New MCU Daredevil Series Coming to Disney+....And I'm Concerned!
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- It was announced that Disney+ is bringing us a new season (or new series) of Daredevil. While this should get me excited, I am met only with concern. Here are my thoughts.
#Daredevil
I don’t understand why they didn’t bring back Erik oleson ( the showrunner of season 3 ) he’s said he wants to come back and had plans for season 4 that included bullseye and Typhoid Mary
The worst part about the writer you mentioned is that according to his IMDB, Oleson hasn't signed on to do other projects, so it's very strange that his schedule is completely free from doing other stuff than Daredevil but Marvel didn't hire him back to write this series
I think it because they do their own thing but I doubt it will be good since the Disney+ are kinda meh.
In today's world there's 3 main explanations: 1.- The traditional and time-proven reason of money 2.- Ideology or directorial disagreements. 3.- Incompetence, which is unlikely but always possible.
From what I’ve seen he’s actually pretty busy at the moment and doesn’t have the time to write for the show sadly
@@SaiyanShoto Where you saw that?
This is why I respect John Bernthal refusing to return as Punisher if they were planning to tone him down, and we all know they would have definitely toned him down. The Punisher is not someone you just tone down. His whole character is that he's not toned down, he doesn't take it easy on criminals. No silly gags or quips.
"You hit them and they get back up. I hit them and they stay down."
I don’t think he refuseing he would return But under one condition
No H in Jon's name but yes 👍
did he really refused tho?
Exactly, the punisher is a killing machine, you can’t tone down his character it’s impossible
I’d rather want daredevil to stay cancelled then getting ruined by the family friendlyness of disney. The show is amazing with the way it is. I hate to see such maturity being taken away
Daredevil wasn’t my jam but I heard how much fans loved it and watched quality commentaries that praised its quality. I would hate to see it devolve into mediocrity as nothing can break a true fan’s heart more.
@@ellicel the mcu is mediocrity
As someone who never knew much about Daredevil, the Netflix series made me a huge fan. I loved the tone, the brutality, and the struggle of trying to do the right thing. I feel Disney will loose sight of that.
Not to mention the fight scenes! Daredevil has some of the best fight scenes put to video.
The only things I've personally seen that compare to it are John Wick, IP Man, and Shang Chi... but disney loves doing 1 million cuts per fight scene, sometimes 6 cuts per punch or kick, and daredevil (and the others mentioned) love those long form, single take fight scenes... I know Shang Chi was disney, but that was fight scene competency, it wasn't superb like the other 3 mentioned. I guess we'll see how they handle it
@@TheLegendofphantom Yes, the fight scenes were amazing. Especially since the bigger fight scenes were filmed in one take.
I will be shocked if Disney+ makes a good Daredevil show
The Daredevil series made the character one of my favorite Marvel characters. They need that tone to carry over to make this work. That Old Boy style choreography, the mature writing, and the human stories all kept the show grounded in a way the MCU hasn't accomplished anywhere else.
Knowing Disney ,they'll strip all of that from DD and give us a watered down version sadly.
It was also written by two guys that grew up on the comics and respected the lore.
I have zero faith in the new writers.
Yep. Glad they may have most of the original cast coming back but it won't mean anything if it gets the typical Disney Marvel treatment.....
And the fight scenes were grounded, no CGI, brutal, hard hitting, and NO DAMN SHAKY CAM.
One of the many aspects I liked about the Netflix Daredevil series, was the complexity of Fisk as a character, and how he had his own story arc right from the beginning of the show, they didn't have the need to wait and reveal him as the "big bad" villain at the end of the season. Him, in his cunning and in the slow thoughtful and careful construction of his empire that he so desired to create; that is until Daredevil put an end to that.
Clearly Marvel can't hardly mimic a character arc such as Fisk's, considering that none of the villains introduced so far have been very interesting or captivating in the D+ shows; and that includes Kingpin's reintroduction in the Hawkeye series, he was really watered down, and was just kind of a dumb brute that wasn't as cunning or thorough as his Daredevil series counterpart.
So I don't hold out much hope for this Daredevil reboot tbh, considering how Kingpin was in Hawkeye.
I agree! The richness and complexity of the characters is what drove the Netflix Daredevil series to reach that level of greatness. Especially the character of Wilson Fisk. He was the "bad guy," sure, but sometimes I was sympathetic to his goals, if not his means. I could understand why he made the choices he did.
I mean, I think it's worth mentioning Thanos had a great (albeit short) in-depth arc. Most MCU-savvy will praise how well Thanos was portrayed, and how well the IW film featured him.
@@zipzzo Well I'm not exactly counting the films, some of them had pretty good villains, especially Thanos. But I was mainly refrencing the villain characters in the Disney+ shows.
I hope they add his cunning and bring him into Spider-man.
I doubt Disney+ can capture the dark and gritty atmosphere that Netflix series had.
Jeremy, I completely agree with you. The moment I heard Disney+ was making a new Daredevil, I was concerned and still am. When I saw Kingpin I also felt his outfit in Hawkeye was off and the way you described it is true. With Netflix Daredevil, they made Kingpin into this man who cared about his appearance to such a meticulous degree. The fact they brought Kingpin back and already gave up there makes me believe they won't put in the same level of effort to make Daredevil what it was on Netflix.
You mean the outfit he wears in the comics????????????
@@boshwa20 everyone in aware that he wore that outfit in the comics but his concern is the change in Kingpins attire which in turn changes how he acts and carries himself. Kingpin in hawkeye is not the same kingpin from Daredevil and thats where some of the concern for Daredevil on Disney+ mostly comes from. If there going to change Kingpin from how he was presented and established in all 3 seasons of Daredevil then it seems evident that Matt/Daredevil will also change as well and not in a good way.
While I love S1 and S3, I think people forgot how much of a mixed bag S2 was, the stuff with the hand and Elektra was just garbage imo. Obviously we have to wait and see to judge ourselves, but the original Daredevil was not always a masterpiece like most people are saying
@@LondonBlue They changed the scarlet witch design to actually look cool
Marvel has forgotten the strong majority of its audience is men. They treat men like a captured audience who will vote marvel every time a show comes out and they now make movies to draw in women with women centric feelings soap opera shows. Come on marvel. Iron man launched you for a reason and it just wasn’t RDJr. Give marvel fans the red meat they want! No more stupid marvel CW/Hallmark shows.
If Marvel can get back their quality writers from the early days and get comfortable getting more violent than usual, than great. But I agree, I don't see Disney letting it happen the way fans would like it to. We still have yet to have a TV-MA or R rated installment in the MCU. (And I'm NOT counting the Netflix tv shows!)
Quality writers? Since when did they have quality writers in their movies?
@@ProtagonisTeneT ironman 1, thor 3, guardian galaxy 1 , infinity war
And the crazy thing about that is that there is overwhelming evidence to show that TV-MA & R-rated superhero stuff works and is huge. Daredevil, Logan, Deadpool, etc.
If disney/marvel just goes for it, it'll be amazing and all the cheers & love will drown out the crybabies who were never going to watch the show to begin with
Can't wait to see what legacy character get turned into a strong colored lesbian (munny is on Froggy) to lecture Murdock. They've already censored violence in Moon knight btw.
Disney shouldn't have bought marvel. All these ratings control isn't sitting well with me
I'm mostly worried about the writers because of their track record. They wrote terrible movies in the past, don't know what to expect with them writing it
The only tiny justification is that the writers of Chernobyl also wrote complete shit before that show.
Bad writers can be made good when given a good team to work with. For example, Mike White wrote The Emoji Movie. But he also wrote School of Rock. Different ends of the spectrum.
You expect something based on their track record, of course, instead of coping
Deck The Halls (2006), The Enemy Within (2019), Covert Affairs (2010-2014) among others.
You fail upwards in Hollywood...
After seeing how they promised moon knight would be "darker and brutal" and seeing the final show .. yes, I'm worried too
Moon Knight sucked to me
Lmao. Did they really say that? It was as tame as can be. I’ve seen darker content in Adam wests Batman.
@@thee_morpheus mcu on a whole has became so dry and overrated. I have no idea why people suck up everything they release so much. Noticed something with mcu too, after watching a lot of the movies more than once, the movie becomes ass. Endgame was the end for me
@@Bopmyglizz Yeah, honestly I thought No Way Home was overrated too. But I was never a huge Spiderman fan
I loved the show but brutal?Really?
As a crew member of the original Netflix run. Filming in NY with a NY crew Def. Helps with differentiating those shows from the rest of the MCU. They were produced under Jeph Loeb as well not Kevin Feige. I too am worried that it won't feel the same, hopefully they don't shoot it in Georgia like the rest of the TV shows with just a quick NY unit.
Thanks for adding your personal experience to the discussions!
Thank you for your contribution to this amazing show!
I think daredevil is actually just a spin off Intro for Echo.
anyone can just say they’re a crew member of a show and people will buy it? smh😭
@@Cornyboa what would they gain from lying? a couple likes? also is it that hard to believe tv show/movie crewmembers watch youtube?
The Netflix Daredevil is one of the best 3 seasons of television I've ever seen. I think it is one of the best superhero shows ever made (in my opinion). I don't have confidence that Disney will stick to the formula that made Daredevil a success at Netflix. I'm worried they will water it down just so it can be put on Disney+.
The Elektra show costarring Daredevil.
I thought the studio that created the Netflix Marvel Universe is no longer.
