@@jonathanwpressman That was one of the best parts of the show, the uneasy alliance gave way to genuine friendship. Eric tried to save Bill when he was taken over by Lilith.
I screamed-laughed when she said "I refuse to be retired like a fat first wife!" and choked on my wine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 And watching Eric on his knees with a bucket of water and a scrub brush cleaning up the slime that was Nan afterward...I rewound it several times and literally rolled around on the floor screaming! To watch such an almost perfect vampire doing such an ordinary, nasty thing was too much for me to bear.
Once those guards were dead and their weapons rendered useless Nan was dead whether Bill staked her right then or not. Eric most likely could have taken Nan in a straight up fight as he was older and Bill was no pushover. Plus 2 on 1 she stood no chance against those two.
Nan came with just three human guards and thought she'd walk out of openly insulting two vampires wildly more powerful and emotionally triggered than her? She had it comin.
Yeah ikr and then killing her really didn’t even matter because they ended up joining the same ppl she was talking about. I real waste in my opinion. Nan could’ve easily been in Season 5 during the whole Vampire authority storyline.
A stylistic choice that was a mistake in True Blood in my opinion was how immediate death is when staked. Just giving a few seconds would make it so much better, Nan at 816 years old having the look of realisation that she was going to die would have been so much better than a gooey explosion
I wish this had gone another way. Nan was a great character, it would have been cool to see her kick Bills ass since she was about 8 times his age. She should have caught that stake and given it back to him. I hated bible thumping Bill in the next season. He was nauseating.
In a straight up fight Nan would have killed Bill most likely. She’s got around 650 years on him. But this wasn’t a straight up fight and Nan had completely lost her cool. Eric had just slaughtered her “gay stormtroopers” and would have been the favorite in a fight vs Nan and Bill was just waiting for the moment to strike once Nan mentioned Sookie. Furthermore, vampire fights are never as clean cut as the older vampire always wins. There’s the element of surprise. There is strategy. There is thinking to every fight. A 1 year old vampire would have a .001% chance against Godrick. But there is always a chance.
Age makes them stronger but it didn't necessarily make them good at fighting. All weve really seen Nan do is act like a politician and stay in the company of her "gay storm troopers" throughout the shoe to demonstrate to the audience that she's 1. An important political figure and 2. Hard to get alone and always protected. It's never implied that she is a warrior or good at fighting and vampires have be taught to fight just like humans do. just bc she's old an vampires are strong doesn't make her a good fighter. So as might as I like your well thought out analysis of the scene I would just like to point out that there's no evidence ever given in the shoe fjshshe csnnfigfbsnd sikd have if coukdjsbe doing bukkcofndjmduc. I think the fact that bill killed her and not Eric dbn showcases thr fsct that she's not s ghrsggkdkfjfknd kc them physically. If there was a chance of her killing bil Eric would have taken her out when he took out her guards. She didn't even try to fight back when they killrd her guads, she just started to bitch like usual bc that washer thing .. talking and being narcissistic and too arrogant to realize she was even in danger. she didn't think they'd ever touch her bc she thought she was too important to be touched in the the first place lol. She was use to running her mouth and begging away with it.
There was literally no evidence ever put forth in the show to suggest she could fight it defend herself, only the opposite ...(hence the guards). That was my impressions least. I don't think she stood a chance. If she was even the slightest but of a threat they would have had the 1000 year old vampire kill her not bill lol
@@neillscott4192 did you see the way they exchanged glances and looked at her and the guards ? It was def planned but both of them... Eric distracted her long enough for bill to stake her. Idk if it was even a matter of strength Nan was just stupid for falling into their trap exactly the way they expected her to but to each their own.
the "fat first wife" line is in reference to when King Henry VIII divorced his first wife......Queen Catherine of Aragon (who wasn't exactly attractive).....her "retirement" was necessary for him to marry Anne Boleyn
That's not historically true. The reason that Henry divorced her was because she was sickly and the children that she bore were sickly. Catherine was pregnant at least six times and the only healthy child that she had was the future Queen Mary. She had at least two still-born children, the others died as newborns. Henry wanted to secure a male heir. Anne Boleyn was half Catherine's age and she was apparently very beautiful, so it was a good choice. It is believed by some that Henry started losing the "lead in his pencil" in his early 40's, or possibly even a little earlier. Seeing that happen, he may have been desperate for an heir, which he thought he could get with Anne; and he did. Prince Edward was the last child of King Henry.
