I made myself a wdt tool this week after putting up with using a single needle for a while. Same coffee, same ratio but a lot better favour. Couldn't believe the difference, multiple shots later and it wasn't a fluke.
@@ramirendall8665 0.4mm 3d printer needles into a cork, I only used 5 needles, one in the middle and the others at equal points from the middle in a square. I have a flair machine with a smaller portafilter so didn't need to make a larger one.
As a coffee lover, I was going to make a coffee tamper on my metal lathe. However before this, I found this ‘Normcore’ tamper and bought it. It comes various sizes to match the portafilter of your machine. It is better than I could have made, and comes with 3 spring settings which can be changed via a supplied Allen key and relevant springs and some mechanical aptitude. This is a very good piece of equipment.
Love my jkim business card WDT. One thing you can do with his is remove the bottom spread disc, and use the 9 needle in a straight down configuration. Doesn't whisk as well if doing full wdt, but rakes easier if just doing the top. Also, a lot of makers sell a stand for their wdt, but I would skip that and just use a small cup with rice to help keep it clean.
@@Sprometheus Probably doesn't make that much of a difference since it's a minute amount of fines. Also, wdt is also double duty to scrape clean a dosing funnel if you are using one. Again, it's mostly fines coming off, but it's satisfying to do. :)
I've been using a DIY WDT (cork with 010-size guitar string) and the happy tamper, and have total peace of mind over the puck prep process now. I also use a puck screen as my main driver is the Flair 58. Great shots even if the grind size is off!
Haha it can be, I don’t get too aggressive with it so I’m able to keep it pretty locked in. I do have a funnel, but it doesn’t look at good on video haha.
@therealsprometheus I’d personally add an espresso funnel to (my) list. While this doesn’t really necessarily impact flavor, it totally improves my workflow, and countertop. Once I started using one, I’ve never gone back.
A funnel was on my original list, but that was with a hopper based grinder, since it seems many (myself included) have switched to a single doser with a cup it just doesn’t seem necessary.
@@Sprometheus ah. I use it with both my hand grinders (when using my Picopresso, which nicely comes with one), as well as when I use my Modded-single-dosed Sette 270. I still find useful when even single-dosing. But, that’s just me.
@@Sprometheus I use a cup with my mazzer Luigi, it makes the workflow so much better: just put the cup on that scale to check, and next to no ground coffee on the counter top
@@MrMarki134 Yeah I'm with you. It's probably not for everyone and I can see that Spro doesn't but I too place my funnel on after I transfer from the dosing cup to make WDT easier. Let's me be much more aggressive that Spro in my WDT.
Bit the bullet and bought a WDT a month ago to replace the paper clip I was using and the difference is night and day. It's kind of funny that I was holding out on spending $30 on a WDT tool when I had no problem spending like $120 on multiple slow pour supply pitchers LMAO
Haha I feel that same way on just normal everyday stuff. I needed to buy socks and was like, I’m not spending $20 on a pair of socks, and then I’ll turn around and spend way more on random coffee toys
@@Andrew-wp1bz I saw that from Lance's video but I don't have access to a 3D printer and also wanted a stand for it, so I just bought it from a random Etsy account
Spending more money definitely gets a better product. JKIM is actually shipping them for $1 (or was at least). I think he got flooded with orders and upped the price a bit.
@@Andrew-wp1bz His retired father took over his operations, who is on Etsy. The price is upped, but out of stock from time to time, but don't mind supporting the creator and his father. Not allowed to post link, sorry.
@@michaelcibula9552 thought I answered this but it had an Amazon link so maybe it got spam filter? But basically it’s got a spring that applies like 30lbs of force or something
Hmmm I've been using a leveler and weighted tamper and thought this would give good consistency. I can see how a WDT would help but why would moving to standard tamper? Do you mean it gives you more control?
Awesome video, like always! I have a question concerning the WDT, have you measured the tds with a refractrometer, when pulling a shot with/without WDT and if, how was the difference?
I have to say, coffee stuff in general tends to be a bit expensive, but WDT tools have taken this to a whole new level. It's quite literally some thin aluminium strips on a plastic cork and they are charging up to 50 bucks for this. You can get a good grinder (c2) for 50 bucks. These WDT prices are borderline insulting. Just HOW much juice do they want to squeeze out of every customer for every new thing that comes up? For 50 bucks it better have an autospin function with a chip and usb charger. Otherwise, 30 cents worth of needles on 50 cents worth of plastic and either 1 second of machining or 5 mins of manual work does not cost that much.
