How We Dropped Our Filament Prices AGAIN | $15 3D Printer Filament
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
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Today we are excited to announce another price reduction for Tangled Filament, one step closer on the Road to $10 Filament!
Starting from a standard industry price, we've achieved a 30% reduction in costs by improving operational efficiency. Discover the specific strategies we used, from introducing larger spool sizes to optimizing shipping logistics, and learn about our future plans to further drive prices down to below $10. Tangled Filament is about more than just offering cheap 3D printing filament, it's about creating a low-cost raw material supply chain that allows Mass Production 3D Printing to compete with traditional manufacturing processes.
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It's hard to overstate the importance of what's being done here. These guys are proving that close to home manufacturing is price and quality competitive. It also has a MUCH smaller carbon footprint since goods don't travel nearly as far, AND it reduces supply chain issues associated with global trade. I hope investors take note and we see more of this in all kinds of manufacturing and consumer goods
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Well said. 👍
Except it's not? I've been paying sub-$10 just watching amazon deals for the last few months. Love the concept but he's still 50%+ of the way from actually being remotely competitive if you're doing this commercially
I really hope someone will do this in Europe too. Well, there's at least someone who has sold ~15€ filament but from what I've read the quality was so crap it just wasn't worth it.
I hope you gain great success in this venture. It's nice to see a company mention paying their employees good wages and keeping the cost to the consumers reasonable. You win more baseball games with base hits than grand slams.
Thank you!
@@slant3d Etsy plugin ? Wheres all time fave latest WordPress ? Would help me a lot with my future business
As a hobbyist, I've had a blast with my first 3KG spool, and will certainly get another pretty soon! It's so liberating to just not even think about whether I've got enough filament for a print, or whether a model I found is "worth spending the material on".
Couldn't agree more! Thanks for the support
Using 3 kg spools has 67% less end of spool waste than 1 kg spools. I also love the convenience of less spool swapping.
It's been great seeing the rapid progress to improve the process and quality and decrease filament cost. Great job on PLA! I'm very much looking forward to $30 for a 3 kg spool of black PETG... and US manufacturing!
Already us manufacturing
@@slant3d - Yes, as I said, US manufacturing. Boise Idaho. Austin Texas next. Awesome.
Thank you for all you do! I’m just a hobbyist, but I’m so happy I found your channel. I like your state of 3D vids, and love your mission to make cheaper filament for all. Thanks for not nickel and diming us. You’re a pioneer!
You are so welcome!
Smart business model. I'll give your PLA a shot and hopefully it will make me look forward to your PETG, as that's what I run the most and will eventually transition into for almost everything.
Thanks
Would you guys ever consider shipping master spools? Or like “Bambu style refills.” Seems like it could cut cost down even more and save plastic not having to ship a spool and you can ship just the filament.
I agree this is a great idea! I LOVE Prusa's approach with the cardboard core spools that can be disassembled to easily load a refill of just filament onto them. Slip the pre-wound filament on, put the plastic disk back on, pull 4 paper wraps off, and Presto! Saves spools, shipping weight, and waste.
Working on it
Of course you are! 😎
I used some sunlu master spool stuff. It was a little finicky, I fear it increases the chance of tangles. When the bands are remove when after placed in the spool it expands to fit the space a bit and comes slightly unwound
I didn't have that experience with Prusa's, but Prusa also leads the industry in spool winding quality. It's insane how consistently perfect they get theirs wound. haha That said I only buy Prusament when I can justify a large qty because the shipping is f'ing outrageous from CR to US; it easily makes their already expensive filament unfathomable for anything less than 10kg at a time.
This is another reason I am patiently awaiting Tangled PETG, as that is my usual go-to material. I love Prusament PETG and am really looking forward to comparing it to Tangled PETG as a locally sourced alternative.
Been following your channel for a while now, glad to see all of the amazing progress!
Thank you for looking out for the lil guys/gals. Just bought 3 rolls. I will update on you know, how this "experimental" filament is on my lil farm. I'm ecstatic. ✌
Good news and good luck! Thanks for the update.
Love the work for the community! Keep it up. It’s time for a big restock
Good luck man, hope you and your team succeed in your goals
Nice to see someone working hard to drive costs down in todays world. I know it all comes back around to benefit you, but even if your intentions have nothing to do with making things better for everyone else, its exactly what youre doing, and we as a community cannot thank you enough.