Hazel Correct, my mistake. She actually died giving birth to Edward, didn't see? Her tenure as Queen was so short that I had actually forgotten. The logic still holds though. She was a little younger even than Anne was, and Henry was growing desperate for a male heir due to his advancing years. That was the reason that he left Catherine.
I think the original poster made a tenuous speculation and wrongly expressed it as statement of fact. The 'first wife' trope is as old as the concept of marriage is. It could have been a reference to any one particular example, or none at all. There is nothing specific to indicate it was meant as a reference to Henry VIII.
Hazel Agreed. People often forget that until about 40-50 years ago; women who birthed at least one or two children usually put on weight and kept it on.
I never got how eric and especially Godric were just sherriff's when they were older than Sophie Ann the former Queen and Nan. Bill was younger but Eric was about 1000 while Godric was over 2000.
Sheriffs & Monarchs weren’t chosen by age alone, I read certain actions/accomplishments were the number 1 thing the authority went by when picking them.
It was about will they had no intention of playing politics thats all, so while they had the power and brute force and strength to borderline rule the entire vampire world, they also had no real desire or will to do so politically speaking.
I mean, I didn't like the last season, but this is legit. She looked at what's happening behind her (Eric killing the soldiers) and Bill surprised her...
Well....The main villain in that season was Russel along side with that shitty lilith religion of theirs... and they had a hard time getting rid of it. plus the element of surprise is always a good tactic xD
how did Bill manage to kill Nan Flannigan? According to Nan she's 816 years old, while Bill is merely over a hundred. In True Blood lore, the older a vampire gets the faster and more powerful they were, that's why it's almost impossible for any vampire to go up against old vampires like Godric or Russell Edgington who are thousands of years old.
My biggest issue with this show was that the writers always made the Vampires God-like (plot armor) like they were untouchable and could never be defeated, unless defeated by another fellow vampire. Yet, you had powerful witches that were always portrayed as weak and fearful of vampires, deities of actual Gods that were somehow defeated by vampires (or werewolves), fairies with supposedly powerful magic that were easily hunted and killed by vampires, etc. Maybe to a 15 - 21 year old watching the show, not noticing the dynamic, were most likely impressed by this. But as someone that actually understands the folklore, I just felt the show was incredibly unbalanced. I mean, the show should have rightfully been called “VAMPIRES, and The True Blood.” That would have made more sense 🤦🏼♂️
believe me it's amazing! season one was annoying and kind of cringe worthy... the acting well kind of get better in the second season and the show will get much better, for me season1 and season6 were the worst :/
I think fast always looks better anyways. Even with good CGI in shows, when you see every single frame of a death, mutation or explosion it makes it look really fake because thats not how these things happen irl, they're pretty quick. But some animators wanna have it be admired and the detail seen but it just makes it look worse
Bill is fucking strong...Eric is way more older and powerful and his skills as a viking Prince makes him a walking killing machine,Nan dug her own grave the second she walked to that door.
![Alexander Skarsgård - True Blood 02.09 I will Rise Up (3/4) [Godric takes the Blame]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4_8Vzjxv8rY/mqdefault.jpg)
If I were alive more than 800 years, I would hopefully learn what not to say.
She was a woman...so...
Love your work with Jay and Silent Bob, btw
I really wish Bill and Eric cooperated more throughout the series. I love seeing them work together.
Indeed.they make a great team
I agree with both of you 😏
They kinda did didn't they?
At the end of it all bill was Eric’s best friend and vice versa only problem was soookie grabbing them both by the balls and letting their egos in way
If only Nan hadn't brought up Sookie. You just knew she was dead when she let them know that they both have a soft spot for Sookie.
Kris Bland Sookie can go to hell. Sookie is the reason people die risking their lives her. Fuck Sookie.
