What is a Swiss Made watch and what are the requirements? - Watch and Learn #34

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  • In today's episode of Watch and Learn, we tackle the topic of Swiss Made. Two little words cause so much confusion. We will break it down and explain to you what these words mean, and why there is so much contention when it comes to using these words. It is important to note that the requirements are ever changing and evolving.
    We hope this video educates you some more about the Swiss Made label.
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Komentáře • 255

  • @mavredik
    @mavredik Před 7 lety +52

    Bravo! Great explanation. I've seen watch enthusiasts, watchmakers, watch bloggers, trying to explain what actually Swiss made means. Finally someone took the document and cites it. No theories no maybe this or that. Technical education...

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +5

      Thanks! Just giving the news, and explaining it a bit.

  • @shibainu6027
    @shibainu6027 Před 5 lety +18

    Your channel is the CZcams watch university! Thanks for sharing this.

    • @ericweis9771
      @ericweis9771 Před 4 lety

      Yes a very educational channel about Watches!

  • @me-cq7wv
    @me-cq7wv Před rokem

    So refreshing to see a watch channel that gives good education.

  • @cappy2282
    @cappy2282 Před rokem +2

    Great explanation by a man who clearly knows (and respects) the ⌚ game 🙏

  • @Medalavi
    @Medalavi Před 5 lety +17

    That’s why I like Orient Watch, every little pieces is made in house in Japan by Orient.

    • @ruez2kill
      @ruez2kill Před 3 lety +1

      Not the case anymore, unfortunately

  • @marekmkm744
    @marekmkm744 Před rokem +1

    Good point about the cost included in calculation. I've heard, some companies are going around with it by manufacturing most of the watch in countries when labour is cheap, and putting things together in switzerland, where labour is expensive. This way we've got a watch made in far east usually, with a cost of 40 $ and a few bits and pieces made in switzerland with cost of 60 $. This makes the watch " swiss made".

  • @CurbSlayers
    @CurbSlayers Před 7 lety +2

    The whole "Swiss Made" thing has become almost meaningless (as Marc points out). It's another example (along with pricing, marketing, sales channel, etc.) of how the Swiss watchmaking industry has shot itself in the foot over the years. Seems like the easiest way to solve the problem, and bring some real prominence back to the "Swiss Made" label, would be to follow the "Made In The USA" example. Basically require that 100% of the piece be manufactured and assembled in Switzerland. As a consumer of entry level and mid-grade time pieces, I don't care if "Swiss Made" is printed on the dial since I know it's a watch that simply meets the bare minimum requirements. Anyway, thanks for another clear and concise video Marc. Keep 'em coming!

  • @AkiraTano
    @AkiraTano Před 7 lety +12

    Great video Marc. Probably the most informative Watch and Learn I have watched (and learned). Thanks for this.

  • @chrissullins3
    @chrissullins3 Před 7 lety +15

    It would seem a significant part of the movement could be manufactured in a country like China (on the original manufacturer's CNC machines) and then just assembled in Switzerland (maybe with a Swiss wheel or two, some Swiss springs and jewels which would easily give that 60% of total value based on currency exchange rates alone) and the movement is still considered "Swiss". Assemble that 60% Swiss movement in a Chinese case with a Chinese crystal, a Chinese case back, a Chinese band, and have a quick QC at a warehouse in Switzerland and it's anointed a "Swiss Made" watch. By comparison a "Made in USA" watch would need to be very near 100% from movement to band in the USA. You mentioned the Detroit company which didn't make the standard and that is correct. There is a California company (begins with a G) that gets close to Made in USA with their movement and case (and probably do it at a higher amount than the Swiss 60%), but the best they can do is label it as "Hand Built in America". Looks like the Made in USA or Hand Built in America might still be more honest than the Swiss Made label.

