Atheists Misappropriate The Word Theist?
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- Does calling ourselves "atheist" appropriate the word "theist"
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"Why dont you call yourself secular" "Dude, my name is literally secular rarity"
“Hey king Kai did I make the kaioken myself?”
“My f*cking name is in it.”
Not Political = Apolitical
Not Symmetrical = Asymmetrical
Not Typical = Atypical
and so on
LOLZ
He has a point, though. Like atheism is the default state. Like we don't say, "I'm acriminal," to tell people we aren't criminals. But society isn't ready for that conversation about religion being a state of being outside of the default.
Not Pple = Apple
@@justinfriedman2039 The thing is a prefix isn't universal where you can just add it to all words. Take the example of the prefix "un-". You can add it to "clean" to make "unclean". But you can't add it to "run" to make "unrun". And "uncle" doesn't mean you added "un-" to "cle".
We don't say "i'm acriminal" because "acriminal" isn't a word. Otherwise, Nixon would have said, "I am acriminal."
@@quecee would you say that "acriminal" could be a word? Like a word existing is more of a choice. If enough people used acriminal then it could become something. For the record, I don't want it to be a word.
I would like to not call myself an atheist because God's not real but its simpler to say that I am for the sake of moving along. If religion didn't exist, atheism wouldn't exist (duh). I just want to be at a point where questions of your religion didn't exist.
At Pride parades, the smallest group is usually the asexuals.
The whole problem with this guy’s argument, which they should have said at the start, is that not all atheists are secularists.
And many theists are secularists as well.
I think you have that backward. I think (in the USA anyway) most secularists are theists, but I do not know any and cannot IMAGINE an atheist supporting religion in our government. I suspect that all atheists are secularists, but not all secularists are atheists.
Wait there are atheists who want to mix church and state?
Exactly!
That's a specific part of the problem. The _whole_ problem is that he's just a troll, and he calls in to make stupid, pointless arguments.
I see more problems with the word "inflammable" than with the word "atheist".
Undeistable?
Invalid: opposite of valid
Indisposed: not disposed
Inscrutable: not easily understood
Inflammable: extra flammable :)
@@shadowshedinja6124there was a reason for that. It's like the diferente between diasel and gasoline, one burns while the other explotes.
I haven't reflected on it long but I think distheist would be better than atheist. Because atheism is a disbelief.
Where is believing in God is belief. Or maybe anti-theist. Especially since atheistic governments AKA Communist governments are completely hostile to accepting God and practicing religion and this is where approximately 90% of the world's atheist come from atheism is hostile towards religion in nature. I mean just look at the show atheist experience.
@@benjaminmadrigalperez9010 Nah, both gasoline and diesel can explode and burn. Burning and exploding are the same thing with different speed (oxidation is too).
Mr. British when Forrest asks if he claimed to be a doctor, says no.
On a different show last week, Mr. British says, "I'm a doctor" to FORREST.
Wasn't that, Mr. Britain? 😮
@@stephenolan5539Actually, I didn't notice. Did he call as Mr. Britain? Not Mr. British, when he called the other show?
@@quecee
I"m actually going by another poster's comments but he did sound like he noticed it.
Listened to that a few days ago, guy sounded exactly the same and got hung up on the exact same question that started at the start of the video.
Believing oneself a doctor, like believing in God, is more an emotional disposition than a truth claim. Sometimes I drink too much coffee and feel like I'm the Eagles starting running back.
Better title: guy doesn’t believe adverbs exist.
Guy believes in invisible wizard. But not in adverbs.
Only Satan uses adverbs
What are adverbs
@@dodumichalcevski Here is a sentence.
You could quickly Google that yourself.
In this example, Google is being used as a verb. As in operate an online search engine.
The adverb is "quickly". It modifies the verb "to Google".
@@brucebaker810
Sorry
That was a joke 🤣
You can be a secularist & theist at the same time.
You can. There're many theists one the secularist movement.
