Revolutionary Vise Jig!
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That's impressive. Well done, but I think that I'll wait for $299 Woodpecker version to come out rather than getting my hands dirty. Or, maybe even get the $799 Festool type, cause it'll come with a sustainer.
HA!
☝️ no more comments please… we have a winner 😆
I’m so damn jealous I never thought of this myself! This is one of those ideas that is so simple and brilliant that it made me smack my head 🤦🏻♂️
Hard to think in all that heat. Thanks!
This is a single facet fractal vise.
I assure you, your not alone there.
"Sounds of old guy sanding" lol😂😂😂
It's a very good solution and also an old one. You've created a type of pivoting vise jaw. Some of the Wilton vises used to come from the factory with a different type of pivoting jaw that did the same thing. Hold nonparallel parts. There have been aftermarket and shop made ones also. And the old pattern makers vises would move in all kinds of ways. Everything old is new again. Great work though I haven't seen one in the configuration you came up with.
Thanks! I know of the Wilton one. I planned to mention it in this video, but never got around to it.
Adam Savage did a great video on a fractal vise
@@liquidrockaquatics3900 Comment here because that was my first thought too. A great solution but not a revolutionary (to everyone) one.
GREAT simple build. So much versatility in a simple design. Keep the videos coming!
Thanks! Will do!
I love everything diy and this is an elegant solution...perfectly solves the problem, easy to use, and inexpensive. Yes, I do plan to build one. Thank you for sharing!!
I'm glad. If you're up for it, email me a picture when you're done. I'd love to see! (david@worstworkshop.com)
Now that is an awesome jig!
Thanks! I never really want to remove it. It just works.
Great video! I enjoyed meeting you at the Bourbon Moth happy hour a few months ago.
Thanks! And yeah, that was a really fun night all around.
That radius drawing jig is absolutely genius! Ima steal it for sure 😅
Yeah? It's kinda janky, but it sure works!
@@worstworkshoplove it! Stroke of pure genius!
It's a beam compass. A piece of string works too. You tie the string to the pencil then put a loop on the other end around a pivot point.
Great idea… I need to do a ~40 circle-arc with a 60 cm radius… all on a router-jig and with my MFT table I can do this eeeeasily now 🥳
@@lgolsen I'm glad!
That is impressive! Well done!
Late to the party this time - because I've actually been out in my shop, working on a massive build. LoL.
While this may not have saved me any time on this one, im comfortable assuming it will in the future.
Thank you so much for your consistently quality presentations.
And, for the record, I'm proud to have been the first public recognizer. LoL. ;)
Ha! Thanks for making it to the party, late or not!
That's brilliant, dude! Fantastic work!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Thanks! Hope you're doing well!
Now that's a very clever solution to a widespread problem! Well done, mate!
Thanks!!
That there's pretty-darned ingenious! Thanks for the inspiration! 😃👍
Thank you!
Nice fancy new backdrop for the worst workshop. Awesome to see you and your channel growing.
Thank you! It was a low-cost solution, but I love the way it turned out.
Excellent work again! Another awesome video! I liked your idea, and I may steal it from you when I finally build my work bench. I've still got some other priorities for my workshop ahead, like an outfeed table for my table saw and some wood storage racks to free up more space in my shop. I almost forgot about having to fix my miter saw station too, which is a complete mess, pretty much like the rest of my shop. I hope everything is wonderful with you and your whole family. It was great seeing another video from you. Please take care and have an amazing week.
Thanks, Mark. Have a great weekend!
You might build an outfeed/workbench and then you can include the vise and kill 3 birds with one stone. This forces you to keep your workbench clean if you’re inclined not to. Which is a good habit to get into.
best presentation and explanation ;) best wishes and thx
Thank you so much!
I loved that bud. Really nice video. Quality is way up. Not to mention the genius simplicity of the end result. Thank you,
Thanks! It's funny you say that. I was thinking about you in some of the calmer, "zen" moments, reminding myself not everything has to be over the top. You're a good influence on me.
Awesome idea! this makes me want to get a vise now. Well done Sir!
You could try to make one out of OSB. It would be the first!
