Homemade Oil Diffusion Vacuum Pump

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  • čas přidán 7. 01. 2022
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Komentáře • 189

  • @pleopsidium6960
    @pleopsidium6960 Před 2 lety +51

    This is just like some kind of This Old Tony/Applied Science mash-up, but evil
    10/10

  • @systemerror8593
    @systemerror8593 Před rokem +3

    I just take off my hat and silently applaud.
    To do this from improvised means so that it worked correctly.
    Respect to the author.

  • @GMCLabs
    @GMCLabs Před 2 lety +50

    For really high vacuums, you need all metal seals. Plastic and rubber off gases at those pressures, preventing you from getting a high vaccuum.

    • @maxhouseman3129
      @maxhouseman3129 Před 2 lety +1

      And turbo pumps, IGPs and heating up all the setup for days.

    • @JerryBiehler
      @JerryBiehler Před 2 lety +1

      I can get down to low -7 torr high -8 with elastomer seals on my chambers. Anything lower than that and you will need conflate. That was with some 6" diff pumps, I have since changed to turbos. Biiiig turbos.

  • @josearnaldopinheirodossant7712

    I don't believe, where do you get time for thinking and realize all of you do ? It's incredible ! I have a lot of very simple projets to end but, no money, no time to finish a simple one ... God bless you guy !

  • @Sychius
    @Sychius Před 2 lety +50

    The way oil diffusion pumps work still seems like black magic to me, awesome work! Seeing the difference it makes compared to your normal vacuum pump is crazy, super cool vid man.

    • @reinholdu9909
      @reinholdu9909 Před 2 lety +4

      Best explanation yet: Applied Science czcams.com/video/SrNVLCHrJtY/video.html ...

    • @youkofoxy
      @youkofoxy Před 2 lety +1

      My explanation is that the oil molecules are bounce escorting the "drunken" atoms out, become the club is closed and the owner needs everyone out.
      Of course, having bouncers escorting people kinda means it isn't the purest vacuum, however it's good enough for most cases.

    • @jeffhousen8968
      @jeffhousen8968 Před 2 lety

      it's a kinetic pump, using oil as the kinetic mass
      very simple, no moving parts
      large mass moving one direction pulls everything else along with it

  • @UltimateMaking
    @UltimateMaking Před 2 lety +14

    Long live our JB Weld king !

    • @reinholdu9909
      @reinholdu9909 Před 2 lety

      The King:YES ...but here JB may well be one of the major mistakes ;-/

  • @BogdanTheGeek
    @BogdanTheGeek Před 2 lety +6

    I love this. Having perfectionism drilled into us by all the professionals on youtube sometimes discourages you to just do something even when you don't have the right tools or budget. Don't get me wrong, I will still do it right if I can, but its good to have a laugh when it looks stupid but works kind of situations.

  • @cavelord4766
    @cavelord4766 Před 2 lety +4

    i would suggest using stuffed steel wool anywhere you need oil vapors or mist captured and dripped back down. Its the DIY equivalent of what lots of industrial process equipment use

  • @IparIzar
    @IparIzar Před 2 lety +2

    It might not given you the numbers you want but it works, now it's just a matter of refining what you have

  • @Ravedave5
    @Ravedave5 Před 2 lety +6

    This was an amazing first attempt and the fact that garbage from the goodwill ga e you something with 4 times better vacuum is impressive. I'm sure version 2 will be great. And all together still 1/100 price of buying one.

  • @kb-elmo
    @kb-elmo Před 2 lety +3

    That "diy crafts" intro was too good lmao

  • @emidiomata1
    @emidiomata1 Před 2 lety +6

    You are the broest engineer I have ever seen and I love it. Keep it up. (And I would not mind another video over the new attempt)

  • @hultaelit
    @hultaelit Před rokem

    Those IKEA bowls are just *chefs kiss* 10/10

  • @Svorty
    @Svorty Před rokem

    Sweet baby jesus, I just came accross this channel and I'm having such a blast. Thank you for all your hard work and humor, goodsir!

  • @blue2815
    @blue2815 Před 2 lety +9

    You can imporve the welding on thin stainless steel by using argon to back purge. Technically you should always back purge stainless but really helps with thin plate or clamp some copper or aluminum to the back will acheieve the same thing.