“I don't think that word means what you think it means"
"Inconceivable!"
@@hopelessnerd6677So you're actually meaning to its conceveivable....
This statement can be applied to about 90% of the words said by apologists when defending/expressing their beliefs.
To quote Chris Tucker to Jackie Chan:
"Do you understand the words that are coming out of my mouth!?"
Mr British apparently has fallen through the cracks of the UK education system.
@drownoble That's a chasm not a crack.
Well, they are pretty wide
@@geekbaritoneStill not a wide as the cracks in the US education system
@@MrNeocortex Very true.
Or maybe we should stop glamorizing Europeans or brits. Just as many stupid people out there
I guess when Mr British said he was not a doctor, that makes him adoctoral.
You, Sir, just won the internet 🏆👏
"I just looked it up in the dictionary."
(A few moments later)
"I said I looked it up, that doesn't mean I have a dictionary."
another example of a theist talking at the hosts... and not listening just waiting to say something.
One Muslim guy claiming to be a doctor but knows little about medicine, called in from London by the name mr British.
Twenty minutes later another Muslim guy who sounds exactly the same calling in from London by the name mr British claims he’s not a doctor and a different person.
Something seems suspicious to me.
I don't even believe he's a Muslim.
He reminds me of that London evangelical who complained about the burden of proof
Theismless doesn't roll off the tongue too well.
Nor does theistless, dietyless (or would that be dietiless). Not sure what we should do with godless.
Neither does "athiest" 😉
@@SundaeExpress Lol. I was waiting for that. 🫣
Nobody wants to put "Sectsless" in their bio...
@@SundaeExpress well certainly not with the way Mr British pronounced theist as “thayist”
Still listening but is his argument basically "you said people shouldn't use trans in an offensive manner, so I think you shouldn't say atheist because it offends me" ?
Yep. He wanted to support the point made by a previous caller. It's as if this caller is the same as that other caller.
But Mr. British said he isn't. And he's a theist, so he absolutely was telling the truth.
I think that was his point, but he didn't say it in a way that makes sense, he should have said "You're/Ya'll are offended by the use of the English word "trans", and I'm offended by the word "atheist"" but nobody cares either way...
What I gathered was that he thought that the word 'theos' meant _his_ god instead of 'a(ny) god' and that he didn't like his god associated with something he disapproved of.
A kind of presupposition I guess: _"I only believe in one god, so when people talk about a god, it must be equivalent to my god and my god should not be tainted by association"_
The concept of no or other gods simply doesn't compute for him, so it is no wonder he can't follow the logic behind a word like 'atheist' ¯\_ (ツ) _/¯
A pity the hosts lately have shifted towards shutting callers down quickly instead of trying to find the root cause of the misunderstanding.
It isn't as interesting listening these days.
Interesting. I’ve had this exact same conversation on two other occasions, and both times, it was a Muslim who wanted to argue about the word “atheism”. They don’t seem to like the word exists.
That call was an absolute delight. Thanks, SR and Forrest! I laughed my ass off the whole time 🤣🤣🤣
Mr British must be a very good friend of The Never Ending Parody. They both falsely claim to be doctors.
You should have pointed out to this guy that there are "theists" who are "secularists", because the word "secularist" describes somebody who does not believe that religion should play a rule in the laws and government of a country.
The education system in the UK is much better than Mr British’s serial failures might suggest.
You are completely correct SR this concept is extremely simple problem is theists have willingly destroyed there ability to use rationale thought and regularly fail to understand basic concepts because of it
This guy seems very familiar... like he may have called in before... during the same show.
I'm getting an eerie sense of 10 minutes ago...
Throw in a bunch of those arguments uninterrupted and you’ve got a Gish gallop. I guess he had a Gish trot?
Mr British is unintelligent. And I agree with him here that using the word intelligent to describe Mr British is a misappropriation.
I'm a REAL British person, and these religious "morality" ideas this creature has are primitive and wrong.
Britain has stolen a great deal from Scotland, please don't take our Fallacy from us as well....
