DECLUTTERING my YouTube Subscriptions...they just want to make money off of me?
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- The "Favorite" CZcamsrs I mentioned:
Leena Norms, Hannah Louise Poston, Shawna Ripari, Social Symone, Karolina Żebrowska, How to Cook That (Ann Reardon), Shelbizleee, forgot to say Justine Leconte as well!
Music Channels: Twoset Violin, Rick Beato, RoomieOfficial
0:00 Wednesday! my least favorite day
0:09 Still 1812, still Tchaikovsky
0:14 Disclaimer, not trying to insult anybody!
0:46 I'm a BIG consumer of CZcams
2:44 when the student is ready...
2:51 I pulled the wool OFF of my eyes
3:21 I see people recommending things others don't really need
3:31 like quitting the kool-aid, or alcohol
4:21 my first "last-straw" moment with a creator
6:26 I was BOTHERED
6:54 it felt like they were selling me non-minimal products
7:40 and yes, they were selling!
8:13 are these real needs, or needs only because we focus on our "stuff"
8:40 it smelled of hypocrisy
8:57 my goals involving minimalism don't involve buying stuff
9:47 my second last-straw moment and creator
10:09 they started out very relatable to me
10:24 haha don't cancel me
10:54 there's no content that's not paid anymore
11:02 I could just feel the sponsorship coming...
11:37 I think people should know it's paid content before they click
12:46 they complained about a problem THEY CREATED
13:39 "now I have to declutter the free stuff that made me money"
14:18 this person maybe avoids judgement because they claim to be "conscious"
14:45 just a drop in the bucket of online influencing
15:10 even high income earners in "regular jobs" would rather "influence"
15:31 instead of jobs with direct value to people's lives
16:15 no hate to influencers
16:23 in fact I'm arguably stepping into that too
16:53 MY BOTTOM LINE HERE
17:34 I know also nobody is making me watch or follow
17:52 those are just recent, lots of previous examples exist
18:50 years ago I even watched "shopping" channels
19:26 I choose what I watch more carefully now
19:54 my input exceeded my output
20:28 you are the product of those who influence you
20:48 youtubers that I still watch - my current favorites!
#youtuber #influencer #unsubscribe #unfollow #declutter #consciousconsumption #consciousconsumerism #advertising #sellout #notworthit
I'll throw shade for you. If the video has, "paid promotion" at the top left, in my feed: or if there is any kind of sponsorship or advertising within the content...it gets an immediate click off, and I'll unsubscribe (if I'm subscribed), or click "don't recommend channel" without any hesitation. I pay CZcams Premium to avoid ads. I won't waste time watching content of someone choosing to sell out by trying to sell to me. The irony of a Minimalist themed channel with sponsorships trying to sell me useless crap is the very definition of disingenuous. I don't watch the content of disingenuous, money-hungry people, no matter how good the content is...
You're 100% right that the sneaky ads are starting to increase and take over. It should 100% be transparent and forthcoming, if there's going to be any kind of promoted or sponsored content, before we click the video. I'll just continue filtering my feed and clicking "don't recommend channel" immediately upon seeing these tactics...and sending the feedback to CZcams every time. Maybe eventually they'll get the hint...
I don't watch Hannah (too wishy washy on no-buy versus overly buying and telling us allllllll about the products she's buying), and Justine (funny how everyyyyy video she makes now segways to her personal jewelry or handbag line), anymore.
Haha thanks for doing the shade-throwing!
And more and more I too am becoming very selective with which Hannah and Justine videos (and all of the creators I still follow, actually) that I will actually click on, because nowadays I am a lot more intentional and want to know that I will get some value (preferably in the form of new, mind-opening or challenging ideas, or possibly, musical entertainment) when I watch a video online.
I don't need to watch someone pack a suitcase or try on clothes/makeup anymore, I've finally moved on - thank goodness.
I have been subscribed to a lot of the same people you mentioned and also decluttered them from my subscriptions for similar reasons. I am not doing a no buy year, but want to be conscious about what I bring into my life. Just wanted to say that you aren't the only one who is frustrated by the constant selling
Yessss hooray for not being alone in this
I'm in the process of cleaning my subscription feed because as much as I like watching certain creators, I have to distance myself from anyone who might incite me to buy things I might want. I'm not in a no-buy year yet but I'm trying to take a step back before committing to the experience. And yes, I'm listening to this while folding the laundry 😅
Yessss I hope you got that laundry done
Thank you for your content. I am a licensed therapist and I am focusing on women and their relationship with shopping and with possessions. To make my very niche work more widely available I've decided to start creating CZcams content. You are really highlighting the importance of being part of the solution and not part of the problem!
Please never be nervous you make so much sense to me and I started 2024 as a no buy year but boy am I struggling and falling but you have helped me out so much…. Thank you ❤
This sounds amazing - I urge you to keep up with the content creation because even if it takes awhile for you to reach a big audience, I've found it really helps me become more articulate in what I truly value and think are important messages to spread! And even realize the potential moments of hypocrisy in my own approach, which I think is somewhat inevitable part of the human experience, but with awareness we can move forward. Thank you for sharing!
Just went to subscribe to your channel! I am excited to see the knowledge you have to share
@@AJ-rr1js thank you so much! You motivate me!
This was such an interesting and relatable video to watch! I unsubscribed from so many of my favorite creators last fall. I find it MUCH harder to resist recommendations from creators like HLP who brand themselves as “conscious consumers” because they really romanticize the way they speak about the stuff they want/have and because they already earned my trust.
Plus, because they often buy less or recommend fewer things overall, I have this perception that the recommendations they do make are somehow better. So once creators transition away from no buy content or start accepting sponsorships it’s easier and I’m happier with what I have if I just don’t watch at all 🤷🏻♀️
100% you nailed it. I feel the same way.
100% this. I think also in the case of HLP she really doesn't often do outright sponsorships, compared to other channels, and in fact the more romantic way she speaks in general would make most "scripted" sponsored content feel really out of place in my opinion - perhaps she even realizes that her best way to earn through products is through discount codes and affiliate links rather than "sponsored segments" because of this. But it's still putting products up for consideration to the viewers regardless.
I think these are really interesting ideas, advertising has become so "integrated" it's hard to determine where the selling ends and the content starts. It helps me to identify that the person is trying to sell me something.
