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Which one is for you? Macro or Mikro?
Why am I getting more addicted to your videos, the more I am watching them...?
Been tempted to see what all the hub-bub about this machine was about. I've seen a ton of them in pawn shops,eBay, and guitar center then I look online to see people hyping them up. Seems to have alot of mixed reviews on it as well. Between you and knocks squared I can see the workflow seems easy and very adaptable. Ive been on the mv8800 since the day it came out, along with my dr5, and not a computer in sight... Whenever I see a machine like that on resale sites it makes me question it. I don't see any vids on my machines as of 2018 but they're a beast.
Your Video Inspired me to buy a mikro mk3 my first introduction to the maschine family
SP 1200 :)
Mikro Mk3, and I already had a Maschine Mk2. I've been making music almost totally in-the-box since the 90s, so my habits are terrible: my brain is always on the computer, I've been sample-editing on PCs for more than 20 years, and it's hard to tear my attention away. The Maschine has its little screens and other extras, but I don't use them much, so there was no point any more. As you say, the Maschine isn't bag-friendly but the Mikro is (and there's that pressure strip, which I love) and I'm on a laptop now. I can put the laptop, a mini-synth and the Mikro all in the same shoulder bag. The Maschine's going to stay on the desk, but out of the way (sorry, Maschine).
The Mikro has all the same capabilities of the regular Mk3...you just have to do some of them on the software only and not the hardware. It's not fair to say that the Mikro is limited, because it's not. It just forces you to do some things in the software. Some people won't like that, which is fine. If you want to only use hardware and barely use software, then get the regular MK3. But if you don't mind working in the software to chop your samples, then save some money and get the Mikro. It's not just for beginners. I've been making beats since 1996 when I bought my first MPC2000, and I just bought a Mikro this week. Otherwise, Sarah, good video.
Just get the DeckSaver for your MK3, they were meant to put gear with knobs and faders safely in any bag you want... and get it from Juno UK, they have them for much less than the inflated prices USA shops sell them for! Even with the air mail shipping, itâs less than half price. And no sales tax. I now have DeckSaver for all gear I have. (The availability of a DeckSaver or not for particular gear has even influenced some of my purchases, lol!)
Oh, and if you get the Magma case/bag, it lets you pull out the foam insert so it will fit the Mk3 WITH the DeckSaver on it, while in the case. Then you can have it all with you all the time!
This is exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks Sarah. Hearing the explanation from someone passionate about their craft is so much more real than someone trying to sell.
I hope they do a MK4 that's standalone. They would own the market.
Fernando Mercado I totally agree. I feel like when Akai came out with Live they were forcing NI to make their move. The MK3 is almost standalone so I think the logical thing would be to make the MK4 standalone IMO.
Standalone should be mandatory by now
They would def not own the market because Akai has been doing this shxt forever and understand it's completely workflow when you're full standalone so the software in the hardware gotta flow different. Like Akai got Splice built right into theyre standalones now which is a big deal.
I believe itâs time for N.I to step up and make a stand alone controller. As for unseating Akai for top spot in that arena Iâm not so sure. Akai has massive lead in terms of experience in the stand alone market. N.I would have to an exceptional piece of gear to dethrone the MPC. Itâs possible however improbable. I think they could be tough competition for certain. Competition is good for consumers IMO....
MPC is a trash brand IMO. But that's just me. There's a lot of love in some circles, but the options are so much better now with other brands, specially considering how wonky, and buggy the latest AKAIs have been.