  • @timemachineeddie1146
    @timemachineeddie1146 Před 7 lety +2

    The quality of most mechanical watches today is amazing. It seems to me that the Swiss needs to up their game a little. In the 70's you could buy an eta Movement for 29 dollars New. Made 100 percent in Switzerland parts and labor. Today 60 percent. I would like to see the Swiss watch's with their designation "Swiss Made or Made in Switzerland" 100 percent Swiss parts and labor. American made! 100 percent parts and labor, Japanese made! 100 percent parts and labor and German made! 100 percent parts and labor. After all most of the watch collectors, enthusiasts are quite anul about their watches weather from Invicta to Patek they love their watches.Mark a Great Video and thanks for making the watch world a better place.

  • @jhelwig19781
    @jhelwig19781 Před 6 lety +3

    These videos complement TGV's and Federico's videos so well Marc.

  • @BarnOwl61
    @BarnOwl61 Před 7 lety +6

    I do like Switzerland and the people there. I'am from Europe and been there a lot of times. But, for me a Swiss watch means i can't afford them. I am perfectly happy with my Seiko and Casio Edifice watches. For me and my budget the are perfect. I have a lot of respect for the Japanese brands.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      Thank you.

    • @greghemlock6679
      @greghemlock6679 Před 5 lety

      I want an edifice so bad. Cant justify it but going to get one anyway.

    • @casteltheghettomonk4392
      @casteltheghettomonk4392 Před 7 měsíci

      Ever heard of swiss military hanowa !? And festina ? Most of them labelled as swiss made

    • @BarnOwl61
      @BarnOwl61 Před 7 měsíci

      @@casteltheghettomonk4392 I have, just like Victorinox.

  • @EddyWoon
    @EddyWoon Před 7 lety +2

    Thanks for sharing the great info. I looked this up when I bought my Luminox 15 years ago and it had "Swiss made" label on the dial and was curious as to how Swiss is its Swissness.

  • @ednammansfield8553
    @ednammansfield8553 Před 7 lety +1

    Thank you Marc for this informative video on Swiss watches. Keep up the good work, I find all of your watch and learn videos are very good and I have learnt a lot from them.

  • @zzyzxzee6374
    @zzyzxzee6374 Před 6 lety +1

    Learned a lot about watches from your channel, thanks marc...

  • @combatseawolf
    @combatseawolf Před 4 lety +1

    Is an automatic Tissot a good entry into the Swiss Made territory?

  • @nikcybulskis7585
    @nikcybulskis7585 Před 7 lety +2

    Great vid man. I'd like to see a rundown on Made in Japan pieces, especially with different variants of given watches available.

  • @bighueso2428
    @bighueso2428 Před 5 lety +2

    What does Geneve on a watch mean? Do you have a video on that??

    • @GE-cb4do
      @GE-cb4do Před 4 lety

      its the french name of the city of Geneva in switzerland

  • @getoffmylawn8986
    @getoffmylawn8986 Před 7 lety +1

    Superb, Marc. I get so much more out of these than the usual watch comparison videos Although I watch and enjoy both, (and learn from both), I really take away a lot of great information from these more in-depth, esoteric type W&L. Thanks!

  • @TheOneInYellow
    @TheOneInYellow Před 7 lety

    Thank you for this video.
    You explained elegantly and simply what Swiss Made means.
    This has increased my appreciation for my very first luxury horological timepiece, which is also my first automatic watch: Tudor North Flag (Bracelet Ref: M91210N-0001, and purchased leather strap from Ref: M91210N-0002 as well).
    😄👍⌚

  • @jimitwagh841
    @jimitwagh841 Před 7 lety +6

    Best video marc. Most informative. Can we have similar video on what makes a watch a " luxury watch"

  • @johnbarclay6270
    @johnbarclay6270 Před 7 lety

    Thanks Marc, awesome watch and learn. Really appreciate your candour in these videos.

  • @jigslim27
    @jigslim27 Před 7 lety +3

    Any comments on Swatch and Steinhart which both have Swiss Made markings on the dial. Thanks

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +2

      Not really; I can only tell you what it is supposed to mean.

