Learn to code with an unfair advantage.
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You could consider this a part 2 of the video "How I would learn to code if I could start over". In this video I discuss the second part of the puzzle, frameworks. Which ones should you learn and why learning the wrong ones will hurt your career.
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📚Chapters📚
0:00 - Intro
1:34 - Framework Fever
3:03 - Don't become a Philosopher
4:00 - Learn the thing before the thing
5:55 - Should you learn Rust?
7:25 - Adoption Curve
9:15 - Analyzing 14M job listings
10:27 - A good framework
10:57 - I hired a 17 year old coding genius
12:46 - Sponsored Segment
14:48 - Final words - Věda a technologie
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BTW don't use Redux that was just an example - React has built in tools now
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Yup, Context :)
Love the production value. Do you edit your own videos?
My friend I'm sorry to tell you but you got it the wrong way around:
Programming is the mathematical part, not coding.
A program is an abstract representation of instructions that dictate execution behaviour of an interpreting apparatus. The concrete representation of that program is the code, and it may vary from one interpreting apparatus to the next.
You can write a program in pseudocode and it will still be a program, because it represents the abstract steps to realise the behaviour. If you want to realise a program though you have to translate it into concrete code that can be interpreted by a processor, and so you will have to translate the abstract description of a program into a programming language of your choice, where it will take the form of actual code. Before that, there is no 'Code', at least not formally.
Furthermore, the representation as code in a programming language is only an intermediary state of the program, in general it has to undergo further translations until it is interpretable by the processor of your computer in the form of executable binaries, which is the final form of any code. The reason why the concrete code of a program in a programming language is called 'Source Code' is because it is the formal source for the compiler to start translating it into 'Executable Code'.
Also not to be confused, a program is NOT an algorithm, which is probably what you meant to refer to as being the general mathematical solution to a general problem, like finding the shortest path in a graph or sorting a list.
In the context of computer science and mathematics, an algorithm is a program that implements a general solution to a general problem (not only an instance of that problem but the whole class of that problems) and it always has to terminate in a finite number of steps.
So in general, a program is not a mathematical solution to a problem and coding most definitely isn't the mathematical part of solving a problem, oftentimes a program is just a procedure that produces desireable behaviour for most of the time, but most programs are not free from errors nor complete solutions to the problems they try to solve, so in most cases you should consider a program more a product of engineering than a product of pure mathematics, that would be reserved for algorithms.
To conclude, programming a mathematical solution implicitely means writing an algorithm, which is a particular case of programming, but in general, programming is the act of specifying instructions that represent computational behaviour, which can be abstract (with pseudocode) concrete (in a programming language) or even explicit (in binary form), but this is not necessarily mathematical. The distinction between programming and coding is mainly that programming is the part where you conceptualize the computational behaviour, and coding is the part where you translate (encode) a conceptual program into a symbolic form that is machine interpretable, the actual code.
Hope this explanation clarifies the subtlety between the two terms ...
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Main takeaway: Don't just learn frameworks, understand why you use them.
yes, then apply chatgpt to build that logic out ;)
to understand why we are using frameworks, try to build somehting from scratch and then compare it how to achieve the same thing with frameworks
Thanks, I was looking what the supposed unfair advantage was.
What a waste of time
its just another coding youtube channel milking views@@nielagi5029
@@ConspiracyCraftersStudio Frameworks handles both front and back-end development. Saves time, get more done.
I do feel sorry for young programmers these days having to learn frameworks as well. I programmed from 1980 for about 20 years and there were very few frameworks or methodologies then. One that I did come across was a thing called Method 1 for COBOL developers.
Programmers used it to build mock front-ends and with minimal data on the back-end. The idea was to build these mock ups for a very complicated planned maintenance system for a large chemical company. After a year of fooling around the project got canned because COBOL just could not cut it for some of the modules. Sad day when good programmers cleared their desks.
Anyway, you young guns are doing great work so keep it up; its going to become more challenging in the future.
Is the challenge now keeping up with all these frameworks?