Sure some geriatric boom-bappers will love it to death, but it's 2020 and the best they're giving us is a glorified linux touchpad + buttons? They're clowning and people are drinking the Kool-Aid
Roland has a great backpack for their SPD-SX that will work perfectly for the Maschine MK3 Macro â€I think that you will love it and if you want to you can add a square piece of foam rubber as an extra layer of protection for the knobs. The CB-BSPD-SX bag. Check it out and let me know if it works for you Alvin F. đ
I think Ski Beatz has his line of bags called SounBag that can fit the Maschine, a laptop and some 12 inch records, so you can check them out. They got really cool designs, but they are pretty pricy (around $150 or more). Peace! âïžđ
To anyone who has a problem with not being able to chop samples from the Mikro hardware... use the Serato Sample plugin. I just got rid of my MK2 (macro) and got a Mikro MK3 and my workflow didn't change that much. I rarely used the screens on the MK2, so not having them on the Mikro isn't affecting my workflow.
From all the reviews I've seen, before I purchased the Mikro, I would say it's mainly about your workflow. In-studio vs on-the-go and if you're MORE in-the-box vs being MORE hands-on.
The hands on difference is definitely noticeable when going between the mk3 and mikro Iâve been using maschine for 9 years . Way faster if you are hands on and use the mk3 to its full capacity.
@@nickwatland3565 I posted this 5 years ago. haha. I went back to the full size MK3 due to limitations of the mikro mk3 and never went back.
Dang! I was about to pull the trigger on a mikro for the travel aspect, but the sample chopping is def the killer! Good thing I found your vid, been a fan for a long while but didn't know you had made this. I take my mk3 everywhere so I definitely want to take care of it but dangggggg.
i beat the shit out of the mk2 since years and i do not think of upgrading
Thank you soo much for the comparison.. 1!! I would love to meet you someday and learn more from you and 2 I was thinking about getting the maschine Mk3 since I already have the mikro 2..
these fancy computer connected maschine samplers are cool, but I enjoy older standalone samplers (the Akai MPC2000xl, for example). They are very simple, but very good at what they do and I don't have to commit to a whole swarm of software environment aspects, since dependency on software makes me uncomfortable. The MK3 is a lot of fun and is probably one of the most intuitive samplers I have ever used. I just wish they would allow for standalone operation. The mikro seems a bit... neutered?
Mk3 is actually not that bad to travel with compared to an mpc 1000. Trust me!!! The reason why I switched from a mpc to mk3 was mainly for travel purposes, even though I still have to bring my computer.
When you want to travel you still need the right tools to express yourself. Learn the tool and make it second nature. If you choose mk3 micro, you will need to get audio interface for using mic, guitar, vinyl sampling and midi interface just to do what the Maschine MK3 does internally.
You chose the right equipment for sure. My Maschine MK2, jam and laptop fit in my backpack just fine.
I just got the Mikro MK3. First piece of Native Instruments gear. You have motivated me to give it a shot
Traveling with my maschine never been a issue a padded laptop bag is perfect for me :)
I was going to get the micro for the longest time but I decided to buy an Mashine mk3 because of the screens and the inputs. Very useful.
For me, the bigger instruments is what I always started with because the smaller less featured things would frustrate me and become too limiting , the screens I need so I can see whatâs what in each key and button.....but thatâs just me, I love your reviews
So the Mikro is comparable to a
Akai MPD 218 but the Mikro has more features which is great including the software. Interesting đ€ Dope video Sarah! đđŻđ„
A woman who hugs and kisses her Maschine canât be all that bad đ. Great vid
Hi Sarah. I just got the Micro MK3 last week. Thank you for the comparison. For what I do, the regular Machine isn't for me. Anyway, I know its been a few years since you posted this video, but I would suggest the Gator Small EVA DJ Controller Case if you haven't already found a case.
I had the same issues with the knobs on my mk2 and now it gives all kinds of crazy values when I'm not even turning knobs. I suggest you get a decksaver to protect your screens, knobs, and buttons for your MK3. I did for mine, and I'm kicking myself for not doing it sooner for my MK2.