Just saying out loud something like, "This creator is trying to sell me Athletic Greens or a Helix mattress". It helps me to break out of the fog.
Anyway - good luck on your journey.
Indeed! "This person is trying to sell me ___", and "I am NOT going to buy it!"
Thank you!
I had a similar "last straw" experience with the first creator you mentioned, but it was for a video on how to stop buying and then towards the end it was like 20 minutes of shilling products. It definitely left a sour taste in my mouth. I was pleasantly surprised though when I went to the comment section and saw several people calling them out on this. I think some creators have "lost the plot" and have been blinded by the sponsorship/affiliate $$.
I also officially started my half year no buy/low buy! I'm really hoping this is the reset I need to get my personal values back on track.
Actually she has some degree in marketing, she talked about it in some of her early content. So she KNOWS. That’s the sad thing. I was one of the critical comments… I think I will rewatch some old content but I have unsubscribed after watching only irregularly for over a year.
Yes I saw that one too! By the time I got around to watching there were several critical comments up already so luckily I knew what was coming and could leave at that point (or was otherwise prepared even if I did let the video run, as like I've said I'm often doing housework or something and stuff like that comes up I only half pay attention) but my attitude towards putting a video on in general is changing too, where I don't want to even receive subliminal messages that increased consuming is okay in the background!
Welcome to the journey of no buy/low buy! I would love to hear your updates whenever you may care to share in the comments!
I pay CZcams Premium to see videos without ads. For classical music alone it's worth it. I absolutely don't engage anymore with content creators... minimalists included...who constant shill junk from Amazon or beds, or skincare or whatever else. I unsubscribe straightaway no exceptions. You're doing the Lord's work here.
Thank you! I can see how it's certainly worth it to listen to/watch music on here without ads.
That Amazon junk from China is a special pet peeve of mine and I’ve seen it shamelessly promoted on repeat by so-called influencers. It’s hysterical they have My Favorites Amazon pages so they can accrue every dime they can.
How about the linen sheets 🤣
I unfollowed the same two youtubers you are referring to amongst others - and the fact that I know which ones you meant tells me I watch too much CZcams haha. The other thing that is annoying me lately with some fashion youtubers are that they don't even wear what they demonstrate, they wear them for the videos of course but a few have admitted or let it slip that they don't wear them in 'real life'. How pointless is that, they keep a separate wardrobe just for filming on youtube. It's so fake, they really wear leggings most days yet present themselves as an expert in what we should wear - I'm so over it.
Yes! I think part of the issue is no one can wear as many clothes as influencers get sent for PR or sponsored content - so sometimes it really is "just for show". Do we even really KNOW what that person's style is, and actually, do THEY even know? Again not saying to judge, but just observing possible issues or contradictions.
I'm having a lot of thoughts about the concept of personal style in this "age of influence" and will probably share a bit more about that when I've managed to gather my ideas 😅
@@Alexas.nobuyyear I'd love to hear your POV about it! yes please, I need that video
I love Dawn, but I had the same thought after her organization video. The under sink organizing seemed so unnecessary. I will keep watching her bc on balance she’s brought me more positive declutterring motivation than anyone else.
I am also a fan on the first creator you described. I appreciate your take on the creator’s latest video. Thank you for all your content, it is very thought provoking!
Thank you! I also hope it was clear that I mean no personal offense to that or any other of the creators I mentioned!
Saaaaaaame that video was very off. It's almost like she was influenced by another minimalist family creator known for her Amazon organizer hauls. At least you know what you're signing up for with the latter.
I find that many influencers operating like they did before the pandemic. Life was so different then. In today’s economy priorities changed and watching someone “struggling “ to decide which one of 10 bronzers to keep is making me physically ill. Endless decluttering and repurchasing🤦♀️, “ hurry and get it if you don’t have it in your collection”, talk about lack of awareness. Wishing them well, they may live and prosper for all I care, but they won’t be allowed into my home just because we both have an access to the internet.
Right, when the salesperson comes knocking I'm not letting them in to chat anymore 🫠
i hate the ads and sponsorships! it's like watching a new generation of QVC. i don't like the pharmacist and now by proxy i no longer like her friend alyssa who does fashion videos. i tried watching the group podcast they have with another friend and it was just cringey. i'm really falling out of love with yt for many of the reasons you mentioned so thank you for making this video. they all should be putting AD right there in the title. it's disingenuous
I also tried listening to the podcast and found it wasn't really for me either.
I think what makes it annoying to me is that it feels like it's happening more and more - and I do realize it's my choices in what to watch etc. or if I am even watching at all so like I said I don't blame them, but yeah "falling out of love with CZcams" sounds exactly right!
I do like the pharmacist but I skip the adds even if they are actually IN the video. I also tried to listen the podcast, cause I also like the other friend, but It was not for me also, I felt so superficial as well as the podcast from the ones I started with (TMs), but somehow is like they have been left with no valuable content.
I really hope your channel blows up because I am loving your content so much!
Aw thank you!
As a person who just bought a magnetized lint bin this past week, uninfluenced -all on my own because it solved a problem for me, I can say I had no idea I was trendy! 😆😆
Great video!
This is the way things should be bought! Organic needs prompting the search and comparison, instead of thinking we have a need when we don't because someone might have suggested it!
I am always slightly off topic since I am not a shopper. But I gain great worth from this intricate and so timely channel. Capitalism - the worship of money and consuming - is toxic and we have built our culture and lives around it. We work too hard for stuff we don't need and shouldn't ( much of the time) want! We waste time and important other concerns including our families and friends. Your channel IS a remedy!
But atbs I still need a new pocket book!😎👜
Thank you!
At least two of those Kotn outfits will be decluttered within the year. My a-ha moments were (a) that she talked up horrid person Dave Ramsey who does stuff like interview prospective hires’ spouses and support extreme rightwing politicians, and (b) that she disgustedly decluttered dozens of Aritzia pieces then replaced them with Agolde and Anine Bing, then she disgustedly decluttered those and replaced them with Tibi, etc. Ah well, maybe the next more expensive brand will fix you and give you confidence and a sense of self. On the podcast, she became viscerally upset about the thought of buying a non-designer version of something, because how will you know it’s good without that? How will you get the special Dumbo power of the 5-cent tag sewn into the garment by a worker making a few dollars a day?