Exactly daredevil and the punisher are my favorite shows and I don't want it to end up like moon knight.
@@AMERICADG76 my thoughts exactly. I got extremely disappointed with Moon Knight's first two episodes, I stopped watching. No drive to continue watching a caricature.
Netflix Daredevil is way better than MCU Spider-Man.
I’m concerned, you pointed it out perfectly. They shouldn’t nerf Daredevil and the violence, it wouldn’t work in their favor. Disney has already had to put parental controls for their service after adding the Netflix series it doesn’t make sense to dull down the tone of shows for a different audience.
There is so much family friendly content in these shows and movies to this day, but where it caters to younger viewers what about the adult viewers? Some of us have grown up with these shows and many of us are young adults/adults with different and mature tastes of entertainment. If Disney and affiliates won’t view adult content such as Netflix’s Daredevil, they’re only hurting themselves since most of us do want unfiltered violence that’s not afraid to show blood.
Disney/Marvel you have adult fans, you can make adult mature content and still keep your “Disney Brand” look by just making more R and TV-14 ratings and simply child-support your services.
@SmashStomp Inc that’s just not even true
@@thorodinson1933 It definitely is. Star Wars is a big example.
Hot take: Violence =/= maturity. In fact I'd argue the complete opposite
They make billions being basic and family friendly, so it's impossible to convince them to do something different at this point
It’ll be just fine, Daredevil never needed that level of violence anyways
Daredevil is literally the reason I signed up for Netflix, it was a totally new thing for me. I'm already pretty sad, because just from what happened in Hawkeye, already tells me it's gonna fall far from the tone in the original series. I have no expectations for this new series, and I'm really bummed because of that
I think we need to separate the 2. I am fairly confident it won't continue where it left off so it won't be that hard to do so. Don't let the new show ruin the original for you.
Ha same bro same that & Gotham made me subscribe
Daredevil-introducing the new woman character who is the actual star of the show!
It's going to be Daredevil for children. The same people they are marketing that horrible Ms Marvel show to will like this.
Look at what they did to Kingpin! They thought NOTHING about introducing Kingpin in Hawkeye only to have him get his ass kicked by a teenage GIRL!!!!
@@scalpingsnake it definitely won't ruin the original for me, because I can still watch it whenever I want. But I'm just sad that we're probably never getting a similar tone or version of those characters. Sure, they're still the same actors, but i feel the vibe is gonna be more soulless
It was heartbreaking when Netflix cancelled the show and i'm glad i'm not the only one concerned with a new/revival show on Disney Plus. The fact that they're not bringing back the people behind the camera of the original show just tells that they're going in a different direction (aside from the obvious PG 13 rating).
Disney pulled the plug on the deal, not Netflix. Netflix has certainly cancelled things they shouldn't have, but this one is all on Disney.
Its been confirmed the show will be 18+
@@SpinoSam 18+ but who are the show runners?
@@SpinoSam i doubt that
its not going to be same show, they got different people working on it, its going suck, especially since Disney is going full on woke, look at Doctor Strange 2 drop off in second week 81% that isn't good sign people getting tired of politics, and to many movies and shows are coming out, the TV shows are all a mess they are terrible.
Karen’s actress Deborah Ann Woll hasn’t had a single acting role since Season 3 of Daredevil ended from what I know. She deserves tons more attention as she’s very talented. I hope she comes back big time, such a shame she’s been left alone as she loves acting with all her heart :(
Check IMDb. She’s still acting.
Not entirely true. She was in the movie Escape Room. But aside from that she has had a very difficult time getting work for some reason. I agree she is very talented, and wonder what is blocking her from getting roles.
@@Regitron3000 she been in a few other things. Once again check her IMDb resume.
Ah gotcha fellas, I was remembering my info from an interview she did probably a few years ago. She still needs more mainstream recognition for sure
She has over 1 million followers on her Instagram, she already has mainstream recognition, but she really needs more acting roles for her career.
I should be really happy that one of my favorite shows is coming back. The problem: I see the name Disney in the headline
I think Elektra will probably be in the series.. but they low-key just add her in there so she can get her own show in the future- type of thing.
so right
@@firstlast9846 she died, unless it’s in ghost form, she shouldn’t be anywhere near this show
it's like a MK fatality...dundunduh...finish him! ... Disneyality!
Knowing Disney they’ll totally dismantle daredevils faith and make him feel bad for being a catholic
I totally agree, I wanna see them tackle how intense dardevil originally was, not tone it down too excessively
Good luck. You'll get woke nonsense and cringe comedy... That's all they can do now
Ikr
@@beardsarejustfacepubes5682 don't put em on fax bro
They're not going to tackle anything. They'll introduce a female character who's better at everything and make Daredevil her doofy sidekick. They'll ruin him like they did Loki, Hawkeye, Hulk, Ant-man, and Moonknight. I almost wish they'd recasted it so I can't get my hopes up.
@@beardsarejustfacepubes5682 Why Disney.. Just why 😭
I 100% agree. I stated as much on a Twitter thread that the person hoped for more "humor" in the up coming Daredevil. I replied that didn't they have 28 movies and 7 shows with it. Why can't Disney produce something for adults, like the Netflix Daredevil. I have no faith in it.
daredevil season 4 and matt stumbles on foggy Nelson playing fortnite, god please no
Ew a twitter user
Humor shouldn't be a problem as long as they don't make him too 'quippy'. There are very funny character interactions in Defenders, where Charlie Cox is completely in character, but still gets laughs. It only works with him playing the straight man, though.
(This is of course not counting the many funny Matt/Foggy interactions, as those only really work between those two characters.)
@@-TonytheArtist
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Seriously! If they are going to make a family friendly daredevil show, then I honestly don't want it. Or call it something else (like "Daredevil & Pals" ). Daredevil was a show for adults. Period. And if they want to bask in the success of the first 3 seasons, they need to forget about kids for one show.
I hope they know that it's okay to make one single show that can only be watched at night after the kids are in bed
I have been finding recent with the interconnected parts, is that they have crossed some kind of line and seem to be straying further and further, and I don't know if its because of some of the stuff Jeremy is mentioning here, they no longer have to proove themselves, so they can just do whatever they want.
In the early MCU, you would see a character and be like "Hey, I remember them from that other thing" but they would still work in the context of the movie they were crossing over into. In the more recent movies, especially Dr Strange 2, you would have characters show up, and unless you had watched specific content (like Wandavision) you would have no idea who they were, or why they were acting the way they were acting, and I'm really worried about this getting worse as time goes on. Some MCU movies really start to fall apart as being functional movies and may as well be episodes of the MCU TV Show.
Well said
"Some MCU movies really start to fall apart as being functional movies and may as well be episodes of the MCU TV Show."
Like every Avangers movie? Civil War?
The MCU has allways been a cinematic TV show. That's why even its mediocre episodes(movies) are successful, because people wanna see it to understand the rest of the season(phase).
@@Ukaran This. I dont understand why people are now thinking this way. After Avengers 2012, MCU became cinematic TV show going into Phase 2 like you said with so many standalone movies now not making sense unless you watched a prior MCU film. Do people really thought they be able to understand Iron Man 3 if they didn't watch Avengers 2012?? or Civil War without AoU and Winter Soldier?? Hell even Spiderman homecoming would have been a little confusing without watching civil war first. Legit, the only MCU films that work as independent functional films is the entirety of Phase 1, Dr. Strange and the Guardians of the galaxy films.
@@kevintyson1947 ppl are just using any excuse to hate on the MCU these days. Basically it's the old "live long enough to become the villain" kind of thing. They will hate on the MCU no matter what, even tho they just brought back their CANCELLED favorite tv show, yet they still cry and moan because it might have "jokes" in it.
Infinity War and Endgame were... well the endgame. It feels to me like trying to sell a 20 year old Nissan by putting a spoiler, and new hubcaps and new exhaust on it. It just doesn't feel right anymore. I have to say though, "They'll never know what you sacrificed" and infinity stone paperweights were the final nails in the coffin for me.
Daredevil was arguably the greatest comic book tv series ever made. I’m not confident this new series can live up to it regardless of who it’s made by.
People upset that they're making comic book movies like their actual comic counterparts and there won't be constant blood and violence lol
@@streetrat48 you clearly never read Brian Michael bendis daredevil lol
@@streetrat48 Imagine thinking Disney is gonna make DD like his actual comic counterpart. Especially since DareDevil has blood and violence in the comics. Freaking disneybots I swear..
@@streetrat48 what r u sayin ? Why make it like comic when its already better in live action if according to you comic book story is like mcu movies
Its gonna be pg 13 cause disney+ meaning less blood less violence, more "message" woke whatnot, religion, politics, probably introduce female strong characters 🙄
What drew me to Daredevil was the brutal fight scenes along with a good storyline. Well choreographed and executed. The Disney MCU shows seem to be softer. I am concerned that Daredevil season 4 would lose its edginess. The Disney MCU shows start good but fizzle with just 6 episodes. None of the MCU shows left me wanting more.
Agreed it most definitely isn’t going to be the same as the Netflix series, Disney has always been and will always be more focused on getting a broader audience rather than focusing on one demographic.
Another thing that makes Disney’s stuff different is that prior to infinity war they were following an established roadmap that was at least looking ahead five or six years in advance the entire time. Which is why it feels at least to me like now they’re just throwing darts at a dartboard to see what might work.