In some cases I will agree with you, but I’ll raise you two points. For one, hobbies are expensive. As someone who grew up into Airsoft, cars, and now coffee it’s just par for the course that you’ll be buying expensive toys. But no one is forcing anyone to buy them, and if no one did they likely wouldn’t be around. And second for a lot of us we spend a ton of time creating an aesthetic, a specific design for our coffee bars and paying a premium for a tool that fits isn’t a huge stretch. As a bonus I will say the Sworks WDT I have comes with two needle widths and the ability to play around with layout, which for me customization like that is also worth a little more. But in the end to each their own. I used a single acupuncture needle for awhile before upgrading and have no regrets.
You really don't need to pay to much for a wdt, just get the people's wdt 3d printed and get the 0.35 mm needles and that'll cost max $15. I just got a new wdt with a stand from a guy from reddit and it cost me only £10. So be patient asses your options and I'm sure you'll find something for a good price
@@Sprometheus I agree with most of what you said. Some people might think that me having a 200 dollars hand grinder is crazy, but it has brought me great enjoyment. Although the main thing about is that I can see where the money went... I can't say the same for the WDT tools I have seen so far. 30-50+ bucks for something so simple and fragile looking, and honestly, non precise... I doubt these things are like precision baskets with perfectly aligned holes with minimum differences that only a microscope can barely see... I have a feeling that it's just a matter of time until we see in amazon 5-10 dollar options that work as well as any other and these established brands are charging high bucks cause they know the specialty coffee community in large can afford it and they 'got there first'. They will squeeze as much as they can until competition gets there and then whoops, we might see some large price drops. There's a 12 bucks option currently in amazon but you have to build it yourself... I am thinking about that one, but I am also thinking of just sticking accupunture needles on a cork. Currently have small sewing needles on cork but it's not great.
@@Sprometheus I strongly disagree that "hobbies are expensive". They can be, but they certainly don't have to be. Every single hobby where gear can make a difference has its crowd of (usually loud) people throwing money mindlessly. I've been into photography, hi-fi: same thing, if not worse (gold-plated USB cables anyone?). Now, everyone is free to do what they want with their money. But flexing your pricey piece of kit without acknowledging the reasonable option is... just that: flexing. I get that when you buy a $5K Linea Mini, you also buy some qualities that are hard to quantify, such as build quality, durability, design, even brand. You also buy 30kg of steel machined in Italy, which is worth something to some people. I get that a nice tamper can be worth $200, when the handle feels like an extension to your body, when the design is actually original and unique and you want to reward the designer, when you use it day in day out as a barista. But $50 for a few needles and a handle with magnets? It is not the VST or Pullman of WDT tools, not even a luxury item, that's just overpriced. It's the kind of item that's rightfully found on a Chinese site for a few bucks. And then, for me specifically, there is concern for our environment. Home espresso is a hobby: therefore people get into it and out of it all the time, meaning that there is plenty of second-hand gear to be found for sale, much of it barely used (espresso is hard, people give up). Buying new often means that we're creating more garbage for the future. It makes so much sense to buy used and/or DIY! The WDT tool is the perfect candidate for DIY. Let's not forget that, or soon we'll have problems growing coffee in the first place.
I use the WDT to stir the ground coffee that fell into my NICHE dose cup ~ this breaks up static allowing all the coffee to easily fall into the filter basket. Am I wrong in doing this?
I love my Decent v3 tamper that rests on the top of my basket. I haven’t had a bad tamp. Waiting for more jkim WDT tools. I don’t like my wine cork setup
Good Evening, I have a Delongi Combo machine and I want to use a bottomless Portafilter is this possible with Delongi machine’s as my first attempt wast like filter coffee and the 8 cups after that I also have a WDT Tool as well. Regards Mark from England UK
Can you WDT without a dosing ring? I can’t without making a mess. I bought one without magnets and it works fine but I would be interested in your recommendation next time you update your top tools.
I’ve replaced a WDT tool, by and large, with a Weber blind shaker. I put a 2 inch neodymium magnet in the base of my Niche, so it snaps in and stays put. I’ve also moved to a calibrated tamper (Normcore in my case), which is something I didn’t think I’d ever do, but for whatever reason I find it works better in the workflow with the blind shaker than my palm or standard tampers. I still use a distribution tool, but I don’t even think it’s terribly necessary with the blind shaker if used right.
