Podcast 09: Mittani Aryans & Debunking the Syrian Sanskrit Origin Theory
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- čas přidán 13. 02. 2024
- In the realm of social media, you may encounter numerous news articles and videos asserting that Sanskrit traces its roots to present-day Syria. However, this narrative is misleading, stemming from misinterpretations of evidence and the selective presentation of facts. In this podcast, I delve into the linguistic and anthropological aspects of the issue, unraveling the complexities surrounding the #Aryan, #Mitanni, #IndoAryan, #AryanMigration, shedding light on the historical and archaeological dimensions. #HistoryUnveiled #ArchaeologicalInsights
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Another point if Sanskrit & Arya's originated outside Bharat , there wida been clear refferences in rg Veda samhita holding these places of origin as sacred but we find only places within India being sacred.
Yes. This will be discussed in a future video.
Nope. You are assuming that the Aryans came in one go. That the people who set out from Central Asia reached India. That's not how ancient migrations happened. People move only a few 100 km per generation at max - some generations may not have moved at all. They didn't set out with a goal of reaching India or any specific place, rather simply finding the nearest habitable area. So as the groups grew in numbers and split in branches, either due to internal conflicts or depletion of resources or natural disasters like shifting of the courses of rivers, they must have moved on to the next available nearest habitable place. This way one of the branches reached Iran and India over generations. Their languages and myths too changed even if slightly along these branches. The Vedas were composed in India 100s of years after the Aryans had been living in the region between Iran-India(Punjab). They had no memory of Central Asia as that was 10-20 generations back.
@@aritrabhattacharyya8797 So you are saying that Jews and Christians who migrated to India almost 2000 years ago remembers their culture, religion, Native Americans also remember their Shamanic traditions over these thousands of years but these central Asians didn't remember any of the central Asian place ? Really, how all of a sudden they are the only ones that don't remember any of their holy sites, not even a single place of central Asia which was worth remembering and noting it within Rigveda ? How's that even possible? Why all of the holy rivers or holy places surprisingly exist within India but not even a holy land of Central Asia ?
@@arupjyotisarma976 Because they had it codified and those migrations didn't result in complete isolation. Yet Christianity too changed a lot. Nicean Christianity that was practically born in Europe is different from Hebrew Christianity in many fundamental matters like ressurection of Jesus, month of his birth etc. The dead sea scrolls tell us how the original Christianity must have been. And no one said that the Indo Europeans didn't remember the traditions - ofcourse they did. That's how we trace their links to other cultures spread across Central Asia and Europe. Because of the commonality of the myths, language and traditions. It is also possible that they named their rivers based on an ancient memory as they moved and settled - that's why we have multiple Saraswatis. But the Hinduism that we know today is largely indigenous and very little of Indo European traditions are relevant to it. Most of the gods that we worship belong to the indigenous culture of India that existed before the migrations.
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The Caspian sea is named after Rishi Kashyapa.
The Amu Darya and Syr Darya rivers were called Vakshu and Surya Nada rivers.
Main mistake historisns did was considering sanskrit is older thsn pali-prakrit.
SANSKRIT IS TECHNICALLY MOST PERFECT LANGUAGE
The Hindi alphabet म is pronounced with अ sound not with आ sound And when you say Brahma in English it is wrong pronunciation its is actually pronounced Brhm but in text books it has been written in English connotation which prounounces all letters in reverse form for example Hindi र is pronounced R(ar) in English, and Aryan migration to India is false
Enjoyed today's video. Waiting for the theory on Aryan Migration!
One small correction, the etymology of the Mitanni "satta" has more to do with it being easier to write "satta" in cuneiform than "sapta" as well as the pronunciation of the Hurrian language because, like you said, the script can influence pronunciation.
Very refined work keep it up 👍👍
Some people say aryans originally from europe, please dont say😅, it was in ice age till recently
The Rig Vedic people were the ocp culture and generally referred to as copper hordes culture. The latest excavation from Sinauli and Rakhigarhi prove that similarity with Rig veda.
This dates Rig Veda to later harappa period of 2500 bc to 1900 bc. These were the vedic people who moved and mixed with later harappa people.
Genetic data too is supporting this.
The odds of that are 0 , OCP people do not have horses, horses do not show up in until Painted Grey Ware culture which definitely is associated with actual Vedic. There are admixed Mittani children and they don't show any Indian ancestry but Steppe MLBA and Central Asian ancestry.
sample: Levant Megiddo MLBA o2:I10100
distance: 2.6374
Levant_Megiddo_MLBA: 53.5
Srubnaya_Alakul_MLBA: 27.5
Aigyrzhal_BA: 19
The same ancestry shows up in Brahmins
Satta means he is dead in Dravidian kannada
Aryan's originated in Bharat (full stop) and they are not white skined.
Browns
Indo Aryans are fair,Wheatish skinned people who mixed with Harrapan people mostly they are causacoids OK
The most handsome people are from states like the
1.Jammu & Kashmir
2.Himachal Pradesh
3.Uttarkhand state
4.The Punjab state
5.Haryana state
6.Uttar Pradesh
7.Rajasthan state
8.Gujarat state
@@kikaa1884 Aryans were Neolithic Iranian farmers and their skin is brown until they mixed with steppes in 1000BCE
Syrians and Lebanese have Indian Hindu DNA. All converted to Islam, quite a shame.