  • @gammaleader96
    @gammaleader96 Před 2 lety +7

    I don't know how much JB Weld costs in America but where I live you could have ordered some custom made stainless pipes for what the JB Weld costs .... and I love it.
    Very impressive, I like the contrast between the super expensive commerical vacuum system parts and your thrown together thing.
    I think you got great results, looking forward to what else you come up with.
    Just never stop getting the job done, I love your way of getting it done, no matter what. :)

  • @Javii96
    @Javii96 Před 2 lety +2

    Dude.. just keep doing you and you're gunna have 1M subs in no time. So glad i stumbled upon your channel. I give it 3 years

  • @BluehawkOne
    @BluehawkOne Před 2 lety +2

    It's important that you try. And you tried. You have my respects.

  • @HomeDistiller
    @HomeDistiller Před 2 lety +3

    Also chilling the water to much can be counter productive as you only need to keep the walls below the boiling point of the oil.. Cooling it more than that means you won't have all the oil boiling in the bottom there will be a cold area around the edges.. The tiny element heating omg in the middle won't help ether lol.. Plus you should have another hole in the side of the jet stack shooting oil up the roughing pump tube.. It's the final stage and helps push the gas molecules into the roughing pump..

  • @Pest789
    @Pest789 Před 2 lety +1

    This deserves at least 1.2 dingers

  • @dirtdart81
    @dirtdart81 Před 2 lety +18

    JB Weld is probably offgassing, would definitely try to avoid it. Other commenters also suggested back purging which is a good idea for thin workpieces

    • @SodiumInteresting
      @SodiumInteresting Před 2 lety

      Jb weld is pretty good for vacuum but obviously not ideal

  • @gizelle-s
    @gizelle-s Před 2 lety +2

    Janky or not, it's fucking awesome! Really good job on the jank.

  • @LesNewell
    @LesNewell Před 2 lety +6

    I've finally found someone who is worse at TIG welding than me!

  • @GeorgeAlbercook
    @GeorgeAlbercook Před 2 lety +3

    I expect that you don't need to boil your silicone oil to remove additives before you put it in the pump. The pump will do that for

  • @nowar9220
    @nowar9220 Před rokem

    Sick build brother!!!
    Love seeing expensive tools being made at the home shop!
    Good luck for the future hope your channel grows exponentially!!

  • @dumdidumdumification
    @dumdidumdumification Před 2 lety +2

    You magnificent bastard you did it! Great video!

  • @mn6720
    @mn6720 Před rokem

    This channel needs more love

  • @mattbranham1105
    @mattbranham1105 Před 2 lety +3

    I F@#$ing love this channel!

  • @sameerUNO10100
    @sameerUNO10100 Před 4 měsíci

    best Vacuum Video on the internet

  • @AdvancedTinkering
    @AdvancedTinkering Před 2 lety +6

    Your videos are awesome! I especially like the fusion/vacuum videos!

  • @Deutz-fahr-fan
    @Deutz-fahr-fan Před 2 lety +1

    That’s the best explanation for an oil deffuser

  • @miszcz310
    @miszcz310 Před 2 lety +1

    No way! Man this is just too good! Thanks for your efforts! Keep it up! Cheers.

  • @moewoi2867
    @moewoi2867 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice work tackling this!

  • @zutai1
    @zutai1 Před 2 lety +1

    Too often, when I build something that kinda works enough, starting the build from scratch, with everything I learned along the way, tends to fix 90% of the issues.

  • @bardmadsen6956
    @bardmadsen6956 Před 2 lety +2

    Watching that at least helped me feel like I'm not on my own, I've been fighting 12 threads per inch for my 138 year old mill. Yesterday was the third try and then I found out that one of the gib holes is stripped, drilled out / zero threads, so I never did need that bolt after-all! BTW, machining stainless is an art, it doesn't like interrupted cuts. Somehow you have to get the feed rate just right before and hopefully don't stop. My planer loves stainless, the only drawback is the extremely hot blue chips jumping around. Looking through the videos is not particularly of my immediate interest but subscribed, it's the quest that matters.