Those punches that Daredevil threw at Fisk looked fake as fuck
@@shadshadow201 At least they were done with real people. MCU doesn't know how to make epic fight scenes with anything but bombastic CGI. And they feel the need to kill all their villains. They saved Loki just to end up emasculating him for some reason. I don't understand their goals or who their target audience is anymore.
@@shadshadow201 Still better than quick cuts, shaky cam bullshit. At least in almost every fight scene in Daredevil I can see whats going on clearly and they take advantage of one shot camera work. You can tell the stunt people, the actors and cinematography really put in a lot of hard work to bring Daredevil’s fighting style to life with respect; the hallway fights took hours to film for example. It might not always look perfect; Cox is not an MMA fighter in real life, but they all did a fantastic job given the budget and time constraints of the show. Marvel used CG to enhance the fights in Shang Chi on a much larger budget than Daredevil.
I wouldn’t mind a slightly more light hearted story given everything that happened to Matt, but with Fisk and Bullseye (maybe) making a return it’d be hard to balance that, plus the tone of the show should still be more mature and deal with more complex themes like the original show.
I am concern too after seeing what they did to Kingpin in Hawkeye, I think the series is better left alone at this point. I don't think even to date Netflix can do it justice (I think Season 3 is still some of the best comic book adaptation series out there but compare to ss1 and ss2, its a tier below to me).
Jake from CZcams - Kingpin in the Netflix series and comics.. is a literal menace - and a mastermind - it took 3 seasons.. a joint effort of the FBI, NYPD, a bunch of journalists, lawyers and a vigilante to take Fisk down.. the Vigilante was really the only person equipped to take down Fisk and even he considered Fisk to be the bane of his existence.. *The Hawkeye* show dismantled him in one night - by a teenager.. while he ran around with goofy bodyguards who call themselves the “Tracksuit Mafia”
i think season 3 finale was perfect it seemed like the 3 of them are going back to normal and bullseye will be working for the government instead
Season 3’s deconstruction and subsequent construction of Matt Murdock’s character puts it a tier above S2 for me. Personally, S1 = S3 > S2.
Season 2 sucks. Punisher sucks
@@NeverQuit87 nice argument bro
I love these types of videos from Jeremy where he just talks about a topic he feels strongly about, I'd welcome more like this!
I’d like for the series to have its own gritty aesthetic like Reeves’ Batman. Would work well for Daredevil
It depends on the writers too tho, Marvel has its own formula too, they might use the same tone as the Netflix ones but would still sprinkles out some unnecessary cringe jokes in it like some MCU stuff that the humor don't always work
Exactly dark cinematography like that would be crazy aff
Hopefully they go that route 🤞🏼
You mean...like how the original show was?
After they butchered moon knight my hopes of daredevil being good is pretty much non existent
I said it before and I'll say it again. Having the cast back isn't enough, you also severely need the whole creative team back. I don't think I'll ever be comfortable with other people handling Daredevil especially after what they did with Kingpin in Hawkeye. It's like the original Daredevil creative team did a masterpiece of a painting, then other people showed up and straight up drew scribbles on top of it. Marvel can't just let Daredevil go to waste, it's just too good, nothing in the MCU has even come close to it yet. Either they maintain the quality and direction by having the original creative team back or they just leave it be as it is, because as much as the fans want Daredevil back, we don't want it to be butchered, especially since the season 3 ending is already absolute perfection, and looking at what happened with Hawkeye, it's really concerning how they handle it.
And also, being limited to pg-13 isn't an excuse, cause there's so many pg-13 out there that isn't watered-down and still has maturity. The Batman, Iron Man 1, Captain America 2, Doctor Strange 2, all pg-13, keeping the atmosphere of Daredevil is manageable, they just have to make sure they respect and understand the show because violence is one of its main theme, we wouldn't want another "Hawkeye" situation. And Jeremy's right here, Moon Knight could've had the same atmosphere because in the comics, both DD & MK were Marvel Knights, their themes & vibe are very similar, and yet they still went for the safe play for Moon Knight, all the more reason to be worried for DD season 4...
Well, the whole creative team includes Jeph Loeb, Feige hates him though and all seasons that different showrunners.
But i agree that this will suck, just look at how tame Moon Knight was, that shit was ridiculous.
@@MaxIronsThird true. Plus, Feige is prideful asf, he couldn't accept the fact that the best thing that came out of the MCU, which is Daredevil, isn't one of his productions.
The solution is obvious, they need a new team of diversity woke driven people that can’t include white men . DareDevil should become transgender to reflect the modern MCU audience
@Jack Dawson Yeah totally, “woke “ is totally what we’re talking about. Lol if I had a dime for someone that used those terms and applied to anything they don’t like I wouldn’t be commenting on CZcams lol
@@jdaws4896 Just for that I now hope they do recast DD with a trans actor just so it'll piss you off
Imagine hallway scene in daredevil but now daredevil will stop after every single punch to make a one liner..that's what will happen here
And they will edit it so every punch is it’s own cut
OMG that's sadly true😭😭😭
"you didn't see that coming" daredevil disney plus
@@metelineblue294 man the possibility of this happening is 1000000%
Looool disappointment is immeasurable
As someone who’s favorite marvel comics character is Daredevil, I adore the Netflix series. Because they absolutely honored the source material. I’m right there with you on all of this Jeremy. I’m kinda nervous that the Netflix show will be like the art and going forward we will be getting the generic pop stuff with this lovely character. Damn shame too. Matt deserves better.
Jeremy hit the nail on the head talking about how safe and clean and formulaic the MCU has become. Honestly after Moon Knight, I can't get excited for any of it anymore. Because now I know that even when they get that creativity back, even when they find that dramatic character writing again, it'll be ripped out from under us in favor of a safe-for-all-audiences CGI/offscreen fight and "quirky" characters boomers think appeal to Gen Z
The MCU is not what it used to be anymore but I'm worried Daredevil is going to suck.
Yeah I'll be honest Moon Knight had some good moments BUT. The action.....it was really disappointing. I remember they kept saying Moon Knight would keep beating on opponents and you would wonder if he would stop, but he wouldn't.
That never happened...I never saw the brutality of Moon Knight. And when it comes to Daredevil and Punisher and Blade....those characters work with the dark, brutal serious tone. Making them light tone just won't work.
THANK YOU. Thank you for bringing up the arch villain fight WE DIDN'T GET TO SEE. I honestly don't think they had an actual fight written. The whole series felt like that to me.
They flavor it for Gen Z. Boomers and GenX want Blood, guts, twists, turns, and true to character growth. F' the kids!!
@@lifeinjersey9846 another problem was that the fighting felt weightless and unimpactful. In the movie The Batman, you could feel when Batman punches a thug. Moon knight it felt action figures being hit together, there was no weight or sense of impact. I’m surprised so many people liked that show
Daredevil is the best thing that has come out of the MCU. Nearly every disney+ show has been mediocre. Definitely worried.
Ironically NOT from the MCU
@@bochatube it was the mcu
@@bochatube You mean not from Marvel Studios, but technically is MCU canon.
@@Drifter1989 but are they though? its never been officialy confirmed.
Matt Murdock appeared in Spiderman NWH but thats it. Theres not been am statement from Kevin Feige or anyone
@@rileyscherer129 is Iron Fist in the MCU?
I 100% agree with you Jeremy. I constantly talk about the MCU safe zone on my channel. It's a very real thing and people just seem to accept it and give Marvel a free pass.
They didn't even hire the original showrunners and hired their own team to write it which REALLY concerns me.
EDIT:
Turns out I was right to be concerned, as they fired the writers after filming around 9 episodes of the MCU's Daredevil Born Again... and Kevin Feige STILL didn't hire Eric Olsen to helm the show. 🙄
When Disney bought Star Wars, I thought: this can't be good.
When Disney bought Marvel, I thought the same. Now that Disney owns everything, everything feels the same, and it sucks.
Seriously. It’s all: humor, CGI action, more filtered censored humor and CGI action, set up for other movie or character. It was cool at first but it’s getting really predictable and boring. It kinda feels like they aren’t trying to make a decent movie or show anymore because they know the audience will watch anything just to connect the dots within the MCU. I love the characters and all but all these new MCU/Disney+ movies or shows follow the same plot and structure. They’re over milking their cash cow and I genuinely feel like it’s gonna hurt comic book movies in the long run.
No personality, or sense of identity. Just a brand.
Better than dc
@@Supreme_Bargainer Not wrong, but nothing to be proud about.
Watch The Boys before it gets bought by Disney
Honest to God I personally hate this. Say what you will about Netflix but they take risk. Daredevil Netflix is one of the best written shows of all time. Up there with breaking bad and GOT. The mcu shows are fun shows with really good character arcs and costume upgrades. Wandavision and mando are the best of the Disney+ shows. I love both of them bit what set DD apart was its grit and realism. The violence wasn't just for the sake of violence it told story. It showed what Matt was up against and how even in those darkest moments he'd still be the hero. The way they made kingpin in Hawkeye gives me no faith. You can tell they soften the character up a bit. Made him a little dumber and a brute. I can only imagine what they'd do to Daredevil
exactly you should be afraid for the character lives when they are in the same room as Kingpin. it should feel like one wrong move and you might get you head turned into mush. he just didn't have that presence in Hawkeye. i never felt like Kate Bishop or anyone else was ever in an danger when he was around.
Ah, people nowadays, having no issue fitting honesty to god and hate in one sentence. Having always hate in your hearts while on the other side always telling everyone that you are true Christians.