    • @greghemlock6679
      @greghemlock6679 Před 5 lety +1

      Steinhart is a German company who's factory is in Switzerland,the movements are ETA swiss made,some of the housings are outsourced some from China. Final assembly is in Switzerland.
      Qc is german/swiss. Parts are 90 percent or more German except movements which are 100% swiss.
      A great bargain non pretentious non snob brand that is destined to increase in price over the years as the brand gets more notice
      Swatch owns ETA need I say more

  • @bubbab7792
    @bubbab7792 Před 7 lety +2

    Good job Marc, very informative and educational. All comes down to making sure the money is being distributed correctly. Cornering the market? How many brands does the SWATCH Group have? Thank you for the info.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      Many! And not just brands of watches, but companies that make parts. Their website has them all.

  • @donp2166
    @donp2166 Před 6 lety

    Great video. It's all about protecting revenue. Same in many other industries. Look into Parmigiano Reggiano cheese. Like a swiss watch, fakes all over the place, and legal definitions (and lawyers) abound. Keep up these watch & learns!

  • @aramkrikorian9460
    @aramkrikorian9460 Před 7 lety +3

    I'd like to see a W&L that describes the basic qualities of a mechanical watch that establishes what high quality features are and then compare them based on countries. I'd be curious what it is that makes a "Swiss" watch versus a "Japan" watch better or not. What is it beyond the "name" or country designation that makes a watch mechanically desirable.

  • @theharpsichordofmozart4258

    Great informative video.
    Question: Are Optima watches Swiss made? It says Swiss made on the dial but are they really?

  • @manoman0
    @manoman0 Před 6 lety +9

    It's so common to disguise things nowadays.

  • @07szn
    @07szn Před 7 lety

    Excellent review Marc. So, make it so simple...! really enjoyed it.

  • @paulbrady8107
    @paulbrady8107 Před 7 lety

    Thanks Marc,great lesson and very informative. 👍 on a fun note you could become the human Google of the watch world .with you're knowledge.👍

  • @yourdata2478
    @yourdata2478 Před 7 lety

    Thanks for the clarity of ,and on the information, people didn't believe me on this . l see a huge German watch industry growing very fast, thanks Mark by 2020 it will be 80% of the watch must be made in Switzerland. 👏👏👍😎

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      It is trending that way for sure.

    • @josephj6521
      @josephj6521 Před 4 lety

      your data24 yeah, unfortunately some German brands put Myota movements in their watches. 🙄 As for A. Lange & Sohne, well, they’re an exception and I think have the most beautiful watches in the world! For 99.9% of us, they’re unattainable.

  • @hendimam525
    @hendimam525 Před 7 lety +1

    Another great video

  • @joelocascio
    @joelocascio Před 4 lety

    Great video. Thanks! Learned a few new things today!

  • @indaleciomendez8442
    @indaleciomendez8442 Před 7 lety

    Awesome video Marc, I've learned so much from your videos, I learned how to use a divers bezel from one of your episode, btw I get lots of components on my Traser love that watch. Thank you for teaching me so much about horology.

  • @jfrschnell
    @jfrschnell Před 7 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing the knowledge. I heard they updated their regulations on Swiss Made recently. I understand Swiss want to protect the origin of the product. Totally agree. At the end of the day is more of marketing, and perhaps prestige, than anything else. As for me good timepiece, good music, everything artistry if good has no boundaries.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +1

      Yes, and they will continue to update it and make it tighter and tighter.

  • @aaronwalakay
    @aaronwalakay Před 5 lety +1

    I know Tissot is Swiss made but does it have Swiss movement?

  • @andreawheatley5528
    @andreawheatley5528 Před 2 lety

    Do you know anything about a vintage ladies watch, that says Sylvette, Swiss Made, Anti magnetic with the numbers 10184 on the back? The Swiss made is on the front, by the 6, and on the back? I can't find anything on it

  • @andrewoffer7369
    @andrewoffer7369 Před 7 lety

    thanks for the detailed explanation as always very interesting and informative cheers

  • @abel2cycle989
    @abel2cycle989 Před 3 lety

    Great video

  • @titoalpaca4487
    @titoalpaca4487 Před 6 lety +1

    Does the swiss made legend in the front makes the watch expensive?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 6 lety +1

      It means expensive labor went into it.