😉
Ok, so I just watched the call from “Trans Atheist” back to back with this one, and, as everyone already knows, it was 100% the same guy. Same voice, same mannerisms, same cadence, everything. Seriously, what is wrong with people like this that they feel the need to troll like this?
Likely a sociopath.
Man, the intro to this video was such a relief after that last one
On behalf of the entire Island of Britain, I apologise for harbouring this muppet.
Personally, I love how you guys handled Mr British. He's become a fixture on athiest call in shows.
I am 75 years old and never seen a single god anywhere my entire life. I have heard people tell stories about seeing or knowing a god but it sounds imaginary to me.
But have you looked everywhere in Madagascar? Hmmm?
Someone once insisted that I have a god regardless creature, but that turned out to be another lie in an unending series of lies.
There's no way he's in a relationship. No one would tolerate his behavior for long.
What if his partner is just as pedantic and insufferable.
Maybe it cancels each other out. 😂
Maybe he meant a relationship with God? Like "it's not a religion, it's relationship!!"
Idk! you'd be surprised what people are willing to tolerate.
If anything, Muslims and Christians can end up having an issue of appropriating the term. It's not a belief in "the God", it's belief of "a god or gods". It's honestly a really frustrating thing to encounter
There's a regular poster who does this. They get quite irate when told their god named God is a god.
@@nealjroberts4050it's the spiritual narcissism of monotheism. They're taught early on that they're the only true believers and everyone else are fakers
It's kind of like when they insist humans aren't apes. They can't give a practical definition for the category that excludes "God"
Mr. Britain called into the Sunday Show After Dark on a different channel called The Line on 05/05 and claimed to be a medical doctor. Forrest was also on that show, hosting alongside Paulogia. The title of the video in question says "Is your God worth believing in??" Now he calls in again and tries to gaslight Forrest and claims he never said he was a doctor (6:15). Anyone can go watch the video. He says it at about 1:04:45 in that video.
Does he not think that there might have been people who saw him on the other show?🤦♂️
@@quecee He obviously does not think.
This call was so hilarious and a bunch of fun!
Yes, very funny 😊
I guess that some theists are reduced to this kind of nonsensical variant of tone policing or strawmanning because they know they have no legitimate argument to make for their own position.
But I think thst they have to either be confused at a very basic level or actively trying not to understand, if they object to the term "atheism" on the grounds that it has APPROPRIATED something from theism.
That would be like trying to argue that the term "nonviolence" somehow dilutes the concept of violence. They may as well complain about English grammar. Antonyms are part of the language.
And atheism is not a belief but a response to theism. The process doesn't begin until someone initiates it by saying, "There is a god."
That person is a theist. Then someone else might respond, "Where? I don't know what you're talking about."
It's hardly an APPROPRIATION to respond to a claim by trying to make sense of it. And if no sense is to be found in the claim, the response is still not an appropriation.
Thank God for atheism 🙏
That’s just silly.
Logically inconsistent but definitely amusing😁👍
@@NoHateLikeChristianLoveas silly as (insert bible verse)
Ramen
@@Julian0101 🍜
You 2 are having too much fun in this one, love it! :)
Atheist: I'll give you a rational explanation for reality, but you would have to get on a live stream so that you can't dishonestly post your scripted spam from the safety of your keyboard.
"Christian" with a conviction for fraud: ... NO ATHEIST on the face of this earth can present a rational atheist explanation for reality.
Me: I'm literally on the face of the earth, my dude.🤦♂️
You got your atheist ideas kicked sideways by me for months. If you left any out, present them now, so I can slaughter them also w/ detailed facts.
ATHEISTS! YOU DO NOT FIT IN ANYWHERE! You’re content to be LOST & CLUELESS regarding reality in that you don’t know who put you here or why & you have no idea regarding your destiny. You’re going to waste the +/- 70 yrs God gave you to learn the facts and act on them. You’re not worth your weight in spit.
