When The Waters Rise (Part 1) - Preparing for the big flood in BC's Lower Mainland
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- When the Waters Rise is a two-part video series from 2020 that offers an overview of Fraser River and coastal flood hazards in British Columbia’s Lower Mainland, the expected impacts of a large-scale flood in the region, and opportunities for flood risk reduction:
Part 1: Preparing for the big flood in BC’s Lower Mainland
Part 2; Priorities and choices in BC’s Lower Mainland
The focus of the videos is large-scale Fraser River and coastal floods, which are the floods most likely to have widespread impacts across the Lower Mainland. Other types of flood, however, can also be serious. These include periods of heavy, sustained rainfall, such as the atmospheric rivers that resulted in the Nooksack River flooding of Sumas Prairie in November 2021,
Work continues in 2022 on a Lower Mainland Flood Management Strategy (LMFMS), with participation of governments and other organizations with flood management responsibilities or interests in the region. Participants provided input on a preliminary working draft (Draft 1) in 2021. However, more work is ahead to strengthen the initiative, ensure the full participation of First Nations and determine common strategic directions.
Some communities in the region are also working on local priorities for flood risk reduction. Check with your local government or other local authority for information on local flood plans, flood works and flood risk reduction in your community. - Věda a technologie
what an interesting time for this to show up on my YT
Yes ..why not one year ago ..Why now .. WEATHER WARFARE is here see MIKE MORALES show WIND FARMS put ELECTRICITY INTO THE ATMOSPHERE and
Right? I was saying the same thing. Ironic really.
Mine too
You need a new tinfoil hat
@@JavaThePuff if we wanted any lip from you we would undo our zippers.
Well played, CZcams algorithm.
Nov 16 2021- ace of spades ♠️
Flood plains are for floods . It's pretty simple .
*Narrator:* "Next spring the chance of a major flood is 1 in 500"
*2021:* Hold my beer
lol
So sad, my moms lives in Abby. And pretty much every in BC that is flooded I Family. Thanks for the jokes.
There'll be a 1in 500 year flood every year from now on lol.
@@bananian The one in 500 means that each year there is a chance (1 in 500) of such a flooding event.
@@gerrycoleman7290
Duh
Well this aged well.
This video was produced a year ago, went unnoticed until now.
We also made a video about this 9 months ago - specifically Sumas lake - we only got views on it in the last week.... Canadian history and climate change are hard sells until it directly affects somebody, or a group of people. Our society is more often than not reactive vs. preventative in nature.
Well, at least someone was paying attention and trying to do something about it.
Imagine more will lisren to them now eh.
Well, someone was talking about it, they had been for years. There was a cross border committee that had been created a couple decades ago to look into the options to prevent flooding in BC and in Washington. In 2012, that committee in name still existed, but they no longer held meeting/discussions. All their years of findings and recommendations were never acted upon.
So there's a lot of talk, but definitely no action. Maybe now, politicians will start to take things more seriously.
"What would a major flood look like in BC Lower Mainland" Well fuck we know now dont we? lol
Could have been worst according to models, lol
@@bananian think we're experiencing some worst case scenarios right now no doubt
@@Yielar1
This is only the beginning. It could definitely get much worst.
Strange how this video made one yr ago ..is released now ... it not Climate change but WEATHER WARFARE ..our governments are allowing homes 🏡 to burn 🔥.. 🔥 and now flooding .. HAARP DEW etc ..
@@phillyunrau4736 This was released a year ago though. Its just popular now cuz it happened lol. Its just nature.. its not government altered weather lol.. what do they stand to gain? They spend millions on fixing it
They really called it. At this point, I don't think it's a matter of if there will be another flood, but when.
Well not sure what we expect when we’re living on the floor of a lake… I always thought the sumas valley was a flood plain… not a damn lake.
It's amazing people don't know their house was built on a lake bed.
Most flooded homes were on farm land, yes people knew well, anyone applying for a building permit was told of the limitations on what they could do.
Crazy what happens when you pump a lake out amd build in the middle. Lol
1884 flood..man that climate change is crazy.
I also wonder if people know that Richmond is lower than the ocean.
@@sidharthafocus and most of that farm land IS old lake bed. this was an inevitability.
Timing is perfect.
Someone there should have consulted the gov't of the Netherlands. They do an amazing job of engineering and keeping the water out.
Ya i would say for any future rebuilding, take into account the land will flood again and build accordingly. In earthquake zones they build houses for withstanding them so make houses higher for floods (no basements?) Not sure the best plans but a new system needs to be built for the future and getting advice from there would be a great start.
The Duch have offered many times and our politicians turn away.
