@@BelieveTheTarget yes it is. But I saw him hit the spotter something like 15 times and hit the spindle also at 600 yards at Camp Perry. That man ain’t normal.
@@josephjulian2503there is a difference between shooting a HP target and then a 2 inch square. With the HP target you have a huge black circle you can use as a reference. The black goes all the way out the 7 ring and that’s 36” across for 600 yards. You can’t see a 2 inch square at 500 with irons so you have nothing to reference off of.
I had the great pleasure of meeting Mr Tubb in 2018 at the King of 2 miles prior to the FCSA 50 cal World Titles in Raton, NM. He is an absolute gentleman who was happy to spend time talking to us dumb Aussie's. The range we shot on was the " George Tubb " 1000 yard range named in honour of his Father.
I have read and watched all that i could about Mr. Tubbs. Total genius on shooting and products dealing with it, thank you Eric, greatly appreciate this.
I’ve been waiting on this one. It was worth it too. Pretty sure I still have my VHS of his One Mile Shot video. Would have loved to see prime Tubb vs the KYL.
I've followed David for awhile because I used to be interested in highpower. He seems to be smart, or should I say very smart, and there is no question of his skill and ability. He also has a tremendous amount of experience. He experiments and he uses what works not what someone tells him works or what people choose based on guesswork or voodoo. Highpower requires a high degree of precision. Depending on a person's skill level, standing and prone might not require so much precision but the prone positions do so you need an accurate rifle and good ammunition. There are plenty of people who can lay on their stomach with a sling and open sights, no bipod, and shoot in the 1 MOA range. With iron sights or low magnification scope as allowed in the rules, you don't detect any movement.
The priorities are different in sling shooting. Load accuracy is important but means nothing if you can't hold the gun steady. Shooters at Mr. Tubb's level holds steadily enough to worry about maximizing load accuracy. But most shooters out there cannot. For them, it's much more important to work on the position than to develop loads to the nth degree. Time spent on refining the load is time NOT spent on refining and practicing the fundamentals. The most extreme example of sling shooters not worrying about loads is Swiss 300-meter shooting, in which you are REQUIRED to shoot military-issued ammunition such as GP11. GP11 is as good as military ammo gets but it's nowhere near handloads, not to mention the fact that it's .30 caliber and packs a wallop. Yet, with this ammo, top-level Swiss shooters are able to regularly clean the 300m target, which has a 1.2-minute 10-ring and not much easier than the F-class target. This shows you just how much fundamentals matter in sling shooting.
3:00 Finally, a silhouette shooter. It's not popular nowadays, but this shooting discipline really deserves some more attention. Nothing more badass then somebody hitting game size targets at 300 - 600 yards off hand.
I've always thought a PRS match should have at least two stages shooting standing off hand with target skill level equal to bigbore silhouette. Then the rifles, and especially the scopes, would look like practical rifles and not like "field benchrest". There is a funny video from Canada where 22lr PRS shooters are required to shoot 77m and 100m smallbore silhouette included in the PRS match 🤣
Awesome, as always, tons of knowledge and experience to learn from. I have two 6xc rifles, had another one on its second barrel before this two and I've shot a few thousand dtacs. Thanks both of you fpr your time and for sharing your knowledge. BTW...Erick, I emailed you a while back, I'm planning a trip to TX to hunt hogs and I'd like to come and shoot the blackjack challenge. Mr. Tubb, I'll shoot one of my 6xc rifles if you talk Erick into replying to my email, I haven't seen a 6xc on the line yet, I'll try to not make it look bad 🙂😄
Traditional target to modern precision disciplines. Up there with Accuracy International legend, Malcolm Cooper. What a stellar conversation. More please Erik and David 😎🔥
He probably doesn't have the eyesight that he had 25 years ago, but David Tubb would be pretty high on the list of guys that could possibly take your money on the open sight blackjack challenge.
Hey Señor Cortina, I dont know if the answer to this question is privi to your members, but have you ever tested aiming at a dot vs a sharp edge? I understand shooting in the .01's is already a major feat but in my mind aiming at a dot leaves allot of reticle float "error" I dont have the equipment nor skill to verify this for myself, anyway thanks for all of your time and sharing of knowledge through you and everyone
Hello Eric - would it be possible to ask Dave a few follow-up questions about .37/.41 XC usage in ELR? Perhaps as a shorter-format, just for questions from viewers?
love the video!!!!!! but a 65,000 psi chamber is around 30,000 psi at 6-7'' past the barrels chamber and around 5,000-4500psi at a 24'' muzzle and a 12 gauge with 11,700psi at the chamber is around 2,000 psi at a 28'' muzzle , there is no 65,000PSI at ANY MUZZLE FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David has been a long time user of a Prometheus. He is where I first learned of that instrument. Don’t know if that is still the case but it wouldn’t surprise me.