  • @randomhuman1965
    @randomhuman1965 Před rokem

    Nice Going, Bud! Solid effort, decent results!

  • @chopper3lw
    @chopper3lw Před 2 lety +3

    Your channel just keep uppin' its game with every video, and you sir have way huge hacker balls, kudos to ya! Here's to UHV in the next one.

  • @aSpyIntheHaus
    @aSpyIntheHaus Před 2 lety

    I love that your TIG welds on Stainless look like mine. They're functional but not intended for public viewing. I am really loving these vids mate. Keep up thee good work

  • @whiterose7055
    @whiterose7055 Před rokem

    When II was building an electron accelerator in high school back in the 1960's I used a displacement pump for the raw vacuum draw the pulled down the rest with a mercury diffusion pump that worked similarly to the one you built with oil. It was very efficient and pulled a deep vacuum but probably wasn't the healthiest of devices.
    Cheers !

  • @catcam
    @catcam Před 2 lety +1

    Just subscribed ! Thanks for great (funny and smart) content and all best from Croatia!

  • @BenjaminMaggi
    @BenjaminMaggi Před 2 lety +1

    last oil diffusion pump video I saw was the one made out of glass in Applied Science channel and I thought that was pretty cool, but a DIY made one Is much better you rock !

  • @waldovanderwesthuizen4557

    "Very suggestible water"
    Hahaha

  • @Aryahmmr
    @Aryahmmr Před rokem

    wow, talk about DIY, well that was on a whole different level! I quite enjoyed this video.

  • @makegoodcollective793
    @makegoodcollective793 Před 2 lety +2

    You might want to water cool that baffle. It is the last chance to stop the oil vapor before it gets into your vacuum chamber.
    You probably know this but make the chamber easy to bake. It can take forever (almost literally) to pump down room temperature chamber.

  • @fb___4255
    @fb___4255 Před 2 lety +2

    Great job! Keep it going bro

  • @oddjobbob8742
    @oddjobbob8742 Před 2 lety

    “Not a huge success”? Men, look what you did. From stuff at Goodwill you built a vacuum pump that may not do its job as well as you hoped, it still does draw a vacuum. You have me impressed.
    I don’t know a lot about how you should do what you’re doing, and all I know about making vacuum oil I have learned in your CZcams, but I know even cheap vacuum oil isn’t cheap. So, I would suggest, put an air filter between the ODVP and your roughing pump. Put a filter between your pumps. I have a two stage filter made from 1 1/4” black pipe, starting with a cap into which I have mounted a hose fitting, then a 12” nipple first stuffed loosely with an inch or so of cheesecloth then filled with activated charcoal, a coupling, a close nipple, a coupling, more cheese cloth to loosely fill the couplings and close nipple, another 12” nipple filled all but a couple inches with silica gel to act as a drier, then capped as the other end.
    I got the idea of a filter from a CZcams by TechIngredients. He used a filter from a refrigerator ice maker I think it was, or maybe it was from an reverse osmosis water filter, can’t recall, but I looked at those and I thought the material was too lightweight (I am not a gentle user of equipment) and I seem to have remembered reading that PVC, ABS, and other plastics give off air and will weaken the vacuum. I know that is only critical in a system where the vacuum us closing in on absolute zero but black pipe is cheap and I had 1 1/4 pieces from installing a tankless hot water heater. I honestly have no idea if the filter has improved the longevity of my vacuum pump oil but it can from the mouth of TechIngredients and you can’t get much better than that.
    To monitor the oil I have a small vacuum tank that holds about 1 gallon. I know how long it takes my pump to get that tank to 15 in. Hg 22 in. Hg, and 25” Hg when the oil is new. Every now and then I run the time test. When it is up 20% I change the oil. I heat the old oil to force out any moisture then filter it through a coffee filter (ironically, sort of, using vacuum). I figure if a coffee filter will keep tannins out if my coffee it will likely keep contaminants out if the oil. When I change the oil I use 50/50 old and new. Each time I change the oil I do the time test. If the time is off by more than 10% (it never has been, but that is my standard) I will change to 100% new oil.
    Anyway, I am looking forward to your future CZcamss on this topic. Your enthusiasm is great.