You need more reach out man youve been detailed on your arguements
ANY TRIBE THAT ORIGINATES FROM INDIA HAS A MATHRA SYSTEM LANGUAGE
o.o India's Mathra System language uses symbols to change the sound of alphabets - Arabic, Persian, etc (West of India), Hindi, Kannada (India) & Bali, Khymer, etc (East of India) were languages of Indian Origin people. Europeans also have links to Indian Mathra System of languages from which they evolved from, since their ancestors where mostly Asian, Indians
There's difference between alphabet and language. Alphabet relates to script. Most ancient languages didn't have scripts
@@aritrabhattacharyya8797 u know nothin o.o black rock / youtube cannot protect you from being exposed
@@aritrabhattacharyya8797 we know everything, you can go. don't know what a writing system is, teaching us about linguistics
@@aritrabhattacharyya8797 CZcams / black rock can create whatever stories & try cencor people exposin their lies. But lies is just lies. You cannot make it truth. We will make fun of u
Sanskrit has a writing system, its the INDIAN MATHRA SYSTEM. This simple fact you did not know & trying to make entire theory to give Sanskrit to Europeans who do not know to was their nethers. o.o Sorry but sanskrit is my inheritence. You can go.
there is no aryan migration as there is no genetic difference.. Rug Ved described saraswati river as far back as 22 k bce .. even old submerged dwarka cities are as old as 20k bce when sea levels were much lower .. archeological evidence is can not be considered as sole evidence it can be one of the evidence
I am going to explore this in the future.
The main point is what does it change if aryans came from Caspian sea, they spread to many parts there is no fus over there. The misconception that Sanskrit was made elsewhere is completely baseless Sanskrit is completely developed in India. And aryans completely mixed with India. In ancient world migrations were common as there were barely any Empire and nomadic people migrated to civilizations to settle down. Didn't we all come from Africa? If people are so obsessed with the first Indian DNA they should go to sentinel island. Even the early Harappan people's genome is mixed.
The inscription have vedic gods name, which indicates that it is sanskrit
@@rg9652 It was Hurrian language with some words taken from Sanskrit
What evidence do you have to say that rig vedic sanskrit developed in South Asia?
@@yj9032 the geography mentioned in Rigveda is of the subcontinent. There is no memory or description of a land beyond South Asia.
What does it change ?
You can claim that your ancestors went to a foreign land, razed the indigenous population, and made the new population. That is exactly what the whites are doing, muslims are going etc....this is why everybody project their viewpoints on others. So that you can control/ contain others and manipulate them for your needs.
While it is common sense, truthful and wise to realise and accept that people went out of India and some came in, it is absolutely necessary that you don't give another bit of chance for others to advance forward than you wish. So de- teething foreign invasion narratives and keeping your own control over it is very important. I'm telling this for other Indians. Everybody should come to this conclusion without someone else like me telling you. Because everybody else do this very well. Look at European description of chingis Khan, he is tall , blonde, blue eyed, Buddha is scythian ....the narrative is endless. This is how you project and enforce yourself on others. And overtime people tend to believe this because Europeans are somewhat 'successful' in many aspects. This will bring down your trust in yourself and your blood. And that's exactly what they want.
So yeah brown people went out fair people came in. It should never cross over this.
Rig veda was copied by Iranians or persians and created avesta and mittanis copied part of stories but only India have other 4 Vedas why they don't have , becoz they can only copy part
Even hindu arabic numbers they copied and added their name
Aryan migration If you really want to debunk...then...just take Genetic study of North Indian...and match with Seriya and other in central Asia...
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Aryan wasn't even present at the time of the Mithani. If they call themselves Aryan, then Egyptians could also be referred to as such. Your video is based on false facts; Aryans originated from North Afghanistan, being a mix of the BMAC and Andronovo civilizations.
The migration of the Mitanni in crescent valley occurred around 2000 BC to 1800 BC, while the Aryan civilization formed in North Afganistan around 1200 BC to 800 BC. There is approximately a 1000-year gap between them.
Aryan invasion theory was debunked multiple time since the 1960's. Aryan invasion theory was a myth spread by western historians to prove their superiority. Europeans lived as primitive barbarians while people in the East lived full scale civilization. This has been proved by western scientists.
this is what is your ideological bias that the video here is referring to
Where did you get the date 1200-800 BCE for Aryan migration to India? It was around 2000 BCE.
scroll.in/article/936872/two-new-genetic-studies-upheld-aryan-migration-theory-so-why-did-indian-media-report-the-opposite
@@pravyavnav funny how these western historians keep pushing this from 1200BC to 1800BC and now 2000BC
@@pravyavnav Aryan invasion never happened. It is a myth spread by western historians to prove they brough snaskrit and other good things into hindusim. Many scientists all over the world have proved since 1960's that Aryan invasion theory is a myth.
Mittani kingdom kamboja kamboh tha
Sorry but the Aryan Invasion Theory is true, as well as this theory of the origin of Sanskrit.
But it's NOT true in the sense Western historians propagate it. The Hindutva Out of India Theory is at the other extreme, and that's not true either.
There are some major issues which hinder coming to a common ground:
1. There was no clear static boundary of "India" or Indic culture. It has constantly shifted from Afghanistan to the Indus Valley, then to the Gangetic valley and to the Southern peninsula.
Today's "India" is basically something which is bounded by the Indus river in Peshawar.
2. "Arya" or Aryans aren't a singular group of people, it was just a title and a form of address. Their geographical expanse is indistinguishable from "Indic" culture.
3. Christian conception of time has replaced the manvantara 4 yuga cyclical conception of time.
Aryan Invasion is not true, Aryan Migration is. More on this topic in future.
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Yes, you could say so.
But in ancient times, migration was much more freer than it became after the establishment of kingdoms.
Most Human Migrations is OUT OF ASIA - Namely India & China
Because no region on this planet can compete with these two on capacity to support huge populations for humans & ability to pump out migrant tribes that eventually settled the planet. Europeans too have come out of Asian genetic pool mostly migrant Indians.
Persian were the Aryan and brAhmean are descendants of the Aryan priests Magi. The Magi often engaged in incest and considered fire or the sun sacred and worshiped it like brAhmean species do...