Norwich City AGM 2023 | Delia Smith, Michael Wynn Jones and Mark Attanasio Reaction | The Pink Un
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- čas přidán 29. 11. 2023
- Norwich City held their 2023 AGM meeting at Carrow Road, with the club's board of directors taking questions from shareholders. Delia Smith, Michael Wynn Jones and Mark Attanasio spoke to us following the meeting.
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The fans have paid loads of cash, travelled up and down the country and watched dross, thats why they are negative Delia.
Yes - that is what supporting your local team is "bravo win or die"?
@@junctionfilms6348 that's called winning mentality
As an Ipswich supporter, I am somewhat surprised that Norwich have gone from being a well run club, with a decent team, to a club seemingly rudderless and heading towards mediocrity.
IF Norwich do not get promoted before the Parachute payments finish, there will need to be a really big reset.
Ipswich had a totally horrible time under Marcus Evans, as Norwich supporters know well, and IF you do not sort yourselves out, that is where you are heading.
How extraordinary that Delia would say that 20% of the Norwich City fans are "whingers", so that is approx 5,000 fans she doesn't like. The supporters that regularly express positive and negative emotions vociferously are generally those in The Barclay (capacity around 6,300) so basically she is writing most of them off. That is an unwise comment.
Yes attacking the customers / supporters when the club is failing is a bold move.
There are more norwich fans than those who go to every game. Probaby over 200,000 in total as a rough estimate. I know Norwich fans in Botswana.
@@bigredonthetrail373 200,000 - doubt it.
I won’t be going for as long as Delia Smith is in charge. I will gladly will put myself in the 20% as I care about the club and worry how it is being run. I believe our ‘custodians’ have passed their sell by date, and for every comment like this destroys more of their legacy to date.
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Thanks for putting this up, very interesting watch.
Delia coming off a little bitter towards the fans now, Attanasio sitting there thinking ssshhhhh Delia!
Yeah, his body language wasn’t terribly good during Delia’s responses.
Connor... what an interviewer! You asked some tough questions and didnt shy away when they started getting a bit defensive. I wasn't particularly impressed by some of their answers, their shock at the idea that some supporters lack confidence in the board is bemusing. Their alienation of the 20% of 'whingers' came across as dismissive of fans concerns, yet they admit they are unhappy with performances too. Bigging up Portsmouth and Ipswich while denegrating your own fans isnt ideal either.
I think they would do better to just say 'I understand why fans are frustrated, we are too. NCFC face unique challenges financially and we have, and will, work tirelessly to get the best results possible for our fans' and then keep their opinions about the 'whingers' to themselves. They could even say 'I know it can be difficult when we are in a poor run of form, but please try to keep supporting the team as best you can as negativity can affect the players and make it even harder to turn poor form around'
It feels to me that they have not just lost their connection with some of the fans but also seem to lack an understanding of the reality that every day people are facing. The cost of living is making life really difficult for the majority of fans who arent wealthy. Paying for tickets/travel to come to a game and watch a dross performance is a real kick to the teeth emotionally and financially.
Very well said couldn't have put it better
Really quite shocking how they keep peddling this narrative that the fans are the CAUSE of the negativity rather than the football!
100%, superb interview from Conner. Wasn’t phased by those in front of him. Didn’t take the bite also when Delia was being condescending.
I’m glad the journos are able to have access now and are able to hold this group accountable.
She should of sold when we went to the prem under Farke the first time. That’s if she truly wanted the club to do well. In this day and age she’s not capable of being a football owner. Doesn’t have the capital. Nor does she have the motivation to run the club properly. Her mindset goes throughout the club. Don’t think she truly realises how far she holds the club back.
So out of the 58 signings Webber made, all she could praise was two of them? Says it all really.
Yes - it is about the same ratio as any other club isn't it - look at all the failed signings Alex Ferguson made over the years, there are many of them.
@@junctionfilms6348 Sorry but comparing Ferguson`s signing to Webbers is pie in the sky, yes he might have made one or two dodgy signings but the 13 premiership titles slightly made up for it. In Norwich`s case how many premier leagues have we won?
@@canarycityreefer8148 It is not a comparison, I am saying that ALL managers lose about half their signings because they dont it in, from Chelsea to Wroxham. There are some 'fans' who like to forget this fact when it suits them or forgot to think about it. Some journalists also apparently.
Did you want her to read a long list ?