Ely Cathedral 1083 sits on the Isle of Ely. Now it is high ground and can be seen for miles. Same with Lincoln Cathedral. The Romans started draining the land. The Dutch drained the ‘fens’ around Cambridge England around C17 and the Victorian English put in steam pumps and finished the job. It will flood once in a while, but driving along with a canal 10m above and fields 2m below on the other side of a dead straight road is amazing! People die here from driving into the rivers, which are lower than the fields mostly. It’s massive engineering, needs maintenance and is very fertile land. As in all countries such land is great farmland. We don’t need the Dutch. We need to pay BC engineers to work on it, like the wonderful lady in the video.
This video aged well
Barrowtown pump may fail and the Fraser river will come pouring in the valley. This is the latest warning from Abby mayor. Nov.16 2021
It did fail
@@dustyn1057 - No. It didn't
@@dustyn1057 No, luckily it stayed in operation. Was saved by sand bagging efforts.
Wow called that 1 ! Well done 👏
Interesting! Glad to see at least there was some semblance of a plan.
Planning for Floods: Develop real estate on a flood plain.
Have lots of luncheon meetings about flooding on flood plains.
Wait for a flood and have more luncheons and pin it on climate change.
Rinse repeat.
Waiting for the 2022 sequel. Ought to be some interesting cards dealt after Sumas flooding.
if the americans cleaned out and managed the nook, sumas would not be at risk of 10 feet of water right now
They should build an emergency overflow pipe that directly dumps flow into the Fraser instead of relying on the pump.
Thats the plan ITS ALL IN THE GLOBALIST MASTER PLAN.
@@smokenbudesq put the pipe down
@@bananian - What needs to happen even more, is for Washington State to build a new channel from the Nooksack River down to the Pacific Ocean, with a huge dam at the Southern end of the channel, so when water levels get high, the massive dam can be opened up and the excess water can flow right into the ocean, instead of flowing north, in the channels between the mountain valleys that slope north to Sumas Prairie.
This would be an enormous undertaking and come at a great cost. For that reason, I don't see a necessary, international solution being reached. Local, provincial and federal taxpayers in Canada already have way more than enough infrastructure that needs to be paid for on our side, so having Washington request that Canada foot the bill on their side of the border (like we did for the new Detroit/Windsor Bridge) is not reasonable, but I think Washington would demand we pay for it anyway with the threat of doing little or nothing at all if we don't.
I just learned that the most flooded area in BC is below sea level and was formerly a lake Lake Dumas, and the flooded area is exactly where the lake USED to be so given that in this era of extreme weather and climate change ,how wise would it be to rebuild on a lake bed below sea level?
Not wise.
I would think they have some pondering about their future with the catastrophic weather.
But do you like food cuz that's where a majority of lower mainland crops are grown. Not wise no but should we start farming on your rich mountain land then?
Yeah, it was a lake called "Lake Sumas" - they drained it to make more farmland. The lake was huge and they should have just left it be a lake.
What did they grow there before the lake reappeared? I think it's past time to encourage people to at least grow their own vegetables at home. We turned our pantry into an indoor, year-round greenhouse using inexpensive LED lighting. Lettuces, spinach, kale, collard greens, green onions, parsley, cilantro, basil, and cherry tomatoes. No need to drain an entire lake, either.
Home prices should plunge in BC.
Realty should reflect the "working" class earnings in BC.
Lower home prices for the people of the land.
No more realty for profit in BC.
Affordable homes for our citizen, Now
That's not how free market works. Need more supply to reduce costs
@@Yielar1 Yeah free market capitalism is the best system, if you don't care about people.
Sounds like someone doesn't know how markets work. They go up and down based on a number of variables including supply and demand. If you don't like it you should try North Korea. Their system may be more what you're looking for
BC will never go down into reasoable affordabilty. If it did Canadians all across the country all the way to Newfoundland would all head to BC. And ka - boom the prices rise again. There is no chance in anyones lifetime that BC becomes affordable. Floods don't help ok.
Looks like we got dealt that flush.
As a geophysicist I cringe at development in the Fraser River region. An inevitable earthquake and the resulting liquefaction is going to obliterate the area. You ‘ain’t seen nuthin’ yet.
Yup, that's what happens when you build on a river delta.
Flood plain=cheap land for concrete buildings. Big river delta systems=Flooding. Even as I write this JCB’s are gouging out land for new houses and roads next to River Severn in UK. They are calling it Pear Tree Fields. Cute name. But maybe they shoulda left the pear trees where they were..
I think they are building houses, under the Lions Gate bridge ... on some newly formed sandbars. (I'm not jesting either)
I wonder what they named the streets? Quick Sand road?