You can make a vise. I made my first woodworking vise. Well, I found an old rotted out head of a vise and remade all of the wooden pieces. I got the screw and nut out of that. If you're good at scrounging you can find suitable nut and thread for a vise. If you're really desperate you could use blocks and opposing wedges. A screw thread is just a wedge in the round. It's an inclined plane that wraps around a cylinder. There are various schemes for hand carving wooden threads even. I've thought about making wooden threads. I haven't done it yet though. But it is possible.
@@1pcfred that sounds like a great idea, but my needs for a vise would be rare, so time vs cost, I would just buy one. 😅
@@fiveduckstudio I use vises quite a bit so I have quite a few. There's different kinds of vises. Some are more suitable for certain tasks than others are. Which is why I don't get by with just one. Although I suppose if I had to I'd manage somehow.
A great innovative idea.... love it!
Glad you like it. Thanks.
Awesome idea! Simple and really useful! I like it made with wood glue. Make it once, and don't worry about it again.
Me too!!
I like your style, brother. That's an awesome little jig!!
Thanks!
Very clever idea! Thank you, grandpa/cousin. I don't know if you're 37 or 73, but either way, you've come up with a really cool idea that I legit had never seen before. Subscribed!
51, and thanks!
@@worstworkshop Dude you're 51?? You look so much younger! Wow. I mean the beard looks 73 - I see what that guy's talking about - but ignoring the beard, about 40 seems right.
@Ahjile I'll take that as a compliment. Thanks!
You are brilliant!
@@lauramarshall6376 thanks!
I have bought into the microjig dovetail clamping system. With two quick clamps you can clamp anything to your dovetail routed bench top and front. It’s so simple yet brilliant.
It's a good solution, and really clean looking. I do something similar with holdfasts, but sometimes you just want a vise to grab your work and get moving
Construction adhesive may work well for the track, since it can remain a bit elastic. Hot glue can actually be pretty strong, you just have to preheat the surfaces with a heat gun for maximum stickage.
Its never occurred to me that pre heating the mating surfaces might help adhesion. I'll remember that hack. Thanks.
Great ideas!
The shop is looking very nice!
Thank you! It's amazing what a bucket of paint can do.
Loving the shop background!
Thanks!! A lot of thought went into that. Turns out a bucket of cheap paint can make a big difference.
@worstworkshop ditto on the new set. That was a wise move!
That's just brilliant man! 👏
Glad you like it. You're killing it on those serving tray videos! Keep up the good work.
Great idea for a long time issue. - Chris
I appreciate that. It's a lot easier than a twin screw vise, but those have their place too.
Hot glue doesn't dry, it freezes. All it is is a stick of plastic that gets melted. Beauty of it is that you could recover that first one by remelting it.
Great concept on a troubling clamping issue
I appreciate it!
I am wondering how many headaches it could have saved me over the years - it's great!
Umm, I don't think it's Worst workshop anymore, I think it's BEST :)
It's amazing what a bucket of paint can do.
I love this. I've always wondered if a fractal vice could be adapted to wood, great implementation.
Thanks! It's not a true fractal vise, but I bet one could be made, with enough skill and patience. I honestly think two points of contact on each side is enough though.
@@worstworkshop For sure, I think this is perfect for woodworking.
Hello from Ireland just came across your video. I going to try this over the weekend it looks a very cool idea. Keep your fingers crossed for me 😅
Great! Send a picture when you're done. I'd love to see!
Keep em comin. Your videos are really good. But all the credit goes to the hats' inspiration. 🙂😉
Very true. Glad you enjoyed it!
Good idea! Lazy as I am I usually take my tapered bit as an angle spacer and run it together with scrap wood in my saw to get the matching part for my vice.
Having your solution though would be nice. Maybe some day. 👍🏻
Kind regards
Anders
Sweden
Thanks! For a small taper you should even shove something squishy in there, but once I thought of this I couldn't let it go until I built it.
Tighten it harder! If it still moves wiggles then tighten it more lol! I have the same exact vise so I know the struggle but I put 1/2 inch blocks of red oak on the jaws to protect my work and you can tighten the heck out of it with no wiggle and no worries.
I like the way you think!
Great job! Love the new background, too.