Yay you go Delia 🤦🏼♂........ you've just alienated 20% (pretty conservative I'd say) of your fan base with those crass statements about the fans.
But don't you think it's a good thing - refreshing even, in this modern 'pc world' of ours - to have an owner who tells it like it is (from her own point of view, of course) rather than simply taking the easy option of just telling people what they want to hear?
@@mikefoster5277 are you for real?? the self sustaining model (the board have banged the drum about for a long time now) relies heavily on fans pumping money into the club. Do you honestly think alienating a large group of that fanbase is good for business!!! As paying customers they have a right to express their dissatisfaction with how the club is being run and the way the team is performing on the turf, they don't need to be name called and told their opinions are insignificant.
@@krisstoney7644 Whether fans are 'alienated' or not by Delia's honest and straightforward personal comments is down to them! Personally, I'm not at all offended or alienated by the views she's expressed here. Why is that? I guess, because I'm seeing the bigger picture, rather than getting caught up in the little details. If you love the football club enough (as Delia herself clearly does) then maybe you shouldn't feel so easily upset and alienated!
Yes, football nowadays is big business, as we all know - but surely, first and foremost, this is still a local sports club, after all - we're all in it together, throughout all its inevitable ups and downs over the years. As I said, I'd much rather have an owner who's able to publicly speak his/her own mind, rather than someone who feels they just have to go through the motions, by telling people what they want to hear.
@@mikefoster5277 it's precisely because most of the fanbase love the club as much, if not more than DS that they are upset by the way the club is currently being run. As paying customers they have every right to express their views and the only way they can do that is by venting their frustrations through voice and protest over what they see as poor management, poor recruitment and most importantly, totally shambolic performances on the pitch. To counter that DS & MWJ currently also have the right to run the club as they see fit and express their views accordingly. However, sometimes it's better to rise above it and not to stir the hornets nest. The comments by DS have certainly done that and I would suggest you are in the minority in suggesting that was a good PR exercise.
@@krisstoney7644 You're obviously not listening Kris. I didn't say Delia's comments were 'a good PR exercise' at all - in fact, I said just the opposite! I said how refreshing it is to have an owner who's prepared to rise above 'good PR', by being honest and straightforward and speaking her own mind. I'm saying, in my opinion, that 'good PR' (in a competitive sports club especially) is robotic and boring, and doesn't really benefit anyone at the end of the day. I'd much rather see openness, honesty and transparency from the directors - in other words, people being real and true to themselves above all else. Which is what we currently have (hopefully!) The running and management of the football club, and player performances on the pitch, is a different subject and discussion altogether - so let's not confuse the two.
The disconnect could not be starker between the co-owners (Smith and Jones) and fans. Smith comes across as an arrogant know it all and under her tenure the club has gone nowhere. Not good enough for the Premiership and barely good enough for the championship. It's time they were gone.
Mark A couldn’t believe she was saying what she was saying. His body language says it all.
Keep the good work up Connor,like you to keep honest and as you are, breath of fresh air
This is not a good advert for Delia. She is a true fan who has the clubs best interests at heart. However, the fans make the club and they are not stupid boo boys, they know their football and can see clearly when players are not trying, not good enough or the manager has lost the dressing room and is trying desperately without a structure or system that the players understand. There is always a problem for any club that has tasted success and is now in decline playing wise because the fans have expectations, sometimes unreasonable, but in this case they can almost certainly look back and recognise an opportunity lost, especially when you see what much smaller clubs Brentford, Brighton and Bournemouth have achieved during the same period we failed. My question for Delia. Is the board really qualified to select a quality coach/manager? The selections during Delia’s time have been doubtful with 2 notable successes. That’s not a good ratio and I think that the selection process of future coaching staff should be looked at very closely. Oh and I was at Watford on Tuesday and more than 20% of the fans were asking for Wagner’s head. Don’t lose the fans over this.
ENOUGHS ENOUGH...SHE'S GOTTA GO!!!
Don’t piss the people off who pay towards the running of this football club that’s essentially what Delia has done here so much arrogance and sneering at a fan base who pays the highest season ticket price in the Championship and just want to see value in the product they are paying for.
I'm impressed by Attanasio, he has the trust of Delia and Michael, but has much more understanding of what it is going to take going forward. Delia is clearly hurt by recent criticisms, she is feeling under-appreciated and it comes across strongly.
We have to see Attanasio as a bridge between now and the future and support him, he is the one who needs to manage the relationship with Delia and Michael, not us fans.
