A Taste of the FUTURE for Electric Bikes? Engwe P275 Pro Review
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- A Taste of the FUTURE for Bikes and Ebikes? Engwe P275 Pro Review
This is the Engwe P275 Pro electric bike. An amazingly clever electric bike that actually has automatic shifting gears from BAFANG. Paired with a torque sensor and a Bafang M200 mid-drive motor, is this the future of electric bikes? Let's find out.
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Would you ride an automatic Ebike? Links to reviews of my favourite ebikes are in the description below.
Oh yeah. An auto would be awesome!
Oo ok looooo😊o😊llo lol ooooool😊@@kevinburke1325
No,not really!!! Seems very boring!!!😮
@@rexluminus9867 to you maybe.
@@rexluminus9867 I guess if you don't like going as fast as a roller coaster.
Not for me. I like to change gear when i want to. Peoples cadence is different for each rider and an auto takes that away.
Yeah it really could do with adjustable settings to have it shift sooner or later but it's a nice idea.
Would like to see an updated review if an unlock is forth coming...
Gr8 Vid as always.
Weird!! I have just been for a bike round JLR, the Canal and up to the Concrete hill. So I come back home put CZcams on and the first thing that pops up is your vid ( never seen your podcast before)and your cycling around Fordhouses past my house. So strange coincidence.. anway I've subscribed..good reviews!😊
Wow that's crazy 🤣👍
Your description for the sensor at 1:30 is incorrect. That sensor monitors the wheel speed for your LCD Display & does not have any effect on the hub shifting gears. The gear shifting takes place due to centrifugal force releasing shift pawls in the hub to engage the next level of the 3 available gears.
you are correct it needs a gear hold or a choice , you need a faster cadence for hills with a mid motor , this one looks to slow a cadence and is going to make you slog up the hills , not good if you are not fit or disabled in some way .
Wow this is impressive! Fantastic review my friend
Cheers! Yeah it's cool what they can do.
Another excellent video. It's a fair review and it would irritate me nothing being able to choose my choice of gear. My only feedback is that this video was longer than needed as some point were repeteated. I like special fx analogy 👍
Cheers. And fair point re length. I think when I feel I've been a bit negative I need to remind people of the good points when I probably don't need to.
*We want the Future NOWWW!*
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I really like belt drive, since I do not like chain grease 😭👌🏽
Woah, auto-gear shift 😲🔥
I'd rather bright wheel rims than bright battery.
Could have been a lot better in design implementation
Yeah it's a cool idea. And yeah nice bright rims would be 👌👌
An excellent review of a very interesting ebike. The implemented combination of mid drive, automatic gears and torque sensor does seem somewhat counter-intuitive in that it makes you put in more effort than a normal ebike.
Thanks. Yeah it's an odd one. Really nice below 16 but not so nice above 20.
I wonder how many people under the age of 30 watching this video went online to look for the T1000 E bike 😂😂🤣🤖🦾🦿
You wouldn't want one of those when the AI becomes self aware!
I love your channel!
What would you say the best budget ebike is at the moment? For let's say around €1000.
It's probably a no from me, 'cos I'm too lazy & worry about real pedaling. I gave that stuff up in my nineties!
Interesting review and well done at conveying how it felt to ride it.
Just get a normal light cheap road bike if you're pedalling all the time.
Looks like this bike was made for the Boys in Lycra that go out on Sunday.
Sorry we don’t ride electric mopeds not that lazy
Nah they just block the roads .
This is exactly the reason why the 15.5mph limit is stupid.
and the exact reason why an increasing number of cyclists are ignoring it .
Pity they couldn't have incorporated something like the Sturmey Archer 3spd hub gears. Just to give you some sort of manual selection.
That would be cool
I prefer self build, all shop bought seem restricted. Not sure about auto though. That loss of torque means more work for motor and eat through battery quicker.
I wish they
did this design with the 9 speed, i like a toptube.
Yeah the 9 speed seems like it would work better
There are a few automatic gearboxes on the market now. The others i know of have adjustment on them. Two screws.. nothing on the bafang?
According to Engwe there's no adjustment 😥
@@e-VRC you at euro bike?
Automatic shifting wiggly power is nothing new. I can’t be the only one to remember the Autobike! :-) Years later Shimano had a system that did that too.
you seem to shocked a bicycle that should be limited at 25km/h in support really does that.... maybe you should get the 45km version. I assume on a 45km version the gears will be setup differently. The enviolo automatiq allows you to manually shift if you want but also set it up not to 'stop' at 25km. hope bafang works on sounds like version one just misses alot on control to match what people want on a personal level.