  • @mikehorrocks2909
    @mikehorrocks2909 Před rokem

    For impromptu jets, use a metal shower head or a shallow steel bowl or ring with tiny holes drilled into the rim.

  • @SpaceLint
    @SpaceLint Před 2 lety +5

    Love your videos! Oddly inspiring and extremely entertaining. And OMG, Flo from Progressive, Goodwill Cups, ADHD tendencies, and janky welding skills… the definition of a top notch maker (and entertainer)!!

  • @zebdeming
    @zebdeming Před 2 lety +1

    Dude, I love you man!

  • @zrobotics
    @zrobotics Před 2 lety +1

    One thought for oil, shock oil for RC cars is silicone and comes in quite a few different weights. Maybe something to look into, might have less crap in it than the silicone sprays.

  • @TheBarnett8
    @TheBarnett8 Před 2 lety +1

    Love your videos

  • @DVWorkshop
    @DVWorkshop Před 2 lety +1

    I really like your style and sense of humor dude, hello from Russia.

  • @ozb2006
    @ozb2006 Před 2 lety +1

    nice i love this channel!

  • @chemicalcorrosion
    @chemicalcorrosion Před 2 lety +1

    Success indeed!

  • @alexstone691
    @alexstone691 Před 2 lety +2

    I can see you are using the hand cleaning bucket thing, jokes aside this thing is magic how it works

  • @craterinahole
    @craterinahole Před 2 lety +3

    Damn you look tired by the end of the video but thanks for the spectacle of making lab equipment in your garage with Yeti cups and JB Weld.

  • @DanielKezar
    @DanielKezar Před 2 lety +1

    Loving the animation and effects. You are killing it man! Did the old lady have something to do with that artistic touch?

  • @julias-shed
    @julias-shed Před 2 lety +1

    Looks proper sci-fi awesome work as usual. Remember nature abhors a vacuum 🤣

  • @321tryagain
    @321tryagain Před 2 lety +1

    Impressive video

  • @kswiorek
    @kswiorek Před 2 lety

    Wow, this thing is really janky, but it is actually amazing that it worked! I always wanted to have such a vacuum system, so I might try to do something similar.

  • @DudleyToolwright
    @DudleyToolwright Před 2 lety

    So entertaining. Very nice job. I feel the pain with trying to weld thin stainless...

  • @AlbertFilice
    @AlbertFilice Před 10 měsíci

    Sick video

  • @regulatorjohnson.
    @regulatorjohnson. Před 10 měsíci

    I have silver soldered stainless steel water bottles before while making stirling engines. Once I figured out a good technique it was quite easy

  • @toomanymats9755
    @toomanymats9755 Před 2 lety +1

    Please do a rebuild! This is super awesome and I'd love to see how far you can push it

  • @24680kong
    @24680kong Před 2 lety +3

    From my experience, a cheap vacuum pump should be able to get you down to at least single-digit torr, but I can't tell what units you are using. If it is disconnected and the vacuum doesn't change, then you should be reasonably well sealed. If not, it's leaking. The diffusion pump will be hard to troubleshoot. You might try running it with water at higher pressure (no roughing pump) and just seeing if it can get down close to the partial pressure of water (about 2 kPa). But I'm guessing it just can't make good fan-shaped sprays to prevent the collected air from flowing back up. Otherwise, I know the diffusion pumps take a LOT of heat to run properly, so you could try doubling it down on that. Check that the material the gasket is made of is okay for use in vacuums (but it's probably fine). Good luck! This is a fun project to watch.

    • @reinholdu9909
      @reinholdu9909 Před 2 lety

      + he maybe should've make the spray stages all same size for better "reflow prevention" (add more?) and REALLY add a lot more heat at the bottom (with enough oil) - BUT FUN!