You should see an Argentine factory, here the filament is very cheap, it used to be 3 USD per kg, now it is between 11 and 14 USD per kg. When you compare prices, use the parallel exchange rate (dollar blue) is the one used
While I am looking forward to more colors in the future, black is something I'm on the cusp of needing again, so when I do I'll definitely be picking up some of this
Congrats, gonna place an order!
But PLEASE MAKE GREY!!
Excellent!!! Keep up the good work guys!
Great video, yes to petg! Its exciting to hear things are going so well and according to plan! Are you planning on having two locations, or moving from where you are to your texas location? Any chance we can get a tour of the facility youre in now? I love the BTS of US manufacturing 🥳
i am now only guying filament from you guys. you made a claim and you are showing progress. kudos to you.
Huge congrats on this one. I always thought you charged shipping so to hear its free is amazing. Would love a 5kg spool but going to give this a try today. This is the same price/kg as ive paid for Polymaker PLA Pro 5kg spools on prime day (which I would love to see a comparison on tangled testing) so definitely is my entry point now.
Tangled testing is coming.
We're rooting for you man!
Looking forward to PETG offering. Love the frequent and informative updates.
Congrats! Thank you
Thanks to you too!
Really shows what can be done about the price of consumer filament if that's the focus.
Good afternoon! First I'd like to say thank you for your tutorials in better design for printed parts, it's been extremely insightful and improved some of my personal projects.
Second, do you have any plans to start producing local ASA filament?
Its a huge hump to get over, getting your costs down on the basic process and ensuring the consistency people need. Glad you seem to be there.
PetG is ok, but while it has some big advantages over PLA, it has some real issues with mass market adoption, because it has some bed adhesion challenges for beginners. My big issue with PETG is that I have a ton of PLA I use, and I can't mix filament types and temperature settings, so I mostly stick to pla...but thats just me
I also need a broad and consistent color range. I use tons of black, and quite a bit of white, but I need about 30 colors in the end, and moving into that space is tough. I wish you luck!
You can have any color you want. As long as it is black
Been following since the start and it is quite nice to see this milestones. One question I have is there are already companies with near 10 dollar per kg filaments (elegoo) which uses bulk shipping as a way to make it cheaper. How much do you think your filament would be cheaper if you sold it as 4/10 kg packages?
Very excited for PETG as I've been transitioning from PLA for most uses.
Awesome! Just placed my order!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
A texas based filament company??? HECK YES! Pennies on the doller for my shipping! I'll look at what yall have today!
Congrats!
Living in Central Oregon I am super excited for this since you guys are so close and now I can buy American and know shipping should not be that much or take that long. With PETG being my filament of choice. Cant wait!
Shipping is free
Do these spools fit in a Bambu Labs AMS and/or AMS lite?
Congrats and keep going!
Thank you! Will do!
have you thought about making spooless filaments?
One thing I really hope you guys do is make spools recyclable. I'm sure there's a way to manufacture spools to be recyclable in a manner that allows you to cut costs and also be more eco friendly. I still have no idea what to do with the 30+ spools that sit idle in my garage. I have some reusable spools, sure but nothing you offer comes in a form factor that fits this. I really hope you also offer some cheaper refills that skip the spool entirely
I enjoy following your work on tangled filament, How ever I would like to take issue with the comment @5:24 about being in a miserable part of the States. If you are saying that so others will not move there the OK but otherwise it is a good location with good people. Thanks for all the other info on the 3D world.
Second to Alaska in shipping cost.
@@slant3dwould be nice to at least have an option to pay for shipping to Alaska instead of just not offering it
I'm excited to see you talking about producing PETG. I really love PETG and if I can get it at a reasonable price from a US based company, I may never go back to amazon filaments.
We need more guys like u also in Europe. Good Job
AzureFilm in Slovenija or Aurapol in the Czech Republic produce in Europe and sell for reasonable prices, the cheapest AzureFilm PETG is under 10 Euro per kg - also Reycling Fabrik in Germany sell recycled filament for a reasonable price
@Slant 3D Have you thought about recycling the filament waste? From supports, failed and no longer used prints?