It’s also just shopping binging and purging, only with ever more expensive items - so clearly an endless hedonic treadmill, perpetuated despite awareness of it. Useful as an example of what not to do.
CZcams style content replaced magazines for me after those fell off (RIP Mademoiselle, Glamour and Lucky), but now it’s getting drowned by advertising, too. I never liked Vogue’s fantasy editorials and then I found out that designers could demand not to be featured with any other brands and that your brand would get editorial space if you bought ad pages in the magazine. Ads eventually parasitically poison everything they latch on to. It’s not just that sponcon is selling you something, it’s that it’s inauthentic, like those articles that get churned out based on daily trending topics to make a web page to sell ad space on. Humans look to acquire useful information and knowledge from other humans, not content (dismal, accurate word) generated for ad space.
As always I love to read your comments. I also have mixed feelings about Dave Ramsey because it feels a bit like one of those conundrums where some of his advice and intentions might be good but he himself is a problematic person - do we separate the "artist from the art"? But I'm pretty sure that the one time I mentioned him on my channel here (in relation to debt payoff) I also mentioned that he's a problematic person. So I don't know, I guess my personal answer has been to acknowledge both sides of it. I don't listen to the podcast after finding the first few episodes a little dull (not entertaining and not giving me new ideas) but that sounds kind of elitist. I guess when I think about it all of her "thrifting" for clothes has been consignment stores and not at the local goodwill, so there's that too.
But yes her constant declutters are a huge red flag, my other point of contention is that she's repeatedly said she's "not into dresses and skirts" but the proceeds to show tons of sponsored or gifted dresses and skirts saying she really wants to try it and get more into that. I just have to question whether one "should" try to go against our style instincts or even feel like we "should"...and also whether she would be "trying it" if it wasn't free or for paid content.
I'm having even more thoughts about style in general and will eventually talk about it on here, but to give you a preview, I had a moment of realization watching music videos at a bowling alley - the protagonists of such "produced" content, movies, TV (the other "videos" we see) tend to ACTUALLY have a personal style that is super defined whereas many of the "style" creators I've seen on here do not, and instead cater towards adding trendy pieces (in one way or another) or sharing brands that just do more of the same kinds of basic items...presumably, a more general approach in order to be able to sell.
Finally someone who thinks the same about giving up a meaningful career for becoming an influencer (of course, their content is also valuable, but still).
The way I go about the ads is that I just don't watch them. I skip them when they're in the middle of a video and ignore the CZcams ads. So, I don't mind someone being monetized. It helps the creators but the ads don't interest me, so no damage done. Maybe I'm not susceptible for ads in general. I have never purchased a product advertised by influencers. Mostly, because I just don't need it. For example, if AG1 is shown to me, I don't even consider buying it because I have not used supplements like this before OR I would buy them in my local pharmacy. This goes for many items. I often like stuff from popular brands like Vivaia - but shipping and returns keep me from doing so (I live in Europe). So, I stick to local shops or brands that easily and more cheaply ship to me. Even if I technically want a thing I just (I know, easier said than done!) don't buy it. Because it's a general rule for me so to say.
Right, I have pretty mixed feelings because I don't think it's entirely wrong to get support from other companies in order to create something valuable to people. But maybe what I'm seeing is that a lot of people value "stuff" and people who constantly show "stuff", and I'm just not sure that this is the way for us to be happy and fulfilled.
I also skip ads (unless I'm listening in the car and can't) and I don't usually get caught with the first exposure - but, sometimes I notice after seeing things several times I start thinking I want to "try" them - again like the greens powder: I didn't try AG1, but I did get a different (cheaper) brand to try out.
Luckily "not buying" is also becoming a general rule for me this year too, FINALLY 😁
You are so right. At this point, I am only subscribed to 10 "influencers" who dont influence me to buy hahaha❤❤❤ I love it. I am a shopaholic, and I don't need the constant temptation to buy more stuff.
Hi, just found your channel and I love it! I’m a ex shopaholic. It’s been more than 5 years. Yes, I still shop, but I have lots of rules that I follow in order to allow my self to buy. Resently I have seen so many people getting tired of it and are trying to find ways to get help and I think your channel is very helpful.
So I think Christina did something very admirable by paying off her debt. That is just incredible to have done in her 20s. However with the colour analysis, the Allison Bornstein 3 word thing, and the wrong shoe trend, her style has gotten worse. Like every outfit she puts together now I think is awful.
I think it gets into not having a strong sense of self, and trying to project a certain idea or feel. They say it's an evolution of style, but I think that's an excuse because it matches so consistently the aesthetic and trends in their social media space. The lack of strong sense of self is indicated by being heavily influenced. So you see these people going through a "minimalist" era, where they particularly get into a quasi spiritual belief system, and then drop it. That pattern to me indicates one is bereft of spiritual contentment.
Edit: i think being mindful of lusting after products too much, or mindful of being driven by materialism is good. I think making minimalism your temporary religion is not good.
Spot on! Also, almost every influencer I’ve seen follow the 3 words method ends up looking worse.
Ouch 😂 . But ya, the blazer and track pants need to go. She’s cute though! Almost pulls it off I guess?
Oh man this is bringing up a lot of thoughts about the concept of style and whether or not "style evolution" is in fact what having a personal style entails...I can also see how the 3-word thing can also be used to "justify" adding pieces or wearing things you may not normally, just to serve the idea of the 3 words, and, is that actually your style then or are you actually NOT being true to what you actually gravitate towards?
I just started reading the book and I think one of the 3 words IS a "fantasy self" word, which kind of strikes me as possibly unhelpful when confronted with the practicalities of getting dressed. (I haven't finished the book, mind you, so my opinions are underdeveloped here).
I guess the other thing this is helping me to fully realize is that in Christina's case I was kind of kidding MYSELF into thinking she had "minimal, sustainable" ideals where the content she puts out actually kind of is more "general style content" of someone who can afford to buy "elevated", non-fast-fashion pieces on a regular basis (dare I say, often). Or at the very least her concept of "minimal and sustainable" does not align with mine, I believe "sustainable style" means NOT bringing in new pieces very often because you already have found your signature clothes and "look" and are genuinely happy to just wear what you have.