You don't think marvel studios take risk?
@@Asupernaruto1 Absolutely they don't. They literally only make action-comedies.
Netflix didn't actually produce the Netflix Marvel shows, it was ABC Studios and Jeph Loeb's Marvel Television studio, and Netflix only had the distribution rights until they expired and the shows moved to Disney+.
I'm scared too. There is a deep attention to detail of themes and ideas in Daredevil that I'm still catching on rewatches. It's so well made. I've never seen the mcu do that in a certain way. It's scary.
You know what's my biggest issue with MCU post-endgame, aside from the obvious problems? Most of the shows have these large plots which include these global threats. Disney is no longer telling grounded stories, they're no longer giving the audience the opportunity to spend time with the character. Hawkeye was rubbish but atleast the show had a simple grounded plot: Barton just wanted to make it home to his family in time for Christmas - and I appreciated that.
This is what I loved about Daredevil. It left all the "save the earth" type stuff to The Avengers, and focused on small scale stories, allowing the story to breathe while also not neglecting the side characters. Each season is well paced and the show runners do a good job of balancing action with the drama. They welcome the audience to experience the daily struggles of these characters with them such that when the final conclusion arrives, it feels well earned. You can tell through the technical mastery of the show, and how the show is handled from a thematic point of view, that everyone involed really cared about the project.
I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there - Pre Endgame, every marvel film/series would have, at MOST, a threat that MIGHT become a global threat (no more dangerous, really, than a pandemic) and so the stories were all grounded. Whereas now… everything has to be a universe ending threat and that’s… that’s an Endgame level scenario for almost every storyline. What are they going to build towards now? They should have gone back to grounded threats each film, building up to the Multiverse and then revealing the reason the Multiverse is a threat in an Avengers film so that we could build towards the Multiverse being a problem in some respect - whereas now… we’ve had What If and MV o Madness and Loki and No Way Home and it’s like… okay… what are the Avengers going to fight now, that is more dangerous than something that can travel between universes and destroy everything?
If every Marvel thing is universe level threat - it’s boring; so, like you said, leave all the “save the earth” type stuff to the Avengers and let us follow some characters around making good and bad choices so that we have some people to root for when the world/universe starts to end. Because… when the universe starts to end, so what? I don’t give a shit about any of these characters because all I’ve seen them do is deal with universe ending stakes and that’s not a thing I can really connect with, being a non-super-human of one-single-universe.
Ramble ramble ramble… 😂
yup you make some good points, but we seen Hawkeye a bunch before his show. Avengers 1, 2, 3, 4, civil war, and Thor
I remember when Daredevil came out it was everything I didn't know I was missing from the MCU movies. Great characters, visceral grounded action, and a villain that actually seemed menacing. A lot of what makes that work is that more mature tone. Every punch, kick, and gunshot felt like it hurt. It wasn't without humor, but it's humor didn't detract from the drama of the story. Also, Charlie Cox freaking brought it. He brought the vulnerability, and fire, of daredevil, as well as the physical presence. He has talked numerous times about how much he loved stage fighting and having him be able to be front and center during action scenes helped feel his struggle and exhaustion. I would love it if they brought it back, but only if they could bring it back that way. If it is to much like the other MTVU shows, I'll pass. But good for the actors if they can get the work, I know they will do their best, but I wish they all could get more work because they killed it on that show. Also someone should put Charlie Cox in more action films.
One thing I think made daredevil so good is that each season was 13 episodes, that length helped make you feel the Presence of Wilson Fisk, the Struggle of Protagonists to beat their enemies and get you into the world. I’m not saying it has to be 13 I just feel like 6 episodes will not be enough,
Maybe 9 like she hulk
Hold up, It’s Marvels own platform, isn’t it? They could just make another 13 episode D+ season. There’s really nothing stopping them…
13 always felt overly long though, there was always an episode or 2 that felt tacked on, that was bc Netflix demanded 13 episodes, but i agree that 6 episodes that D+ is garbage and is basically a slightly elongated movie.
9 or 10 should be the sweet spot.
@@MaxIronsThird That was definitely the case with Jessica Jones, Luke Cage and Iron Fist. Never once did I feel like Daredevil had too many episodes though. Everything was necessary.
You can’t go 13, cause one probably all the Netflix shows had (except Defenders ironically enough) is that it did feel too long. 10 episodes feels like enough. Don’t go 13 unless you’re going to have some filler episodes to give viewers a breather.
I'm glad I'm not the only one with reservations about this announcement. You're right that no one can recapture what Netflix did with their Marvel shows, especially Daredevil.
Vincent D'Onofrio did SUCH an awesome job with Kingpin, truly one of the most perfect casting choices ever, that it would be a crying shame to not let him continue his saga. Charlie Cox, Deborah Ann Woll, Elden Henson, all of them are now thoroughly ingrained in our minds as being the principles for Daredevil, that a Daredevil resurrection simply wouldn't be Daredevil without them.
I would much prefer it if Disney continued the series as season four with the preceding three Netflix seasons as canon with the same atmosphere and tone, but I'll take what I can get. I just hope they bring back Jon Bernthal as Punisher in his own continuing series.
I think the new Daredevil will be a good indicator of the future and how they handle other more intense characters like Wolverine, Deadpool, etc. Dr Strange 2 showed they CAN make a more intense and visceral character/show. But are they willing to match something like the Netflix shows?
Nah, dr strange 2 is garbage
Dr Strange 2 wasn't that visceral and intense. It's a 2 percent increase in intensity from the regular movies at max, so that's not the best example. And it was a garbage movie 🙂🙂
Garbage is still garbage even when you put it in a gold plated rubbish bin.
@@yogeshpipada4420 the movie literally had somebody's head imploding from the inside AND another getting their face torn. It was plenty visceral.
@@nickelsdimes8643 I didn't say it was a good movie with good characters. I said it was a more intense movie with more intense characters.
I want to be excited for a season 4 but I feel that Disney would make it far less violent and take away a lot of the detectivy work and drama and replace it with more action sequences
Did you not see Multiverse of Madness? It's about as gory as you can get without an R rating.
@@AndreThompson925 But there is only so far they can go before they are required to put a TV-MA or R rating on a show/movie. And Daredevil was unquestionably & unapologetically TV-MA.
And if they are too scared to go all the way with it (to do what the first 3 seasons on netflix did) it just won't be the same... and worst case scenario, it'll be a sad shell of it's former self.
I appreciate your optimism though, and I'm hoping for the best
@@TheLegendofphantom it's on D+ as is, IJS
@@AndreThompson925 I don't think MoM was as gory or dark as Daredevil.
didnt they add all 3 seasons of daredevil to disney+ already? i don’t see why they would need to tone it down if they already have the original show on there. 🤷♂️
I agree with everything Jeremy said here. I’m definitely cautiously optimistic about it. Obviously we all hope it’s as good as the first three seasons but I’m not expecting it to be anywhere near it. Im just hoping it’s not bad. Which kinda sucks, but here we are lol.
Unless Marvel studios changes the way it has been developing it's shows for the last two years, I have little faith.
@@TheFreshSoundsFlorida Yeah I hear you. WandaVision was great and I’ve at least liked and enjoyed the others. But it’s the stupid 6 episode format that they seem to love. Every show feels like an overly drawn out movie or a very rushed show. They need to move away from it.
3 was already not that good
@@vicmartone cap lmaooo
@@haitiankid9456 fr, if anything it's the second season that isn't as good as the other ones.
Dude, spot on about Heroes. Season 1 was some AMAZING television - especially for network television standards. Daredevil reached heights I didn’t think were possible in a series. The fights are jaw-dropping incredible. Watching the Phase 1 movies made me mad because as you mentioned, we will NEVER get this again. MCU is just going to sell based on name recognition alone which is why they are becoming tent pools instead of trying to earn the audience’s trust. I felt Moon Knight was the closest we were going to get to Daredevil levels but Disney still pushes kid based spectacle at the audience with EVERY turn: animated mascots, whimsical magical Mickey Mousing moments seemingly straight out of Fantasia, a third act of Star Wars - Tie Fighter “Use the force, Luke”- esque moments, expendable monsters that secondary heroes easily dispatch which looks like one huge merchandising toy commercial. It just becomes exasperatingly formulaic!
Jeremy I agree. I'm also concerned. I've seen people give the counter argument, "oh you only liked Netflix Daredevil etc. because it was violent/gory and you're not giving the MCU Daredevil a chance, as long as it has good writing it will be a great series". That's not the point, the Netflix Daredevil series had great writing too, and with that came a completely different tone with more adult and darker themes. The MCU has its own completely different tone and themes, and I'm thinking this will be imposed on MCU Daredevil, and so it will feel completely different. Granted not all of the series Netflix produced were perfect, some of them definitely had problems. But I loved Daredevil/Jessica Jones/Luke Cage etc. because they are completely and utterly different to what the MCU produces. They were like a breath of fresh air. After watching them it made me realise how vanilla and one note everything is which Marvel Studios produces. Don't get me wrong I don't hate their movies, but sometimes I want something different, something with more zest. So far every movie has been a 12 (PG-13), haven't had any 15 (R rated). I also agree that post-Infinty War it's looking unlikely they will be able to create the same magic they were able to pre-Infinty War. They keep saying Deadpool will keep to the same tone as the first two movies made at 20th Century Fox (if so, this will be the first R rated Marvel movie). So I'm unsure why they couldn't do the same with Daredevil, Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and The Punisher. I'm glad Bernthal won't return, because The Punisher has to be dark and violent, that's his persona, he fricks bad guys up. Plus, he has the fricking name 'The Punisher' after all.