Looking forward to you shipping to Denmark, EU :)
Hello, I have two questions, will you in some time soon deliver to countries in Europe (like Belgium)? I also got the problem when I'm respooling 3kg spools from esun PLA to 1kg that they would snap with the smaller radius in the inside of the spool, you don't notice it until you print to that point. Does your filament have the same issue? Thx for making these filaments more affordable. Good luck getting to the 10 dollar mark!
As an Austinite, I'm VERY interested in your new Austin location, I hope you keep us updated! I've also melted PETG in the Texas sun, I'd love to see ASA or PC in the future.
My suggestion is HIPS. Similar temperature resistance to ABS and ASA, very easy to print, super cheap. I also genuinely wonder what pure polystyrene is like to print, because polybutadiene goes a little all wobbly, which is also why ABS has so much die swell - HIPS does not, because it's not a copolymer. So in ABS the polybutadiene can just flail around the complete resin as it unfurls, while in HIPS it does not, since they're just blended together not chemically connected. So i do wonder what happens if you just delete polybutadiene. I mean obviously it will be shiny not matte, but what else.
I do wonder if say a digikey would be able to help with logistics they seem todo ultra well with theres even for giant 50 kilo orders..
A 30% price reduction in less than a year is HUGE! Thank you for taking on this challenge!
This video put you on my map! Although I have to ask, why plastic spools versus cardboard? Is that somehow cheaper than the cardboard spool? The advantage cannot be understated of having a cardboard spool to just be able to put it in recycling instead of feeling guilty when you have to throw an entire piece of plastic away or find some other place to reuse that plastic spool.
You didnt mention it but are there plans to accomodate for the Refillable filament market?
When do you think y’all will come out with a PLA+?
Well you just matched the price of the black I've been using and its in stock now so gonna have to try it! Is your goal to get colors down lower as well? I really Try to keep colors under $20 a spool. Average I get is around $18. be awesome If you can get colors down to $15 - $18 per spool.
I enjoy your videos both from a 3D printing perspective, but also from a business perspective. I can't wait for you to start selling PETG. While I want to support you now, I print very little PLA. If PLA was sold in single KG spools, I could do so. However, I understand why you do not.
Can you please provide a detailed TDS for the filament? I recognize this is a significant effort, but it would certainly help you compete with others such as Voxel PLA who also provides low cost, but quality filament.
Do you plan on making more exotic filaments like tpu,nylon,pc ?
Can you do cardboard spools or refills instead of disposable plastic spools?
Just bought my first tangled filament to help get to $10
Are you using zip lock bags for your filament?
Excellent news. Congrats, a major achievement.
Look forward to the day when tangled filament is offered in a color other than black. Do realize, like Ford in the early days, Slant 3d needs to focus on scaling and it's core business.
In Mexico, they're around $8.51 to $10 USD per KG for PETG, for some reason PETG is cheaper than PLA here. Average quality. Also this is including profit plus a 10-30% fee, so these sellers here are buying it for probably under $5 USD. It's pretty wild, hope these price reach the US soon :)
Cool stuff! Planned to ship abroad like EU (Germany)?
Will it be available internationally anytime soon? I'm from Croatia waiting to buy tangled filament :)
Does anyone know how the performance of this pla compares to the usual pla+ specs? If it’s at least close I’d probably switch since it isn’t made overseas
PLA plus on the roadmap?
would you consider spool-less refill rolls and/or cardboard spools?
He had done vids on cardboard spools before, designed his own as well with a vase mode 3D printed centre spider. It was heavily contemplated.
But also some people won't buy cardboard spools, because they don't work well with rim loaders like the Bambu AMS, so that's a major reason not to do that.
Do you have international shipping?
How low can it actually get? I suspect just optimizing the process and at some point in time moving next to a refinery to have kess transport costs.
Can you make the spools cardboard instead of plastic?
Any more we use reused spools predominantly
I use a lot of SUNLU , it runs 12.99/ kg as long as I buy at least 6kg as a time.
I've been using Elegoo Rapid PLA+ and Rapid PETG. They sell packs with four 1 kg spools. The regular Amazon price is ~$50 but I usually get it on sale for $40, or $10/kg. It's good, but I'm looking forward to 3 kg spools from Tangled at $30.
Im sure this has been asked an answered a million times, but does the 1kg filament fit in the bambulab AMS?
soexciting toimagine someone in the uS ramping up a PETG factory, i hope a big US based company copies you honesty. or buys you out and helps you expand.