2021 sends its regards
indeed
This should have gotten more attention, but Bonny Henry had everyone worried about Covid-19 and even if there had been projects to address this issue, she would have shut them down over a single Covid case.
I was in the 2021 Flood and it had more to do with the Nooksack River but it was also affected by high levels of the Fraser River stopping the Flood gates from the Sumas Prairie side
don’t forget part 2
We made something similar not long after about the hypothetical failure of Barrowtown pump stations... It's on our page. It's almost like this is predictable by looking at models, past incidents, and the natural place mother nature wishes to be.
this video is *chefs kiss*
Aged like a fine wine
Reminds me of USGS ARKStorm scenarios developed for California.
Looking at the current damage from the Atmospheric River; BC is having a historic flooding event like those outlined in this video.
They should have seeded the clouds before it hits the Fraser valley IMO.
A city built on a drained lake..... floods.... what a surprise...
If managers follow a logical plan a lot of the flooding adverse impacts can be avoided. Valley floor------agriculture, foothills------town, uplands-------timber production.
Is basically EXACTLY how Abbotsford is layed out except ya people live in the farmland cuz they don't wanna be crammed up in the foothills with the sheeple.
@@SuperSalad7 it WEATHER WARFARE see MIKE MORALES show WIND FARMS put ELECTRICITY INTO THE ATMOSPHERE and flatearth101 is real ..
I would like to download a copy of that flood map online. Do you have a link available?
One in Five Hundred odds and we get lucky in the most unlucky way. :(
wow just came across this n I live in mission. when we had the snowfall n then floods n highways falling apart n Abbotsford n so many places. Once that rain came the floods were many n much damage to lots everywhere. I see this video now n going to watch part 2 now
Too little too late "Regional flood authorities"
Loool who would of thought that the city of delta was called that because it's was build on an old river delta ?
The views r coming in noww
What a fantistic prediction!
"so, we should prepare for the big flood.""
"what's the rush, bro? it won't happen for 50 years.""
the very next year: "oops!"
I love how this report ignores that major floods occurred fifty years apart with minor floods in between when they talk about the risk by 2100. Bureaucracy created by those not affected paid for by those most affected.
And a year later the 1 in 500 year flood nails B.C.
only if CZcams could recommand this a year earlier
Need backup power generators at Barrowtown
And a wall at the border to keep the Nooksack river out
Apparently never learned anything in 1990. Still all talk and no action
Think if the billion was spent on that pro action rather than this year’s reaction
But people will still say no one warned them even though they live on a old lake bed lol.
I always thought it's crazy people would build on floodplains. I thought maybe it's an old floodplain that doesn't flood anymore, lol.
Is the Still Creek region influenced by this? Same with Burnaby Lake, Trout Lake, and the lakes in Van Dusen Gardens etc...?
NO JUST THE OLD LAKE BED
We build cities on floodplain then we're surprised when the inevitable happens. I'm not even upset. Let mother nature do her worst so we learn our lessons.
Id like to know where this plan is right about now
Good job everyone 👍🤦
Well that didn't take long. It is going to get worse before it gets better but hey, keep building those pipelines on unceded lands
My thoughts are..........they knew about this a year ago and now the lower mainland is flooded out worse than the 1894 flooding and they never did anything about it
Look at all the houses built on side of the hills in the Fraser valley they are the smart ones
The cost to fix would be a fraction of what they quote… if they could manage the (nepotism, kickbacks & pork barrel spending our trusted leaders routinely commit) FRAUD, WASTE & ABUSE like us common/normal people! I’m Fed up with all the graft & backroom deals!
Gosh did this just show up in my home page?? This is unbelievable. It's happening now.
YES BETTER PROPAGANDA.
3:22 - I guess we need more sent to BC
How prophetic to a few days ago.
Search Term Mastery LVL 1; "managed atmospheric rivers" , as opposed to "natural atmospheric rivers". Questions, who manages them, and to what end.
well my house is lake front property now... what else does the 2020's have in store?
If you would have read the Book of Genesis, chapters 5-9 you would know that it is bound to happen.
@@rickvervoort9536 LOL why would i read terrible fiction?
@@rickvervoort9536 more floods?
@@logicalatheist1065 Terrible fiction is happening before your very eyes and yet you deny it. What will it take?
@@rickvervoort9536 yeah a local flood, they happen, it doesn't confirm anything you may think it does. It's a natural event, mostly because of climate change
7:50 well said lol most were built in the 70's and 80's
Interesting we knew this was coming! ..................Did we do enough to prevent this in Nov. 2021? Most likely not!!???
This aged...well.
Flood mitigation has limits.
Flooding will Forever be part of Canadian life .. Canada has extensive waterways .. like Any country there is Always good with bad but humans can only hold back Natures reclamation for so long .. She will Not be Played with ....