Sacking Daniel Farke was one of the worst things this club has ever done but at the end of the day Norwich is and always has been a selling club so in reality you're never going to have stability, you're always walking an uphill struggle.
100% correct, been a fan over 50yrs. But sacking Farke was a massive mistake. Best manager since Dave Stringer.
This was always my stance. It would have only ever been worth sacking Farke if his replacement kept us up but if we were to get relegated (as did happen in the end) Farke would get us back up (hell, the guy won the championship twice so he’d proven he could do it).
Love him at Leeds whilst we are still yet to hit first gear under him we are looking better each week genuinely feel if we go up he will do well with us our new owners have plenty of cash to support him
Yes and so then what would you prefer to happen ? When fans sing 'Farke out' the divorcees in the snakepit who think they are ultras or something start all that, blame them? If Farke had stayed probably could have done third time lucky ? It is a gamble isn'it it ?
The stability has come from Delia.
The relationship with Webber broke down...just like it has with you now Delia!!!
The level of cosy delusion as we sleepwalk to relegation and financial meltdown is staggering. Time for Delia and Michael to shuffle off now. Webber still under contract until March. Just because he’s not in the building we don’t think he’s still in Delia’s ear every week? Come on.
Delia had a meeting over "drinks" shockeroonie
Listen, they were only small sherries.
No point extending the stadium. League one football doesn’t entice many people 😬
The club is freefalling, just laughing off the fact the fans are frustrated with where we are currently!
Her dream was to have a manager long term. So why did she/Webber sack Farke then!?
Love how fans thinks Delia will leave 🤣
Attanasio "if you have 3 ceos in 2 years, that's a sign of unhealthy kneejerk reactions"
Wagner isn't ceo though is he. He's got a boss who has a boss.
MA handled this well. I’ve been in situations where a board member/owner needs to be moved on, but you have to play the game. Fans getting disgruntled over a couple of off hand remarks won’t help either. Delia needs to be encouraged to fast track her decision to sell to MA through overwhelming fan positivity toward him, as opposed to negativity toward her.
They look like they are at a wake instead of a A G M
Someone save our football club.
I've heard enough from this interview 🤚
You been drinking again Delia !!
Although the football IS bad, the fans do moan no matter what. Yes it's their right but Delia has a point, we need fresh faces in the fanbase.
Jesus how do you propose we entice these new positive fans??!!
Yes, perhaps a few loanie fans and let's hope Knapper can find us a few freebies. Any town fans interested?
@Yellow-Square maybe transfer a few from Pompey 😆
That’s just football support in general though isn’t it? Football supporters are largely very fickle people. People should try to understand that these guys have been living NCFC day in, day out for nearly three decades. People in the comments are upset that Delia is on the defensive but how would you feel if you’d given so much to a cause only to hear people shout at you and throw verbal abuse every single week? However, the comments from Delia aren’t very professional and I think she should be more empathic in her responses.
I think it’s time for Michael and Delia to move on and you know what? - They should probably have a stand named after them for all they have done for this football club. Most of us will be forever grateful for all these two have done. But this club is not going to be able to keep competing in the modern era by continuing to operate the way that they have been.
@@geoffkirkland867 I think it's time we now became patient and allowed the negative fans to not renew. We had a smaller budget than Derby & Watford etc and still had some title winning seasons in the last 5 years. The season after Maddison and Wes left we won the league, so the swing can quickly go our way again. (Coming from a fan who was at the Watford game)
if you say anything against the team, you are a bad supporter despite paying £100's for a season ticket! Zero gratitude to 20% of supporters! Fan disconnect could not be any worse!
80% of fans happy with this situation is delusional. Spiraling to the lower reaches of the championship in a sleepwalking dream!
20% of fans moaning? They need to get real, more like 90%!
started watching this an tbh i cant even be bothered to hear what delia has got to say
This is a "Dad's army" club owners and players
There's no substitute for experience
She has lost the plot. What a horrible, arrogant old woman. SW was equally as arrogant - probably why they got on so well. If her time wasn't up it most certainly is now. This screams of the bedsheet comment made by SW. These are her final times at NC and she is going out hated. Probably wants to outdo Chase.
Delia and husband do not seem to be present at the matches they are present at!.
We are just not that good!
And Norwich fans are quite susceptible to negativity; this is not a judgment, just an observation ;)
I have been told I cheer them up! :)
Completely in denial....we have no idea....why not tell us then!