  • @ani625
    @ani625 Před 6 lety +2

    Great video Mark. Japanese watches ftw!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 6 lety

      Thank you!

    • @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo
      @MiguelGarcia-vj7oo Před 6 lety +2

      ani625 a lot of japanese watch parts are also made in China, Malaysia, etc.....with the exception of GS I believe........

  • @gregcushing1716
    @gregcushing1716 Před 5 lety +1

    That company in Detroit does not know sh-t from shienola. Very nicely researched video thanks !

  • @MrSloika
    @MrSloika Před 3 lety

    So I ordered a watch case, dial, hands and ETA 2824 movement from an eBay seller in Switzerland. All the stuff was made in Switzerland. I assembled the watch myself here in US Murica....I live in New Jersey. Will I be required to grind off all the 'Swiss Made' makings and replace it with 'Wiseguy Made'?

  • @billspruce8368
    @billspruce8368 Před 7 lety +1

    I appreciate your videos Marc and I am trying to get to all of them! I love my Oris and Ball watches... but I am curious: What is a standard or common manufacturing practice that "just" meets the requirement? I am guessing the parts are stamped in Asia, maybe even partially assembled and then shipped to Switzerland to complete just enough of the process to meet the requirement?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +2

      For example, a case needs to have one major manufacturing process in Switzerland to be called Swiss made. So you could cast it in Greenland (why say China!) and then polish it in Switzerland, and it is likely "Swiss".

  • @Robert.Dickson
    @Robert.Dickson Před 7 lety

    Another insightful video once again. Thanks

  • @triples4good
    @triples4good Před 7 lety +1

    Another very great video. Very enlightening. If I'm understanding you, if a watch says Swiss in the case back the case has to be made in Switzerland? There is a certain watch manufacturer that makes watches that say made in Switzerland in the dial and the caseback. Would that mean that the case is made there? This particular company makes really nice dive watches but receives a lot of hate because certain people say they are made in China. Thanks in advance.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +1

      From reading the document, that is how it appears.

    • @triples4good
      @triples4good Před 7 lety

      Thanks Marc. That's good. Then all the naysayers on this watchmaker are just talking.

  • @everything1023
    @everything1023 Před 3 lety

    There should be a similar label for calling movements in house because I’ve seen a lot of slightly modified eta movements be called in house lately.

  • @mohnnadmercedes8246
    @mohnnadmercedes8246 Před 7 lety +1

    Marc! Dose this will raised the price of the final product next years????! Because already climbing and the price of mid range swiss watches become like high end ones ?? I hope am wrong

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +1

      As they get more "Swiss", they will get more expensive.

    • @mohnnadmercedes8246
      @mohnnadmercedes8246 Před 7 lety

      Long Island Watch oooh, sad to hear that especially am planning for long term goals 😭and as you are expert in this field can you predict how much the price will rise ??

  • @robertofuentes9759
    @robertofuentes9759 Před 7 lety

    Thanks Marc. Schooled again. Would love to see a video about ETA. Being that they are the juggernaut of the industry. I'm sure they hold a controlling interest in a wide area of the watch world...
    Would love to be enlightened.

  • @mofakah5906
    @mofakah5906 Před 7 lety

    Good video man, many watch channels don't cover this.

    • @mofakah5906
      @mofakah5906 Před 7 lety +1

      Btw, you should do another video about "made in Japan" watches

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      Thank you. I will consider it.

  • @jazzman5598
    @jazzman5598 Před 3 lety

    Great vid. Thanks Marc!

  • @wasilqayyum
    @wasilqayyum Před 4 lety

    Great explanation!

  • @captain6939
    @captain6939 Před 7 lety +2

    Hey Marc, what do you think about Tissot watches?

  • @dfcdm.v1
    @dfcdm.v1 Před 3 lety

    Can you say something about Swiss Military Hanowa?! They say that are registred on swiss confederation... I'm almost purchesing the worldtimer (ronda movement gmt).