Guess they didn't prepare.
They never do
Are you prepared?
Good thing they acted swiftly after this video came out last year. 👀
Govt getting together to solve problems = nothing
Today is Nov. 15, 2021, and it's raining everywhere, heavily. Did the flood plans work?
No
@@harmanaulakh7529, oh well, better luck next time (maybe they're not paying enough carbon tax ;-)
D.U.M.B.S cleaned out by military White Hats. On Whiplash, Telegram. Good bye, tunnels to traffic our children! Welcome to the new World
William, current and future flooding will be worse as the worlds oceans heat up from climate change. Heat content is adding up to 5 thermal nuclear bombs per second globally!
@@LK-pc4sq, heat rises. How the F will that heat up the oceans? You guys still using that BC bud?
Timely...
But they are shocked this year....
Not expected.
Last major flood was 35 years ago, they are still working on the report for that. If this is NOT a failure of the gov, I don't know what is
Climat change , of course ...🤔
that,s what i say climate change no shit
wonder how many views of this in the last 3-4 days.
Build a community in a old lake bed... Then people are puzzled when it floods
Well...
What had to happen, well we are in FLOODS, Sumas
Greetings Kelly how do I get a hold of you I have some questions for you I remember you I wanted to know if you still remember me
What happen to 500 years
The flood plains yes, but what about the coquihalla. Those bridges and hyws are much higher than the flood plain.
Clearcutting and massive forest fires. The back country is being raped of trees.
“Chance of major floods is 1 in 500”
God: How major are we talking?
The odds are now 1 in 1. Oops
Lol, good work
is this the part where i can say "aged like milk"?
No it's the exact opposite, since video predicted potential flooding which happened. So it aged well..
@@anthonyc7279 like wine? but the video was made just last year
Was anyone prepared?
Well this aged well
Sure, bring it on. I am fed up. Give me the hard-core forking.
They will need to start building their homes and businesses on stilts.
How can anthropogenic climate change be blamed when there was a major flood in the 19th century.
maybe this is something that happened every year from now on so that is 1 in 1 year!
I have to wonder where the money was going to come from for this physical infrastructure in the 2020 plan? Billions and billions on highways and bridges like the Sea to Sky and billions more for light rapid transit expansion now the planers are going to spend twice as much now repairing existing infrastructure then dealing with the root cause of the flooding.
Makes you wonder where all those Billions in B.C. carbon taxes have been spent the last 15 years. Talk about a money laundering scam!
This isn't a flood plain, this is a lake bed trying to restore itself. Mother Nature will always win. Restore the lake and move on, learn from the mistakes.
its a flood plain from hope b.c. west, because there is a small shallow lake 50 k from hope does not change the fact.
Wow. This is timely... (kidding/not kidding)
Weather Warfare is alive ALL STAGED ..
@@phillyunrau4736 it's a youtube algorithm that gives you similar content...?.
It originally aired a year ago. I think my point is.. if we listened to the scientists when they say there's trouble coming...
@@angrymuppet4209 well they know when trouble is coming bcz they create the Big storms etc ..with Chem trials HAARP and DEW see MIKE MORALES show WIND FARMS put ELECTRICITY INTO THE ATMOSPHERE and
No thanks. Have a nice day. 🙂
Well, I guess the past few days has thrown all of these hypothesis out the window. Back to the drawing board folks or time to move to higher ground.
0:39, could
The entire area IS a delta!!!! To expect anything less than a flood every winter / spring should be insane!!!
Deltas flood, they ARE a flood plain that is what they do because they are below sea level and winter water always rises in a temperate rain forest.
Fairy lake in the Port renfrew area is also on a delta, tidal fed rivers contribute to the water levels, we have measured 126 feet from summer ground level, completely engulfing fairy lake under water.
Now I am sorry you build your house on a flood plain, but I don't believe insurance should cover this kind of stupidity...as this was bound to happen sooner or later
I agree these places aren't meant to be livable long term it will eventually back fire sooner or later
They had to have 3 pumping stations that pump out water 24/7-365 days a year....the stations are over 60 years old and had been failing in the 80's and 90's. The government offered every family $$$ to relocate, either used to buy a new house, or jack up the one you have znd move it...3 of my neighbors moved as did my husband and I. Anyone that stayed was told IF and WHEN the pumping stations fail, this entire area WILL BE UNDER WATER, and there will be no compensation - also nullifies their insurance as this was no act of God
Well, this has aged well. :(
Wonder what flood insurance will be like when this is over?
It will be like carbon taxes. Never ending and always increasing.
So what was done? Apparently nothing.
what if what happened was manufactured?