Delia, will always be grateful for what you have done for this club, we were that close to folding.
The climate has changed in football, you have massively underestimated the feeling of the fans. I have spent thousands over the years, I have every right to have an opinion, if under performing at work I soon hear about it, so it’s simple really, give 100% to the Norwich no Fan will Boo, play like a clueless bunch of amateurs who can’t manage a game, heads drop at first sign of trouble is just not good enough.
Shame on you Delia for calling fans out, thank you I wish you well but please step aside before you tarnish your legacy.
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Delia, very condescending to all, fans, interviewers. “He went to football every night” errr that’s his job! He hasn’t heard language like that, I’ve met him, a really nice bloke, and he deffo has heard language like that! Mark seems very awkward with their response’s, he speaks much more business sense than they have ever said and actually seems to be able to communicate. Delia couldn’t even pronounce collegial😂
Delia a little befuddled at times me thinks 😕 Atanatsio ( almost certain I Spelled that wrong ) seemed a little uncomfortable with a few things Delia said too.
Pahhahaha looking forward to the 16th! This lot have no energy or apparent drive easy 3 points come on you blues!!!!
It will be the easiest 3 points of your season. Until the return fixture of course. Then that will be the easiest
Putting the rivalry to side (hard as that is for both) Theres nothing like the competition between us, and while i will temporarly enjoy a superioroty complex its not good to see passioate fans so seriuosly let down by club ownership. Believe me we know!!! @@BEASTERNGAMING
I would've loved a level derby this year, both absolutely going for it. However as long as we keep sell funded, we won't get promoted for a very long time.
@@finchesrestcemetery8529appreciate that comment mate. Our club is a shambles. Sadly a mediocre championship club is all we can hope for, for the foreseeable. Credit where it’s due, you boys have got it right top to bottom after years of rubbish, and are now reaping the rewards. Sadly you’ll be winning promotion this season I think but fair play, just Please go easy on us on the 16th 😂😂 got a feeling it’s going to be a cricket score! Maybe come the end of the season in the return fixture we’ll have got our act together, but judging by these interviews that wont be the case!
Do we need a 12th man again ?
The problem is delia and her husband dont know anything about how to run a modern football club. She was a cook and he was a businessman outside football. And it shows. The way they came over here was so defensive, so poor, so naive in terms of PR. Not prepared to take any responsibility. Blames the fans. Evasive.
20 years ago it didn't matter as you could have amateurs. Neither have any experience or aptitude for running a modern club. It's a different world. Look at Ipswich. They have now got a specialist who can run a football clubs, they have owners who let the management team get on with it, and it's working.
what a mess
Jesus what is Delia on 🤦🤦 they not seeing the drivel we are seeing she must be unconscious when she go to the games 😂 we are a shambles
Just goes to show how clueless about Football some people are
Whingers? For wanting the best from the club?
That's it for me, definitely not renewing next season. The club is rotten from the top down.
But you will though, won’t you? The amount of people I’ve heard over the years saying the same thing year in, year out and yet they’re still there every season…
@@johnnyfreespeech5815 Nah man. I know people say it when they're pissed off but I'm chucking it. Cba funding this ridiculous circus anymore. I'll always love the club but this ownership is just completely wrong.
Delia and MWJ are utterly clueless and condescending. It’s time to go away. You can’t have this kind of disdain towards fans.
They are embarrassing
Ugh this is a depressing watch
People pay good money to watch the team,we our entitled to are opinions. It's drab to watch unfortunately worst Norwich team I've seen for many year's to many old player's, player's not good enough and a manager who is living on his stint at Huddersfield. Club needs a reset from top to bottom.
This club is becoming a joke just sliding towards league one
What a load of drivel.Delia is two sheets to the wind and her old man dare not say anything different!We'll be debt free in league 2 in a few years then if thats her ambition.
Sounds like Michael and Delia want to sack Wagner but Mark wants to keep him
But what ever they each think, the buck is very much being passed to Ben to make the final decision.
I’ve been a Norwich fan for over 30 years and I have no words for how much I can’t stand this woman. When you publicly say “20% are whingers” that’s your cue to leave. Glad the interviewer asked those questions, they absolutely hated it and really got on the defensive because they know they’ve massively fxxked up.
How can you be so disingenuous to your own fans calling them whingers, you must be so proud of your majority share holders 🫢