Sorry for the rambling but thank you for provoking further thinking!
I’ve unsubscribed from Christina Mychas’ channel a few months ago. I found her channel start to get to un relatable for me about a year ago. When you show that your work from home pants are $350 pair of sweats from Tibi…that was it for me personally. I do still watch her on the Sustain This Podcast which she does with Alyssa Beltempo and Signe from Use Less. Of the three, I find that Signe is the most relatable, who wears normal and not fashiony clothes and has minimal sponsorships and ads on her videos. Mostly she promotes her color analysis services. I’m almost ready to pull the plug on that too because, though they have good topics, they just seem to scratch the surface of each topic. I’ve been waiting for them to be brave and to go deeper, but it hasn’t happened yet IMHO. I’ve unsubscribed from many larger channels and have started seeking small channels that don’t have the paid sponsorships and are more relatable for me. I’ve been sewing for the past few years, so most of the CZcams content I look for are “how-to” sewing skill videos…and documentaries! I love documentaries.
@clairewillow6475 Haha I too have been known to do sweatpants and a blazer (going for kind of "funky streetstyle" vibe, decidedly not "cool", if that makes it any better 😅) but, I will not be making public style recommendations to anyone else! Each to their own, which, my goal is for my "style" is to increasingly BE my own and less influenced by any external sources, I'm actually starting to believe style and influence aren't super compatible in general 😮
Hi Alexa, thank you for sharing your authentic and honest thoughts.
For a brief period, I regularly watched one of the creators you mentioned (the pharmacist) to get some ideas about minimal/capsule wardrobe. However, as you mentioned, I also came to notice the overwhelming amount of PR, advertisement, and collabs with brands that could be at odds with their profession in the medical field. So, I unsubscribed from the channel long ago.
Then, I decided that I can take advices when I want to from various media platforms without having to subscribe and making myself vulnerable to advertisement (and enticement). Nowadays, I enjoy reading books from the library about capsule / timeless wardrobe, and if I want advice on how to style a particular piece of clothing, I can search the web and find pictures. I also get inspiration from watching people and their personal style while I'm out and about, going to museums, and the wonderful variety of colour coordination used in the traditional clothing, textiles, and even confectionery in my country.
So, I no longer subscribe to any styling or beauty youtube channel; instead, I enjoy cultivating my thoughts and ideas from watching channels about conscious consumerism and sustainability channels, just like yours and Shawna. So, I'm very happy to have found your channel. Your honesty, openness and love of music (I play the piano and all sort of music especially classical music) really connect with me. Sorry for the long comment! ❤
I'm kind of lucky when it comes to influencers since most of the stuff are not even available in my country or cost a ridiculous amount to ship to me (except amazon stuff, those are still obtainable so I'm trying to be careful).
for example, if was watching a video from a chanel I used to be subscribed to but now just occasionally click on. she was talking about a specific fragrance brands and the testing kit she got (nothing sponsored, it was actually a good review for those who need it). one of the scents sounded exactly what I like and I went to their website to check the price out of curiosity. there was an option for 3x10ml set, but even that one was like 140$ in shipping alone (plus 80$ for the product). I clicked off the website in the second I saw it.
so expensive shipping basically saved me a LOT of money over the years.
Yes when I used to live in New Zealand shipping was super expensive a lot of the time too, so I definitely bought less, or much more carefully!
☺️ love you so much, thank you for being so transparent with us.
I appreciate you.
Appreciate you too!
Lol! My fiance was so sick of me buying so many spices he bought tiny shelves for my spice cupboard. He organized everything neatly and was like "WHY do we have FIVE Oreganos? FIVE paprikas?"
Joke was on him, I go through 4ish containers of paprika and oregano each per month. And now there's no room in the spice cupboard for me to buy the big bulk containers of spices 😂
We want to be invited to dinner! 🍲
Wow! Sounds like you might be a great cook, I want to know what dishes you make to go through that many spices/herbs 😄
He should be glad it’s spices that are your obsession. 🙂
Those linen sheets. 😜 sick of those ads.
All of a sudden all other sheets are less than.
I hate it.
After being in the army, in the field…I will take good old cotton sheets that smell a touch of bleach. I love the feel and clean smell.
Hahaha probably after being in the army, the luxury of not having to make your bed with crisp corners everyday after being woken up early is enough, who cares about the sheets?? 😆
Love that you mention Leena Norms - I’m also a long time fan of hers!
I unfollowed several creators as well (one you also mentioned). As you have said, it's not because they have done anything unethical, it's because my values and priorities have changed. Taking care of yourself and your family is more important than supporting an online creator.
Ive been thinking about cutting back on my favourite content for a while now. I think CZcams is a bigger problem for me than I have been willing to admit. If I didn't watch CZcams I would hardly shop. The reason I don't is because I love watching my favourite creators style clothes. They are SO good at what they do and I get so much inspiration from it; but inevitably a piece of clothing makes an entrance that I just find too irresistible. I also have a feeling that if I did a CZcams fast for a month my productivity would be off the charts!
Yes! I have found the same where if I cut the source of exposure (seeing things to "want") then "not buying" and not shopping becomes so much easier.
Take this very channel as evidence that cutting back on shopping DOES increase productivity - I started with one video a week in January, and just managed a week with seven videos! Ok it's summer (my regular work is on pause), and I won't always do daily videos. But in previous years I wasn't even making videos at all, which is a form of productivity... and I do plan to refocus on my "main goals" (music-related) as soon as I can bring myself to jump back in. (Been putting some off for literal years.)
I agree with you and follow the same person you mentioned who started their channel about buying less and getting out of debt, and is now promoting buying stuff. No matter what it is, it goes against the grain for me. I hadn’t really thought about it as I move past the sponsor part of their video but if their remit was spending less and promoting spending less, they should choose their sponsorship wisely and not to get free things if they would normally buy it, and money for promoting someone else to buy it when they may not need it. Thank you for opening my eyes. 😊
I love your content; very refreshing :) & very relatable too. Greetings from the Netherlands ( New subscriber)
Thank you and welcome!
We are beginning to feel a bit liberated from wanting stuff! The rationale is becoming clearer! Your considered talking points are growing into a convincing argument! We have better things to do! But speaking for myself I still need more! It has become a total pleasure to listen to well reasoned thought processes.