I think Disney would really benefit from having its own “Adult Swim”. What do I mean? Well Cartoon Network was mostly made for kids and was a huge success with hit shows like Powerpuff Girls and Dexter’s Laboratory. But tonally, CN wouldn’t make sense airing heavier shows like Dragonball Z, Rick and Morty or Batman Beyond. So CN decided to create its own programming block for more mature viewers. Disney+ already has Starz, they could easily create another block and put Daredevil in it. Therefore, Disney can still remain child-friendly and not lose it’s branding style.
One thing I noticed a while ago when entering Disney + was it asked me pretty much the level of mature shows I want to be shown on my profile going from g to Tv-ma. This signaled to me (and I may be wrong but this is what I would suspect) is they are begin to introduce more graphic content to the platform and this is their way of allowing users to shape what they are shown on the platform.
They also have Hulu as well and would be more fitting to have it be on Hulu instead
STARZ is under the ownership of Lionsgate not Disney
@@geekprofessor3935 I know but it shows Disney are at least willing to share more adult shows on their platform
Someone in a review of the first season of Jessica Jones said something I won't forget, "Look at what's happening in this show and Daredevil, now imagine the Avengers being funny. Supposedly the same universe but completely different worlds". I was always dreading them MCU-ifying this series and now its gonna happen.
Yes after witnessing a horror themed Dr. Strange 2 film where the Scarlet Witch Murdered people in a gruesome way and Eternals had Marvel's first on screen sex scene but you're right.........👀......not really. Go sit down.
@@UNFITTED1 bruh fr. Like people just want to complain. I get the dark tone but it will be fine.
@@UNFITTED1 How many brain cells do you have that you actually thought that brining up Eternals made a point?
@VV Lowe If you expected Dr. Strange to be Rated R thats your own fault lol.
@@UNFITTED1 I counter your "First sex scene" with "the First Iron Man", within the "First Fifteen Minutes". MCU is toned down
"This city REJECTED you! And BEAT you! I BEAT YOU!"
Original Daredevil was something else entirely.
I'm concerned to be honest. daredevil is one of my favorite shows of all time.
From the script, the characterization, the portrayal that was given by the amazing cast ultimately to the flawless fight choreographies and usage of violence. It was an amazing ride form beginning to end.
I know this may be controversial but none of the Disney+ series has been able to come even close to what DD was able to bring on the screen. They have not caught my attention and finales always fell flat.
Personally Moonknight has been the biggest disappointment to date as they swore they were going to a darker more Netflix shows style and it was completely different to that.
All of the shows are playing it safe for sure and the CGI usage it’s just horrid.
That being said I support everything you said and I back you up for making a video out of this as I’m noticing that people are mostly celebrating but I can’t help but be concerned that they are going to turn such an amazing show to a child’s play.
It's not controversial at all, I feel exactly the same. Daredevil is in my top 3 shows of all time. I had high hopes in Moonknight, and it was a disappointment. They could have made a brilliant show, the character has the potential. But they could not help themselves,. The only thing brilliant about Moonknight was Oscar Isaac's performance.
@@MsLucy4ever You’re literally the first person who has agreed with me. Most of the people who have seen it that I know off, liked the series a lot.
I agree that Oscar Isaac's performance carried the show as well, but ultimately I was so extremely disappointed with everything they did. The only good episode was the one previous to the finale.
But there’s so much a good performance can do. when everything else is lacking.
The fight scenes were horrible and the CGI usage was awful as well. I’m so tired of this Marvel series having this epic CGI battles that look so bad on the screen.
The only series that did not disappointed me was Hawkeye but I think it was because I had no expectations at all, and the christmassy feelings got to me lol.
@@veronicamoravega7754 If the only issues were the CGI and bad fights. The worst is that they promised something different, and while you can see they tried, they failed. The same bad pacing of all D+ shows, the same silly humorous resources to lighten the drama, the same lack of emotional impact, the same bloodless violence. When you see the possibilities that character had, why, oh why? They barely touched on him being Jewish, just a couple of symbols in the background. A Jewish, no less, as "avatar" of an Egiptian "god"!
The episode that tries to dig deeper into Marc's broken mind, should have been devastating, terrible, but they delivered it with frecuent moments of humor that undercut the horror and the emotional impact.
I liked very much Isaac's performance, and liked the music. But overall, watching it was a frustrating experience. In the scene where the hippo godess appears and says "Hi", I'm not a violent person, but I could have punched the mickey mouse in the face.
All the MCU shows on Disney+ have been borderline mid except for Loki, What if.. was also good
@@chuyozuna2398 I think Loki was the “best” but even that was boring at times 💀
I know I’m sound like an anti but I swear I’m not maybe I expect too much from Disney idk 😵💫
the concern is legitimately valid. As of late, the mcu just pushes for more projects that doesn't really have a concrete plot or compelling characters or a consistent theme. They just blurt out comic book references in hopes that people will talk about it more than what the substance is. They know that they have a solid fan base who will eat everything they put out because they have become part of our (pop) culture and everything will always be the same except that its not and that the reality is they have strayed away from their roots, phase 1-2 wise. They aren't building a universe anymore, they're playing around it and it shows from their inconsistencies in established characters to the whole plot/script of their shows/movies. And the fact that disney owns marvel studios now doesn't make their case any better. If this daredevil series gets greenlit, it would be certain to have a cgi spectacle in its finale, not committing on its themes, and worse is character assassination. but at least we've already got a great trilogy before this shitshow even happened
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One thing I found is that I only really watched a lot of the movies for context for the overall plot. I didn't want to go into Endgame without watching Captain Marvel or Thor 2 before ragnarok etc
The overall connectivity game me a reason to care other than the individual movies being good. Without that I just don't want to watch a lot of the stuff.
Tell us how you really feel
Phase 1 especially through Phase 3, it all felt like it was written to be one big connected story that ends in Endgame that will still be fresh and timeless 20 years from now.
Phase 4 MCU, with one expection What If and maybe Dr. Strange 2, all of it reeks like it.was written by Gen Z for Gen Z hashtags and the TikToks and Twitter talk while delivering boring garbage. And before you start screaming Spider-man, Spider-Man at this point was so established before the MCU that everything with him is its own beast, especially No Way Home, that was a celebration of Sony Spider-man that just so happen to be in the MCU
This just my opinion but one of the biggest issues with these streaming platforms is that a LOT of the content exists just to exist. Because the nature of a streaming service (which requires a company to invest billions into) requires constant new material in a drive to attract an ever growing subscriber base. Thus a lot of stuff.....maybe even most of it.....gets made because there is a content quota to meet. Not because some creative person has a great idea or a great story to tell. Which explains so many of these TV shows.
And Di$ne¥ is very much leaning on Marvel to drive new subscriptions (especially with them not coming close to reaching their projections and their stock price falling a lot). Hence It feels to me that most of the Marvel content is just being churned out to meet their content quota to sell their subscription service.
Like Bruce said in end credits of shang chi. Welcome to the circus 🤡. Its all abut "the message" now and being "relatable"
Daredevil is one of the best pieces of media ever created from a comic book property. It was almost lightning in a bottle good. I have no faith that the MCU Daredevil will reach that heights and honestly I've kinda accepted that its not going to be. I just hope we get something good and entertaining really, you can't never make a Daredevil thing again because something was brilliant before and you won't live up to that. It will all come down to the writing which in Phase 4 overall has been pretty poor, it can be a different tone but if the writing and characters are good then that doens't matter.
it was boring bro. are you kidding
I love Miller, but Bendis + Brubaker run was a masterpiece. One of the best comic books reads of all time for me.
@@tekiero go watch no way home
@@tekiero grab your feeder and go watch Hawkeye or some other disney stuff maite.then watch netflix dd a decade later
Daredevil Netflix was in the mcu
I still haven't seen all of the MCU One Shot short films.
3:33 Jeremy hits the nail on the head. Not only do the recent MCU products feel different, they also seem to seek to subvert/challenge/satire the MCU movies (on which shoulders they stand and exist).
You know what’s so great about comics? Every series has unique artists and writers being given a space to have creative freedom and have their voices heard that benefit the stories they tell. You know what sucks about Disney? They do none of those things.
Yup... Disney only does agenda driven self insert characters by incompetent writers right now.
With Matt Murdock appearing in NWH there's the risk of a watered down DD happening now. If Disney want that continuity for future projects then the Netflix DD "dark tone" is dead. Hope I'm wrong...
Seasons 1-3 of Daredevil are the best things to ever come out of Marvel comic books, and I'm about 80% certain that Disney is going to fuck this up. Some predictions:
Matt Murdock's Catholic faith will be downplayed if not completely removed.
They'll go the cheesy route of the Defenders rather than the dark, gritty, brutal seasons 1-3 of Daredevil.
Spot on
groot will cameo in the finale
@@metelineblue294 😂
I’m going to add to your list of predictions and say that they go full Ron Weasley with Foggy and make him a comedic doofus.
The only hope(and it is faint) is that Deadpool is going to be rated R and hopefully they take that same approach with certain characters i.e. Daredevil, Blade, etc. But I'm thinking Deadpool is probably gonna be the only R/TV-MA rated property in the MCU but my fingers are crossed.