  • @johncunningham5435
    @johncunningham5435 Před 3 lety

    Good information; "thanks Mark".

  • @vincentmcmanus8208
    @vincentmcmanus8208 Před 7 lety

    Great job as usual Mark! By the way, I love my new Junkers auto it's absolutely beautiful.

  • @AhmedHussain-mz1ks
    @AhmedHussain-mz1ks Před 7 lety +1

    Great video Marc!

  • @gahloot
    @gahloot Před 4 lety

    Any chance you could talk about the Ritmo Mundo Swiss Made IndyCar Seies chronograph I own. I love it, and it's about 5 years old now.But no one ever talks about these watches. I think it would for around $1500.00 when it was new. I just have so little info. I'm a begginer in horology.

  • @dhannylil2191
    @dhannylil2191 Před 5 lety

    my rolex just got swiss instead of swiss made..whats the difference? thx

  • @armandojuan64
    @armandojuan64 Před 6 lety

    Your reviews are awesome .

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 6 lety

      Thanks.

    • @armandojuan64
      @armandojuan64 Před 6 lety

      You are welcome . It is so refreshing to listen to a mechanical engineer talk about watches .

  • @TheWatchConcierge
    @TheWatchConcierge Před 3 lety

    Does the watch have to be assembled in Switzerland? I know the movement and final inspection does. But can you have the watch assembled and put together in another country then sent in for final inspection in Switzerland?

    • @Padgriffin
      @Padgriffin Před 2 lety

      Not possible to my knowledge. The casing has to performed in Switzerland.

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 Před 2 lety

    I'd like to know what the requirements for French made is it seems like they have none .

  • @antonchigurh4829
    @antonchigurh4829 Před 5 lety

    Always informative,and simple,Thanks.

  • @ScottieG59
    @ScottieG59 Před 3 lety +1

    How about Swiss Maid?

  • @gtoexpress8111
    @gtoexpress8111 Před 2 lety

    Nice video

  • @WalterDavidRiffmon
    @WalterDavidRiffmon Před 7 lety +1

    So I can assume a Swiss Made watch will become more expensive as the percentage of direct Swiss involvement increases. Made in Japan and Made in Germany is a much looser term and allows for more affordable prices. This will push Swiss Made watches more to the top of the price brackets. I wonder how companies like Hamilton and Tissot will come out in all this.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +1

      Indeed. It is a very interesting problem. That pedigree so many want to achieve will just become more valuable.

  • @markt9332
    @markt9332 Před 5 lety

    How about mathey tissot watches. Swiss made. Any good?

  • @nistar40
    @nistar40 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for info. !!!

  • @ECgod77
    @ECgod77 Před 6 lety +1

    To add even more confusion: I have chronograph that says "Swiss parts" but with "China movement." From what I can tell, it's Swiss quartz but assembled in China.

  • @robhann99
    @robhann99 Před 7 lety

    Great video. Thanks.

  • @blindriv3r
    @blindriv3r Před 5 lety +4

    "Swissness" lol, yeah reminds me of 'Truthiness' meaning of course, not exactly true at all, but sounding close enough

  • @EARL1995LFC
    @EARL1995LFC Před 7 lety

    Great video, thank you

  • @ForbinColossus
    @ForbinColossus Před 7 lety

    This 'is reported as true Journalism should be! Future Video Suggestion: You like blue, I like blue, many do. How about a video comparing different shades of blue? For example, the blues of Squale aquamarine blue vs the Seiko pepsi blue vs the blue dial of the Orient mako , (which for some reason I can't warm up to), etc. With your archives, you could do a helluva smorgasbord of blues laid out across a table.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      Did you see my video on blue faced watches?

  • @bobbyjocowpoke1057
    @bobbyjocowpoke1057 Před 6 lety +5

    Rolex and other high end watches used to have “ T Swiss T “ at 6 o’ clock years back.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 6 lety +10

      That was due to exposed Tritium based paint.

  • @jonathanchamblee7863
    @jonathanchamblee7863 Před 6 lety +2

    So I'm looking at victorinox ,are they really Swiss?