@@edgar22452 thank you I agree
@@edgar22452 oh come on but you have to admit she is kind of hot with a great little body on her.
@@mark45xxx83 Jessica is way more hot.
@@edgar22452 lol you ant never lied.
I love that Bill included Eric when he said "We are not fucking puppy dogs" He could've just as easily said "I"
Nan was dissin both of them
they are homies whether or not they admit it
@@jonathanwpressman That was one of the best parts of the show, the uneasy alliance gave way to genuine friendship. Eric tried to save Bill when he was taken over by Lilith.
@@jonathanwpressman facts
Vamps before Tramps
"What a bitch.". I fucking love Eric. His comic timing was masterful.
"WE'RE NOT FUCKING PUPPY DOGS!" Yes Bill sir, I believe you! 0_0
LOL Eric is so boss at the end..."What a bitch..."
She seriously overplayed her hand here 😂😂😂
seriously , she's all like "i'm 800 years" can't she see the 2000 yo viking vampire standing in front of her ? girl bye
Actually Eric was a 1000 yrs old...
@eglantinepapeau1582 900 something
@@thehellenicneopagan900 something and godrick was like 2300
"why bother? when your tongue's already so far up his ass" that right there was the best line, i love Nan!
ethereal you (loved) NaN
Ding dong the witch is dead yippee
😏
Oh, My God! First time I saw a scene with them both working together where they both seemed smoothly on the same page. Well done.
"I have been alive for 816 years. I refuse to be retired like a fat first wife!"
🤭😄😄😁😂🤣
I've been waiting for this since she fired Godric >:(
Kitty Kat Well even though he. would have easily killed her...
I screamed-laughed when she said "I refuse to be retired like a fat first wife!" and choked on my wine 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
And watching Eric on his knees with a bucket of water and a scrub brush cleaning up the slime that was Nan afterward...I rewound it several times and literally rolled around on the floor screaming! To watch such an almost perfect vampire doing such an ordinary, nasty thing was too much for me to bear.
Shame what became of the show though.
Meri and Janelle felt that #sisterwives
I refuse to be retired like a fat first wife XD
Nan seriously had it coming. She was way too stubborn and put everyone in danger when she wouldn't call off 'The Festival of Tolerance'.
"Hi, Nan... and gay stormtroopers" im on the floor
Hi Nan...and gay storm troopers....
Had me rolling. 😂😂
Vampire dry cleaning bills must be murder.
Honestly I thought Eric would be the one to bring true death on Flannigan. LMAO
It would have made a lot more sense within the series lore. She's like 4x older than Bill and should have been able to ragdoll him
@@seandlax9, what, she's Tyson Fury now?
@@seandlax9it was a surprise attack. also it was established bill was unusually strong for his age , stated by bill infact
Whenever Bill and Eric team up, you know someone big is going down.
Eric: "What a bitch..."
Me: "Indeed..."
Damnnnnnn I miss True Blood
You’d assume a vampire as old as Nan would know when to stfu.
Once those guards were dead and their weapons rendered useless Nan was dead whether Bill staked her right then or not. Eric most likely could have taken Nan in a straight up fight as he was older and Bill was no pushover. Plus 2 on 1 she stood no chance against those two.
Nan came with just three human guards and thought she'd walk out of openly insulting two vampires wildly more powerful and emotionally triggered than her? She had it comin.
She would have lived if she just stopped before the Sookie stuff. Eric and Bill almost looked like they would have gone with her
Very true, she needed allies lol 😂🤣😅🤗
Loved this scene ecspecially the part where bill say were not fuckin puppy dogs
This scene actually surprised me.. in a sad way. I really liked her character, and wished they had allied.
Yeah ikr and then killing her really didn’t even matter because they ended up joining the same ppl she was talking about. I real waste in my opinion. Nan could’ve easily been in Season 5 during the whole Vampire authority storyline.
Nan was 816 years old. She lived long enough. Lol
@@empyrean196 Hahahah, a terrible loss.
"Hungry puppy dogs" OOOOOOOH she had it coming.