Ive just created this mood/feeling where I can simultaneously be hyped for something yet have zero expectations that I somehow am always satisfied with any products.
Exactly as kratos said "keep your expectations low and you'll never be disappointed"
That was the way people used to watch shows. Many of the classics don't have the quality we think they had back then. I am just now rewatching the A-team and well, the writing, continuity and such are not like I remembered them. BUT I still enjoy the show.
I'm just glad I'm not the only one to take a hard pass on Clint finally getting his time in the sun, to be a side character in his own series.
that's why i could not get past 3 episodes of that show. if you want a show where the main character is kate bishop then call the fucking show the kate bishop show
@@nightmare5510 My exact thoughts
@@nightmare5510 Her hero name is also Hawkeye. You might know that if you watched the show.
What I'm worried the most is that the Marvel series that have come out all felt rushed they are all a transition to something bigger or at least it feels like that but because of that and like you said since it's Marvel it's gonna sell we're getting some sloppy products.
Even watching multiverse of madness, I enjoy it but felt uneasy because it's not what the other things were building up, even the title was a big mislead for me. While I think it would be great to see that format of movie on a new character that is not carring the weight of past projects, in this movie didn't click for me.
Multiverse of Madness be like :Hey let's just have two universes. The one everyone knows and the other one that's green with The Suckvengers and that's it, and the madness is just the cool Sam Raimi shit going on with Wanda
I totally agree with absolutely every word and sentiment in this video. I'm pretty much done with the MCU now and only have a curious interest in a couple of upcoming MCU projects, rather than hyped excitement.
ill always be there for spidey. i have my eyes glued on daredevil but no promises. other than that? maaaaaaaaybe the thor movies.
Same
I understand your concern. Recent MCU has felt different as it promotes "the message" and follows the (new) "rules". The Netflix series was visceral and gritty, which doesn't fit with current brand. I do think whatever they make will be it's own thing, if only for licensing reasons
"The message", "rules" ? What ?
I will wager a doughnut that by the second episode, Karen will be blinded in an incident that causes Matt to lose all confidence. By the end of the episode, she will have x-ray echolocation, full-on ESP, and martial arts skills that surpass those of Shang-Chi. She will try to teach Matt to make fuller use of his senses, but will mostly have bail him out, in ways that make it clear he is just holding her back.
Ohhh no not these kinds of people 🤦🤦🤦
bruh what new mcu has promoted the so called message.....
Crtitical Drinker?
Disney doesn't know how to be hardcore. They're too focused on being a "family friendly" company that they can't take chances on anything, not unless it's reasonably distanced from their main brand. I enjoyed Moon Knight, but aside from the abusive mother scenes, it was far from the "dark and brutal" show we were promised. The Netflix shows were ten times darker than Moon Knight (to me, the darkest scene in all of Marvel TV is still the scene in season 2 of Luke Cage when Black Mariah burns that old man alive and he curses her with his dying words). Disney will never get that dark. And if they're not going to go all-out, they shouldn't bother. This was the same problem I had with the Netflix Punisher series-even though the Netflix shows were darker than the rest of the MCU, the Punisher wasn't nearly dark or brutal enough, and it still felt really safe compared to the Punisher of the comics, or even the movie.
You watched the Punisher and came away with "That wasn't brutal enough". Then I doubt you will watch most content and be satisfied
Dude I appreciate SO MUCh that you gave a very simple "spoiler warning", one of my favorite breakdown channels (New Rockstars) was giving a quick reaction to the She-Hulk trailer, and when making a comparison about something he just *randomly* says "oh and this is just like..." and proceeds to say two of the BIGGEST spoilers in MoM in the most casual way, along with screenshots from the movie.
What's wild is this keeps happening with their channel, it's wild how one of the biiggest breakdown channels on YT offers *zero* spoiler warnings, even if the video (like She-Hulk) you'd think you'd be safe from spoilers to another movie. Anyways, just wanted to say I really appreciate the warning.
To be fair the majority of their fan base is hardcore and would’ve seen it in the two weeks since it came out. I think the typical rule is to wait about a week
@@PixlPlayer I hear that too, but I'm with the op on this one. Just after the movie came out ppl were putting pictures of cameos and other spoilers in their titles just so they can get the views. But its stupid imo, because there's no need to. If you've watched the movie just show that, and put spoilers in the video.
@@PixlPlayer i get what you're saying, but people are busy. I've been on really tight study schedules for the last month and will be for another 2. It's simply not feasible despite being a hardcore Marvel fan to go to a theatre.
New rockstars is so ass
You watch that channel at your risk. Any video. Assume something has been spoiled
I've been rewatching Daredevil and the fight scenes are so brutal, such a darker show than what the MCU usually puts out. I'm hoping they keep with that feel and theme. MoM showed that they can do some brutality so I hope they keep up with it
He was the Batman of the MCU and the King of the hallway fights!
Make it as gory and brutal as you want... in the end, if the characters don't act and aren't written the way that made me fall in love with them, you can shove "brutality" up yours. I want the same creative team working on it. Simple as that. I don't trust Phase 4 writers. Yes, not even for No Way Home.
Sorry if giving me cameos or getting the actors back isn't enough, but it's time to go back to the days you actually had to EARN my interest instead of dingling keys in front of me.
@@DeepEye1994 agreed, I also think they rushed into the Multiverse thing way too quick. Should have been teased in the background of Phase 4, Phase 5, and then it actually comes in Phase 6.
The closest thing was probably The Winter Soldier, and they haven't been able to top the fight scenes there.
Disney just needs to be okay with more mature content. Not everything needs to be for the kiddos all the time. Daredevil is a perfect example of that and being successful.
When you try to please everyone no one is pleased.
I love the Netflix marvel daredevil series it was fun, dark, and mysterious in an interesting way. Season 3 was one of the best seasons of any show I have ever watched I loved it. Honestly though I don’t see Disney making the show any where near as good as it was. Matt Murdock is basically the marvels version of Bruce Wayne he’s life is dark his backstory is horrific and his villains he faces are catastrophic. The Netflix show contained dark topics that I know Disney doesn’t know how do right and as much as I love to see Charlie Cox return I have little faith they will do him the justice Netflix marvel gave him. Seeing the new she hulk trailer “attorney at law” I know Matt Murdock will be in it and I can tell by that trailer alone the show will disappointing.
this is why jeremy is one of the biggest voices i take when considering movies/tv shows. all this was my exact reaction to hearing Daredevil getting picked up for another season. its also why i made sure to grab my copies of Daredevil from netflix before it went away. it wouldn't surprise me if D+ edits the netflix series down the road
The series is already on Disney+ as an 18 with all its brutality in tact. I don’t see why they’d change that so I think it’s okay on that front. However I do feel like it could get caught up in the Marvel phase 4 Disney+ show mediocrity we’ve been experiencing lately and might be too heavily tied into the main story rather than being largely it’s own thing like it was on Netflix.
If you believe it's gonna be the same then keep dreaming. The same with punisher and blade.
Violence isn’t the issue.. the Disney shows usually flop in the finale and are hugely predictable.
@@KonohazFinest I believe they are going to release the R rated Punisher movie on Hulu instead. That's a good sign.
@@KonohazFinest if they acted about violence to that degree much they wouldn’t have even put those shows on their platform
@@davidstansbury9309 let's hope because punisher and daredevil are two of my favorite marvel characters.
Things to keep (in order of importance):
1) Keep cast INTACT
2) Yellow-ish filter
3) Violence/blood level
Hallway scenes, Matt's Faith, his complicated relationships
@@SensaiChill Great additions, thx
Actually, the tropical shirt and white suit was Vincent D'Onofrio's idea. It was an easter egg and nod to the 2014 Spiderman comic book series Family Business, that's exactly what The Kingpin wore in the book.
Expecting that Disney will even try to replicate the Netflix "feel" in their show is just naive. Hawkeye deliberately showed it with its Kingpin. BUT there were couple of moments here and there where the "old" Kingpin was there. It was something. In my opinion both sides can meet in the middle and create a good compromise between old and new.
The thing is... I don't even trust Disney to do that. Like, their shows are entertaining to a degree, they keep the viewer glued to the screen. But from a "wider" perspective they're flawed. Their stories are too ambitious so the creators are forced to condense it (sometimes to a very extreme level) in to the either six or nine episode formula. You can see that the budget overall is splintered so much that each show lack something. Couple of shows lacked that one or two episode to tell a complete story [Falcon and Hawkeye], there were some cgi problems here and there [MK and now She Hulk].
Like even with Moon Knight - (at best) it was a decent story with "moments" but from a wider perspective it was a rushed story with multum of plot twists and plot armors used purely for the reason of keeping things moving. And it was just such a wasted potential when it comes to character development and the psychological mindfuck in terms of split personalities. That show was "good" but it could've been way better.
So I'm not even holding my breath for Daredevil show. I have some hopes for him to be with Spiderman for the next trilogy but that's it. Disney never wanted to associate themselves with things that weren't "theirs" and it's obvious that having the old shows on their platform is just a trampoline to introduce "their" versions. Time will tell if those versions will be better or worse from "originals"
The problem you bring up with "splintered budgets" is Covid. Insurance costs shot up and Actors' schedules had to go around isolations and testing, on top of extras having to be cut for distancing reasons. Falcon & Winter Soldier's dropped story thread WAS a Pandemic. The original plan was the Blipped people had missed out on 5 years of exposure to strains of diseases and would cause chaos with how hard they're hit by it. The Flag Smashers' goal was essentially to eradicate those that returned from the Blip.