Hey Sarah, great video as always. Just thought I'd let ya know about a cover to protect your MK3 and still be able to use your normal bag. Decksaver Native Instruments Maschine MK3 Cover. It's a lightweight slim plastic and really good for protection. I use it with a lot of my gear and have had no problems. I looked and found you can get them from Mixware LLC in USA. Hope this helps. ;)
Hi Sarah - I really enjoy your content, musicality and overall attitude and gratitude you project in your videos. You inspire me to create more content myself. Anyhow, thanks and keep movin'!
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the way i look at it what you cant do with the box
you can do with the mouse in the computer within the software
Sarah, thanks so much for the review of the mikro. I have a MK2 and will upgrade now. Thanks!
Thinking of getting the Mikro for sure. Eventually I wanna get the MK3 but yeah, gotta live within my means for now đ
Been screaming for a standalone since forever lol That would be the dopest upgrade ever for Maschine only issues I can see with standalone Maschine for some would be pricing and getting all the amazing sounds in while still having memory space....they'll figure it out
its only a good trade if you want similar functionality with less cost. still there are some features the smaller version doesn't have over the larger unit like the screen sample editing functions.
By the way, you make a fair point about providing feedback, however I'm still sad the Maschine software never got audio track recording / overdubbing functionality, something it REALLY does need if you plan to do live vocals or live instruments using the Maschine. It's really annoying having to edit lots and lots of takes, instead of just setting a count-in, use audio tracks and really just do it in a single take. I used to do that on my Roland MV8800 and it just works.
Do you mean live looping? If so, that exist
@@Sarah2ill Nah, I mean a recording mode for something like vocals or live instrument play that you don't sample to a pad, but instead record straight into an audio track that would be part of a scene. Now I have to sample to a pad, guess at the timing a little and do a lot of editing to make it start at the correct time. With an audio track you'd just use the regular count in of 2 bars and then record into a special audio track in the scene. Many Akai MPCs and the Roland MV8800 have them. Live looping you speak of is great, I use it all the time, but recording vocals or live instruments still feels clunky.
3 years later what's a good mashine to start with today đ what u do your understanding was crystal clear thank u
Have the Studio, mikro mk2, and jam. Seriously liking the maschine mk3, thinking of selling the studio to get it. love the touch strips on the jam, those with built-in audio interface on the mk 3 make it very enticing.
You could always get a Decksaver for the Maschine MK3. Check it out on Thomann or whatevs.
Great video anyways, Sarah. Keep it up!
Glad I found your channel. Im not new to making beats but relatively new to NI. I use MPC products and a Komplete Control S25. I was thinking about getting a Mikro to use Maschine more. Does the previous Mikro allow you to chop on the hardware? I understand this being a companion version of the MK3 but not allowing you to chop samples on the hardware is counterintuitive and kind of defeats the purpose of a groovebox.
I guess. I donât own the last one. Iâd look it up
Im here sitting with my micro like 'What!? That bigger version does the slicing so fast :'O!? Ahwell, I'm still loving my mikro :D
There is a protective plastic case for the Maschine MK3, but ye its heavy and takes big place for bag.
i've been thinking abt moving to the MK3 from Maschine Studio (the stand-alone audio interface is a game-changer), I'm really not too concerned w/copping things for the bells and whistles, but i'm noticing that NI is killing w/their streamline game, (smaller boxes w/more & more features) which is def a plus esp. if you do a lot of live performing w/said gear. That said, maximizing the minimal w/the micro would be beneficial.
Go for Maschine MK3 because its the best of all the worlds. The micro will not replace your studio. But it maybe a useful secondary tool.
Buy a decksaver cover for the mk3, i put the decksaver on and then put it in my north facei take my MK3 everywhere, and the decksaver is dope
Iâm Keeping my studio changing to mikro to use along side MPC studio 2
Just bought a mikro mk3 used to from a friend who didnât care for it. He is more advanced user while Iâm just getting started with this type of gear.
This video was super informative, thanks for taking the time to make it, probably the most useful video I've watched with regards to comparing Natives Mikro and Macro systems.