Sprometheus, have you ever done a side-by-side comparison of VST and Pullman ridgeless baskets? I’ve always exclusively used VST but after hearing you mention you’re using Pullman along with your Big Step tamper, I’m wondering if it will be any different or better than my VST? Thanks.
Yeah I did that basket comparison awhile back with the VST, Pullman and IMS. I feel like the Pullman and VST were very similar, and so the fit with the BigStep on the Pullman basket is what clenched the deal for me.
@@Sprometheus have you done a ridged vs ridgeless comparison? I used to use a ridged IMS, but am getting much better results with a ridgeless VST. biggest difference for me is a drier puck at the end for easier cleanup and maybe slightly less channeling.
High demand definitely helps, but I think a lot of times we want to support someone on the community too as opposed to paying $15 to Amazon or something like that.
Am I the only one having a hard time figuring out what the 3rd (or was it 2nd?) tool was? I guess it was WDT, scale, and tamper, but it felt like he was too busy waxing poetic over the middle half of the video to actually mention the item (based on the images, it had to be a scale).
They usually use 3D nozzle cleaning needles, around 0.016 in or 0.4064 mm, you can find the needles for cheap on Amazon and if you have access to a 3D printer there's a free file you can print the body of the tool and build our own, but also you can buy them already built with a bit better quality and finish
@@Sprometheus have your tried bigger needles? I’ve seen some videos suggesting .3 or .35 is a sweet spot for not being too thick as to move more smoothly through the grounds and also not so thin as to be too flimsy.
I’d typically recommend somewhere between .3 and .4 mm. JKIM has a great video demonstrating the different thicknesses and what happens with each. Theoretically thinner would be better, but you have to be much more meticulous with how you prep.
Honestly, a nice idea of a video, but imo it would have been so much better, if you had included what you used in your video from 3 years ago, and why and how something got added or removed. Bc now I would have to watch it again and piece together myself, why you removed something or why you added something. I think, that was a missed opportunity. But maybe thats just me. Otherwise enjoyable and informative content.
I think that slowly slowly comes out that distribution tools, that used to cost ~150€ when they lanched, are the biggest scam in coffee world, full of placebo effect I throw away mine, I feel ashamed to sell it, and I use only nutation and tamping
I don't think the WDT is breaking up clumps that the 13 kilos of tamping do not break... it's just distributing the grinds, which can also be done by tapping. A scale can help at first but the more you use it the more you depend on it and don't develop a feeling for the correct amount of coffee in the basket and in the cup. The tamper is obviously needed, but the other tools not really... they slow you down and take the "flow" away from your workflow :)
Do you think clumped grinds just magically unclump when tamped? They may be flattening out or compressing, but all that does is create pockets of even more denser grinds. The WDT creates an even grind consistency throughout so when tamped there’s less change of a clump causing a channel or other extraction issue. Tapping can be good to a point, but in excess it also causes fines to migrate and gather at the bottom of the basket leading to a chance of an uneven extraction. But if you’re happy with your workflow, no one is saying you have to change it.
@@Sprometheus that the fines can mitigate to the bottom by tapping makes sense, i did not think of that. But i still don't get the science behind why a tootpick would break a clump but kilo's of pressure won't...
The romantic/creative part of my brain screams “big step” but the practical/engineer part of my brain screams “puqpress”. Glad we are moving on from the last two weeks of evil robots taking jobs as well as companies in the speciality coffee industry behaving poorly and into feel good territory again. 🥳
Haha well why not both? I used the puq press, it’s cool but at home it feels like a novelty, and takes a bit of the fun out of it for me. And yes, even though all is not right with the world I’m trying to keep the vibe here about coffee and nothing more.
@@Sprometheus I agree, the press is overkill for a regular home setup and yes of course the focus should be on coffee 🥳! However if there are problems in our industry (and there are at points in every industry) there will be times where they may need to be spoken about by people with good intentions & integrity 🙂.
Yes there is, over tamping causes pucks to lift and stick to the screen, but as most ppl are using ims or nano coated screens they don’t stick just lift, look for a pissed puck after an over tamp. 👍🏻
I made myself a wdt tool this week after putting up with using a single needle for a while. Same coffee, same ratio but a lot better favour. Couldn't believe the difference, multiple shots later and it wasn't a fluke.
Absolutely, for the the taste difference is definitely noticeable
Interesting…How did you make it.?