My god you completely nailed it!
Everything you said is absolutely true!
Couldn’t have said it better!
Disney was responsible for the Netflix shows. ABC Studios produced them. Netflix just distributed them.
@@tannerp.4996 Don't be obtuse. The feel of those properties are different. Just like Free Form Cloak and Dagger has a different feel to the MCU. The Netflix shows were licensed from Disney.
@@alwaysxnever I know they have a different feel. Disney through ABC Studios still made them. And they are also part of the MCU.
The way they treated Wilson Fisk..in Hawkeye .nd absolute disrespect he received..i can already see what's gonna happen here
Shot by some woman. Yeah that sounds underwhelming
@@JoeChillton Yeah who blinded him just like she did in the comic books not kill him
@JJV1224 he's sense of style was completely destroyed (something important to the character), he's empire was made into some bro idiots and a Chinese restaurant,he got random powers for the sake of it,been humiliated by all the woman's in the show and have a horrible final fight with the "better Hawkeye"
@@UNKNOWN-qr7uo for real? I barely payed attention to Hawkeye. Just heard of the Fisk stuff
I agree almost 100% with Jeremy here. I’d been giving Marvel a pass for this phase because Covid threw a wrench in things & because Endgame was a massive crescendo, so I was expecting this phase to be a come down before the next phase starts to ramp things back up.
Covid is zero excuse for badly written films and TV shows.
@@SumDumGy perfectly said
@@SumDumGy eh that's debatable since Alot of this tv shows and movies were gonna come out in 2020
@@TheFreshSoundsFlorida Thanks!
@@cj3670 When these shows come out is only a factor when you look at something like production quality. Even then that’s not much considering filming was largely shut down. You can’t make something bad in that regard if you aren’t allowed to film.
What we’re talking about here is writing quality. Covid doesn’t impact a writer’s skill to put ink to paper, so to speak. If anything, lockdowns would only allow a “creative” (think G.R.R. Martin) the opportunity to focus on their work and produce something you’d think superior... *if* they wanted to. Clearly, they either lack the skill or the will to do so. Lockdown lifted, production resumed. Where were the great works of writing these clowns should have had the time and opportunity to produce for the camera? Nowhere to be found. That means we got exactly what they wanted us to.
So far I'm loving the MCU shows. I think the characters are good, stories are fun, fights are cool, not 100% of every show is gonna be perfect, but I think, and this goes especially for Hawkeye, people give up too early. People gave up on Wandavision after episode 2 because they didn't get it, they gave up on Loki because they didn't get the character, and they gave up on Hawkeye because the first couple of episodes were kinda weak but it got so much better halfway through. I am biased, but I'm gonna watch whatever shows they put out. I've had a lot of fun so far.
I've seen Hawkeye and Loki, and I thought both were pretty good. With Loki in particular, I respected that it was a bit more of a character study, and didn't feel pressured to rely on a "villain of the week" or constant fight scenes, and he spent the vast majority of the season out of costume. If there's one thing I wished it had done better, it was making Loki's use (or lack of use) of his abilities and powers a little more consistent.
One frequent complaint of Daredevil season 1 (that might be forgotten today) is that we didn't see him in a proper costume until the finale. But I love it when a series can really dive deep into a character outside the scope of their powers. As a TV example, I'm watching Breaking Bad now (again, I've seen it before) and so far the first 4-5 episodes of season 3 have no meth. This is a show people tuned into weekly with the premise of "schoolteacher with cancer becomes a meth cook" and this entire half season is all about the marital issues, Hank's career, and Jesse being clean and buying a house, and it's extremely interesting. Loki is great for being a lot of this TVA stuff, and I thought his relationships with Owen Wilson and Sylvie were the series' highlights. All Daredevil needs to do to be good in my opinion is utilize its TV format to take its time on good character work.
So far the MCU shows have been from okayish to disappointing really, not a single one of them even compares to DD's 2nd Season which is considered not as good as 1st and 3rd, big budgets don't make a good show and after how Fisk turned out in Hawkeye I'm worried DD will also become a watered down disneyfied version of its past glory.
This right here is exactly how I feel and you could not have said it any better
I would say you can count on DD being watered down.
I said the same thing about DD S2.
daredevil was never a violent or graphic comic...the Netflix show was the only r-rated version of the character
I like Loki over DD season 2. I got sick of the Hand every five minutes in DD season 2. seasons 1 and 3 were great in my opinion
yeah. YEP. yeah.
I had the same concern. I think the Disney Plus Series will "tone it down" to that mcu tone. And coincidentally I did start rewatching the films from phase 1 bc after Multiverse of Madness I was like "yea it doesn't feel the same". I am concerned that the Multiverse concept will come to be that excuse for cheap fan service, cameos, and just not have any real stakes or consequences bc it's easy to reverse someone's actions or bring back anyone thought to be dead.
I watched this show back when it first came out, now that I've started dating someone whose not big into the superhero/fantasy/action genre this show came to mind as a possible watch between us, mainly because most of the moments I recall have to do with Matt Murcdock just trying to do right by his city and friends and the drama that comes with it.
P.S. She loved all 3 seasons too.
Daredevil is that one character who tends to be blessed with amazing storylines one after another in the comics. The test now is to see if that carries over to live action.
Disney is 100 percent going to hold it back in terms of rawness.
moon knight was pretty good. hes brutal in the comics maybe more than daredevil but i still liked his adaptation. sucks tho it might be tv-14
@@thelel6591 nah, re-watch the show, just cos it's different than other shows, doesn't make it pretty good.
And the end Godzilla fight was weird asf.
MK had lots of potential, they said it gonna be like Daredevil, and if that's how it is.
They gonna ruin Daredevil 100%, he gonna be making corny jokes like Stark & Dr.strange or be a butt like Thor & Hulk
@@RK-lq2ud the problem with Moon Knight is they absolutely played it way too safe. Every time they got remotely deep they pulled back hard.
@@thelel6591 That's the thing, Moon Knight wasn't brutal in the show. Disney toned him down which is disappointing.
I agree with the whole talk about the MCU not being as grand after Endgame. I think a lot of it stems from the fact that they don't seem to have a real plan in mind. Phase 1 was all to lead up to Avengers, proving it could be done. And even that left us with the tease for Thanos, which the next two phases further built upon. There was nothing nesecerily planned or promised in Endgame's finale. It really just feels like they're introducing characters for the sake of introducing them but not having any real plans outside of "the multiverse".
It would have helped if one of the movies had teased something like Galactus or the Beyonder. Anything to say "here's what's coming".
Kevin Feige has made it clear that Phase 4 is all about experimentation and transitions. It's meant to be a standalone phase while they readjust themselves for the next big event.
Kang and the multiverse war seems to be the next big bad plan,
If you’ve watched Loki & him appearing in Antman 3, they’re just focusing on introducing other characters & individuals stories, phase 2 doesn’t build the larger story much. It featured a few infinity stones and Thanos in a post credit sequence
Umm yes we are? Did you completely forget the multiverse is a thing now? Especially after the events of Multiverse of Madness? You don't know what you're talking about
@@Not-Batman That's because Multiverse of Madness shat on multiverse as a concept with it's dogshit writing
@@abdullahahmad4239 No it didn't. We now know everything is heading towards Secret Wars or at least the incursions which is a massive deal. Calm down yourself.
So the first 25 years or so of Marvel Comics were especially great to me mostly because line-wide continuity was way easier to manage and track then. Same cannot be said of the next 25 years (for obvious reasons) as Marvel expanded and retconned certain characters’ whole backstories in which future scribes either honor or omit. Under this problematic modality, the publishing division eventually began to falter and confound the casual fan-base not unlike the current MCU product. Not that Feige can’t course-correct but as the powerful studio continues to crumble under its own weight and expectations the harder it will be. Other than that I have no thoughts on the matter… haha
When you say "confond the casual fanbase" do you mean the stories got too complicated for people to follow?
@@haitiankid9456 only illiterate ppl(IDK)!
I mean, some of Marvel's best comics came out after those first twenty years, including the very stories that made the Daredevil show so great. Heck, I'd argue Marvel's best ever work mostly came about in the 80s and forward.
Comics aren't movies and movies aren't comics. I just had to say that because I've never seen a movie that said 'see you in 30 days for the conclusion'. I've seen the Disney + shows and have felt some tension between episodes, but realistically it's nothing like waiting 30 days to find out what the next issue is going to do. Movies are 2 hour affairs where the ending is just 120 minutes away and it all better tie up nicely or the team of actors, writers, directors, camera people, editors may not have a job going forward. I have loved comics. Movies are much bigger affairs that deserve more love, but can't risk the same way a monthly comic can. It's a beautiful place we are in because we have seen fulfillment and then we've seen failure (Sony, there is no hope for you creating a Joker). If they (MCU) keep putting out 3 movies a year and 4 streaming shows a year we are getting a missed opportunity every two months if they don't coordinate better. Daredevil under a different team of creators sounds like continued poisoning of what we once saw as greatness on the small screen. The only way you fix a failing format is develop the next format with a whole new set of ideals and goals that aren't the same damn stupid formula. Six weekly shows is not the best way if it all feels like muddy crap halfway through. Do a two episode series twice a month, and alternate months between a second or third show or something, but have the show complete an arc after the fourth episode. Make the budgets more adequate for a 3 hour special and have a few characters that appear in all the shows, but not the titular characters. By the end of six months, with coordinated writing efforts, it will make sense that there have been advancements in all three or four characters stories that intertwine somehow. Or just continue the characters sporadically in new shows as support characters. By two or three years advance those characters into the more grand affair, the movie, and by then your villains of the separate series have a more unique goal and you can feature the heroes in a bigger way with far less explanation. Fiege said at the start of Disney+ the shows they created were going to be structured to have some effect on the movies. Dr Strange MOM did bring this about somewhat, but what's the chance of Thor or Wakanda being tied very closely to anything in Dr Strange, Eternals, Shang Chi, Loki, etc? You're right, sir. The 60s Marvel set such a new expectation for comic publishers going forward. I hope they can make me a movie believer, but it rests in the passion and the talent of those creatives assembling some foundation going forward that rewards us, not betrays us.