Oh my god dude, I almost fell out of my chair when you talked about "why are you making a portfolio" what is this trap people fall into? When I was looking for work literally EVERYONE I knew was making a portfolio, with all the same stuff on it from the same youtube video It MADE NO SENSE to me. SO I made a really lame little browser game that showed WHO I AM I landed a job no sweat with this! I know people that spent WEEEEEKS building their portfolio where wordpress could do this in an hour 🤣
"Centering a div" As someone that focused on learning back-end and then trying to learn some front end (bc I suck at it pretty bad), this resonates with me so much. Im so glad Flexbox and grid exists lol
Flexbox is, hands down, my favorite feature that's ever been added to any language - bar none. God was it awful getting hung up on something that was ostensibly so simple, and I had done SO many times before lol
Watched this twice. Once myself and again with my brother who's an engineer. Super engaging and there are many learnings in this. Feel like I have a great idea of where to start (if I were starting my programming journey today). Well done my friend!
Aww thank you so much! Keep up the good work yourself :)
Thank you so much, I've started to learn programming for a while, but I always get struck by choosing which language is the most popular. But now I know that is not about the language, but the programming principle's or algorithm that 's matter.
Thank you for baking subtitles directly into the videos. You are a blessing
Man, you have given the best explanation I have heard about this "framework fever feeling". Few people talks about the roots and whys of what's behind. Thanks for this, great job!
I personally hate that nothing is ever gone into or explained about programming beyond "here is how you print" not what the brackets mean, why these symbols are used why it's different in different languages etc. That is the kind of thing I need to know to learn and memorize and become a better programmer in the long run.
@@shadowshatto Yeah I know what you mean... but I also think that, following with your example, even questioning why you must write brackets that way and not another, means you already understood the basics and that you are prepared for a "deeper" knowledge... so I think that you must walk the path yourself, but of course, good guidance, good teachers and people who can explain things clearly, are gold while you keep acquiring experience.
this is fantastic, it never ends, so many useless youtubers about productivity and coding, when the main ideas of this disciplines can be absorbed when making a couple of projects and reading 2-3 books that inspire you
I'll be forever grateful to my CS professor that taught us what a program and programming is by making us compile and execute our hello world C program with gcc. It's clunky and it's unnecessary when working with real world applications, but sure gives a programmer the perspective of a framework
The way this video explains everything in such easy manner! 🔥
Great video, especially given how hard it is to stand out in this job market/ feels like this stuff is super useful and practical!!
While it may be good advice to start with Python or JS you have to also look at the supply side of the supply demand curve. Learning a more niche language means you have a more niche skillset. Learning a newer niche language means you're not competing with the people with 30 years experience.
Bro your videos are really one of the best! So clear and informative. Thanks for sharing!
Your video is so interesting that I didn't even notice you were holding a spatula like your mic until the 9 minute mark. As someone with OCD, I'll tell you, that's an accomplishment.
Exactly!!!!. I was stuck with the hello world bubble until I learnt how to use frameworks
Ah - my first language was cobol - in 1983 - been in and out of management and back to coding since then, learnign the 'active' tech every time ...... and 7 years ago, started a start up with Angular (it was 50/50 react vs angular at the time) - NOW we're big enough, I would look for an angular coders... exactly what you are talking about.... (there is no NEED to rewrite in react) - Oh my model app - YES, I did rewrite that is Flutter... because it made sense...
There's some really good advice which opened my eyes. Thanks man. Specially that curve its really eye opening
really good video dude, was super informative
Oh wow dude. This is such a well done video! Well done, and I love how you approached this. It’s a hard thing to encourage and teach coding, and this has influenced me to approach how I mentor now. Thank you!
Thanks for your comment! Appreciate it :)
Keep up the mentoring!
Looking forward to more videos! AND MORE LIVESTREAMS 🎉
This was actually well produced 🔥
Thanks for this!
Again, great video mate!
When you pick a framework I think you should search the Reveal video of the framework and LEARN what problem it was trying to solve. Homework should be building a project with those problems so you can UNDERSTAND the problem and solution a lot deeper if you haven't seen them before already. Extra credit, try to build a mini version of the framework by scratch to get an understanding how it works under the hood. They're usually open source but you should try to do it blind first. Quit when it's drag and get back to it when you need to deep dive a mysterious internal.