But Christians BELIEVE IN THE EVIDENCE that a creator placed them on earth for a reason: TO CHOOSE TO HAVE A FREE WILL LOVING RELATIONSHIP with THEIR CREATOR (God) FOREVER IN HEAVEN.
If any of the lost disagree, give me the facts that not only prove you do FIT and that you do KNOW where you come from and by what cause/source and also prove you're sure of your destiny. Otherwise, my IRREFUTABLE FACTS stand It's quite STUNNING that the lost are perfectly content to wallow in basically not knowing anything re true reality.
So, before I even look at the comments there'll be the usual strawmen by JimEdith and probably a John 3 16 reference by the bigot who accuses everyone of slander for reminding that they're a bigot?
Hehe, I've even got Joey trying to impersonate me 😂
@@nealjroberts4050That is crazy, what the hell?
@@arandomhashbrown3756
Yep 👍🏼
Secularism and atheism are not the same. You can be a secular humanist and be the pope. You can be a Christian and be in favor of secular governance. If the caller has just opened a dictionary or Wikipedia he'd realize that...but he probably does. Muslims in particular seem to hate that atheists can say hey, I'm an atheist. They'd rather debate secularism with the Quran as the basis of the discussion.
Imagine being afraid of prefixes.
Is an atom someone who doesn't believe in male cats? 🤔
Yes, Rick Lambot is that
Mr. "British" can't figure out the English language apparently.
It should be noted that everyone who looks up the meaning of atheism and secularism will immediately understand why they are not interchangeable.
There are Christian secularists, they are not atheists. I'd say any politician who isn't completely daft is a secularist regardless of their religious beliefs.
But not everyone that looks up the word will understand that usage came first, not the definitions.
@@stephenolan5539 If anyone thinks that usage came befor the definition or the other way around they are morons. All words are defined when they are first used.
honesty, apart from logic, is another rare commodity in the biblical universe.
All this song and dance because theists know for a fact they can’t demonstrate:
What this god IS
How did it “create” anything
Why did it create things the way it did
How did it come to exist
Why theirs is the true one vs others
Why it can’t show itself
Where it is
Why it relies only on humans for validation
Why it’s moral
Why it made humans
Why it’s so cruel, emotional, and violent
Why it allows/encourages human suffering
How any theist knows ANYTHING about their holy text is accurate to the god in it?
A lot tacitly admit this by completely deflecting or a scripted “well what about” excuse.
Evidence and demonstration are not the way to God. Stillness is the only way to God.
@@BobbyFristongonna be honest, never heard that one before, so I’m genuinely curious what you mean by “stillness.” Do you mean through meditation or something?
@@samk7400 Thought (or the moving mind) only moves by shuffling images, words and symbols. We often can't escape images, words and symbols. The infinite is when there are no images, words and symbols.
@@BobbyFriston
What do you mean by "stillness"?
I'm serious, English is not my first language.
Do you mean that we must be silent or calm or that we must literally stay in one place?
@@BobbyFristonhaha you literally just said, “I can’t demonstrate my god, and I don’t have any evidence for my god, but my god exists.”
Seriously you just did our work for us!
But why not describe yourself with the word I prefer for you??
Yall should just ignore Mr British’s calls. He’s completely disingenuous and just comes on to troll, he’s not actually interested or capable of having an adult conversation.
Using "a" as a prefix meaning without is how the english language works.
amoral - without morald
atheist - without a belief in god or any gods.
Tell him to look up words in the dictionary.
Bu-but meaning has the word mean in it, so you’re just being mean.
The thing is that if we apply the word Dickhead for Mr British, or Adickhead for Mr British, either works, even if prefixed with an "A"
@@DreadEnder
It is the cruelty of language.
There are a few different a- prefixes in English, actually!
I’m curious if Mr. British would say “amoral” or “moral-less”, and would that cause confusion with “more-or-less” in a conversation. It sounds like an Absolutely Fabulous “who’s on first” skit that includes a priest, a confessional, with their drinks & cigs….puurrfect!