@@ramirendall8665 0.4mm 3d printer needles into a cork, I only used 5 needles, one in the middle and the others at equal points from the middle in a square. I have a flair machine with a smaller portafilter so didn't need to make a larger one.
@@bobhopeandnohope300 much appreciated, I’ve recently upgraded from aeropress to the flair 58, this should sort out my channeling issues… cheers
As a coffee lover, I was going to make a coffee tamper on my metal lathe.
However
before this, I found this ‘Normcore’ tamper and bought it. It comes various sizes to match the portafilter of your machine.
It is better than I could have made, and comes with 3 spring settings which can be changed via a supplied Allen key and relevant springs and some mechanical aptitude.
This is a very good piece of equipment.
I have literally NEVER seen a professional barista use a WDT tool and yet….. they make delicious espresso.
The need for WDT cannot be over stated. It’s an absolute game changer for espresso.
Absolutely!
Love my jkim business card WDT. One thing you can do with his is remove the bottom spread disc, and use the 9 needle in a straight down configuration. Doesn't whisk as well if doing full wdt, but rakes easier if just doing the top. Also, a lot of makers sell a stand for their wdt, but I would skip that and just use a small cup with rice to help keep it clean.
That sounds pretty cool, I hadn’t thought about rice. I just use the magnet on mine to keep it within reach on the machine itself
@@Sprometheus Probably doesn't make that much of a difference since it's a minute amount of fines. Also, wdt is also double duty to scrape clean a dosing funnel if you are using one. Again, it's mostly fines coming off, but it's satisfying to do. :)
wow jsut woogled, thats really cool, much nicer than the bigger solid versions
I've been using a DIY WDT (cork with 010-size guitar string) and the happy tamper, and have total peace of mind over the puck prep process now. I also use a puck screen as my main driver is the Flair 58. Great shots even if the grind size is off!
I was just wondering how I might make one myself. that's a great idea 👍
Yooo that's actually a great idea for a WDT needle
I went from a Pullman to a Force tamper. I’ve find it helps to concentrate my focus on WDT and not be concerned with tamping at all.
I’m sure there are some inconsistencies when I tamp, but I just love that BigStep too much haha
which force tamper did you go with? if i may ask
@@sofalion it’s called “The Force Tamper”, it’s self levelling and punches down with the same force each time via a spring loaded mechanism.
@@paul--b I was just looking at it, $270
@@sciencescience9102 You can get tampers that do exactly the same thing for like 1/10 the price, lol.
First you un clump it and then you press it down and clump it all up. Makes sense.
More espresso tools in this video than blinks.
WDT without a dosing funnel is a pain in the! 🍑
Haha it can be, I don’t get too aggressive with it so I’m able to keep it pretty locked in. I do have a funnel, but it doesn’t look at good on video haha.
I see your problem, espresso tools should never be used rectally.
@therealsprometheus I’d personally add an espresso funnel to (my) list. While this doesn’t really necessarily impact flavor, it totally improves my workflow, and countertop. Once I started using one, I’ve never gone back.
A funnel was on my original list, but that was with a hopper based grinder, since it seems many (myself included) have switched to a single doser with a cup it just doesn’t seem necessary.
@@Sprometheus ah. I use it with both my hand grinders (when using my Picopresso, which nicely comes with one), as well as when I use my Modded-single-dosed Sette 270.
I still find useful when even single-dosing.
But, that’s just me.
@@Sprometheus I use a cup with my mazzer Luigi, it makes the workflow so much better: just put the cup on that scale to check, and next to no ground coffee on the counter top
The funnel is a great help as well with a dosing cup. Wdt is a pain to do if you're worrying about spilling the grounds everywhere.
@@MrMarki134 Yeah I'm with you. It's probably not for everyone and I can see that Spro doesn't but I too place my funnel on after I transfer from the dosing cup to make WDT easier. Let's me be much more aggressive that Spro in my WDT.
Bit the bullet and bought a WDT a month ago to replace the paper clip I was using and the difference is night and day. It's kind of funny that I was holding out on spending $30 on a WDT tool when I had no problem spending like $120 on multiple slow pour supply pitchers LMAO
Haha I feel that same way on just normal everyday stuff. I needed to buy socks and was like, I’m not spending $20 on a pair of socks, and then I’ll turn around and spend way more on random coffee toys
Have you seen the $1 WDT from JKIM?