Also loving the video style it makes the overall video more engaging. :D
I've dabbled in music production in the past and looking to get back into and would like to start experimenting with sampling and chopping. I know you stated the Mikro MK3 is a good starting point for a beginner but seen as you can pick up a Mikro MK2 for relatively the same price or near about, would I be best of buying the older model or is the Mikro MK3 still the best option for a beginner.
Thanks for any advice
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great video Sarah, is it possible to make a full track with the mikro? mixing, mastering and export?
"Why you gotta do me like that" đđđ
Harbor Frieght tools a has some cool, affordable electronic technician boxes. I got my MK3 a carrying box there. Check out that tool store.
Becareful from decksavers they can scratch equipment unless you line it with felt strips. The new maschine including the komplete kontrol have plastic that has a coating that is easily scratched. Just thought I throw that information out their.
love the advice.. im excited to test this out!!
The best bag for the macshine mk3 ski-beatz sell them
Thanks Sarah for clarifying that. I was confused about the slicing on the Mikro 3. I should've got the macro instead.
This is awesome! I am actually looking to buy MK3 and this video helps a lot! Thanks! SUBSCRIBED! :) Look forward to more educational info about MK from you.
Thanks Sarah, hella insightful. Been debating on getting a Maschine. This was a well informed vid.
I just got my mk3 just yesterday and oh boy it changed my life around I just love it. Why not keep both? One for your traveling and the other for your production.
Loving this video! You definitely showed the difference between the 2 hardwares. Which made me make a choice for the MK3 full
†Great video, Sister. I would like to point out I own the S88, which has no drum pads. Enter the Mikro. As you said, itâs not just for beginners.
I feel like it would be possible to make a foam form-fitting Travel Kase Fur Da Maschine, ya?
I seriously enjoy using my Mikro Mk 3 . It's a BEAST. Takes like 20 mins to learn.
Can't you just chop in the maschine software on the computer. Also you can buy a dj deck bag for the maschine mk3, That is what I did as it is nice and padded on the inside plus has compartments for cables and other little accessories.
I have the Maschine MK2 and the Maschine Jam. I would love to get the MK3 due to the audio interface but it will have to wait, for now. I love having all of the touch strips on the Jam and paired with my MK2, it sped up my workflow tremendously! Have you tried the Jam?
I have the same set up. I love it. Have you watched the NI video series called Tru-torials? So many sweet videos on using jam and maschine for music making, audio fx and performance tips. Well worth watching over and over.
Nathan J Mansfield I havenât watched, but I will now! Thanks for the tip!
Iâd love to try the jam out!
I have 3 jams and 2 machine studio and 1 machine micro and it's plenty it's about the sounds.
@Sarah2ill I have a question - does your Maschine course cover lessons for the Maschine Mikro?
I like it and want to save up and get one. I would just import a wave file to my DAW if that is possible, and chop it up from there. It's a plus if it has good drum sounds. I wish I knew more about the unit.
How you feel about your mk3 is how my feels for the mpc2500 is.
I love my mpc2000 OG so much...
i literally just put my mk3 in my traveling duffel bag with a pillow in it lol. but great video đđœ
I love the mikro mk3. Screen is not a big deal at all. Because of this device I'm totally buying the MK3. Love your video
So I canât load a song into the Mikro, sample and chop it?
On the software đ© or duplicate the pad or Serato sample
Hey Sarah I bought a dust cover that covers the top tight so when I travel my knobs are covered completely ⊠Just Saying ..
I am not sure if the screens on regular helps a lot. It starting to be just fancy. Ex. FX, shown one under other in line on the siftware on PC, adding with 2 or 3 clicks. On MK3, pushing buttons with pictures.... Same on library: choosing from list, with search on keyboard. On Mashine pictures and knobs etc.
Maschine is the shit . I make metal on mine with all virtual instrument . Think Iâm gonna start a channel dedicated to it . Thanks for the inspiration !