She was doing good until Sookie😄
Mmmeeehh , then she BOOM !!!!!!!!!!!! nothing left if her only her blood on bill Compton face
Yeah that signed her death warrant right there.
"What a bitch" supersedes that.
A stylistic choice that was a mistake in True Blood in my opinion was how immediate death is when staked. Just giving a few seconds would make it so much better, Nan at 816 years old having the look of realisation that she was going to die would have been so much better than a gooey explosion
I personally thought this show went off the rails!! Buffy would’ve had a field day cleaning it up!!
Buffy was gay propaganda so was this.
@@HungarianRepublic Yeah sure cupcake!!
I miss true blood.
LOVE THIS SCENE
The number of times these actors get drenched in "true death" blood.....aargghh the poor things. Happens so often
it's why showers were invented!
In hindsight she was the smartest person in the show. It's a shame Allen ball killed her...
She should've never threatened to hurt Sookie. That's what got her killed.
Bill reminds me of Angel while Eric reminds me of Spike
🙄
And especially here in that office. Its like Angel and Spike at WolfRamHeart.
Not one of these characters is remotely like any of the others.
What got Nan killed was when she revealed the sookie was a fairy.
I wish this had gone another way. Nan was a great character, it would have been cool to see her kick Bills ass since she was about 8 times his age. She should have caught that stake and given it back to him. I hated bible thumping Bill in the next season. He was nauseating.
She was fixated on the 1000+ year old vampire that just slaughtered her guards.
Why CZcams algorithm? I never looked for this.
In a straight up fight Nan would have killed Bill most likely. She’s got around 650 years on him. But this wasn’t a straight up fight and Nan had completely lost her cool. Eric had just slaughtered her “gay stormtroopers” and would have been the favorite in a fight vs Nan and Bill was just waiting for the moment to strike once Nan mentioned Sookie.
Furthermore, vampire fights are never as clean cut as the older vampire always wins. There’s the element of surprise. There is strategy. There is thinking to every fight. A 1 year old vampire would have a .001% chance against Godrick. But there is always a chance.
Eric could kill everyone in that room combined nan bill and the storm troopers
Age makes them stronger but it didn't necessarily make them good at fighting. All weve really seen Nan do is act like a politician and stay in the company of her "gay storm troopers" throughout the shoe to demonstrate to the audience that she's 1. An important political figure and 2. Hard to get alone and always protected.
It's never implied that she is a warrior or good at fighting and vampires have be taught to fight just like humans do. just bc she's old an vampires are strong doesn't make her a good fighter.
So as might as I like your well thought out analysis of the scene I would just like to point out that there's no evidence ever given in the shoe fjshshe csnnfigfbsnd sikd have if coukdjsbe doing bukkcofndjmduc. I think the fact that bill killed her and not Eric dbn showcases thr fsct that she's not s ghrsggkdkfjfknd kc them physically. If there was a chance of her killing bil Eric would have taken her out when he took out her guards. She didn't even try to fight back when they killrd her guads, she just started to bitch like usual bc that washer thing .. talking and being narcissistic and too arrogant to realize she was even in danger. she didn't think they'd ever touch her bc she thought she was too important to be touched in the the first place lol. She was use to running her mouth and begging away with it.
There was literally no evidence ever put forth in the show to suggest she could fight it defend herself, only the opposite ...(hence the guards). That was my impressions least. I don't think she stood a chance. If she was even the slightest but of a threat they would have had the 1000 year old vampire kill her not bill lol
@@gina-mariecarr3488 I actually think Bill just lost his cool and killed her before Eric did.
@@neillscott4192 did you see the way they exchanged glances and looked at her and the guards ? It was def planned but both of them... Eric distracted her long enough for bill to stake her. Idk if it was even a matter of strength Nan was just stupid for falling into their trap exactly the way they expected her to but to each their own.
the "fat first wife" line is in reference to when King Henry VIII divorced his first wife......Queen Catherine of Aragon (who wasn't exactly attractive).....her "retirement" was necessary for him to marry Anne Boleyn
That's not historically true. The reason that Henry divorced her was because she was sickly and the children that she bore were sickly. Catherine was pregnant at least six times and the only healthy child that she had was the future Queen Mary. She had at least two still-born children, the others died as newborns. Henry wanted to secure a male heir. Anne Boleyn was half Catherine's age and she was apparently very beautiful, so it was a good choice. It is believed by some that Henry started losing the "lead in his pencil" in his early 40's, or possibly even a little earlier. Seeing that happen, he may have been desperate for an heir, which he thought he could get with Anne; and he did. Prince Edward was the last child of King Henry.