I have a rifle I like David to shoot it was a major grouper out the box with a 3-9 tasco scope 40 at walmart! & resided 6.5 x55 sweed old used & live ammo from a gun smiths stock of stuff he sold the guy lost his sight! (i was his friend like who i really was in question I was adopted) ok it lead to a illness a100% death rate cancer & the only name i had lead to the same illness but he the first man to live threw it & its control based on his real saved blood IE it was frozen really DNA told all what I had it name & it control was already known & who caused me to be sick The US Government a test after WW2 on ships & the mechanic for boats was my real mothers uncle its a gene thing! like IS THIS THE REAL TRUTH! i WAS A SEAL ADOPTION STATE , FEDERAL SEALED RECORDS & ONLY NAME & NUMBER IN A GOVERNMENT MEDICAL COMPUTER IT WENT TILT! THE MAN THAT THE MED BLOOD THINNER WAS FOUND TO WORK ON OR WITH) HE THE 3 MAN NAMED IN MY SEAL ADOPTION A COURT JOB ASKED AND GIVEN OK TO SEE MY REAL FATHER TO MY 18 TH BIRTH DAY I WAS LIKE 2 YEARS OLD ON NOVEMBER 1963 HE WAS THERE! IT LEAD BACK TO THE N bomb test after WW2 ended! the 3 person was there & got sick later! that what I have in my blood my nevada US airforce station Job! what am i doing in northern PA & it where i came home to die from a unknown blood illness it was already found out & controled I even had a Holy spirit question and answer it came like the illness 100% death but it was 100% right I live threw it! it not cause my death! that what i heard ok how? a control would come IT did! the CZ usa 550 is the rifle i have its the best one i have grouping wise scope was broken tho! it a 2-10 mildot now tasco ok I have several rifles in 6 mm & 6.5 and 270 or 6.8 or 7mm or 284 it the bullet maker & barrel twist it bullets made by Hornady & brass cases & back cut flash holes reloads & 139 bought in bag for 20 dollars & simmons scope on a 7mm prc the best group tested of neck turned & special ammo i did ( i have blown bicep tendon & bad eyes one far sided and one near sided & i on blood thinner for life I do as the high calling of God the creator wants me to do! Jesus and the holy spirit the machine that saved info the pc computer in a hospital it redesign is tied back to nevada & a little man named Gates like I said to him loudly THIS IS YOUR JOB to fix it he looked at me like a deer in headlights look in 1984 it made his brain work he need my info to fix the computer & wire the world in wifi & medical lan systems to take name & military number this is all i got I believe there something here!)
The priorities are different in sling shooting. Load accuracy is important but means nothing if you can't hold the gun steady. Shooters at Mr. Tubb's level holds steadily enough to worry about maximizing load accuracy. But most shooters out there cannot. For them, it's much more important to work on the position than to develop loads to the nth degree. Time spent on refining the load is time NOT spent on refining and practicing the fundamentals. The most extreme example of sling shooters not worrying about loads is Swiss 300-meter shooting, in which you are REQUIRED to shoot military-issued ammunition such as GP11. GP11 is as good as military ammo gets but it's nowhere near handloads, not to mention the fact that it's .30 caliber and packs a wallop. Yet, with this ammo, top-level Swiss shooters are able to regularly clean the 300m target, which has a 1.2-minute 10-ring and not much easier than the F-class target. This shows you just how much fundamentals matter in sling shooting.
The priorities are different in sling shooting. Load accuracy is important but means nothing if you can't hold the gun steady. Shooters at Mr. Tubb's level holds steadily enough to worry about maximizing load accuracy. But most shooters out there cannot. For them, it's much more important to work on the position than to develop loads to the nth degree. Time spent on refining the load is time NOT spent on refining and practicing the fundamentals. The most extreme example of sling shooters not worrying about loads is Swiss 300-meter shooting, in which you are REQUIRED to shoot military-issued ammunition such as GP11. GP11 is as good as military ammo gets but it's nowhere near handloads, not to mention the fact that it's .30 caliber and packs a wallop. Yet, with this ammo, top-level Swiss shooters are able to regularly clean the 300m target, which has a 1.2-minute 10-ring and not much easier than the F-class target. This shows you just how much fundamentals matter in sling shooting.