Thanks!
Great idea… keep up !!
Thanks!
Not sure if I’d do that, very rarely need to clamp angled pieces but regularly need more distance. And when need to clamp angled, it’s easy to clamp it some other way, like with a small wood piece or clamp-in-the-vise etc.
Clever solution, well done, seems pretty nice, but I would just use a wedge. Wedges work perfectly, and they're quick, cheap, and easy to use. Especially since this is not a super common problem to experience.
great job WW on making ur own Vise Jig.. looks cool too..
Thanks!
Cool idea, nice job.
Thanks!
helpful video. thanks...great idea.
Appreciate it! Love your drawer slides video too.
@@worstworkshop Thanks much. It was a fun one.
instantly liked and subbed after seeing that ingenious fucking design
Thanks!
Super clever and WAY cheaper than getting an old pattern maker's vise. Nice.
Glad you like it!
great little jig. well done for thinking outside the box.
I really appreciate that
I`ve got that same problem, this is so simple yet hard to see
That is brilliant!
Thanks, Barry!
Great idea. If only fractal vises weren't so expensive and hard to find (I wish of finding one in a junk/antique store one day), but this is the best vise you'll get per dollar by far.
Clearly, you get it. That's exactly the idea. I feel so validated
@@worstworkshop A fractal vise is one of those obscure tools thats just so crazy rare and expensive I've never even seen one in person. Yet considering how practical the idea is its weird that they haven't been mass produced at an affordable price point by now. Your idea is the closest I'd probably ever come to one.
@@sgath92 you can get fractal vises but they're not cheap. Even out of China you're looking at about 4-5 grand. At that price expect to do finishing work on it.
@@1pcfred Like I was saying, obscure and expensive. If the chinesium ones are $4k I don't want to know what a quality USA made one would be.
@@sgath92 I don't know if any are made in the USA. I'm not seeing them. Maybe they were at some time in the past? But that's the case for many things today.
This is an awesome idea. could use a row of magnets on one side and a steel strip on the other instead of the t-track to hold the pieces in line.
That's smart!
@@worstworkshop it takes a village to build a vice, lol
Consider using a shop made jig for the bandsaw cut of the trunnion radius. Then leave the trunnion mounted in the radius jig and use a Tee router bit to put the groove in.
OK, you're smart. That's exactly what I was planning to do if I decided on making a small run. And thank you for saying TRUNNION! That's the word I was looking for and couldn't remember.
@@worstworkshop I couldn't remember trunnion either, I had to look it up on ChatGPT.
Good idea. My only issue is with my vise I would lose so much capacity due to the extra jaws. New subscriber
Thank you! And you're right. You lose a couple of inches. That's the main reason I made mine removable.
Good excuse to buy a new vise 😉
Nice job, normally when i see something using a wedge like this the faces are grooved, in this case, i bet you would get more range out of it by gluing some sandpaper to one of the faces.
You could be right. Thanks for the tip.
Good job my friend. If only I had a vice :)
Thanks! If you're looking for a bargain, that Doyle one from Harbor Freight I have is top notch.
Stuffing something like a rag or shirt in the spaces that aren’t getting clamped works great. Just don’t be afraid to really crank on the tension rod and she ain’t goin no where.
Yes, that works too. I just had this idea and wanted to see if it would work!
@@worstworkshop yes sir I think about it every time I need to clamp an odd shaped piece lol! I definitely will make one . Thanks for the content. Great video
Great Jig!
Thanks!
Interesting idea.
It does bring up the question as to how brittle dried CA glue is.
It's a good question. Almost all the force on the joint is compression, so it doesn't take much to hold it once the MDF settles into the curve.
@@worstworkshop Was thinking more of the constant clamping and unclamping load. That's not a scenario I would think CA glue is good for over time. But it's not like I ever tested it.
But think about it. If you get some on your skin. You wait for it to dry (get brittle) then supply a load to it and it just crumbles and flakes off. Wood glue would still stay together. Not sure about Hot glue as I don't use it much.
Hot glue is surprisingly strong, and flexible to boot when used correctly.