It's getting a bit ridiculous. People complain about pronouns. And now this guy is complaining about prefixes.😠 Where will it stop? With complaints about punctuation at the end of sentences?
Question marks really grind my gears.
@@69eddieD You know what gets my goat? Those atheists and their idioms!
It’s the adverbs that make my blood pressure rise.
@@tonyclements1147 But HOW does your blood pressure rise? Rapidly? Tremendously? Bigly?
@@quecee😁
"Symptomless" IS in fact in the Oxford English Dictionary, Forrest.
Yes, it's a real word.
Does it have the same definition as asymptomatic?
Of course...
Warning #***** Special pleading ahead *******#
Forrest and SR are FABULOUS together. Love it!
These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
@@frompartsunknown687 you have no answers. you are just comfortable lying to yourself.
If you ask me how did the universe begin, I will tell you I don't know and be comfortable with that.
If I ask you, you tell me god did it. I ask you where this god comes from and you tell me it's always existed. You say "it caused time so logically it's timeless" and that of all things ever, it is the only one that has no cause, which is proof that it exists, even though there is no way you or I would have ever been aware of this concept had we never been told of it.
But you still don't know. You have a voice someone else put in your head that's more important to you than demonstrable reality may ever be.
But you still don't know.
Atheism, from the Greek a-theos, just means not-theism.
Mr. British may just be the new Amanuel. 😂
Oh sht you named him 😮
I think that's a bit cruel. Amanuel was at least honest in his discussions, he was a bit mad, but honest. Mr British is simply a liar and a dishonest asshole.
Not all secularists are atheists and not all atheists are secularists. One can believe in god and yet think that the policy of society should not be beholden to that god. Thus, you are a “secularist” even though you believe in god.
The opposite of “secularist” is “sectarian,” not “theist.”
If one were to try to come up with a word to describe something without irony, one might expect it to be “anironic,” but it would be unusual since most people would say, “without irony.” That said, there are lots of words that describe a thing and then tack on a negative prefix in order to indicate the opposite. For example, the opposite of “denominational” is not some other word that seeks to describe itself without referencing anything about denominations. No, the word is “nondenominational.” And note that a “nondenominational” service still thinks that god exists. That’s because the opposite of “denominational” isn’t “atheist.”
Mr. British is trying to pretend that linguistics is some sort of existential proof of reality. In reality, it’s more that you can describe the existence of a trait and you can describe the lack of existence of that trait, but describing something that lacks that trait without referencing that specific trait doesn’t really make any sense since the point of the utterance is to point out the lack of the trait. Something can have a “color” or it is “colorless.” What “colorless” means can vary. It might mean it’s white. It might mean it’s transparent. The point is not to describe it in its own terms but rather to point out that for everything that it is, it does *NOT* have that particular trait in question.
So yes, “atheism” necessarily requires there to be an understanding of “theism” for which we are noting the lack thereof. That doesn’t mean atheism is recognizing the validity of theism. Instead, it is noting the lack of theism.
Nobody is confused by this and Mr. British is simply trolling because he’s got nothing better to offer.
Mr British has said he was a doctor on multiple occasions.
Why does the caller care? It's just the way the English language is structured. We put an "A" before some words to negate or reverse the meaning. Like with "amoral," or "asymptomatic," "asexual," etc.
I love these guys 😍
Just a fun observation.
Have you ever noticed how an emoji at the end of a sentence can change the meaning of the entire sentence?🤔
For example.
I love these guys 😏
@@Viktor_Git I love these guys? 🍆
To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason, and whose philosophy consists in holding humanity in contempt, is like administering medicine to the dead, or endeavoring to convert an atheist by scripture.
Thomas Paine
If a theist falls in a Forrest can anyone hear it?
Golly now there's a guy who doesn't recognize double standards *while* he is holding them! Your patience is legendarily legendary.