Mcommander23 Prince Edward was the child of Jane Seymour, not Anne Boleyn.
Hazel Correct, my mistake. She actually died giving birth to Edward, didn't see? Her tenure as Queen was so short that I had actually forgotten.
The logic still holds though. She was a little younger even than Anne was, and Henry was growing desperate for a male heir due to his advancing years. That was the reason that he left Catherine.
I think the original poster made a tenuous speculation and wrongly expressed it as statement of fact. The 'first wife' trope is as old as the concept of marriage is. It could have been a reference to any one particular example, or none at all. There is nothing specific to indicate it was meant as a reference to Henry VIII.
Hazel Agreed. People often forget that until about 40-50 years ago; women who birthed at least one or two children usually put on weight and kept it on.
LOL Gay Stormtroopers
how do you know they were gay?
@@Viv8ldi, the fancy dress outfits?
@@Viv8ldi it was just eric being rude/funny lol
It's very good thing that Flannigan didn't share that info with THE AUTHORITY about Sookie
I never got how eric and especially Godric were just sherriff's when they were older than Sophie Ann the former Queen and Nan. Bill was younger but Eric was about 1000 while Godric was over 2000.
Politics.
Sheriffs & Monarchs weren’t chosen by age alone, I read certain actions/accomplishments were the number 1 thing the authority went by when picking them.
It was about will they had no intention of playing politics thats all, so while they had the power and brute force and strength to borderline rule the entire vampire world, they also had no real desire or will to do so politically speaking.
We are not effing puppy dogs!!!!! I heart you Bill 🥰🥰🥰
100 year old vampire vs 800 year old vampire
seems legit
He had the element of surprise.
Agreed regardless of how old a vampire is..element of suprise is always a good move!!
plus Eric is 1000 years old lol she was doomed even if she put up a fight
I mean, I didn't like the last season, but this is legit.
She looked at what's happening behind her (Eric killing the soldiers) and Bill surprised her...
Nan just wasn't on top of her game
I miss this show
I like how quickly that ended. If all villains could get killed that fast Marvel movies would be over in 20-30 mins.
Well....The main villain in that season was Russel along side with that shitty lilith religion of theirs... and they had a hard time getting rid of it. plus the element of surprise is always a good tactic xD
We are not fucking pupy dogs lol
how did Bill manage to kill Nan Flannigan? According to Nan she's 816 years old, while Bill is merely over a hundred. In True Blood lore, the older a vampire gets the faster and more powerful they were, that's why it's almost impossible for any vampire to go up against old vampires like Godric or Russell Edgington who are thousands of years old.
Muhd Rasyid plot armor lol
Eric distracted her until it was too late
RLucas3000 true that but she never would stand a chance while eric is there
Distraction and arrogance.
Besides Eric killed Russell who was at least 1,000 years older than him and Jason killed Warlow
I shit you not, Nan Flanagan is Sharpay's mother in High School Musical 2. You're welcome.
I KNEW I recognized her from something else thank you!
I miss that show!!!
Rewatching it now on Amazon prime. They got all 7 seasons. I missed it lol.
Same
I love this scene!
I have yet to watch True Blood and got a bit excited when I saw I share a surname with a character; who meets a gruesome end 😒
😂
Imo season 4 was the best season of the show and this scene was a great way to end out that great season
Oh yeah!! My top 3 seasons are 2, 3, and 4!
Right at the end, I swear that as Bill was staring at the puddle of Nan, the only thing missing was his ability to piss all over her.
"We are not Fucking PUPPY DOGS!!!"