I'm a turntablist and this is an awesome little tool to have if you own traktor using midi and as a live beat looper
People getting confused and Big Mad... the new Mikro is not an upgrade, it is the entry level... the Mikro MK2 is still the big brother but eventually the updates won't put the functions on the older products... Just because it's new doesn't mean you have to buy it. Figure out what you need a Maschine for and then buy the corresponding one... simples
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If you need a bag for that the best way to go is DIY. The bags available are way too expensive for what they are and if NI change the hardware down the line you'll have to change the bag as well. This just happened with the Maschine MK2 stand not compatible with MK3. So some armor foam or bulk memory foam can get the job done along with a hot knife or box cutter. If you find some thinner foam sheets you can sandwich them together with spray paint from arts and crafts. My friend has an eurorack suitcase so to bring it prepatched to gigs he just uses big bubble wrap. Looks guetto but it do the job.
thanks for the video Sarah , lots of good info. do both MK3 and MK3 Micro share the same "variation" engine features?
Super informative, also love the way you edit your videos đđŸ
Thanks love!
Thank you for another informative video. I would need the better editing. Would like in smaller size though. As always love your work.
Oh you know techmeout, thatâs wassup. I been subbed to her for a minute
It may seem a bit spendy, but seriously after a $600 investment an $80 decksaver should be your next purchase before you travel with such a wonderful piece of gear. Add in a Magma soft case and you're portable and protected!
Can you make a video explaining your sample picking process? What do you listen for when looking for a sample. Do you listen to the whole record? What is your process?
I just listen for something that sounds good. Nothing complicated. Just listen to myself
ONLY BIG MASCHINE ... I've bought mk3 mikro and i was disappointed... now i've big mk3 and THATS IT !!
I want to buy a launchpad pro or a micro maschine MK3.but i dont know which one is best....
Im a beginner, and i use ableton.
Which one should i choose???!
bought one because you dont need midi cables it can connect with a windows 10 system pretty well and its easy to carry
Can't you dice-up samples on the Micro via the laptop software?
Hi Sarah...for protection, try the Decksaver Maschine MK3 Impact Resistant Polycarbonate Cover. Works great...also have one for my NI Komplete Kontrol S61 MK2. Peace.
a great comparision between these too !! one thing that annoyed me a lot is that, for whateever reason the maschine mikro mk3 is not win7 compatible anymore, unlike the big mk3.
Awesome video! Tell me, do you have to use this with the Maschine software or can I use it in Logic using the NI Komplete software there? Thanks again!
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make a video that explains from the beginning how it is installed and what function each button has, Maschine Micro Mk3, it would be very useful thank you very much
Notification squad, I just subbed for the smile but I've been enjoying the vids... You ever mess with Roland products like the mv or vs
Try memory foam laptop cases....
Gutta Boy Ayy thanks for watching fam!!
@@Sarah2ill sharing as well. Keep dropping I'll keep sharing Love your smile đ
umm ... but if you like to chop samples , then why wouldn't you get the MKII ? I just picked up the MKII and I personally like it better than the newer version. The only thing I wish it had was the strip and the quick group access buttons, asides from that.. I think it is still a great maschine.
I'm completely new to this , your videos are great , I am a cave man compared to how far the technology has come from 30ty years ago when I had a midi studio . That experience was trouble every day , I sold it all & wrote my first album on a six string guitar . I have been playing live gigs ever since, Now with the pandemic those gigs are gone . I'm grateul for what these are today having been in â he early days , I'm going for the mk3 full size , I do have a question , do you use an external drive ? can you recommend one that works well with MacBook pro ? I want to put the download & content locations on ext. drive to save space on the MacBook. Thank you , I enjoy your video's , your so positive!
Maschine or Akai? What helped you decide where to invest and what eco system to get involved with?