@@Andrew-wp1bz I saw that from Lance's video but I don't have access to a 3D printer and also wanted a stand for it, so I just bought it from a random Etsy account
Spending more money definitely gets a better product.
JKIM is actually shipping them for $1 (or was at least). I think he got flooded with orders and upped the price a bit.
@@Andrew-wp1bz His retired father took over his operations, who is on Etsy. The price is upped, but out of stock from time to time, but don't mind supporting the creator and his father. Not allowed to post link, sorry.
I’ve changed to WDT and standard tamper and it’s been a huge level up over leveler and a weighted tamper
I’m with you! I mean, I see the value of the leveler, but I feel like I’m happier with the WDT and standard tamper.
Curious what you mean by weighted tamper? What’s an example of one?
@@Sprometheus exactly! The WDT and standard tamp have made it much easier to dial things in and has stopped mostly channeling.
@@michaelcibula9552 thought I answered this but it had an Amazon link so maybe it got spam filter? But basically it’s got a spring that applies like 30lbs of force or something
Hmmm I've been using a leveler and weighted tamper and thought this would give good consistency. I can see how a WDT would help but why would moving to standard tamper? Do you mean it gives you more control?
Awesome video, like always! I have a question concerning the WDT, have you measured the tds with a refractrometer, when pulling a shot with/without WDT and if, how was the difference?
more water contact pulls flavors ,is that good or bad
I have to say, coffee stuff in general tends to be a bit expensive, but WDT tools have taken this to a whole new level. It's quite literally some thin aluminium strips on a plastic cork and they are charging up to 50 bucks for this. You can get a good grinder (c2) for 50 bucks. These WDT prices are borderline insulting. Just HOW much juice do they want to squeeze out of every customer for every new thing that comes up? For 50 bucks it better have an autospin function with a chip and usb charger. Otherwise, 30 cents worth of needles on 50 cents worth of plastic and either 1 second of machining or 5 mins of manual work does not cost that much.
In some cases I will agree with you, but I’ll raise you two points.
For one, hobbies are expensive. As someone who grew up into Airsoft, cars, and now coffee it’s just par for the course that you’ll be buying expensive toys. But no one is forcing anyone to buy them, and if no one did they likely wouldn’t be around.
And second for a lot of us we spend a ton of time creating an aesthetic, a specific design for our coffee bars and paying a premium for a tool that fits isn’t a huge stretch.
As a bonus I will say the Sworks WDT I have comes with two needle widths and the ability to play around with layout, which for me customization like that is also worth a little more.
But in the end to each their own. I used a single acupuncture needle for awhile before upgrading and have no regrets.
You really don't need to pay to much for a wdt, just get the people's wdt 3d printed and get the 0.35 mm needles and that'll cost max $15. I just got a new wdt with a stand from a guy from reddit and it cost me only £10. So be patient asses your options and I'm sure you'll find something for a good price
@@Sprometheus I agree with most of what you said. Some people might think that me having a 200 dollars hand grinder is crazy, but it has brought me great enjoyment. Although the main thing about is that I can see where the money went... I can't say the same for the WDT tools I have seen so far. 30-50+ bucks for something so simple and fragile looking, and honestly, non precise... I doubt these things are like precision baskets with perfectly aligned holes with minimum differences that only a microscope can barely see...
I have a feeling that it's just a matter of time until we see in amazon 5-10 dollar options that work as well as any other and these established brands are charging high bucks cause they know the specialty coffee community in large can afford it and they 'got there first'. They will squeeze as much as they can until competition gets there and then whoops, we might see some large price drops.
There's a 12 bucks option currently in amazon but you have to build it yourself... I am thinking about that one, but I am also thinking of just sticking accupunture needles on a cork. Currently have small sewing needles on cork but it's not great.
simply buy a cap puller, cut off the connecting part between the wires, boom you have a wdt tool for 3 bucks
@@Sprometheus I strongly disagree that "hobbies are expensive". They can be, but they certainly don't have to be.
Every single hobby where gear can make a difference has its crowd of (usually loud) people throwing money mindlessly. I've been into photography, hi-fi: same thing, if not worse (gold-plated USB cables anyone?).
Now, everyone is free to do what they want with their money. But flexing your pricey piece of kit without acknowledging the reasonable option is... just that: flexing.
I get that when you buy a $5K Linea Mini, you also buy some qualities that are hard to quantify, such as build quality, durability, design, even brand. You also buy 30kg of steel machined in Italy, which is worth something to some people.