Good vid but what were they thinking with that battery placement ?😢
I think the orange makes it look weird but in practise it works pretty well. Helped by the adjustable saddle.
I would paint over that ugly ass orange 🍊 battery cover!!!😮.
It's not a really good sistem for me.😢.
I prefer to shift when I'm ready. My Lectric XP 3.0 has spoiled me regarding the amount of work I'm doing on the bike Ride. I like a throttle for easy no effort starts, and I can slow ghost pedal at speed of 28 mph to defeat the 20 mph limit for throttle limit. Nice idea though!
I think we have similar ideals 👍
It seems like a great city bike to me. Maybe not so much if you don’t feel like putting the effort in.
Agreed. Little effort up to 16 but a lot of people want to go faster.
Centrifugal?? Gears
It was forcing you to pedal at a slower rate than most mid-drive e-bikes are tuned to be efficient at.
Auto bikes are not new. I have a Shimano Steps Raleigh Strada which I purchased in 2017. It has a Di2 rear hub and can be ridden in manual or fully auto. The gear change, in auto, is dependant on speed and cadence and can be adjusted on the headset. In manual it's just a press up or down on a rocker switch.
Nice, just been reading about it. Cool system👍
Iv heard not great things about engwe or whatever its called
What have you heard?
I just don't see myself buying a bike with a special frame integrated motor, and battery. I like the ability to replace mine with any mid drive motor and correct voltage battery and not being forced to pay double for a brand specific sized garbage that may not even be in production 5 years later. In 5 years I'm probably going to be upgrading to a solid state battery without buying a whole new bike.
I think this mid drive motor is pretty standard size but you may be right about the battery.
nice looking bike…😂 looks like an old swiss military bike with an orange tornister for the 1957 “ sturmgewehr” - gun..😂
? Harley davidson do automatic transmission on their ebike, I found, if you stop pedalling it changes down, which means your little legs wiz around to keep up. J.
It's made by enviolo. But they cheaped out and Harley didn't include the cadence adjustment in their bike software, so it's done via an app. One of many reasons these failed on sales.
not sure what they did but thats not normal. if they used the enviolo automatiq controlled by for example the bosh system it should never change peddle speed but stay constant. so it never should move down in gears if you stop peddling but still go say 20km/h. I use it on a riese and muller ebike and its a very comfy ride did about 13000+ in last 18months on it. This bafang sounds more like a cheap version of the rohlof 14e.
What were they thinking with that battery colour.. probably lose 90% of sales
Yeah it's a bit odd but luckily there is a plain black one.
I want to sit at 15 mph not pedalling
We desperately need the law to be changed to allow motor assistance up to 20mph.
Great review but the bike is forcing ridiculously slow cadence on the rider. You sounded quite breathless with such high pedal resistance. It would probably ruin your knees in the long term.
Yeah I was really annoying. I said I was like being on a gyp stepper on level 1 but I cut it as the vid was too long.
agreed nice that bafang now adds a gearing system but they should really add some software to set a 'stable' or at least semi stable peddle speed its important but that would be easier with say 6 or 8 gears inside or a fully continuous gear system. Hope they will work on that since we need more cvt like systems. cadence should be able to be set by preference say between 50 and 100. most people would be best at 65 or 70... i ride on 65 myself.
Legal limit sucks .
Ugh! Looks nice except for that ugly orange battery holder advertising that it's an eBike for any bike thieves and haters to focus on. But I want to select my gears and assist levels for myself.
It does come in plain black fortunately. And yeah me too.
with the law chang to500w some 3monthsd ago... you'd think they would have changed it .. oh well on word and up..
Nice town bike, but not for me. Many better options for a similar price available.
Fair comment. Dunno if you got to that part but the Hey bike ec1 is a great cheaper alternative
Having spent the last few days looking at ebike reviews I've reached a striking conclusion
No reviewer ever says 'don't buy this bike, buy bike' x' instead.
I can't help wondering if this might be down to the ever present 'affiliate links' in video description. 😂.
That doesn't make sense since surely bike X will have affiliate links too?
I was waiting for you to say 'apart from you'. Did I not say the combination doesn't work and if you want to go fast easy and legal, check out the Hey bike ec-1?
Also I've said 'don't buy this bike' about the Hidoes something or other and the Bezior something or other.
The future of e-bikes is registration and insurance.
Nice bike but the laws made it worthless as an e-bike.
No speed unlock no buy
Had to turn this off at 4:30. Because the load of bollocks is insane.
First off, it's a paid ad, so disclose it.