  • @woundedtesticle
    @woundedtesticle Před rokem

    You are my spirit animal

  • @Ma_X64
    @Ma_X64 Před 2 lety

    To weld thin stainless (and other actually) you need a "Cold weld mode". It's just a precision controlled arc time. I think that you can assemble little device by yourself. You press a button, MCU starts a HF module and wait while welding current starts going and then just count a time and stop the arc. My TIG-machine can produce pulses from 10 to 200 milliseconds but I would prefer range wider a little. Current should be like 3-4 times higher than for usual process.
    On Applied Science channel Ben was used an about 2 kilowatts little gas stove for tourists to heat up his oil-vapor vacuum pump. It's quite faster than using electric heater and you don't need to suffering making good thermal contact between heater and chamber.

    • @joshuang1128
      @joshuang1128 Před 2 lety +1

      Very similar to this old tony but you see his face hahaha

  • @wobblyjellyman69
    @wobblyjellyman69 Před 2 lety

    this is great

  • @youkofoxy
    @youkofoxy Před 2 lety +1

    I suggest building a second one and placing them in series.
    Also, make the part as clean as you can, leave no place were contamination can set home.
    Don't forget to heat up the components to drive off any remaining liquid.

  • @Sqwince23
    @Sqwince23 Před 2 lety +2

    the gasket and/or the JB weld are probably off gassing into your system.

  • @mikehorrocks2909
    @mikehorrocks2909 Před rokem

    Here’s an idea for that larger steel sphere: use that sucker for a Van de Graaf generator.

  • @operator8014
    @operator8014 Před 2 lety +1

    Could be worth looking into the Sprengle pump. Cody's Lab did a great series on it, but I've always wanted more of that aparatus.

  • @CharlesVanNoland
    @CharlesVanNoland Před 2 lety +1

    I hope AvE comes across this channel and has some things to say, just for the fun aspects.

  • @Gigabecquerel
    @Gigabecquerel Před 2 lety +4

    Impressive build!
    Another thing to consider might just be the heat input, I don't know what wattage your s'mores heater has, but maybe try something bigger just as a test

    • @zrobotics
      @zrobotics Před 2 lety +3

      I'm shocked that "more heat" wasn't the first troubleshooting step, to be honest. That would certainly fit with his normal MO, although I might get concerned about the integrity of the JB weld.

  • @imanderdumme8706
    @imanderdumme8706 Před 2 lety +1

    good job .

  • @koukouzee2923
    @koukouzee2923 Před 2 lety +1

    Well that looks intresting

  • @DanielSMatthews
    @DanielSMatthews Před 2 lety +2

    You could have just spot welded it to hold it together then made it vacuum tight by electroplating nickel on it. Slow and steady to get a thick smooth deposit.

    • @nathanmccorkle4278
      @nathanmccorkle4278 Před 2 lety

      Interesting, I never would have thought electrodeposited material from an aqueous environment would be strong enough to prevent leaking, or pure enough to prevent virtual leaks.

  • @johnashworth2679
    @johnashworth2679 Před rokem

    Good job with rough materials, I'd like to see the 2nd and 3rd learning iterations.

  • @lumotroph
    @lumotroph Před 2 lety +1

    Cool!

  • @Alpha0ne
    @Alpha0ne Před 2 lety +1

    Today is a good day

  • @operator8014
    @operator8014 Před 2 lety +1

    I thought that text said your hair dryer was leaking. I had apocalyptic visions of some kinda after-shower flame thrower system for drying/removing body hair.

  • @zenmark42
    @zenmark42 Před rokem

    lol, I'm the amateur tig welder you're talking to and holy shit are you right that welding super thin stainless together is NOT EASY. The jump from 1/8" down to 20ga with my project was crazy. How does metal just DISAPPEAR LIKE THAT?!?!? fuck. Stupid thin sheet stainless. Clearly the answer is a laser welder.

  • @jeffreyfries7938
    @jeffreyfries7938 Před 11 měsíci

    Take a carpet extractor pump out of an old carpet shampooer. You can find them at the GW (from time to time.) They are beefier that the Harbor Freight pump generally. I’ve reached -26.5 mmHg.