What a biitch
Oh, yes you are. (puppy dogs) 🐶 😂😂
best scene ever
Nan was so funny
I miss True Blood
God I love true blood
why, it tastes disgusting according to Jessica!
Gay storms troopers LOL
why are they gay?
Bill is pretty fast & strong 4 a vampire his age
Yes, to an unusual extent
thegreenmanofnorwich he is a adept fighter and catches most vampires by surprise
Pre vampire bill was always a brave type of character even if they stronger than him he will usually fin a way to win some how.
strength and speed scaling is super inconsistent in this show
@@heartbeat8706, ex-military!
and the unholy alliance is formed
never cared for how the vamps died in this show.. thousand years old and died like a popped zit.
My biggest issue with this show was that the writers always made the Vampires God-like (plot armor) like they were untouchable and could never be defeated, unless defeated by another fellow vampire. Yet, you had powerful witches that were always portrayed as weak and fearful of vampires, deities of actual Gods that were somehow defeated by vampires (or werewolves), fairies with supposedly powerful magic that were easily hunted and killed by vampires, etc. Maybe to a 15 - 21 year old watching the show, not noticing the dynamic, were most likely impressed by this. But as someone that actually understands the folklore, I just felt the show was incredibly unbalanced. I mean, the show should have rightfully been called “VAMPIRES, and The True Blood.” That would have made more sense 🤦🏼♂️
Not Nan serving Crimson Chin in the thumbnail y’all ain’t had to do her like that🥴
"We are not fucking puppy dogs!" Sounded just like Dean Winchester. Too bad these shows didn't do a cross over.
She would've survived if she didn't mention Sookie. Mistakes were made.
This show, the Authority anyway, made no sense. The oldest vampires in the world getting bossed around by vampires half their age wouldn't fly.
Hi Nan... and gay stormtroopers.
how do you know they were gay?
“ WE ARE NOT FUCKING PUPPY DOGS” I’m using that line one day
id give anything to watch this shit again, it was peeerfect😩
Lol I have heard of this show never watched it though. Damn that dude is a smoosh on the floor. Lol
Lori Owens ... great show... you should see it.
Pity, i rather liked Nan as a character
Eric always has the best one liners.
THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME!!!!
We are not f****** puppy dogs
she tried to black mail them about sookie-sookie. not a good idea. feel bad for the soldiers too.
I'm seriously gonna have to watch this show . Only made it through season 1
believe me it's amazing! season one was annoying and kind of cringe worthy... the acting well kind of get better in the second season and the show will get much better, for me season1 and season6 were the worst :/
We would have enjoyed seeing Russell there for this moment.
WE ARE NOT FUCKING PUPPY DOGS!!!! LMAO
Would want to be the one to clean up that mess.
In the next episode, you see Eric speed-cleaning while Bill is on the phone telling Jessica the house is all hers while he attends to other matters.
Damn, Katherine Schade throwing’ shade!
She is funny but this was satisfying😂
Yep, that's going to stain!
how many times has someone tried to say "you fucking traitor"?
It took four seasons to kill this annoying woman but they killed Godric in his first season.
2nd!
2:46, my feelings towards many women on this show 😊
Man, the death animations on this show were so ridiculously fast, trying to hide the poor CGI I expect. Still cool scene!
There were slow deaths in case you were wondering... Like the death of Russel or Nora!
I think fast always looks better anyways. Even with good CGI in shows, when you see every single frame of a death, mutation or explosion it makes it look really fake because thats not how these things happen irl, they're pretty quick. But some animators wanna have it be admired and the detail seen but it just makes it look worse
how did bill get the speed to stab her? she was over 7 times his age.
Bill is unusually strong for his age, its been said by eric, plus she was distracted
Bill is fucking strong...Eric is way more older and powerful and his skills as a viking Prince makes him a walking killing machine,Nan dug her own grave the second she walked to that door.
Please... I cannot find the part where Sookie enters to save Bill while Erik is under Marnie's spell and Nan says 'JFC'... can someone assist?
Nan was a dead woman when threatened sookie
I really think this was a stupid move.
And gay storm troopers 😅😂
Absolute puppy dogs