"The chances of Microsoft rewriting Windows in Rust is practically Zero."
BlueHat IL 2023 - David Weston - Default Security mentions including Rust in the core system, going as far as promising it "within the next few months" at 51:40. That was last year in April.
Otherwise solid advice.
I worked on windows for years! Lots of efforts to try and get it into a few spots. Can promise you they’ll never rewrite most of it in rust
It's nearly impossible getting a job knowing a single language with a single framework. All these jobs want "Looking for a python, c#, and js developer with django, react, and .net framework experience. Java knowledge is a plus!"
So true lol. Java and c# don't even go together 😂
I use programming and coding interchangeably. I also use engineer, developer, programmer, coder interchangeably.
I think it is hard to try to decide which one of those means which subset of what the whole job is.
Fair - I think colloquially I do too. I’m just trying to provide some advice about how to think about it. I’d never be annoying enough to try and correct someone in convo haha
video is so appealing, great work
5:58 I thought you were gonna say "Today it's rust, tomorrow it's a bust"
lol
Killer video man! Happy to see you back! Programming is fundamentally just about problem solving. That's something a lot of people forget. Languages and frameworks are just tools to solve problems
Thanks man! Happy to be back too!
great explanation no word, But I enjoyed the way you presented it more than the idea.
It is effing good to be honest.
I was skeptical but there are some useful observations here for sure.
The more fundamental way of putting this is, that universal, basic concepts and principles are more important than individual programming languages. If you want to learn any one single language, I would recommend FORTH. Not because many people still really use it, but because FORTH will teach you the underlying reality behind ALL programming languages, in a much clearer way than virtually any contemporary language. Don't learn FORTH to use it as a contemporary language; learn FORTH to help you understand other languages.
Well said! Will use some of this clarity in another vid at some point
Calling Rust a fad after nearly a decade of solid progress and it reaching the Linux kernel is a bit much
Lol, rust bro go brrrrrrrr
Using an old tech has an advantage.
Fewer and fewer people can hack it. As enough time passed, nobody could do it.
You are AWESOME!! Will see it! Thanks!
Awesome video. Thanks!!
In this video, the speaker discusses the importance of learning coding and Frameworks, and how to approach them effectively. The speaker emphasizes that coding is just one part of the problem, while the other part is often related to physics or mathematics. They also mention that learning Frameworks is essential, but it's important to understand the thing before the thing. The speaker discusses the adoption curve and how it applies to learning new programming languages or Frameworks. They also share their experience of hiring a 17-year-old coding genius over a senior engineer at Facebook. The speaker encourages focusing on solving real-world problems through coding and building projects that have a real impact. They also provide a template for a portfolio website to help people get back to building projects with real impact.
So you're an automatic ai scribe, huh
@@mrmaniac9905 kinda lol, I run the transcript of the video and its title through a LM with a prompt i developed. That way I can get the essence of the video relating to the title that made me click, without having to sit through 10 minutes of bloat. i got a 2 min video on the process if you are curious.
@@Maebbie hey can u link that up if you don't mind?
@@tutohowto5345 its the most recent video on my channel
Thanks, Mr LLM
Make the thing. Got it.
PHP has been “in the laggards category” since the mid 1990. Much like humanity has been predicting that the end of the world is nigh for thousands of years and been wrong every time, I think we should all just accept the fact that PHP will live on for quite a while.😊
PHP is still like >75% of the web too. I could understand some of the criticism if it was something like 20%. JS sites are less than 4% of the web last time I checked.
I don't if i am eligible to say this 😅, but i literally thinks and does the same , like making template website and that saves me weeks of work, just to modify the design and about the tech knowledge i think it is very important to look into how this tech does this work internally, bcz I've seen many ppl with 2-3yrs experience in js and they still don't know how event loop works
This video is absolutely great !
I stumbled upon the same problems you described, and your have a very interesting take on them. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Thanks for sharing!
I started with C and C++ in college, jumped to java cause everyone told me java had more opportunities and now decided to learn javascript and i swear i hate java now so much
Greetings. What service did you use to generate the headshot photo from the video? Sorry if somebody already asked.