Guess what's just popped up on my sidebar: 'Atheists vs Mr British CLASH! Is Morality Just an Illusion? (feat Forrest Valkai)', from 4 days ago on the Paulogia Live channel. This muppet gets around 😂
And on that one he's trying to disguise his voice with a lisp - and asks Forrest his name, like he doesn't know who he is, even though he calls him all the time 🤣
I'm a straight man and Forrest is still quite dishy so the caller's obsession is understandable 😂
He's on a mission from g0d!!
"What's in a name?" "That which we call a Rose, by any other would smell as sweet"
Lincoln asked, if you called a donkey's tail a leg how many legs would that donkey have?
The answer is four. Calling the tail a leg doesn't make it one.
I'll never know, why a rose can smell so sweet and pure and hold it's head up high whilst standing in manure
I don't care what Mr. British says he was the first caller, too.
I knew the conversation would be unproductive as soon as the caller said that homosexuality was immoral because he was a Muslim.
The worst troll caller ever! lol
But so entertaining to see him make an utter knobhead of himself, such a numpty.
Or the best. Depends on your meaning...lol.
Good god- I MEAN........ good Darwin that was painful. Dreadfully dishonest caller, but the hosts did a great job addressing the callers question, holding his feet to the fire and shredding his ignorant assertions.
All hail Sauron.
What do you expect? His answer to their first question told me all I needed to know about him. His opinion was automatically categorized as "Irrelevant" and "Belongs in the times his religion is from".
The point of the show is not to simply opine, but to attempt to JUSTIFY the opinion offered. A bare opinion is not very enlightening
Secularism and atheism do not mean the same thing. Why is it so hard to say that?
You two are fantastic together! 👏
An English lesson for Mr British. The root -theist means "belief in a god." The prefixes mono-, poly-, and a-, mean "one," "many," and "no," respectively. So a monotheist is someone who believes in a single god, a polytheist is someone who believes in many gods, and an atheist is someone who believes there is no god at all.
Sorry to nit-pick but theism is the belief, whilst a theist is the believer.
OTOH, if you said "I arrived atheist." The context suggests it's a different a- prefix, and that you were riding a theist. :p
@@DanielMWJ you're barking up the wrong woman
@@Gerryjournallol, just pointing out that a- is actually like 3 or 4 different prefixes that get all jumbled up in English, so you can't assume words starting with it mean that.
This video is apparently about pedantry, after all!
There's probably a joke in there somewhere too, but I can't dig it out. 🤷🏻
There are secularist theists,
This guy accuses us of appropriating "theist" to say "atheist" ONLY because he's personally offended. And has no idea how words work.
This guy’s argument is actually, “why are you using words that are found in the English language that correctly represent what you’re describing?” 🤦🏻♂️
Make sure to shut your windows and doors, because Forrest is on fire! 🌲🔥
Algorithmus preferentus!
I love how this translates!
Lol the conversation (if I can even call it that) at 12:15
"How else could one give that indication without reference to that very particular god that the first person say they believe in?"
"I've just checked the dictionary and it contains the word symptomless."
Fucking brilliant Mr British.
In terms of symptoms, I don't have any
In terms of god-beliefs, I don't have any
I don't understand why people keep feeding this obvious troll
Entertainment?
But this caller was selected specifically because they knew it was a previous caller coming back under a different name. And on the previous call, he ran away from the question of whether homosexuality was immoral.
And when he called back, he called himself a Muslim in order to say that homosexuality is immoral. He didn't HAVE to say, "AS a Muslim, homosexuality is immoral." He could have just said he thought it was immoral.
The same reason we feed monkeys at the zoo.
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One of my favourite lines from a movie is from Indiana Jones where Indiana says "Never bring a knife to a gun fight", your callers seem to always bring a pea shooter to the battle.
Great line but I believe it's from 'The Untouchables'.
There's a famous scene in the first Indiana Jones movie where he shoots a guy who's coming at him with a blade but he doesn't say anything when he shoots him.