So I watched most of your short videos! Best of both worlds! Nice short cute wardrobe styling vs. In depth thoughtful expose' on important questions! An interesting mixture!
Aw thanks - I definitely prefer content with more context so I haven't done any shorts in awhile, but perhaps I'll dip my feet back in when I have a concise way to share some of the ideas I feel are important 😅
Thank you to talk openly about it. I had two CZcamsr I followed making temu sponsorships - these were last straw moments for me. I think it’s important to openly talk about these problems and also about the creators because it displays the system. Even minimalists depend on sponsorships. That’s the reason I mostly switched to smaller channels or channels that make clear - it’s a side hustle or just a hobby. They mark the few sponsorships and that’s it. But in the comments under the „last straw“ video you see that a lot of consumers on this kind of content are not aware of the system - or have the delusion that the creator is not part of it.
I completely understand how you get into the spiral of sponsorships and affiliate links if you support your life or even your whole family with CZcams or Social Media in general. It a big pressure. And if a project (like online decluttering lessons) doesn’t work out that well you need to find ways to secure your income. Of course, there are influencers who start with consumerism and want to be a influencer from the start. That’s not who I talk about. But I think maybe for others quitting their day job is a step in the wrong direction in the long term - for their security and their content. I still follow one who tried and went back to be creator as a hobby. Good decision.
I actually have a nebula subscription because I wanted to support some creators who don’t want sponsorships and want to stay independent with their content. I was very much into minimalism videos but after all - it’s still, mostly, about stuff. After a lot of these creators didn’t appeal to me anymore because of to many sponsors or affiliates or recommendations I try to shift to more meaningful content. Not just bikes, climate town. I try to find a channel sharing thinks about mending and repurposing that I like. CZcams still can be a inspiration- as your thoughtful content shows ❤
Oh my, I have not seen the Temu sponsorships, that would be an immediate NO. I had a friend in real life say she got something off Temu and my immediate response was OH NOOOO even though she wasn't trying to sell me and I really wasn't trying to give her a lecture, or make her feel bad... I just couldn't help it 😅
I guess the other thing for me about social media is that a lot of times people who are making it their full time job are making a LOT of money on it. I saw Shawna Ripari do a breakdown where if a creator has certain amounts of videos on CZcams that get 100,000 views per month, the income is already several thousand dollars just from ad revenue - or, enough to compare to a "regular salary". I'm not as experienced to run similar calculations and also don't really know what people charge for sponsors but I've heard that people can make thousands for just one sponsored video. So yes, it's pressure and security and etc. but at the same time it's also possibly HUGE income for people with large followings...to the point that some people probably would be ok if they stopped working altogether.
@@Alexas.nobuyyear the problem is you have no security net as an influencer. If you get ill, for retirement, if there is a problem with CZcams not uploading a video for several reasons. It’s also psychological. If a video doesn’t work as the videos before I would get anxious about it - no matter how much I actually got from it. And I would try to make it more secure somehow- with a sponsorship. It’s a lot of pressure - probably the same as for a freelance musician. A sponsorship is something like an employment in a orchestra or a music school - a bit of security.
@@SiuresI do understand how other avenues of pay provide security and I can really empathize with the idea that yes, I have in fact done freelance music gigs that I wouldn't have done if I hadn't needed the money because the gig otherwise did not really line up with my values. So that IS very helpful perspective! There is more to think about there, thank you!
I love CZcams and TikTok but funnily enough CZcams is the main root of my shopping problem and not TikTok. I can resist the TikTok shop very well but as for CZcams…it’s to the point where I can’t really watch my favorite creators because I will get triggered to buy every time. I know it’s my problem and not the creators fault but also seeing CZcams morph into this online home shopping network is sad. It used to be a fun space where people could just review things honestly. But now the overconsumption is out of control and I’m doing my best not to participate in that. One of my favorite movies is Brooklyn, it’s a coming of age story about a woman who leaves her home in Ireland for a better life in America (Brooklyn, New York) and I think it’s set in the 1940s or something but the fact that the main character rewears her outfits in several scenes is so realistic to how people used to have a small wardrobe. There are even two beach scenes and shocker she wears the same bathing suit and sunglasses! It’s a beautiful film and it reminds me of how simple consumption used to be before marketing went overboard. Mad Men is also a great show about advertising! Sadly, you have to buy an AMC subscription to watch 😑
I think I'm mostly the same, I've never purchased from TikTok shop but sometimes seeing the same stuff so often in the short videos on there can make me wanna try new stuff. I haven't been on in quite awhile so I'm sure I'll notice all kinds of stuff next time I open the app 😅
I'm intrigued by that movie and will look it up! Sounds good, and love to see outfit repeating!
Edit: just googled the movie - I love that actress in everything else I've seen of hers, thanks for the recommendation!
Yes, had to stop watching because they changed, and I changed, and our values are no longer aligned. And that’s ok! Appreciate your content. Since you don’t sell things (thank goodness!) I comment because I want to support your channel. Hope comments give you a boost. I really appreciate the shout out to some of your favorite creators. I subscribe to about half and will check them out because I am finding it difficulty to find content creators that align with my values. I think you are thoughtful and respectful in your presentation. I made dinner during your video 😂
Aw thank you! I do hear other creators talk about how engagement, likes comments etc. do help - and while I don't really care about the "size" of the channel (in fact sometimes I feel a little embarrassed at the thought!) I guess I DO care about spreading ideas that go against the message of over-consumerism. So - thank you! Happy to be your dinner-prep companion! 😁
Nice video. I was suprised with some of the latter ones. Like won't you one day like to take sponsorships? Would be interesting to hear out your thought process on what sponsorships you would take and how you would think about it. Leena takes occasional ones and has done some videos on her thought process I think
@mmmmmm...k5287 I honestly don't know if I would like to take sponsorships or not in the future EVER, but at least for now on this channel my mission is to comment on my experience with NOT buying stuff, and the things it helps me see and realize about consumer culture online. So, I'm not sure sponsored content would align very well in general. Perhaps I need to seek out Leena's video and see how she navigates that! I'd be more open to doing paid content on a music channel since that's my actual area of expertise and passion...and there ARE channels where I don't mind sponsored content or ads because the content to me IS worth it. I have just realized that much of what I used to watch out of habit is not worth it. I will definitely be thinking about these nuances more!!! Thanks for asking 😄
fantastic thoughts and reflections!