When David was in his prime, your $5,000 iron sight challenge would be in serious jeopardy.
Doubt it. Hard to see impacts at 500 with naked eye.
@@BelieveTheTarget yes it is. But I saw him hit the spotter something like 15 times and hit the spindle also at 600 yards at Camp Perry. That man ain’t normal.
Optimus prime ? 😂
Yes, he was a dangerous high power shooter. If Tubb was shooting you’d better have brought your A game.
@@josephjulian2503there is a difference between shooting a HP target and then a 2 inch square. With the HP target you have a huge black circle you can use as a reference. The black goes all the way out the 7 ring and that’s 36” across for 600 yards. You can’t see a 2 inch square at 500 with irons so you have nothing to reference off of.
I had the great pleasure of meeting Mr Tubb in 2018 at the King of 2 miles prior to the FCSA 50 cal World Titles in Raton, NM. He is an absolute gentleman who was happy to spend time talking to us dumb Aussie's. The range we shot on was the " George Tubb " 1000 yard range named in honour of his Father.
Nothing but respect for Mr. Tubb. I'd like to thank you two for taking the time to have an informative conversation.
Much appreciated
I grew up in the 80s reading about David Tubb in my grandpa's American Rifleman magazines. He's been a legend to me ever since.
David Tubb is a legend and a wealth of knowledge. Glad he has been a great friend and have had many conversations to help me in my shooting career 💪
I have read and watched all that i could about Mr. Tubbs. Total genius on shooting and products dealing with it, thank you Eric, greatly appreciate this.
This is the interview I’ve been waiting for since the series started. Thank you!
Hope you enjoyed it!
I’ve been waiting on this one. It was worth it too.
Pretty sure I still have my VHS of his One Mile Shot video.
Would have loved to see prime Tubb vs the KYL.
I think I still have that vhs too!
Erik, thank you for this channel. The decades of knowledge and experience recorded on it are invaluable.
My pleasure!
IMO David Tubb is legendary. Just like Erik will be one day.
David's 115 DTAC belongs in the hall of fame.
I have the original Sierra Reloading VHS with David Tubb. He taught me how to load ammo!! He's the Man!!!
I've followed David for awhile because I used to be interested in highpower. He seems to be smart, or should I say very smart, and there is no question of his skill and ability. He also has a tremendous amount of experience. He experiments and he uses what works not what someone tells him works or what people choose based on guesswork or voodoo.
Highpower requires a high degree of precision. Depending on a person's skill level, standing and prone might not require so much precision but the prone positions do so you need an accurate rifle and good ammunition. There are plenty of people who can lay on their stomach with a sling and open sights, no bipod, and shoot in the 1 MOA range. With iron sights or low magnification scope as allowed in the rules, you don't detect any movement.
An industry icon interviewed by an industry titan, what more can anyone ask for?
The priorities are different in sling shooting. Load accuracy is important but means nothing if you can't hold the gun steady. Shooters at Mr. Tubb's level holds steadily enough to worry about maximizing load accuracy. But most shooters out there cannot. For them, it's much more important to work on the position than to develop loads to the nth degree. Time spent on refining the load is time NOT spent on refining and practicing the fundamentals.
The most extreme example of sling shooters not worrying about loads is Swiss 300-meter shooting, in which you are REQUIRED to shoot military-issued ammunition such as GP11. GP11 is as good as military ammo gets but it's nowhere near handloads, not to mention the fact that it's .30 caliber and packs a wallop. Yet, with this ammo, top-level Swiss shooters are able to regularly clean the 300m target, which has a 1.2-minute 10-ring and not much easier than the F-class target. This shows you just how much fundamentals matter in sling shooting.
3:00 Finally, a silhouette shooter. It's not popular nowadays, but this shooting discipline really deserves some more attention. Nothing more badass then somebody hitting game size targets at 300 - 600 yards off hand.
I've always thought a PRS match should have at least two stages shooting standing off hand with target skill level equal to bigbore silhouette. Then the rifles, and especially the scopes, would look like practical rifles and not like "field benchrest".
There is a funny video from Canada where 22lr PRS shooters are required to shoot 77m and 100m smallbore silhouette included in the PRS match 🤣
This is the one I have been waiting for.