Really great video, bro. But how do you manage time in college between academics, solving LeetCode, studying data structures, and also doing development and building side projects?
Easier said than done. I think that’s definitely why I recommend focus. Better to pick 1-2 technologies than to spread your time across a ton. There’s no magic bullet you just have to push through
Just wanted to comment given Ruby is gaining some popularity that I don't know how accurate this is but I remember having contact for the first time with ruby at least 15 years ago,
I remember the 3rd gen of Pokemon (ruby, Sapphire, emerald) used Ruby. I tried making some hackrooms of pokemon when I was a kid and what always stopped me as well as others from doing complex changes to the game was that scripts were written in Ruby, I was too lazy to actually learn a language for that.
This is just a vague memory from more than a decade ago, I actually don't know for certain if the game was made in ruby or it was just the tool people used to edit scripts.
Dude, you made a great video with your philosophy, brilliant
Thank u so much dude , I am a 16 year old lad and doing a web development!!! Eager to learn more form u ! Sir 🤝
as an experienced dev and "bsc cs engineer" i wholeheartedly agree. its all about the pseodo code, not the language specificity. react was developed to reign in javascript craziness, java was invented to ease the pain of cpp, cpp was invented to box in c, c was invented to mold down assembler, assembler was insvented to wind down asm together with risc. and pascal was invented to connect between asm and high level c. every langauge and framework is another way to build the mousetrap. every year i need to look at new code devs are writing incl nodejs, typescript, python2.7, python 3+, async, pandas, ruby and the liat just never ends. learn to code, learn SOLID learn to write testable code, learn good ALM practices. the langauge is meaningless and ai will do most of the heavy lifting anyway
I normally don't comment on videos, but this is a worthy one to comment on. What an amazing video!
So kind 🥰 thank you 😊
Second comment: as someone who roughly banged my head to learn to code 18 years ago, these thought patterns would have helped me a ton. Especially the concept around frameworks and philosophies. ALSO, as a proud laggard, this is a wonderful way to talk about new frameworks and adoption (and how bleeding edge is called that for a reason). Thanks again man
Thanks for all your comments! I didn’t even intend the “bleeding edge” thing as a double entendre but glad it worked out that way haha
@@JasonGoodison that’s always how I’ve interpreted it. Frameworks and systems are built on the early and fantastic failures of those first iterations! Haha
Came here from Bumble. Love your work!
The dating app? Lmao
@@PhilosopherBillionaires yes 😌
damn these videos are high quality!
do you edit your videos yourself?
Great Video!
Amazing video Jason. Am glad u posted after long time.We missed u
Missed you more!
This video deserves a sub and a like.
Ok. So this made me blow up my computer and move to a remote island on mars.
Off to a good start
(you lost me at 00:30)
Regarding the 9m55s mark.. any thoughts where Flutter and the Nuxt JS frameworks are in the Early Adopters / Early - Late Majority / Laggards curve?
Redux does seem like a lot of boilerplate BS - I guess there are a lot of legacy applications using it because it was one of the first? I have played around with React at home and quickly ruled out Redux and ended up using Recoil - it's a lot simpler and worked really well, but it's also a lot newer, so maybe not as much in demand. Great video!
Do you mind sharing the AI tool you used for your profile picture?
I need to know the VS Code theme you were using for the NextJS Exaple haha
I tought he would say the vantage was not needing of money, so he could take how many hours he can to learn without beeing anxious with bills. But yeah, understanding the pourpose of something before diving into it is probably the cheapest way to spend your time learning something you're going to use.
0:30 this was a joke as it should be "printLn" instead of "printIn" (sorry I had to do it ;-; I havent used Java a lot tho... only used it to make Minecraft Mods ;-;)
Crushed!