Second, the future of e-bikes? Mate, have you been under a rock for the past 20 years? Automatic gears have been a thing on mechanical bikes for ages. They never worked well, but they existed. Now, the automated hubs have motors, so you actually have a choice of gears instead of being forced into a weird cadence as an addition to the automatic features. Look into things like Alfine, Rohloff, 3x3, or the most common, Enviolo.
Third, the Gates Belt Drive is mostly found on geared bikes. It's just that the gears are actually in the hub (surprise) or a gearbox in the middle. Again, this has been around for 10+ years.
Fourth, because the shitty Bafang finally decided to come 10 years closer to everyone else, it doesn't mean it's a leap into the future. It's more like an awakening from the stalemate they've been in for 20 years.
These pseudo bike reviews from people who literally clearly know nothing about the tech industry or bikes.
Why the fuck youtube served me this?
Well done for knowing lots about bikes. About the future...you realise it was meant to be a question to make people discuss? Like you're doing but in a nicer way. Also by turning off when you did you missed the bit where I moan about it and say that I didn't really like it. Stupid move if it's an ad. They sent the bike for review and unlike some brands Engwe have always been fine with me being negative when the bike deserves it.
I reviewed the Hidoes B10 negatively and they asked me to take down the video. I didn't. And of course I didn't convince anyone to buy it.
It's a review about a bike on the budget (albeit expensive end of budget) end of the spectrum at the end of the day. I'm comparing it to budget ebikes. And in the budget world, brands like Bafang are better than the no name stuff you get on other budget bikes. This auto system was interesting to me hence the title question that made you click. But trust me it wasn't a positive review and I expect to make no affiliate sales. But the link is there just in case.
I watch other reviews of bikes and the amount of reviewers that are obviously just trying to sell the bike no matter what really pisses me off. Probably more than it annoys you. Because I'm actually losing out on the opportunity to review bikes because of it and those other reviewers will also make more commission than me. But I feel for long term success, being honest is the best policy.
So yeah, I may not be a bike expert (guilty) but I know a decent amount about cheapo bikes. I'll continue to (try to) use titles that make people click as long as the video backs it up so it's not just click bait. If you don't like it that's ok. Just ask CZcams to hide me from you. But don't accuse me of making ads without watching the whole video and knowing nothing about the channel. Who am I kidding, this is the internet. Accuse me as much as you like 😅😂. I'm sure you're a good dude though so no hard feelings 👍🤟
🤔 Hmm, an e-bike is supposed to help, not hinder, which is what this bike seems to do. I'm afraid I'd spend my hard-earned money on something else. 🙂↔️👎
It helps up to 15 but yeah if you want to go over 20 it's a bit of a slog unlike on The EC1 I mentioned.
Nope, 3 gears won't do, even on an electric. And the yellow bar is awfull, it screams "Still this e-bike"
Trouble is, none of these UK bikes will carry a heavy person.
You mean the motors are too weak? Or the frames?
sure they can my riese and muller takes 160kg / 350lbs it uses a 85nm motor. both bosch and bafang say their motors are 250watts but really the cx and m400 line are more 600-700watts. they are really speed limited to 25km/h not watts in reality as he found out most european 'aimed' ebikes really do limit with a small curve starting at 25km. Its a bicycle with assistance not a scooter wannabe. Max weight is mostly a issue not for the frame but peddles, seat and wheels really...
@@dutchbicyclerides-ss1ko the frame, wheels and pedals are absolutely fine. The issue is in UK we have very big hills, not like Holland. If a heavy rider attempts a big hill with just 250w, they will not reach the top without a huge amount of pedal force. I agree that your bikes may be sufficient in a flat area but certainly not in parts of UK, therefore making them unusable.
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Chris Fisher
Readolds 753 master frame builder.
@@g7eit I won't argue too much here just telling you what some brands switch out between the 'normal' and 'heavy rider' versions at times but it depends on the frame to begin with. People mostly assume its the frame and in many cases its not the weakest point. I do agree that the m200 here is not as strong as the m400 line both rated at 250watts but really the m400 is way more and we all know it. The limit is on speed not watts. Also feel this gearing system needs work to really get it smooth and over a bigger speed range 3 doesn't sound like enough to me. On hills and wind i do agree esp. a fully automatic system is more at home in some areas of the world or cities but i also find many people don't factor in the dutch winds (what we call the dutch mountains) if you look at where the watts go and esp. our more upright riding style you will see its effects are almost as bad as some hills. But if hills where my daily drive i would probably go with a rohloff 14e. But its great we are getting more options here i think the motor control + smart gearing is a area that can grow much in the next few years.
But..... the battery just screams UGLY !
It ain't got no alibi
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