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 6 lety +2

      If it says so on the dial . . .

    • @luiscastro5456
      @luiscastro5456 Před 6 lety +1

      what about Wenger watches, are they really swiss made and how come they are cheap.

    • @jesussaquin6266
      @jesussaquin6266 Před 5 lety

      @@luiscastro5456 ik they have some automatics but they're rare

  • @gmlasam
    @gmlasam Před 7 lety +2

    Great video. So Steinhart watches are made in Germany but all their watches say Swiss Made. So they are in violation?

    • @MichaelGisiger
      @MichaelGisiger Před 7 lety

      No, at least for now. They assemble the watches in Switzerland. But since Mr Steinhart designs all the watches himself (so they say), he has either to move to Switzerland (R&D) or find another solution.

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      True. But Made in Germany also has a different connotation than Swiss Made, different requirements too.

    • @hentaipawn4175
      @hentaipawn4175 Před 7 lety +2

      gmlasam Yes steinhart violates it very well, i know the factory in asia where they produce their bracelets, bezels, dials, cases, and crowns, and casebacks. only thing swiss about them is the elabore eta mvmt.

    • @zzyzxzee6374
      @zzyzxzee6374 Před 6 lety

      hentai Pawn you must really dislike steinhart, you mention them in a lot of replys

  • @williamparker2922
    @williamparker2922 Před 6 lety +1

    Informative

  • @aldoalcazar6525
    @aldoalcazar6525 Před 6 lety

    I admire you so much man

  • @harrypupal1706
    @harrypupal1706 Před 5 lety

    Great video love it

  • @dane5896
    @dane5896 Před 7 lety +13

    It should be 100% if it says "Swiss Made"! I just saw a video about a Seiko cocktail that stopped working and Chinese parts were found in the watch. I expected more from Seiko. :(

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety +5

      At least there are established rules for it.

    • @howardmaryon-davis666
      @howardmaryon-davis666 Před 6 lety

      Dan E unfortunately there are now chinese made fake seiko watches.

    • @zzyzxzee6374
      @zzyzxzee6374 Před 6 lety

      Howard Maryon-Davis maybe the americans could fake seagull 1963s;)

  • @michaelmallal9101
    @michaelmallal9101 Před 3 lety

    My Invicta 'Master of the Oceans' says Swiss Made on face and back.

  • @binkymagnus
    @binkymagnus Před 7 lety +2

    Why is the country of origin always in English? I have several Swiss and German pieces and I think it would be cool to have that in French or German. Personally, I don't care about "Swiss made," for example I think there are brands made in Germany that are fantastic (Junghans, Nomos, Sinn), and I always thought it was weird that Panerai, which is as Italian as spaghetti in my mind, goes for the "Swiss Made" mark.
    Good vid, thanks for the info!

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      The Breitling I showed has it not in English on the caseback.

    • @luiscastro5456
      @luiscastro5456 Před 6 lety +1

      because english is the "international language" ?

  • @JoseRojas-yw1nl
    @JoseRojas-yw1nl Před 6 lety

    My Movado series 800 chronograph says Swiss Made. What’s your opinion? Thanks

    • @cdvax11
      @cdvax11 Před 5 lety

      Movado 800s are Swiss Made. Although they have a quartz movement, it is a Swiss-made quartz movement. But many of the minimalist ones people love so much are not, they have a swiss quartz movement so they are marked only as "Swiss Movement." Movado now makes such lower prestige fashion watch brands as Coach, Hugo Boss, Lacoste, Tommy Hilfiger, Scuderia Ferrari, MVMT, and Rebecca Minkoff.

  • @samadrid6321
    @samadrid6321 Před 7 lety

    This is why I have two Rolex both classic from 2002 and 2010, so I know they are truly Swiss. The third watch I have is an Omega SpeedMaster from 2002. I really like the Speedy, but I know the parts are not hundred percent Swiss. It's ok I really like the Omega. Problem with the sixty percent value Swiss is the labor costs in China a very, very low. Most of the parts can be Chinese they will have relatively low value, and the labor costs in Switzerland are so much higher the sixty percent value can be easily attained despite ninety percent of the physical watch is Chinese.