I get that a nice tamper can be worth $200, when the handle feels like an extension to your body, when the design is actually original and unique and you want to reward the designer, when you use it day in day out as a barista.
But $50 for a few needles and a handle with magnets? It is not the VST or Pullman of WDT tools, not even a luxury item, that's just overpriced. It's the kind of item that's rightfully found on a Chinese site for a few bucks.
And then, for me specifically, there is concern for our environment. Home espresso is a hobby: therefore people get into it and out of it all the time, meaning that there is plenty of second-hand gear to be found for sale, much of it barely used (espresso is hard, people give up). Buying new often means that we're creating more garbage for the future. It makes so much sense to buy used and/or DIY! The WDT tool is the perfect candidate for DIY. Let's not forget that, or soon we'll have problems growing coffee in the first place.
Which palm tamper is that at 2:19? As someone with gigantic hands, palm style tampers seem like a good fit
I use the WDT to stir the ground coffee that fell into my NICHE dose cup ~ this breaks up static allowing all the coffee to easily fall into the filter basket. Am I wrong in doing this?
Love the video. Nice coffee gadgets
My WDT is a tooth pick. But I economise and use the same pick for two weeks 🤣
Haha I used a single needle for months, so I get you.
I love my Decent v3 tamper that rests on the top of my basket. I haven’t had a bad tamp. Waiting for more jkim WDT tools. I don’t like my wine cork setup
A cork is definitely good in the meantime, I was just using a single needle before going all in on the tool. Glad I did.
@@Sprometheus I remember your single needle! Lol. I think my biggest regret is the size of needles I have. Should have gotten 0.3 instead of 0.4
Hey what will be a better tool in terms of espresso extraction duomo the eight or the sworksdesign?
Good Evening, I have a Delongi Combo machine and I want to use a bottomless Portafilter is this possible with Delongi machine’s as my first attempt wast like filter coffee and the 8 cups after that I also have a WDT Tool as well.
Regards
Mark from England UK
Can I buy a different portafilter and baskets for my Neretva Espresso machine?
Thanks as always.
Of course! Thanks for being a loyal viewer!
@@Sprometheus *ALWAYS!* 👊🏻
Can you WDT without a dosing ring? I can’t without making a mess. I bought one without magnets and it works fine but I would be interested in your recommendation next time you update your top tools.
Ive just ordered Pullman Big Step tamper. May I use it with the original La Marzocco baskets or I have to order Pillman Baskets too
Are you doing wdt from bottom to top like lance hedrick do or just stir at the top ?
Would you recommend the WTD tool for stovetop moka pots as well or just real espresso makers?
I use one on my moka pot, and the same theory applies, but it’s all up to you,
@@Sprometheus thanks so much for the response
I’ve replaced a WDT tool, by and large, with a Weber blind shaker. I put a 2 inch neodymium magnet in the base of my Niche, so it snaps in and stays put.
I’ve also moved to a calibrated tamper (Normcore in my case), which is something I didn’t think I’d ever do, but for whatever reason I find it works better in the workflow with the blind shaker than my palm or standard tampers. I still use a distribution tool, but I don’t even think it’s terribly necessary with the blind shaker if used right.
Which needle size do you recommend?
Sprometheus, have you ever done a side-by-side comparison of VST and Pullman ridgeless baskets? I’ve always exclusively used VST but after hearing you mention you’re using Pullman along with your Big Step tamper, I’m wondering if it will be any different or better than my VST?
Thanks.
Yeah I did that basket comparison awhile back with the VST, Pullman and IMS. I feel like the Pullman and VST were very similar, and so the fit with the BigStep on the Pullman basket is what clenched the deal for me.
@@Sprometheus - Ah, yes, I remember seeing that video. Will rewatch it…
@@Sprometheus have you done a ridged vs ridgeless comparison? I used to use a ridged IMS, but am getting much better results with a ridgeless VST. biggest difference for me is a drier puck at the end for easier cleanup and maybe slightly less channeling.
@@johni-db4xv I should have done research before ordering VST baskets. Just ordered two ridged ones…
Love to see a Gina video!
I get confuse at the beginning of the video because few days ago I have watched the old video 🤦♂️
WDT tool for $50? Damn, I guess it's the result of high demand.
High demand definitely helps, but I think a lot of times we want to support someone on the community too as opposed to paying $15 to Amazon or something like that.