@@worstworkshop There's different hot glues. There's even other thermosetting plastics. Which is what hot glue is. HDPE looks just like hot glue when it is melted. It's about as sticky too. But there's different kinds of HDPE. There's translucent and colored. Colored HDPE has binders in it. So it has different properties. Even white HDPE is colored. But plastic milk jugs that's translucent. Melting HDPE is a whole thing.
Brilliant idea
Thanks a lot!
This is very similar to how bike seats are angled and tightened... awesome implementation
I didn't think of that, but good point. Glad you liked it?
Thirteen minutes to find out that I already knew that hot glue sucks !! Except for when it’s the perfect thing !!
Exactly. I've used it go glue boards together "temporarily" only to find out the glue is stronger than the lignin that holds the wood fibers together (at least on cheap construction lumber). But this wasn't a good place for it. I could have left that whole bit out, but what fun is that?
First "Roubo Sucks," now this. Guess I'll have to subscribe
Thanks!
3:38 - you could have used your radius drawing jig to actually cut the radius instead. Just secure the workpiece at the end 🤓🤓
Great video!
Thanks!
Very cool!
Thank you!
Real man of genius, cool idea
Poverty precedes innovation? Glad you like it!
Not on your video at all but around 10pm on July 9th google crashed I guess. Many diff creators of content that didn’t start or end as well in mids without commercials. Btw great video. Thanks.
Oh wow! This video was tanking that day too, but I kept toying with the thumbnail and title, and the next day it took off.
A cool solution. The other way that I've seen is to put a hinge in the middle of one of the jaws so it can tilt to follow the angle of the workpiece.
Wilton has one that comes from the factory like that. It can't be removed, and it's expensive, but it was part of the inspiration for this
Nice vise mod.
The worst workshop is looking good. It may not be the worst anymore.
It's amazing what a bucket of cheap paint can do!
@worstworkshop I neglected to mention it in my own comment, but yeah, definitely looking good!!
Great vice add on
Thanks!
👍 Well Done
Thank you
That's a fancy workbench and shop! When did you upgrade from the low rent shop?
I didn't! Home Depot sold me three beadboard panels on clearance for $8 each. They were falling apart, so I had to glue them back together. Then I bought a bucket of barn paint for twenty bucks and used some scraps to build that small cabinet behind me. It just looks fancy. It's not.
@@worstworkshop That's awesome! I just rewatched your workbench video because I had forgotten about it when I made my first comment (forgetfulness is another sign of aging). BTW, I noticed you have a flag in a shadow box above your "fancy" backdrop. Was that for a relative?
@@mikehodges6598 Yes. I'm glad you noticed. My great uncle Bobby died in WWII, and that's his burial flag. I was torn as to whether or not to include it in the "set," but I think my family will be proud to see it there.
Who cares about overtime - You're a genius..
That's very kind. Thanks!
What I'd say is that T-Guide thing that gave you so much trouble, you don't really need it. Just keep the two pieces separate. Maybe not as satisfying from an artistic point of view, but hey. My motto is, whatever works.
You're right. It totally works that way.
One word - "totally awesome!" . . . Ok, two words then 😊
One word or two, I appreciate it!
thx
In reality you don’t need the concave peace just the curved peace
You're not wrong. Essentially, that would allow for one point of contact on that side, but the other piece means you probably have at least two. It would work though.
It has been a thing for decades and decades mostly with a ball joint so it can handle angles in all directions.
You're talking about pivoting vise jaws, right? Yes, absolutely. Wilton sells a vise now with an integrated one. The innovation here is building a simple version at home.
@@worstworkshop Yes, it would be harder to make a pivot one. But with a 3D printer it is possible. I made a lot of them as replacement for schools work benches since that kind wasn't possible to order.
Good work!
Thanks for the tip and idea.
Something I can really use.
As for AURA, not so much.
Inform your viewers to Pay for a full years subscription up front or Aura won’t help you.
They offer a month to month subscription where they treat these subscribers as low level members that do not deserve full support.
CAREFUL!
Sorry for this negative comment regarding AURA Service but I felt people should know.
That's ok, Ben! Thanks for your feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed the video!!
use hot glue in combination with ca, first the hot glue holds it together later the ca glue has the strenght.