  • @CoolCforlife
    @CoolCforlife Před 7 lety

    Great video. I definitely think they should make it stricter to say "SWISS MADE". IMO Should be 100% made in Switzerland to say that really.. otherwise say things as you mentioned, like "swiss movements". Hot topic here! :)

  • @Sams911
    @Sams911 Před 6 lety

    haha... glad you said what you said at 3:28 ... for a minute I I thought you were saying a Grand Seiko was a finer watch than a Patek Philippe.. Another great nation for watch making btw, is Germany..

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 6 lety +1

      Thanks for checking out the channel.

  • @mmma4096
    @mmma4096 Před 5 lety +1

    So this means that many Swiss Made watches are not 100% Swiss watches, like Steinhart, is assembly in Germany with Swiss mov. I like to know if MIDO is Made in Switzerland or other place? I believe they do that to increase the price and treat many people as a fools, buy Swiss and received a Chinese watch with Swiss Made requirements.

    • @greghemlock6679
      @greghemlock6679 Před 5 lety

      That's what the internet is for, educate yourself and only buy from reputable dealers

  • @robinj.9329
    @robinj.9329 Před 4 lety

    I have a quartz watch that reads movement made in Switzerland.
    I had no idea they made any quartz at all!

    • @yehoshuacirt8645
      @yehoshuacirt8645 Před 4 lety

      ETA is a tremendous Swiss company that also makes quartz movements.

  • @chris7015
    @chris7015 Před 5 lety +1

    But what about Invicta? ;)

  • @HerrGabbe
    @HerrGabbe Před 7 lety

    On my Tudor North Flag it says "Geneve" at 12. Could you please explain that?

    • @MichaelGisiger
      @MichaelGisiger Před 7 lety

      That's because Tudor's headquarters are in Geneva. The use of city names is not regulated. Actually, other brands do/did that, too. There are Omegas marked Omege Geneve f.ex.

    • @nickg2954
      @nickg2954 Před 7 lety

      Gabriel Norberg How do u like the North flag?Had my eye on it for awhile still not sure of I should pull the trigger

    • @islandwatch
      @islandwatch  Před 7 lety

      Just another marking on the dial; not a trademark.

  • @operasinger2126
    @operasinger2126 Před 5 lety +2

    Too complicated. lol. I will just think "Earth made" from now on and pray what I buy last a few good years. Thanks for the videos.

  • @johnsamu
    @johnsamu Před 6 lety +20

    So my 7 dollar "Swiss made" chinese watch isn't genuinly swiss?? How disappointing and unexpected ;-)

  • @robertwoods4281
    @robertwoods4281 Před 5 lety

    Mark, what is going on with Squale's and u. Will u be selling them? I saw a video giving your name and Squale but the sight would not come up. Help!!!!

  • @ssjTeXas
    @ssjTeXas Před 7 lety

    What's your opinion on Swiss quartz?

  • @DarkvirusXI
    @DarkvirusXI Před 7 lety

    Great vid Marc, very informative and interesting, keep it going!

  • @jonathanlloyd2306
    @jonathanlloyd2306 Před 6 lety

    Bone of contention !

  • @roygardiner2229
    @roygardiner2229 Před 6 lety

    Thank you, Marc.
    I have seen some watches with the single word SWISS on the dial. I assume from what you stated in the video, and from the attached link, that such watches did comply with relevant regulations that applied at the time of their manufacture.
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_made

  • @lawrencev.athill7502
    @lawrencev.athill7502 Před 3 lety

    Back in the 70's, one of my Professors had a watch that was denoted with SWISS, told me that it was 100% made in Switzerland. I have yet to see another watch like that. Is that a true fact to your knowledge?

  • @TheodoreAndor
    @TheodoreAndor Před 3 lety

    In China there are small industrial towns called Germany

  • @encinobalboa
    @encinobalboa Před 5 lety

    The rules changes seem to be targeting Invicta.