Guitar center had the Maschine on Demo. $600. Akia is too expensive and no where to demo
I have a Komplete Kontrol M32 if I pair that with the maschine Mikro that will be perfect combo becasuse I get the keys and I have the easy control on the encoders of the M32
I've been using a Mikro MK2 for the past 2 years or so and the screen, even though its larger than the new one, is not really much more useful, imo. Sure you can slice a sample on it but it's not comfortable. The screen on the Mikro MK2 is somewhere between being too big for most of what you really use it for but too small for more complex things.
Brilliantly produced video. Keep up the excellent work! :)
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They dropped the ball by not allowing you to chop on it especially when you can do it on6the mk2 mikro
What's the point then? I'm rolling Maschine MK2. I can't see a reason to upgrade. I'll use that money for other things that will make a significant difference.
Itâs not meant for you to upgrade. Like I stated. You should upgrade to the Maschine MK3 if you already has the mikro
Itâs for beginners. Someone who cannot afford $600 and is okay with choppin on the screen
@@nathanjmansfield9969 Agreed. Keeping mk2 so used the money to upgrade to Komplete 12. All I would need for a long time outside hardware synths. Cant wait for that new Massive
@@obshaky X looks amazing. Komplete 12, now that's an investment. I can't justify the purchase when I don't use a fraction of what I have. But the fraction I use is usually massive or serum. Both are dope as!!!!!
The thing about the MK3 at this point is the audio interface. I wonder if they'll be offering a version without it for those that have no need for it, especially since the MK3 is missing phantom power. The original Mikro had nothing to do with being a beginner. It's was simply a compact version that saved space and was better for mobile use. They new Mikro should be called Mikro Lite, Intro or Essential while offering a full version of Mikro.
I got the mikro 2 and I think I'll keep her til she gives out. But that mk3 looks like something I'm gonna have to cop
This was very helpful cheers đ
I got the Mikro and Komplete Kontrol M32. I think they are a beast together. I don't really see the Mikro as a beginner's machine. It's great for beginner's but it's so much more. I been producing since the mid 90's with nothing but my Acid Music DAW and I think people put too much emphasis on hardware. The Mikro does most of what the MK3 does even splice samples. It's just done through your computer in Maschine. I've had much more expensive equipment in the past and my M32 and Mikro knock them out the water. My setup is very minimalistic but still robust.
They both are mikro to me I play keyboards, however the sounds are catching. Good vid kido.
Deck saver to protect the knobs friend âŻïž
Great video!! I recently bought an MK3, but I only bought it because I loved the feel and sensitivity of the pads, and I wanted to make sure the pads I was using were top notch. That being said, all of my sample slicing and prep-work I do in Ableton. I'm really just using my MK3 in MIDI mode to control Ableton's drum rack. I'm wondering if I should've just bought the Mikro instead, since I'm not using a lot of the MK3 features. My question is, are the pads on the Mikro exactly the same and as good as they are on the big MK3?
The pads are not quite as sensitive on the Mikro. Great for beginners who are just making beats but the full MK3 would be better for things like finger drumming to avoid double triggers and delays
Just tuning in to your channel. I noticed The MK3 has its on interface. Iâm assuming the Mikro will need a separate interface. Iâm about to pull the trigger on the Mikro lol Just making sure I have all my ducks in a row first. Newbie producer over here đđŸ Dope video tho! Definitely subscribing for future videos.
I just copped the MK3 it comes today Im super hyped đ
saludos me gustaria saber por que compre el MIKRO MK3 pero me dise al registrarlo que el numero de serial ya lo esta utilisando otra persona gracias
How do i download my finish beat in Maschine 2 so I can load it on a USB to listen in the vehicle. I. Done with the beat but tried to import it but it gave me a bunch of scenes not the whole song. Help!
Try exporting your files. Choose the master as the source and choose where you want to save the file. I go over this in my maschine course. Sounds like it would be very helpful for you : bit.ly/_MaschineCourse
Thank you I'll look into it ma'am. Love the music you do. Keep it â