That's a good thought!
Lol love it . Great video
Glad you got a laugh out of it!
The British have vices. When Americans have vices the vice squad shows up then. But if you spell vise with an S then it's OK here.
Oh snap! I changed that title late last night and missed the spelling error. Thank you!
@@worstworkshop vice is correct in UK English. Anymore I've taken to saying that I speak American these days. Our respective languages have diverged quite a bit over the course of time. A lot of Americans get the vice/vise thing wrong though. I see it a lot. "Vice Grips" Yeah you read.
Use the five minute epoxy. I reckon that's the ease of use vs strength compromise.
That's a great idea.
It is a very simple version of a fractal vice jaw.
The youngest older person I've ever seen. Or the oldest young person
Thanks! I actually turned 51 while filming this video.
That's just a very simplified fractal vise.
My vise can be used straight or pivot
That's cool. Which vise do you have?
@@worstworkshopThe old patternmaker's vises like the famous Emmerts have a jaw that swivels with a knob. It does have a limited range of angling. Your method would increase the "weird" holding capability regardless!
@@worstworkshop it's a Wilton
Comes w a front plate that you can insert and pivot
Yes, I've seen those Wilton vises. I didn't know you could remove the pivoting plate though. That vise was part of the inspiration for this. Thanks for sharing your experience.
Is there a reason a person couldn't use wedges of wood to hold tapered items in a vise?
Wedges work. You don't even need that. Lee Valley will sell you vise rack stops, or you can make your own. Rex Krueger is a big proponent of them.
@@worstworkshop Perhaps, but that wedge of wood I can make from scrap sitting around my garage is free... with the exception of my labor.
I have been wondering why no one has not yet to come up with a DIY plan for making a woodworking fractal vise with scraps. 😂 Idea itself is revolutionary, nonetheless.🎉
It could be developed further, to make it more like a traditional fractal vise. I thought about it, but it seems two points of contact on each side are enough.
Take a look at a “Fractal Vise” engineers solved this years ago.
Oh, I know. I've watched restoration videos on them, along with Adam Savage's videos on his. This is really just a pivoting vise jaw. You can buy one from Wilton with it built in, but mine can be removed, and is a LOT cheaper.
Ever hear of bendy plywood??? Lol
Hot glue is for teaching kids to hold the cold end of a tool, and maybe arts and crafts, NOT for engineering.
I'm just honored someone would compare what I do to engineering!
Except that engineers do use hot glue. They also use plastic injection molding which is the same process. And 3D printing is identical to using hot glue.
now put one of those on both sides, then put two that are half their size inside of them, then put two that are half their size on the face of... oh... that's just a fractal vice 🤔🤷♂️
You first! Make it and maybe Adam Savage will feature you on his channel
Used something very similar back in the 70's. Not for wood but for odd shaped metal items. Same principal. I like the way you implemented it. 😉
Thanks!
Fun fact; you probably meant principle ;P
Look up "principal". Since it is an actual word autocorrect couldn't help you (or maybe it sabotaged you?)
@@TNH91 You are correct. Thank you.
How about a spare hard drive not connected to the internet much cheaper and very safe
Sure!
Now to wait to see if you take it a few steps further and make a full fractal vise to hold even more oddly shaped pieces.
I actually thought of that, but I'm not sure how practical it would be. Two points of contact on each side seems like enough. It might make for an interesting video though.
Dont think CA-Glue is the way to go! take your time and do woodglue . maybe your not finish in 3h but it last a lot longer.
I agree. It turns it into a three-day project if you soak the MDF, but the jig should last for years.
What type of vice are we talkin' about? Gambling, driving, smoking, sex? Enquiring minds want to know.
Spelling can be a vice too. I changed the title late last night and goofed. Fixed!
@@worstworkshop Just part of a fine tradition of woodworking social media posts! 😁
First video of yours I've seen ...
👍🏾👍🏼👍 *SUBSCRIBE*
I do plan to make this.
*NOTE* if you are prematurely gray and clearly not old, don't call yourself old. Those of us who really are old can tell the difference. 🤨 😉
I'm looking forward to watching a few more vids of yours. ✔️
Thanks! I'll try to remember that.