Awesome, as always, tons of knowledge and experience to learn from. I have two 6xc rifles, had another one on its second barrel before this two and I've shot a few thousand dtacs. Thanks both of you fpr your time and for sharing your knowledge. BTW...Erick, I emailed you a while back, I'm planning a trip to TX to hunt hogs and I'd like to come and shoot the blackjack challenge. Mr. Tubb, I'll shoot one of my 6xc rifles if you talk Erick into replying to my email, I haven't seen a 6xc on the line yet, I'll try to not make it look bad 🙂😄
Been wanting to see this forever! LESSS GOOOOO!!!!!!!
David, it was great to see and listen to you again. All the best
Thanks David for the 6xc. Covers 90% of what I need!
Thank you Erik and David, been waiting for this one. Great interview.
Our pleasure!
Been Waiting for this for a while
Taught myself how to shoot long range off his tapes and now on his team and development group. David is the best rifleman to live in my opinion
Thank you Erik!
Another fantastic episode, thank you! And yes, you need to bring him back 👍👍
That's the plan!
His book on the M-14/M1A is a must read.
Great video & guest! I could listen to hours of this.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Traditional target to modern precision disciplines. Up there with Accuracy International legend, Malcolm Cooper. What a stellar conversation. More please Erik and David 😎🔥
Great interview!
Thx Dave. I 5 barrels in 6xc. Great interview.
OMG.... the David Tubb interview finally dropped!
Great interview! Great information from both.
Glad you enjoyed it!
It would be interesting if youtube was there when David was younger.
6XC one of my best calibers
Thank you for the knowledge
You bet!
Second GPG on that Tubb is a treasure and a legend just like Mid Tomkins and so many others.
Very informative . Was hopeing for reloading information. Watched one of his 5 yrs ago but interviewer did interuptions. Erric made good video
Big Tex! Finally!!
Get David on the challenge. That would be amazing.
David Tubb is the source of the river.
I'm hoping there's a part 2 to this one. I'd love to hear more about the 33XC as I'm about to build one soon if all goes well.
Hell ya fence post bench rest...lol
He probably doesn't have the eyesight that he had 25 years ago, but David Tubb would be pretty high on the list of guys that could possibly take your money on the open sight blackjack challenge.
lol, I doubt it. Being able to see impacts at 500 yards would require super human eye sight.
🤯 the info your these guys 🤯
If you ain’t cheating, you ain’t trying.
if you get caught cheating, you ain’t trying hard enough.
Who are you accusing of "Cheating"?????
Hey Señor Cortina, I dont know if the answer to this question is privi to your members, but have you ever tested aiming at a dot vs a sharp edge? I understand shooting in the .01's is already a major feat but in my mind aiming at a dot leaves allot of reticle float "error" I dont have the equipment nor skill to verify this for myself, anyway thanks for all of your time and sharing of knowledge through you and everyone
Mi amigo didn't ask David about the CLR for cleaning barrels I noticed.
Hello Eric - would it be possible to ask Dave a few follow-up questions about .37/.41 XC usage in ELR? Perhaps as a shorter-format, just for questions from viewers?
Were those 77's loaded to the same COAL though?
i currently shoot high power. ive done everything i can to make the rifle as accurate as possible that way if i miss its my fault.
Are the tuners of today the same as the Browning boss systems? If so why did Browing have such a hard time getting it to go?
They are different.
Not sure if its true or not but when I was a kid.... I read that David supposedly shot a 1/4 inch dot at a 100 yards...with peeps...
TUBB is class act ...well except for the remote motorized range cart ....lol ....jealous I didn’t make that mistake
love the video!!!!!! but a 65,000 psi chamber is around 30,000 psi at 6-7'' past the barrels chamber and around 5,000-4500psi at a 24'' muzzle and a 12 gauge with 11,700psi at the chamber is around 2,000 psi at a 28'' muzzle , there is no 65,000PSI at ANY MUZZLE FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
25 XC?
I wanted to hear what he was loading to the kernel with 😂
David has been a long time user of a Prometheus. He is where I first learned of that instrument. Don’t know if that is still the case but it wouldn’t surprise me.
#wrong ammo 😂
Eric…. Podbean!!!
Nope. Lol
@@BelieveTheTarget😡…. Ok…. Pick a podcast platform
Iv heard that this guy can shoot. Heard he would probably take that 5000$ Eric's got up for grabs.