Better to make it yourself by sticking some sewing needles into a wine cork. It’s exactly the same thing for less than a dollar
What cup is that? 👍🏼 the grey espresso cup?
That’s from my friend Sarah who makes them, you can get them from her shop www.skayeceramics.com
Can you recommend a more affordable wdt?
Am I the only one having a hard time figuring out what the 3rd (or was it 2nd?) tool was? I guess it was WDT, scale, and tamper, but it felt like he was too busy waxing poetic over the middle half of the video to actually mention the item (based on the images, it had to be a scale).
You may be the only one, but yeah it’s a scale and tamper.
What size needles do you use with your WDT tool?
They usually use 3D nozzle cleaning needles, around 0.016 in or 0.4064 mm, you can find the needles for cheap on Amazon and if you have access to a 3D printer there's a free file you can print the body of the tool and build our own, but also you can buy them already built with a bit better quality and finish
This tool comes with two widths, .22 and .25, I have a mixture of them on the tool
@@Sprometheus have your tried bigger needles? I’ve seen some videos suggesting .3 or .35 is a sweet spot for not being too thick as to move more smoothly through the grounds and also not so thin as to be too flimsy.
I’d typically recommend somewhere between .3 and .4 mm.
JKIM has a great video demonstrating the different thicknesses and what happens with each.
Theoretically thinner would be better, but you have to be much more meticulous with how you prep.
Ugh I want that Pullman but it's so damn pricey. I love my Pullman basket though
Honestly, a nice idea of a video, but imo it would have been so much better, if you had included what you used in your video from 3 years ago, and why and how something got added or removed. Bc now I would have to watch it again and piece together myself, why you removed something or why you added something. I think, that was a missed opportunity. But maybe thats just me. Otherwise enjoyable and informative content.
Hey Asa - who is the espresso cup from??
Hey Gregory, those are from Sarah Kaye ceramics - www.skayeceramics.com/cups-for-coffee
I saw only 2 tools in the video
You look like Jony Ive :)
Haha I had to look up who that is expecting the worst, but honestly not mad about it
Do you still use OCD?
Nope, I keep it for random experiments and the like, but it’s not part of my routine regularly.
My mate is enjoying his WDT, but it's not for me, it ruins all my hard work.
I think that slowly slowly comes out that distribution tools, that used to cost ~150€ when they lanched, are the biggest scam in coffee world, full of placebo effect
I throw away mine, I feel ashamed to sell it, and I use only nutation and tamping
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Wdt diy tool and straight tamping, worked best for taste and repeatability
I don't think the WDT is breaking up clumps that the 13 kilos of tamping do not break... it's just distributing the grinds, which can also be done by tapping. A scale can help at first but the more you use it the more you depend on it and don't develop a feeling for the correct amount of coffee in the basket and in the cup. The tamper is obviously needed, but the other tools not really... they slow you down and take the "flow" away from your workflow :)
Do you think clumped grinds just magically unclump when tamped? They may be flattening out or compressing, but all that does is create pockets of even more denser grinds. The WDT creates an even grind consistency throughout so when tamped there’s less change of a clump causing a channel or other extraction issue. Tapping can be good to a point, but in excess it also causes fines to migrate and gather at the bottom of the basket leading to a chance of an uneven extraction.
But if you’re happy with your workflow, no one is saying you have to change it.
@@Sprometheus that the fines can mitigate to the bottom by tapping makes sense, i did not think of that. But i still don't get the science behind why a tootpick would break a clump but kilo's of pressure won't...
The romantic/creative part of my brain screams “big step” but the practical/engineer part of my brain screams “puqpress”.
Glad we are moving on from the last two weeks of evil robots taking jobs as well as companies in the speciality coffee industry behaving poorly and into feel good territory again. 🥳
Haha well why not both? I used the puq press, it’s cool but at home it feels like a novelty, and takes a bit of the fun out of it for me.
And yes, even though all is not right with the world I’m trying to keep the vibe here about coffee and nothing more.
@@Sprometheus I agree, the press is overkill for a regular home setup and yes of course the focus should be on coffee 🥳! However if there are problems in our industry (and there are at points in every industry) there will be times where they may need to be spoken about by people with good intentions & integrity 🙂.
There's no such thing as over tamping. Well unless you're the hulk or something.
Yes there is, over tamping causes pucks to lift and stick to the screen, but as most ppl are using ims or nano coated screens they don’t stick just lift, look for a pissed puck after an over tamp. 👍🏻
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Thanks for watching my friend!