@@SundaeExpressIsn't the Untouchables where the Sean Connery character says, "there can be only one"?
The theists who post here actually bring flaccid lettuce leaves to a slapping match.
@@holgerlubotzki3469 What's that old expression? "I would challenge you to a battle of wits, but I see you are unarmed."
Highlander
Best host pairing ever! Forrest and Secular Rarity are just superb 😊
STOP! These 2 hosts are fools (atheists) and their less-than-worthless, asinine, lost & clueless religious cult of atheism is INFAMOUS the world over for having ZERO ANSWERS. No atheist has a RATIONAL/POSSIBLE, step-by-step atheist explanation for reality. That's because there isn't one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
The fact remains that along w/ DYING/FINITE space/matter/energy, TIME had a cause. The logical conclusion (when we follow the evidence) is that such a cause is TIMELESS. And if you're TIMELESS, do you have a beginning or end? No. We call that cause "OUR INFINITE, SUPERNATURAL GOD," who by definition is TIMELESS, CHANGELESS, BEGINNINGLESS, SPACELESS, IMMATERIAL and ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL.
These topics are the most important topics known; thus, EVERYONE should have a vast understanding of the facts that frame the truth of these topics and not be so content to gulp down the false propaganda of channels such as this one. THESE GUYS ADMIT THAT THEY HAVE NO ANSWERS!!!
Been a fan of forest since I first saw reacteria, but never seen secular rarity I guess it is before. You 2 need to do more of these together I was cracking up.
It's not even remotely similar in terms of his comparison. Like, if he wanted to draw the comparison between "that guy uses trans in his username" vs "athiesm uses the word theism in it" he could have just tried instead of this irrelevant "appropriation" argument. On the one hand you have a religious content creator who is actively opposed to transfolk using the word trans as a username, this is coupled with the fact that transfolk are a minority that is actively oppressed and yea you have a slight conflict of interest.
On the other, it's just a literal word. Maybe if Forrest's username was JesusLover69420 you might actually have a point but the fact remains his comparison was just illogical, there is no real similarity beyond the superficial.
This guy’s an Aprefixist!
I love the energy of SR and Forrest here.
Playing around with definitions of words, that's all these theists do nowadays.
Well... I guess if you have failed to define your g0d into existing then the next best tactic is try to define the opposition out of existing.
Correction: “thayists.”
Mr Royal, British tosspot, you are an embarrassment to both the British education system and the British sense of humour
He's an embarrassment to all of humanity.
One of the funniest calls in a long time.
This call was wild!
Much like the people who whine about pronouns, Mr British is ignorant of basic kindergarten level grammar and has no idea what a prefix is.
First 💪
Conga rats!
Happy Firsties!
I read this title and was like what? I heard the conversation and was still like what? 😂
"Non-stamp collector" kept coming to my mind.
All British people aren't that thick.
In 2021 to 2022, 63.8% of adults aged 18 years and over in England were estimated to be overweight or living with obesity.
@@AXKfUN9m WTF are you talking about?. who said anything about weight?. I take it that English isn't your first language.
@@briancomley8210I think he's joking since everyone knows that British people aren't very thicc. Small butts.
@@briancomley8210 chill
@@quecee
As one of the few British people who has a butt, I can concur
An utterly ridiculous call. What was the point of it?
Sometimes there isn't a point, sometimes its just fun
Nice convo. This guy seems friendly.
One of the big reasons why the word "atheist" has to be used, is because "theist" became the default. It became abnormal to not believe in god, and was punishable in the past, and still in the present in some places.
"Well, I use the word symptomless." ... "Well, you're wrong."
Im Mr British and i gave a topic. Im not Trans Atheist. But i wanna focus on Trans Atheist's topic.
Never-mind
Bullshit, oops my bad, didn't catch the UN
Nice piss take 😄😄😄
@@joshsheridan9511 I love that you said it anyway. With the aha. 👍
@@sanjeevgig8918I don't think the OP was saying that he was literally Mr. British, if that's what you were thinking.