth, but if they're telling the truth, I could see Weinstein getting his California conviction overturned just on that alone.
Sources: variety.com/2023/film/news/harvey-weinstein-appeal-rape-conviction-1235533035/
timesofsandiego.com/crime/2023/10/12/harvey-weinstein-jane-doe-get-split-decision-from-judge-in-lawsuit/
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Miley or Cyrus? Hahaha.
A very important point, but Diana's mockery of the complainant felt rather distasteful.