You know that feeling when a band or singer you really liked, and suddenly you stop listening to them because they sound stale because they're stuck making the same sounding stuff as always and never seem to grow and change with the times? That's the MCU right now.
And I get it, from Feige's perspective. The MCU is a giant when comes to brands internationally, and so he has the task of carefully shepherding this billion dollar brand and making sure it maintains the absolute widest and broadest appeal possible to ensure the big bucks keep coming in. So Marvel becomes incredibly risk averse. Only allowing the smallest stretches of artistic creativity before snapping back to The Formula. But ironically in being risk averse, they risk something else, an increasingly staling brand. They're numbers won't crash over night, but they will start shedding fans at a steady rate, until eventually these $200 million dollar tentpoles aren't viable anymore. They need to shake things up. One of the implicit promises of the MCU Disney+ shows was that they'd be providing variety, and exploring stories in ways that they couldn't on screen. Unfortunately it just hasn't lived up to that, and that's why Daredevil's revival on Disney makes me nervous.
Yeah, their treatment of Moonknight has me worried. Kevin Feige considered that to be "brutal". I would preferr Matt just be a side character that occasionally shows up than he be PG-13. 🤷♂️
Edit: Same goes for Jessica Jones and Deadpool. PG-13 with crossovers outside the R-Rated group and R everywhere else.
To be fair, a lot of what happened in Moon Knight was brutal, Disney just didnt allow the impact to be shown. In the first episode we snap to a guy shot in the head then falls to the road from a moving truck and then like three guys get mowed down by falling lumber. There was just no impact for anything so it feels soft. Huge disappointment. I dont blame Feige though
@@PastelWraith Moonknight TV show was tame compared to what he did in the comics.
Imagine a Disney plus Jessica Jones show it would completely Suck
@@PastelWraith Moonknight was very tame compared to the Netflix shows. It's definitely not Feige, it's Disney. Wanting everything to be family friendly, even the characters aimed at adults. Can't wait to see Punisher go ham with a Nerf gun.
But if this what Feige defines as "brutal" what does he think Daredevil was?
@@kingslayer2999 She's addicted to drinking apple juice and calls people a meanie-poophead.
Kevin Feige: Jessica Jones is raw and provocative!
Right there with you. I hope that they will keep the tone and style of the Netflix run, but I'm doubtful. I think they'll get the cast back, but the writers, producers and showrunners are more important to the style and they already seem to have new ones. They might get Drew Goddard back, he's with 20th Century Fox TV, so basically in-house. But Erik Oleson and Steven S. DeKnight (showrunners from Season 3 & 1) can't come back because of their overall deals with Amazon and Netflix.
This definitely was a concern I had once I heard they were bringing it back. Apparently the writers for the new show also wrote Deck the Halls, the Matthew Broderick and Danny Devito Christmas movie. So who knows what new highs they’ll take the series
That was literally the only movie I ever walked out of because my mom doesn’t know how to judge a trailer and tortured us with that crappy creation.
The quality of Marvel has dipped since Infinity War, especially with the Disney Plus series. I’m not entirely optimistic that this series will be good. Marvel keeps following this action comedy formula and it gets old quick.
Do you believe that the MCU is slowly turning into a TV-Sitcom?
I feel the same concerns but really that's been how I've felt about the majority of the post end game Marvel productions. I won't repeat what other CZcamsrs who are sad to see the downward trend of quality in all facets of what Disney is doing but I've voted with my time and wallet and checked out
It's funny how I'm now more excited to see what DC does over Marvel..stuff like Peacemaker is giving me what I want from Comic book series/films.
I'm excited, as I love the show, it's in my top 3 of all time. For that reason, and all you pointed out, I'm terribly worried too. My inner dialogue goes "Feige knows that ppl love it and knows why, surely he wouldn't want to go down in Marvel history as the one who ruined Daredevl. Also, Disney needs stuff that targets adult audience and they know it, they won't thrive with only pg13 stuff, and they wouldn't have put the old Daredevil in their main platform, at a click distance from the new Daredevil, if they were planning to infuriate a large fanbase toning down and ruining the character"
But then, I remember Moonknight, which was supposed to push the limits, of which Feige said "we're not holding back", but had the same typical mcu humorous tone, the same typical mcu bloodless violence, and also see that instead of bringing back the creative team of the old Daredevil, they hired two new unknown people, The only shed of hope is that this two apparently know how to write tv shows, a thing that Marvel Studios has yet to learn. But I am not very hopeful, unfortunately.
It's simple, if they knew how make a show as good as Daredevil, they would have done it already. They just don't know.
Man, under the She Hulk comments I read some stuff that was like essentially "Does Jeremy even notice any of this stuff happening to this media?"
I like that you're mostly optimistic. I'm a bit more of a downer nowadays myself. I got very little faith in this one. Raimi's Strange was the CLOSEST we've gotten to anything out the box and it felt restrained.
I think your concerns are valid. I’ve had the same since he appeared in No Way Home. I don’t believe they will be able to do this justice.
Let's hope Disney+ doesn't Nerf Daredevil, and give the original creators complete control with no pg-13 obligations.
With Moonknight being the first ever 18/R rated MCU addition, there's a precedent that PG13 is no longer a requirement for MCU.
The sadness I'm feeling is real...I loved the Netflix Daredevil...Disney told me their products are not for me, so I'm not watching, not buying, not giving Disney my money, or time.
I want to be entertained, by people who love story, and love the verse's they get to play in.
Take care
So am I the only one who’s noticed the huge drop off in quality and interest in the MCU over time, especially post Endgame?
Uhh. No?
That was a whole thing and still a thing.
Nope we all noticed except I guess some biased die hard mcu fans who refuse to admit quality went down
No offense but the quality of storytelling started declining in Infinity War .
@@mijanhoque1740 Nope the quality is still good but the problem is edgelords like u, who always hate mcu movies. Get a life dude.
As much as Kingpin in Hawkeye doesn't have the same feel as in Daredevil, the line that was going something like: "Because of Christmas time I give you a minute to rethink what you just said" was pretty good, kinda felt like something that Daredevil Kingpin would say I think so there's hope that season 4 will be good!
I LOVE THE MCU but for the first time I believe Disney has crossed the line of Quanity > Quality . It isn’t crazy bad because the catalog will be so big . It also has crossed the lines of telling more stories with less connections to the wider universe . This could also just be them throw shit at wall and seeing what sticks ,
For the first time? Brother try every single thing after infinity war
@@olivercrespo2329 nah Wandavision, Loki and NWH slapped. MoonKnight was good but needed more. Eternals tried new things but was not good imo, doctor Strange 2 while messy was definitely a breath of fresh air when it comes to letting it's director do His thing.
Yea I am kinda annoyed that Marvel is making way too many series. Like who tf wants an Aghata series? Maybe use that money to make more episodes of Moon Knight cuz it had a great concept but it was poorly executed due to less episodes.
“First time” 😂😂😂😂😂😂
One thing is for sure: The old and the new Daredevil series will be interesting to compare since the main difference will be the writing.
I completely agree. Moon Knight was a huge missed opportunity. It’s likely they’ll do the same to Daredevil.
Ikr but such an letdown.
Moon knight was ok was rather disappointing in my opinion.
After all this time I should be way more excited than I am. But I simply don't like the general sensibilities of the MCU right now.
Everything has to be overly comedic and that's not what I want for Daredevil. This show NEEDS to be a worthy successor to the previous version. Otherwise it's disrespectful to Charlie Cox and the fans.
Did you not watch Moon Knight?
It’s actually the same amount of comedy since it started
@@SaiyanShoto Moon knight was mediocre as hell and they played it safe with that
@@luistorres8005 And it wasn’t that much, compared to usual MCU comedy
@@mijanhoque1740 If you think it was mediocre then I don’t what to tell you. You’re not a Moon Knight fan I can tell you that much because as a Moon Knight fan I fucking loved it. It was a great adaptation of the character
As much as I would love to see more daredevil. I feel like they should leave it where it is. The series was perfection, and based on how Fisk was shown in Hawkeye I don’t feel like the marvel gloss works for it.
Marvel has the same pattern for everything, nothing wrong with it it’s made millions. Just daredevil was different. It doesn’t feel or fit that style.
If a season 4 was made it would need all the same ingredients that made the other ones. Most of all not rated pg 13
Love that you brought back the punch to the camera. I’ve been missing that
for a person like me who loves the show i know its not gonna be like those first 3 seasons i just want the writers and directors of season 3 to be back with the cast but idk man