Cool. I need more filiment and at thus price gotta try out some black
when international shipping
Glad to hear the shipping hub in Austin! At 15 alone is a great reason buy American made filament. When the 10$ per K comes along. Your going to keep UPS FedEx busy
Free shipping already
when can we expect 10kg spool pla black and white deliverable in europe ?
I don't think this will ever get a foot in europe. Shipping from US to Europe costs more than just getting a spool from china.
I wish there is company like this one in UK.
I think the best kinds of 3D printing materials that I enjoy using is something that is fibre filled due to its layer hiding feature.
Does it ship to europe?
Doing the 3D printer God's work.
I wonder what % of the cost of the spool is the spool frame itself, maybe if it's made from cardboard or other material it'll be cheaper. Or maybe no spool frame at all. Also I heard somewhere, pellet feed 3D printers may be a thing in the near future.
this is pretty big. Waiting for $10 milestone and more colors
Thoughts on PCTG?
Congratulations to all at Slant for setting the template for the future of manufacturing and the insightful and generous way you enable other print farms to grow.
Our pleasure!
They are doing nothing new, while pretending they are.
Reusable spools!
Is there a way to just ship the filament without the spool? You can ship in a smaller box and it saves weight.
Does tangeled in some time open a warehouse in europe?
Will you guys ship to Canada at some point?
Hopefully soon
Any chance ABS will get to 15$?
What does just the spool with out filament cost?
I have some spares I can send you for the cost of shipping. :-)
Once you successfully cheapen filament I hope to see you guys make your own printer.
Will you start shipping to Europe anytime soon?
That sort of defeats the whole purpose doesn't it... We just need local print farms with a filament side business, and they're welcome to copy his success recipe.
Definitely looking forward to PETG; I can use PLA to test shapes, but PETG is what makes things that can handle a fair amount of automotive conditions. Great work on this product development journey!
I bought 3 spools and got an email then next day that the price dropped lol.
We do move fast.
i cant wait for the petg
You can maybe make a cheaper tear of filament that is just spulled up in a bag without a spool. It would lower the cost of shipping and manufacturing of the spool and be more environmentally friendly. It wouldn't take more than 10min to spool it by yourself at home.
Is this filament good for high speed printing?
From seeing a few of their estimates on time to print, I'm presuming that they are not doing this as pla-hs. That may be more of a limit on their printers though. I'm presuming that they have optimized the printer design at Slant3D to reduce maintenance costs, rather than raw speed. It looks like they are printing at something like 75-150 mm/s. If you are going for 300 mm/s, you may need to go with a longer extruder hot zone.
@@RNMSC excellent answer thanks
Man I wish a company like this existed in the EU
Have you considered getting into HIPS?
I find it's easy to print open frame, i'm struggling with it a lot less than with PETG, and the raw material must be quite inexpensive. It's also resilient, can be sanded and painted, looks nice straight from the nozzle too.
The problem with HIPS is... basically lack of marketing, or rather bad marketing. Everybody knows ASA and ABS, which are both more troublesome, ABS a LOT more troublesome, and ASA is more expensive. HIPS is known as... support material, as if it was some sort of throwaway garbage, while the material is highly resilient, not any less long term durable than ABS and rather more so, and it just prints so well. So it's not guaranteed that you'd sell any of it. Also i wonder what pure polystyrene is like without butadiene additive. Because as opposed to SBS and other styrene plastics, HIPS is not a copolymer, it's a blend of just styrene and just butadiene, which is also why it doesn't release so much styrene stink, as copolymerisation is the chief cause of styrene polymerisation inhibition. It still releases some so it is still somewhat poisonous to print... but like ABS is really bad and still people buy that in large amounts?
An American hero!
Sadly you don’t deliver to Germany. I wanted to order some filament, but couldn’t do it. Don’t want to use redirection services for it.
Petg is good. That will be good.
Hope you open an easy Coast factory. Central NC could really use some industry. If that ever happens, hire me? I'm a procurement specialist and a 3D printing nerd. Cheers!
You need to highlight FREE shipping in the continental US everywhere (if your not changing that)
Free shipping in the Continental US everywhere
you should make a spoolof 3d printer filament thats perfect for weed wackers. i wonder what sort of factory youd need for that