I have a rifle I like David to shoot it was a major grouper out the box with a 3-9 tasco scope 40 at walmart! & resided 6.5 x55 sweed old used & live ammo from a gun smiths stock of stuff he sold the guy lost his sight! (i was his friend like who i really was in question I was adopted) ok it lead to a illness a100% death rate cancer & the only name i had lead to the same illness but he the first man to live threw it & its control based on his real saved blood IE it was frozen really DNA told all what I had it name & it control was already known & who caused me to be sick The US Government a test after WW2 on ships & the mechanic for boats was my real mothers uncle its a gene thing! like IS THIS THE REAL TRUTH! i WAS A SEAL ADOPTION STATE , FEDERAL SEALED RECORDS & ONLY NAME & NUMBER IN A GOVERNMENT MEDICAL COMPUTER IT WENT TILT! THE MAN THAT THE MED BLOOD THINNER WAS FOUND TO WORK ON OR WITH) HE THE 3 MAN NAMED IN MY SEAL ADOPTION A COURT JOB ASKED AND GIVEN OK TO SEE MY REAL FATHER TO MY 18 TH BIRTH DAY I WAS LIKE 2 YEARS OLD ON NOVEMBER 1963 HE WAS THERE! IT LEAD BACK TO THE N bomb test after WW2 ended! the 3 person was there & got sick later! that what I have in my blood my nevada US airforce station Job! what am i doing in northern PA & it where i came home to die from a unknown blood illness it was already found out & controled I even had a Holy spirit question and answer it came like the illness 100% death but it was 100% right I live threw it! it not cause my death! that what i heard ok how? a control would come IT did! the CZ usa 550 is the rifle i have its the best one i have grouping wise scope was broken tho! it a 2-10 mildot now tasco ok I have several rifles in 6 mm & 6.5 and 270 or 6.8 or 7mm or 284 it the bullet maker & barrel twist it bullets made by Hornady & brass cases & back cut flash holes reloads & 139 bought in bag for 20 dollars & simmons scope on a 7mm prc the best group tested of neck turned & special ammo i did ( i have blown bicep tendon & bad eyes one far sided and one near sided & i on blood thinner for life I do as the high calling of God the creator wants me to do! Jesus and the holy spirit the machine that saved info the pc computer in a hospital it redesign is tied back to nevada & a little man named Gates like I said to him loudly THIS IS YOUR JOB to fix it he looked at me like a deer in headlights look in 1984 it made his brain work he need my info to fix the computer & wire the world in wifi & medical lan systems to take name & military number this is all i got I believe there something here!)
G.David Tubb has FORGOTTEN more about shooting a rifle accurately than any F Class shooter will ever know..
What a ridiculous statement. I'll never understand why a man will fawn over another man like this.
He does not know as much as you would think…
The priorities are different in sling shooting. Load accuracy is important but means nothing if you can't hold the gun steady. Shooters at Mr. Tubb's level holds steadily enough to worry about maximizing load accuracy. But most shooters out there cannot. For them, it's much more important to work on the position than to develop loads to the nth degree. Time spent on refining the load is time NOT spent on refining and practicing the fundamentals.
The most extreme example of sling shooters not worrying about loads is Swiss 300-meter shooting, in which you are REQUIRED to shoot military-issued ammunition such as GP11. GP11 is as good as military ammo gets but it's nowhere near handloads, not to mention the fact that it's .30 caliber and packs a wallop. Yet, with this ammo, top-level Swiss shooters are able to regularly clean the 300m target, which has a 1.2-minute 10-ring and not much easier than the F-class target. This shows you just how much fundamentals matter in sling shooting.
The priorities are different in sling shooting. Load accuracy is important but means nothing if you can't hold the gun steady. Shooters at Mr. Tubb's level holds steadily enough to worry about maximizing load accuracy. But most shooters out there cannot. For them, it's much more important to work on the position than to develop loads to the nth degree. Time spent on refining the load is time NOT spent on refining and practicing the fundamentals.
The most extreme example of sling shooters not worrying about loads is Swiss 300-meter shooting, in which you are REQUIRED to shoot military-issued ammunition such as GP11. GP11 is as good as military ammo gets but it's nowhere near handloads, not to mention the fact that it's .30 caliber and packs a wallop. Yet, with this ammo, top-level Swiss shooters are able to regularly clean the 300m target, which has a 1.2-minute 10-ring and not much easier than the F-class target. This shows you just how much fundamentals matter in sling shooting.