Karolina! the meme mom!!!!!
Also, what are your thoughts about CZcamsrs who create their own small businesses on the back of their channel and audience?
@jemgirlatthepiano ooh thank you for asking, I think this may need to be included in a follow up video 😄
@Alexas.nobuyyear yay! Looking forward to it!
This channel is such a breath of fresh air for me. My weakness is mostly fashion, so I immediately recognized the second creator you described and share many similar thoughts about her channel and others. I really appreciate how you compassionately share your thought process and the evolution therein, which makes me recognize my own evolution. I also love it when individuals can hold multiple seemingly contrasting points or truths at the same time (e.g.: this behaviour makes me wonder its ethicality, while I also respect their right to operate that way AND I understand that not everything is geared towards me). Please keep creating video's - judging from the comments here, it's clear that I'm not the only one who feels this way!
edited to add: I guess with some creators I feel like they have lost their authenticity and a true adherence to the values they pretent to adhere to, which gives you that so called 'ick' - and which is why I think that your channel and train of thought feel like a breath of fresh air - to make this comment come full circle. 😀
I'm so glad that my intentions were recognized - like I said a couple of times this week I'm really not trying to judge or blame or say inflammatory stuff it's really just the things I notice when I've stopped buying and shopping. So this is really reassuring to read! I'll do my best to keep sharing despite being a bit worried about saying the "wrong" thing sometimes haha
Hey Alexa ☺️ Loving your videos. I find that I also end up having to unsubscribe to channels when they start going against the reason I started watching them. Can you recommend any channels that are more supportive of your ethos? 🙏🏼
Haha, I was getting ahead of myself. You’ve listed some now 😊
Yes! But also, even with creators I like, these days I'm actually thinking twice before I watch everything they post because I want to feel like I will benefit from (either be entertained or challenged or informed or whatever) what I am about to watch, whereas I used to just make my way through all of my subscriptions (more or less) without considering if it was a good use of my time.
@@Alexas.nobuyyearYes, i know what you mean
It's interesting to hear about your experience being influenced by sponorships and your experience is a lot different then mine :)
Since I can remember I havn't liked shopping much and next I live in Denmark but watch mostly channels based in canada or the USA, so often I can't shop at the sponsorships or the products showcased in peoples homes. Now I'm thinking that's maybe mostly the recent why I just skip the sponsored part of videos.
I'm also realising now seeing this video that I'm probably even more annoyed with the "normal" ads before, under and after videos especially if I watch YT one the TV cause the portion with ads are longer than on my computer.
I guess creators don't have a say in which ads I'm shown, but wow I'm tired of see Always bad commercials about pads 😅
I guess I have been under a rock for too long LOL But I get it, this has been a trend for a litte while now, and I had unsubscribe also to many creators already, for the marketing and also because at some point the content has become repetitive, so I decided to put distance to the theory and do some practice LOL (No buy July at the moment, and finding straight to let go of many things.) Thanks to put the light on this, it is a topic we need to discuss more. New subscriber here. btw now I'm curious about the identity of those creators 😅
So I listened to your video very carefully and I just kept thinking - wow this individual has never been subjected to '70s and 80's broadcast television advertisement campaigns. As a young child and teen (I stopped watching tv for several years in my late teens and 20's (1990's) and now I just don't care) I was BOMBARDED with advertising and quickly developed a thick "ad immunity skin" (partially through getting burned with deceptive ads *glares at Saturday morning cartoons ads*) and learned to ignore them (unless it was Star Wars related - never outgrew that). I can still sing ad jingles to products that I NEVER buy. My suggestion - desensitize yourself to the ads, or even view them as more entertainment - they will ALWAYS be a part of entertainment media. Best wishes! I have now subscribed to your channel.
yes! i remember the jingles too! plus i made a reference to QVC in my comment but then realized there might be a whole generation of people out there who don't know about QVC, Home Shopping Network, etc haha the good old days
@@justsomebunny Ha! Yes! QVC - the obligatory late-night-and-I-can't-sleep programming☺
Yes for sure! And alas I was born in '93 so I missed the 70s and 80s ads 😅
Your comment made me think that I actually do think I'm fairly desensitized to TV or "produced" ads, but not so much the ads where the "main character of the content" is delivering the ad. Like if the movie paused in action so the main actor could deliver a scripted ad, or the TV sitcom lead started recommending a product for the viewer to try. I'm going to have to explore this further! Thank you for this comment!
I pay for CZcams premium to avoid ads, only to have to fast forward through sponsorships/ads ugh it’s never ending. Idk who the people are you were talking about but I have started unsubscribing from some people as well that are constantly pushing sponsorships on every single video. It’s so cringe.
Yes! I also have to wonder how much these creators are making with so many sponsored videos - not that that's a problem exactly, but it does kind of feel like a system where if some people are making it "big", surely there are others who are then hit with the other side, somewhere...even if it's just the budgeting of big companies allocating advertising $$ vs. prioritising paying fair wages to laborers in overseas factories in some cases.
The first creator your talking about...I've had similar feelings the past year with the content. I've learned alot from her but there have been a handful of videos that I've felt contradicted her intent of minimalism.
The garbage bag holder for the car sent me 😂😂 and I'm still anti decanting spices. Idk. I just wanted to say I've had the same thoughts as you. And it makes me wonder how many thousands of people bought stuff they didn't need from that one video alone.
One minimalist creator I used to watch, did a sponsorship for better help. In the ad she said that she has never needed to use the service but it's great. At least she was honest but how can you sell something you've never used? And it made me wonder how often this is the case. I had to stop watching her because every video became sponsored. The last straw was when I even fell for AG1 from this creator. After trying it, I'm like of course people can recommend this if they are given it for free! It made me realize how sponsorships in general, can't be trusted. Your perspective is totally different when something didn't cost hours of your time.
This! Yes! Sponsored content and also even if it's just PR. Like if creators were honest, there's only a few categories that product can be.
It's either (unlikely) a product you already know and love, in which case maybe you've mentioned it organically, unsponsored, and would ACTUALLY talk about it for free. I wouldn't get too mad if this was all the sponsored stuff we saw. Or maybe a brand you DO genuinely want to try, in which case you need a testing period before you know if YOU would rebuy it, and certainly should not recommend it before you know this.