  • @Demonlord468
    @Demonlord468 Před 2 lety

    Would have really helped you out a ton if you had purged backing gas for those stainless welds. The backside of all those welds are sugaring on you thus why they not only look so bad especially on the backside but, also why you had so many issues welding it and no so much because it is thin material. The sugaring is also why the welds come out so dark and grey/black looking. Using aluminum foil is a really good option to purge Stainless on the backside of welds like that for example when welding stainless pipe or header/exhaust you cap off each end with foil and run a second hose from your argon bottle with the same setting to keep backing gas on the backside of the welds.
    Just make sure you always have a small hole for gas to escape thus why aluminum foil forms work so well for this. Some people use rubber caps on pipe but, you still need to allow the gas room to escape or your weld can blow out on you as you weld. You just want the gas to cover the backside of the welds not pressurize. Ive actually welded sheet metal in special fixtures to purge backing gas on flat runs for Stainless.
    Its required on food service and aviation welds with stainless and also used when manufacturing Header and Exhaust parts because it is not only easier to weld but, the welds come out 100 times better all round. That sugaring is very detrimental to your TIG welding process. You also want to wipe down all your stainless (and aluminum for that matter) parts with Acetone before welding so they are clean as possible. Every little bit helps.

  • @AppliedMathematician
    @AppliedMathematician Před 2 lety +1

    You will build a fusion reactor out of parts from a scrap yard one day if you continue that path ;) .

  • @johnkoury1116
    @johnkoury1116 Před 2 lety +1

    Are you in Pa? I am building a vacuum tube glass blowing shop and I am trying to source and or build everything I need. Love your vids... Can a vacuum diffusion pump be made from copper?

  • @creamsupreme7009
    @creamsupreme7009 Před 2 lety +1

    Dope

  • @cyclonicblade
    @cyclonicblade Před 2 lety +1

    Looks like drinks are on you in the future if it don't work as a pump can make some beverages with it...

  • @SpinStar1956
    @SpinStar1956 Před rokem

    Don’t know what to think after watching your video. I recently bought a Robinair 15500 2 stage vacuum pump and also a CPS VG200 micron gauge. If I hook the micron gauge directly to the pump with fresh vacuum oil, I can pull down to 4um which seems amazing; if I include the gauge’s included brass-adapter, it increases to 6um.
    Do you have any comments, do yo think my VG200 is reading correct?
    When I pull down a R134 automotive AC, I get about 300um which seems to be about right.
    Great video, learned a lot! Thanks!

  • @Jkauppa
    @Jkauppa Před rokem

    um, consider a simple state change ultra vacuum, where you change the gases to solids, scoop them out, or electric ionization field sling vacuum

  • @chadjensenster
    @chadjensenster Před 10 měsíci

    You said fusion and I subbed

  • @iIiWARHEADiIi
    @iIiWARHEADiIi Před rokem

    For weld test sometime is used chalk and kerosine from other side.

  • @nicecriminal6150
    @nicecriminal6150 Před rokem

    Classic

  • @adrianrevill7686
    @adrianrevill7686 Před 2 lety

    Great build, do you get a JB weld sponsorship?
    Keep it up, really looking forward to watching you irradiate yourself.

  • @reypolice5231
    @reypolice5231 Před 6 měsíci

    Get up to 14 bars of vacuum from your car engine by disconnecting the vacuum line to the master cylinder ( brake master cylinder).
    Vacuum from car engine.

  • @HomeDistiller
    @HomeDistiller Před 2 lety +2

    I have a cheap pump.. Literally the cheapest 2 stage pump I could find.. But changing the oil to good quality oil increased max vacuum allot! Do not use the crap oil that comes with the mechanical pump

  • @sarinhighwind
    @sarinhighwind Před 2 lety +1

    I was thinking you were gonna do an oil seal to pull through. Interesting

  • @jeffpkamp
    @jeffpkamp Před 2 lety +1

    Lol this one was more like Janktown city. Love it. To be fair, a lot of original lab equipment was made this way... Maybe less JB weld.

  • @makegoodcollective793
    @makegoodcollective793 Před 2 lety +1

    You may be able to use sorption pumps for rough vacuum and titanium sublimation pumps for high vacuum. I worked on a system that had sorption pumps, titanium sublimation pumps and ion pumps. It bottomed out the bayard-alpert ion gage. Less than x10 to the -14 torr!
    Does anyone know if you can leave out the ion pumps?

  • @robson668
    @robson668 Před 2 lety +2

    Wouldn't brazing this together resulted in cleaner joints?