Well Hurd😊... Used creating my portfolio as a learning activity for my frontend and back end skill. Runs on node and it helped me land my first internship 😊
rust passed the hill because of easy web assembly like in parcel.js and in the linux kernel
This is disappointing how he made the same logical blunder so many others do at 9:30. Looking only at the demand for specific job skills is meaningless unless you also look at the supply! Yes there are a lot of JS jobs out there. There are even more devs who want JS jobs! If getting hired is the goal, focus on skills where the demand outstrips the supply. This is generally in fast growing sectors. My advice would be to focus on AI, VR or Crypto. If you're determined to focus on more traditional tech, then look at something where there's a chronic undersupply, and a higher barrier to entry, like mobile development.
I love your hair ❤❤
Great video, Jason! 🎉
Thanks Pooja!
Loved the entire video, as a developer myself it's really insightful
and it's really good to see you back on CZcams!, let's gooo!
Much appreciated! Thanks Satyam!
what font are you using at 1:05?
Kindly explore flutter and dart
0:31 no it isn't because typo. It says printIn() instead of println()
Me using vanilla js for frontend and backend.
Bloody hell I wasnt expecting this video to be that good. I was saying "oh wow" and "thats so true" every few seconds😂
Now that I thought about it it's actually smart giving the kid a chance because at such a young age he reflects traits the is valued at a company and that you could help him gain more experience and guide him. The facebook senior could get a job relatively quickly. I would ask how to be more like the kid.
If it works, it is right way to do it. Summarised.( I can't believe im liking the video of someone who said windows is good, and rust is bad. )
I worked on windows for 3.5 years and hated every minute of using the OS (haha). Also I meme on rust cause it gets people riled up but I do think it’s a pretty sick lang
I’m a COBOL programmer, was like printing money during w2k. I suppose you don’t like Fortran either. When was C created??????
I hate java, it was the first language they used to teach me how to code on school and I had a really hard time. Almost failed that class and still don't know how to code very well😅 Very informative video.
So I have to build stuff using languages that those companies use because that's what I will do there.
Starting to learn coding today I will update in a month what happens because rn nothing makes sense to me.
9:43 What did you mean by cycles?
Frameworks are just opinions. God do I love that line
Should i learn node.js?
Hey Jason. You are talking really fast. There's the function on youtube to play the video at a lower speed, but that makes the sound scurry. On the other hand, if you talked slower, impatient people could just speed it up which usually sounds fine ^_^
have you explained anywhere how you produced that profile pic with ai, that was very interesting, how? If you don't mind me asking
Be a 17 year old genius, got it.
That's easy enough.
you're supposed to
public void printMe(String) {
strOut = String;
System.out.println(strOut)
}
because writing system.out.println 10 million times isn't efficient. Now you just printMe("dumb string here");
wow, i get new perspective..
your video editor pick wrong redux logo, it's redux from wp ecosystem not from react
asking "what is the velocity of the earth" is probably one of the worst examples you could have chosen
This is all SUCH A GOOD POINT
You know the video is off when they call React and Node JS frameworks and when you scroll down to the comments to complain about it, you see in the description of the video sponsor: Hostinger... really?
Hey man, I actually am quite aware that React is technically a js lib and node is a runtime environment. This video isn’t meant to confuse people with different definitions by getting super technical, so I felt that the simplification helped me land my overall point. Either way, these are tools you have to learn to build projects.
@@JasonGoodison yea but that's like saying bricks and wood are the same as concrete because they can be used to make a house or more related to programming example: saying that Notepad is an IDE like Visual Studio if you try to edit some quick snippets of code
@@xeliotrop not sure I fully agree - if someone said their backend was written "in node", you'd probably just understand and move on. Usually people say Node in that context but mean Express.js, at least in my experience (which, of course, could always be wrong, its just my experience). I do talk about express in the video. thatthis one builds off of (and I think I might talk about it a bit in this vid too)
But either way, I see your point and hope you see mine. Thanks for your comment, please continue to comment on my videos if you find inconsistencies, I do truly appreciate the feedback even if we disagree :)
You are so wrong my friend... @@JasonGoodison
Dude really pulled the “technically” card…. The creator pulled over a million in funding… maybe learn from the guy. Doubt you’ve done anything close and are trying to make up for it with finding fault with him…
Redux is unnecessary since React context ❤
How did you get that ai generated profile pic, what service did you use?
true also wondering lol
Did you find
what did i just watch something useful or an advert for Hostinger?