Or finally it's a brand you either chose NOT to buy or haven't even heard of before, in which case why would you even consider being paid to recommend it? Oh right, it's the whole "being paid" thing. 🥲
Can I ask who it is? Not gonna send hate, just genuinely curious if I follow her too lol
Since this comment reply is hopeful buried enough to "name names" - the first creator is "the Minimal Mom" and second is Christina Mychas. And full transparency I am still "subscribed," but now just don't click on all the videos they post before thinking about whether I need the "advice" or if I'm likely to see sponsorships!
Hi Alexa 👋 I'm a new subscriber, not even doing a no-buy year, but I absolutely love your channel & videos! I started my own decluttering journey back in 2021. I still had a bunch of paperwork, stationery, old clothes, etc. That just wasn't serving me anymore. I watched The Minimalists' documentary ages ago, and ever since that, I started focusing on streamlining where I can (e.g. my makeup routine, skincare) and this changed my entire outlook. While I still enjoy shopping (tk maxx is a huge weakness for me 😅) I actively only try to buy what I need vs what I "want". I too, declutter my CZcams subscriptions regularly 😅 I despise intense advertising such as Our Place, Wild etc. Thanks for sharing your no buy journey and consumerism experiences, they really do help 😊
Thank you! I also saw the Minimalists' documentary and have enjoyed practicing ideas geared towards a more simple life! It's funny though that even knowing these ideas, I still continued to buy stuff I didn't truly need. But my time for change has finally come 😄
Same here 😂! Although I do subscribe to the notion that we can be Minimalists if all the objects we have bring us joy, and we don'thave any excess clutter. I don’t believe we need "empty rooms" with the bear minimum 😊
I used to feel bad about fast forwarding through the sponsorships of my favourite creators, but not any more. Yes some are influential but above all they are so boring. There’s nothing new you can tell about skillshare, vpn of whatever the frick they’re promoting.
Although there is a couple of channels and podcasts that make really funny sketches for their sponsorships that always take a weird turn 😅 honestly, sometimes I wonder how they got the approval from the brands
Like Bernadette Banner? I find her sponsorship sketches very entertaining 😁
@@scrappy6932 true Bernadette has a very filmographic style to her videos in general, but the specific example I had in mind is Map Men (yes it’s a channel about maps 😅). They have a very absurdist humor
@@mukatsa sounds fabulous!
Right? A lot of times they seem totally scripted and therefore all the same. But I do appreciate the few examples where the personality of the creator is so strong that it's still present even during the ad segment and I think it takes much more skill to integrate that way. Like keeping IN character and theme, versus the "theme" just being "basic everyday life" and therefore I can throw any product at you.
In some ways it almost suggests to me that if you HAVE a strong character presence, strong message, thematic presentation, and ad is more forgivable and doesn't dilute everything you're trying to stand for, whereas if you are general "relatable" creator it is just distracting from your message to put in the sponsored segments. Hmmm...
@@Alexas.nobuyyear yes, it definitely helps to have a persona or a direction for their channel, which in turn should guide them to the brands and sponsorships that aline with their values.
The spice jar example...agree completely...why in heck would you throw out one jar to replace with another, waste time pouring spices and adding labels. I also feel like this plays into a completely useless tendency/pressure toward perfectionism. I understand not liking the look of different jars, but then put them away in a cabinet where you don't need to see them. I have noticed a thing with some minimalist influencers...that is when they reach a certain point, when all the decluttering is done, and just at the point where they should be sitting back a bit and enjoying the benefits, and maybe pivoting to new content that is about the benefits of their minimized life, they start doing these "perfectionist" things. It's like they...just....can't...stop.
With regard to storage containers of any kind, one of the best feelings in my minimalism journey was when I got to the point that I was giving away now empty storage containers, from the big rubbermaid tubs to the pretty little boxes/baskets...all the containers I bought to "organize" my excess.
Yes! And congrats on reaching the point of having nice storage because it's not necessary to have the large plastic bins.
Even more ridiculous when you think that in a normal person's life, how many people see the inside of your pantry or spice cabinet? I can count that number on one hand (maybe two, I have a lot of family here) and it's 100% family and close friends, not people who would care or even appreciate how neat that area of my life is. So why does anyone appreciate or care about seeing a stranger on the Internet's perfectly organized spice cabinet? Not saying people who have become interested are bad for that but to me it just suggests that maybe something weird is going on.
It sucks when consumerism sneaks in to "minimalist" or "no buy" creators' videos. I watch these types of content for encouragement on my no buy year, not to be shown cute things that I may want to buy. It's hypocritical to be preaching about overconsumption while having your video revolve around an ad for a product.
Yes 100%. I do understand the conundrum because I too have shown "stuff" on this channel, because having to go through and confront all the things I bought is in fact helping me that I truly do not need any more, no matter what "new innovations" or "trends" or whatever it is may try and convince me I do need more.
Of course showing stuff in an incidental way and having a directed AD or sponsorship are different, but in general I hope to have a better ratio of purely idea-focused videos vs. videos with "stuff" at all here on this channel.
Oh no, mininal mom is at fault 100%. I'll say it. I may have said it before...she had a video aimed at women who impulsively shop, the title was something like 'stop impulsively shopping for good". The first minutes were about shopping, with the bulk of the video being about items to buy yourself for mothers day!!! I left a comment and so did a lot of other women about the bait and switch. I didn't unsub at that point because I thought she'd address it. Well, she did. She was defensive and said people left her mean comments and she doesn't care, they can just go away and her REAL fans know her heart (paraphrase, of course). I was floored! I unsubscribed immediately. Disgusting behavior..especially for a Christian content creator. We're humans, we goof...we admit our flaws and failures. No biggie. But her attitude about it was gross.
I saw that video too! I'm not sure I saw the one where she responded but it did start the wheels turning for me, as far as creators "selling out" and putting all the responsibility onto the viewers when they, too, have a choice in the matter - and they are the ones who decide if we see the stuff or not at that point. Without a warning we don't have a choice to avoid until the "ad" has already started and I really don't like this, at least not when a creator is set up to make money from it.
Thank you for sharing.
I Watch a video saying minimaliste YT is not “sustainable “ because they cannot “make” money unless they change sooooo that might explain certain switch for a certain pharmacist 🤭 what made me loose interest is that now they are a “stylist “ and I’m not against a change of career can you please have more credentials then a CZcams channel? Anyway I’m not against a sponsorship I’m more against people with people offering services without proper experience or education same goes with fitness CZcamsr
I find "style" (and fitness) to be so personal that it's really hard to make recommendations for other people, and like you said especially without formal qualifications that are designed to provide the necessary background to know how to personalize recommendations to someone's needs. I think the "how to" and "you MUST" kind of videos get more views though so we have a bunch of "experts" in all categories now! Not for me to judge but this is why I'm really trying to keep my channel based on only MY personal experience and try not to say YOU (or anyone) "should" do this...
Minimalism isnt just about getting less stuff, its about beeing mindfull. At least to me. For me having a container under the sink for my stuff there is helpfull because its easier to put things back for me if i do. Same with makeup and other things. That might be her intent aswell, giving tips to finding tools that helps the dayly shores easier. I also have the one in one out rule, and it makes me more aware and mindfull about what i already have and purshase. Dont forget there is many ways to goal. Everyone needs money, they chose their sponsorships to fit themself, and if you dont wanna see it, just skip it. The content may still come in helpfull. Completely agree that creators should be mindful off who they let sponsor them tho, for many reasons. Also on mo thing i, even tho creators influence us, they are not resposible for our lives. They cant force us to buy anything, but its easier to focus outwards and finding faults, put blame on others rather than taking self accountability. This is actually smth your shannel have made me realize i need to focus more on, and i have a project going on thanks to this. Being influenced is a choice. Edit, and it takes a bit of self awareness to understand that. Digging into self is helpfull during a process like this.
Many of us are not easily influenced and can handle temptation but some can't!
I commented this in a similar form unter the video we talk about: there are a lot of affiliate links. Maybe a DIY project would do the job better. Or a hook with a little wire container from the basement. But we don’t know as you cannot buy them on Amazon - no links, no money. I cannot trust a channel to really offer the best solution if it’s paid in any way. And it was only the last straw. Her wardrobe videos always irritated me. She is also very close to another CZcamsr who even made a temu sponsorship. Ok, maybe it’s a bit unfair to put it on her as she’s not the other CZcamsr. But everything suddenly has a brand / shop. As the very practical hooks in her boys room makeover ( one of the last videos I actually enjoyed). It’s easy to say you’re not influenced by it. But the massive amount of products, of consumption shapes your „normal“ and as she’s a minimalist who buys 10 pieces of clothing from brand XY - why shouldn’t I? Although I don’t need it. Although studies say that more than 5 per year is unsustainable. It’s indirect influencing for „keeping up with the minimalists“.
We don’t know the intentions behind this content. But it’s clear: as you make your living doing these ads you’ll be influenced yourself, you’re not independent in you decision what to show. For some long-time subscribers they also have a parasocial relationship with these creators. They feel like it’s a FRIEND making recommendations. The comments often showcase this. Therefore it’s so important to talk about this. If you still enjoy the content - go for it. But I think it’s important to openly talk about the problems because not everybody is aware.
I totally agree that it's about mindfulness as well and more about "keeping what is valuable to you" and sure, for some, organizational solutions may still be valuable. So your comment really brought up something interesting in me because my "answer" to that I guess, is that I want to make sure that I'm not letting other people influence what I think is valuable - at least, not too much. I don't want to see so many people getting organizers that I now think I need that, even if I didn't initially see that as a "need".
With that particular creator I do still find a lot of what she says and shares to have value and I want to get the value of the IDEAS, but not the value of whatever "stuff" that they might value for themselves and their own lives.
Influencers make their income this way, but I would also love to see content that is just spotlighting the ideas without also showing stuff or sponsored brands. Maybe that's a lot to ask these days and I'm definitely not saying they should not, or that it's "wrong" objectively even if I personally would prefer not to dilute my ideas with ads or sponsored segments if that ever comes up in the future of my "social media presence".
And yes, they can't force us to buy! My closing points this week are basically exactly that, that while the system may not be helping us because it's full of ads and sponsorships and things that entice us to buy, ultimately we have the power to choose not to and I personally definitely don't blame anyone else for what was a "me" problem that I can change. I'm definitely not trying to avoid my own responsibility in this or place blame externally even if I do believe it's kind of an issue (or pitfall) of the system.
Thank you for encouraging this further thinking and exploration! 😊
Also sorry, but one more thing after i read the comments section in this video, why does people being compelled to trash other like styles or or living style? Why so little wiggle room? Also who makes the commenters the judges of their lives?? I mean if you wanna spend time swap spice containers thats not someone elses choise 😂 you can have thoughts and questions if its minimal or not, but how anyone chose to interpret minimalism differs and it is personal. Not only one straight line to goal guys!! Most of these comments comes off as mother knows best from tangled or jealousy and that a little bit sad. I thought minimalism had conciouss and more caring people but obviously not…
If someone wanna show off their hard earn, concious and expensive purshase? Then fine!! Isnt that great?? That she don’t have to buy shitty quality that creates child labour, environmental mikro plastic and have to re purshase it in half a year?? I look at that as a goal.
Edit: i personally just choose to skip creators ad and kinda differ from the creator and person i watch.
What I do instead is not purshase anything with a visible logo on. Lets say purse or tote with advertisement or big logo/print all over, tops with title all over like levi’s and things like that.
I simply choose to watch the person I like, and filter what I don’t need.
I agree that judgement is not the way - and I really do try to not judge or be open to people having different styles and tastes and etc. even if sometimes I say the wrong thing - I think at least for me with that specific video it wasn't just the spice jars but the fact that it seemed "product focused" and I realized, for me that isn't the kind of video I wanted to watch. And that IS my fault this time! That creator has put "products" in the title of the video so I should have not clicked on it. Of course they should make and show what they choose to.
I think my goal here was to express that at this point in my year of thinking about shopping and "stuff" I have realized that just because I like a creator and I like a lot of their ideas, I do still have to be careful that I don't just click everything they make without thinking what I might learn from it. I hope that makes sense - it was supposed to be a lesson for ME, to get better at filtering what I don't need.
@@Alexas.nobuyyear 💯💯